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Old 11-10-2006, 01:43 AM
Larry
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Kumar: I'm not going though 102 threads on this. I can only say that
more likely "marathon stress" and "emotional stress" are totally
different so far as diabetes is concerned. More specifically as a
diabetic ...running a marathon vs emotional domestic stress ... I bet
the marathon stress was better for you IF you have done both.

Larry
Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Ros wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > jUST hOW many times are you going to ask the SAME questions, Kumar?

> >
> > Kumar is not alone in his disbelief.

>
> It is always beneficial to be skeptic and belive with understanding
> esp. in life threatning issues rather than to keep blind faith on
> always changing theories.
>
> "It is thought;constipation can be caused by stress but stress can also
> be a symptom of constipation.
> Direct Effects of Stress and Constipation
> The nervous system is very sensitive to stress. Constipation may be a
> direct result of changes in the nervous system during stress."
> Normal bowel movements are a result of complicated nervous system
> signals. Too much stress can cause an interruption of these signals
> that will affect many parts of the digestive tract. It can slow the
> intestinal movements that result in bowel movements."
>
> In view of this; how constipation or unclear motions AND diarrhea or
> clear motions are related to glucose levels in diabetic patients?
>
> How hyperglycemia can effects blood flow changes in view of its lesser
> concentration in blood in comparisn to lipids and protiens?
>
>
>
>
> > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear sister Ros whom I love
> > unconditionally.
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> > Andrew <><
> > --
> > Andrew B. Chung
> > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> >
> > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?


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Old 11-10-2006, 03:29 AM
kumar
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Larry wrote:
> Kumar: I'm not going though 102 threads on this. I can only say that
> more likely "marathon stress" and "emotional stress" are totally
> different so far as diabetes is concerned. More specifically as a
> diabetic ...running a marathon vs emotional domestic stress ... I bet
> the marathon stress was better for you IF you have done both.
>
> Larry


I think modrate stress, physical or mental is beneficial whereas
excessive may be harmful. Modrate physical excercise may relax whereas
excessive can contract your muscles.
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Ros wrote:
> > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > jUST hOW many times are you going to ask the SAME questions, Kumar?
> > >
> > > Kumar is not alone in his disbelief.

> >
> > It is always beneficial to be skeptic and belive with understanding
> > esp. in life threatning issues rather than to keep blind faith on
> > always changing theories.
> >
> > "It is thought;constipation can be caused by stress but stress can also
> > be a symptom of constipation.
> > Direct Effects of Stress and Constipation
> > The nervous system is very sensitive to stress. Constipation may be a
> > direct result of changes in the nervous system during stress."
> > Normal bowel movements are a result of complicated nervous system
> > signals. Too much stress can cause an interruption of these signals
> > that will affect many parts of the digestive tract. It can slow the
> > intestinal movements that result in bowel movements."
> >
> > In view of this; how constipation or unclear motions AND diarrhea or
> > clear motions are related to glucose levels in diabetic patients?
> >
> > How hyperglycemia can effects blood flow changes in view of its lesser
> > concentration in blood in comparisn to lipids and protiens?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear sister Ros whom I love
> > > unconditionally.
> > >
> > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> > >
> > > Andrew <><
> > > --
> > > Andrew B. Chung
> > > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> > >
> > > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?


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Old 11-16-2006, 09:48 PM
Larry
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Kumar: Lately I have been thinking about stress during the sleeping
cycle and how it affects fbg levels. I am of the strong oppinion that
cortisol stimulation during sleep really place a big roll over and
above an "abnormal" dawn effect that diabetics frequently have. Chronic
alcohol intake is the culprit.

Larry
kumar wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > Kumar: I'm not going though 102 threads on this. I can only say that
> > more likely "marathon stress" and "emotional stress" are totally
> > different so far as diabetes is concerned. More specifically as a
> > diabetic ...running a marathon vs emotional domestic stress ... I bet
> > the marathon stress was better for you IF you have done both.
> >
> > Larry

>
> I think modrate stress, physical or mental is beneficial whereas
> excessive may be harmful. Modrate physical excercise may relax whereas
> excessive can contract your muscles.
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Ros wrote:
> > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > jUST hOW many times are you going to ask the SAME questions, Kumar?
> > > >
> > > > Kumar is not alone in his disbelief.
> > >
> > > It is always beneficial to be skeptic and belive with understanding
> > > esp. in life threatning issues rather than to keep blind faith on
> > > always changing theories.
> > >
> > > "It is thought;constipation can be caused by stress but stress can also
> > > be a symptom of constipation.
> > > Direct Effects of Stress and Constipation
> > > The nervous system is very sensitive to stress. Constipation may be a
> > > direct result of changes in the nervous system during stress."
> > > Normal bowel movements are a result of complicated nervous system
> > > signals. Too much stress can cause an interruption of these signals
> > > that will affect many parts of the digestive tract. It can slow the
> > > intestinal movements that result in bowel movements."
> > >
> > > In view of this; how constipation or unclear motions AND diarrhea or
> > > clear motions are related to glucose levels in diabetic patients?
> > >
> > > How hyperglycemia can effects blood flow changes in view of its lesser
> > > concentration in blood in comparisn to lipids and protiens?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear sister Ros whom I love
> > > > unconditionally.
> > > >
> > > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> > > >
> > > > Andrew <><
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew B. Chung
> > > > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> > > >
> > > > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > > > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > > > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?


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Old 11-16-2006, 09:49 PM
kumar
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Larry wrote:
> Kumar: Lately I have been thinking about stress during the sleeping
> cycle and how it affects fbg levels. I am of the strong oppinion that
> cortisol stimulation during sleep really place a big roll over and
> above an "abnormal" dawn effect that diabetics frequently have. Chronic
> alcohol intake is the culprit.
>
> Larry


During midnight cortosol levels are minimal whereas highest between 6-8
AM, normally. Probably it suggest "rest and digest" in night and start
work( fight or flight) from start of the day. Cortisol as stress
hormone can increase glucose levels.
> kumar wrote:
> > Larry wrote:
> > > Kumar: I'm not going though 102 threads on this. I can only say that
> > > more likely "marathon stress" and "emotional stress" are totally
> > > different so far as diabetes is concerned. More specifically as a
> > > diabetic ...running a marathon vs emotional domestic stress ... I bet
> > > the marathon stress was better for you IF you have done both.
> > >
> > > Larry

> >
> > I think modrate stress, physical or mental is beneficial whereas
> > excessive may be harmful. Modrate physical excercise may relax whereas
> > excessive can contract your muscles.
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Ros wrote:
> > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > jUST hOW many times are you going to ask the SAME questions, Kumar?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kumar is not alone in his disbelief.
> > > >
> > > > It is always beneficial to be skeptic and belive with understanding
> > > > esp. in life threatning issues rather than to keep blind faith on
> > > > always changing theories.
> > > >
> > > > "It is thought;constipation can be caused by stress but stress can also
> > > > be a symptom of constipation.
> > > > Direct Effects of Stress and Constipation
> > > > The nervous system is very sensitive to stress. Constipation may be a
> > > > direct result of changes in the nervous system during stress."
> > > > Normal bowel movements are a result of complicated nervous system
> > > > signals. Too much stress can cause an interruption of these signals
> > > > that will affect many parts of the digestive tract. It can slow the
> > > > intestinal movements that result in bowel movements."
> > > >
> > > > In view of this; how constipation or unclear motions AND diarrhea or
> > > > clear motions are related to glucose levels in diabetic patients?
> > > >
> > > > How hyperglycemia can effects blood flow changes in view of its lesser
> > > > concentration in blood in comparisn to lipids and protiens?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear sister Ros whom I love
> > > > > unconditionally.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew <><
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung
> > > > > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> > > > >
> > > > > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > > > > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > > > > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?


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Old 11-17-2006, 10:22 PM
Larry
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Yes you are correct. If you find any research information about the
influence of alcohol (wine?) on cortisol level I'd appreciate hearing
about it. I am suggesting that these levels can be elevated through out
most of the night under certain conditions hence significantly raising
fbg levels over and above diabetic fbg levels. Maybe I need to do a
scholar google on this but so far haven't seen anything about this
interesting topic.

Larry
kumar wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > Kumar: Lately I have been thinking about stress during the sleeping
> > cycle and how it affects fbg levels. I am of the strong oppinion that
> > cortisol stimulation during sleep really place a big roll over and
> > above an "abnormal" dawn effect that diabetics frequently have. Chronic
> > alcohol intake is the culprit.
> >
> > Larry

>
> During midnight cortosol levels are minimal whereas highest between 6-8
> AM, normally. Probably it suggest "rest and digest" in night and start
> work( fight or flight) from start of the day. Cortisol as stress
> hormone can increase glucose levels.
> > kumar wrote:
> > > Larry wrote:
> > > > Kumar: I'm not going though 102 threads on this. I can only say that
> > > > more likely "marathon stress" and "emotional stress" are totally
> > > > different so far as diabetes is concerned. More specifically as a
> > > > diabetic ...running a marathon vs emotional domestic stress ... I bet
> > > > the marathon stress was better for you IF you have done both.
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > >
> > > I think modrate stress, physical or mental is beneficial whereas
> > > excessive may be harmful. Modrate physical excercise may relax whereas
> > > excessive can contract your muscles.
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Ros wrote:
> > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > jUST hOW many times are you going to ask the SAME questions, Kumar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kumar is not alone in his disbelief.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is always beneficial to be skeptic and belive with understanding
> > > > > esp. in life threatning issues rather than to keep blind faith on
> > > > > always changing theories.
> > > > >
> > > > > "It is thought;constipation can be caused by stress but stress can also
> > > > > be a symptom of constipation.
> > > > > Direct Effects of Stress and Constipation
> > > > > The nervous system is very sensitive to stress. Constipation may be a
> > > > > direct result of changes in the nervous system during stress."
> > > > > Normal bowel movements are a result of complicated nervous system
> > > > > signals. Too much stress can cause an interruption of these signals
> > > > > that will affect many parts of the digestive tract. It can slow the
> > > > > intestinal movements that result in bowel movements."
> > > > >
> > > > > In view of this; how constipation or unclear motions AND diarrhea or
> > > > > clear motions are related to glucose levels in diabetic patients?
> > > > >
> > > > > How hyperglycemia can effects blood flow changes in view of its lesser
> > > > > concentration in blood in comparisn to lipids and protiens?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear sister Ros whom I love
> > > > > > unconditionally.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew <><
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung
> > > > > > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > > > > > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > > > > > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?


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Old 11-18-2006, 06:03 AM
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kumar wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>
>>Kumar: Lately I have been thinking about stress during the sleeping
>>cycle and how it affects fbg levels. I am of the strong oppinion that
>>cortisol stimulation during sleep really place a big roll over and
>>above an "abnormal" dawn effect that diabetics frequently have. Chronic
>>alcohol intake is the culprit.
>>
>>Larry

>
>
> During midnight cortosol levels are minimal whereas highest between 6-8
> AM, normally. Probably it suggest "rest and digest" in night and start
> work( fight or flight) from start of the day. Cortisol as stress
> hormone can increase glucose levels.


Cortisol is one of the counter regulatory factors to insulin secretion.
Growth Hormone is another. At least in healthy young adults, alcohol
tends to reduce insulin resistance.1/ Alcohol did not influence fasting
glucose in postmenopausal women. 2/

1. Alcohol consumption and insulin resistance in young adults -
http://tinyurl.com/yglu9r "Insulin sensitivity correlated positively
with alcohol consumption and this trend remained significant allowing
for body mass index and gender. First-phase insulin secretion showed a
weak but non-significant trend in the opposite direction. Fasting
glucose, fasting insulin and glucose tolerance showed no relationships
with alcohol consumption." Articles citing this article -
http://tinyurl.com/ycdgeg.

2. Effects of Moderate Alcohol Intake on Fasting Insulin and Glucose
Concentrations and Insulin Sensitivity in Postmenopausal Women -
http://jama.highwire.org/cgi/content...ct/287/19/2559 "Only fasting
triglyceride concentration was significantly reduced when comparing 0
and 15 g/d of alcohol, and no difference was found between consumption
of 15 and 30 g/d of alcohol; however, there was a significant linear
trend. Fasting glucose concentrations were not different across
treatments." Articles citing this article - http://tinyurl.com/y4fh6t.

A scholar.google.com search on insulin+"counter regulatory
hormones"+alcohol +"type 2"+diabetes resulted in 133 finds -
http://tinyurl.com/yjb2kj

Frank



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Old 11-18-2006, 06:03 AM
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Jefferson wrote:

> Cortisol is one of the counter regulatory factors to insulin secretion.
> Growth Hormone is another. At least in healthy young adults, alcohol
> tends to reduce insulin resistance.1/ Alcohol did not influence fasting
> glucose in postmenopausal women. 2/
>
> 1. Alcohol consumption and insulin resistance in young adults -
> http://tinyurl.com/yglu9r "Insulin sensitivity correlated positively
> with alcohol consumption and this trend remained significant allowing
> for body mass index and gender. First-phase insulin secretion showed a
> weak but non-significant trend in the opposite direction. Fasting
> glucose, fasting insulin and glucose tolerance showed no relationships
> with alcohol consumption." Articles citing this article -
> http://tinyurl.com/ycdgeg.
>
> 2. Effects of Moderate Alcohol Intake on Fasting Insulin and Glucose
> Concentrations and Insulin Sensitivity in Postmenopausal Women -
> http://jama.highwire.org/cgi/content...ct/287/19/2559 "Only fasting
> triglyceride concentration was significantly reduced when comparing 0
> and 15 g/d of alcohol, and no difference was found between consumption
> of 15 and 30 g/d of alcohol; however, there was a significant linear
> trend. Fasting glucose concentrations were not different across
> treatments." Articles citing this article - http://tinyurl.com/y4fh6t.
>
> A scholar.google.com search on insulin+"counter regulatory
> hormones"+alcohol +"type 2"+diabetes resulted in 133 finds -
> http://tinyurl.com/yjb2kj


Consequences of Alcohol Use in Diabetics -
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh22-3/211.pdf

Frank
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:03 AM
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Larry wrote:
> Yes you are correct. If you find any research information about the
> influence of alcohol (wine?) on cortisol level I'd appreciate hearing
> about it. I am suggesting that these levels can be elevated through out
> most of the night under certain conditions hence significantly raising
> fbg levels over and above diabetic fbg levels. Maybe I need to do a
> scholar google on this but so far haven't seen anything about this
> interesting topic.
>
> Larry
> kumar wrote:
> > Larry wrote:
> > > Kumar: Lately I have been thinking about stress during the sleeping
> > > cycle and how it affects fbg levels. I am of the strong oppinion that
> > > cortisol stimulation during sleep really place a big roll over and
> > > above an "abnormal" dawn effect that diabetics frequently have. Chronic
> > > alcohol intake is the culprit.
> > >
> > > Larry

> >
> > During midnight cortosol levels are minimal whereas highest between 6-8
> > AM, normally. Probably it suggest "rest and digest" in night and start
> > work( fight or flight) from start of the day. Cortisol as stress
> > hormone can increase glucose levels.
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Larry wrote:
> > > > > Kumar: I'm not going though 102 threads on this. I can only say that
> > > > > more likely "marathon stress" and "emotional stress" are totally
> > > > > different so far as diabetes is concerned. More specifically as a
> > > > > diabetic ...running a marathon vs emotional domestic stress ... I bet
> > > > > the marathon stress was better for you IF you have done both.
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > I think modrate stress, physical or mental is beneficial whereas
> > > > excessive may be harmful. Modrate physical excercise may relax whereas
> > > > excessive can contract your muscles.
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > Ros wrote:
> > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > jUST hOW many times are you going to ask the SAME questions, Kumar?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kumar is not alone in his disbelief.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is always beneficial to be skeptic and belive with understanding
> > > > > > esp. in life threatning issues rather than to keep blind faith on
> > > > > > always changing theories.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "It is thought;constipation can be caused by stress but stress can also
> > > > > > be a symptom of constipation.
> > > > > > Direct Effects of Stress and Constipation
> > > > > > The nervous system is very sensitive to stress. Constipation may be a
> > > > > > direct result of changes in the nervous system during stress."
> > > > > > Normal bowel movements are a result of complicated nervous system
> > > > > > signals. Too much stress can cause an interruption of these signals
> > > > > > that will affect many parts of the digestive tract. It can slow the
> > > > > > intestinal movements that result in bowel movements."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In view of this; how constipation or unclear motions AND diarrhea or
> > > > > > clear motions are related to glucose levels in diabetic patients?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How hyperglycemia can effects blood flow changes in view of its lesser
> > > > > > concentration in blood in comparisn to lipids and protiens?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear sister Ros whom I love
> > > > > > > unconditionally.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andrew <><
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung
> > > > > > > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > > > > > > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > > > > > > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?


I think it is due to stress by taking excess alcohol. I could find
following:

"Alcohol can increase cortisol through a variety of mechanisms," said
Adinoff. "Alcohol directly affects many brain chemicals that signal the
adrenal glands to produce and secrete cortisol. High levels of
intoxication may be interpreted as general 'stress,' which could
stimulate cortisol release. Finally, after drinking a lot of alcohol
for a long time, the sudden stopping of drinking can produce a
stressful 'withdrawal' state, which can also increase cortisol
production."
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/healt...acer030915.htm "

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