Re: Diabetes and Stress?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > >
> > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > measured.
> > >
> > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > in dabetes?
> > >
> > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> >
> > Sorry, still unclear to me.
>
> Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> iniquities.
>
> > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
>
> Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.

Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...da2d26da0ab97?

kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > measured.
> > > >
> > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > in dabetes?
> > > >
> > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > >
> > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> >
> > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > iniquities.
> >
> > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> >
> > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
>
> Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?

Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > > measured.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > > in dabetes?
> > > > >
> > > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> > >
> > > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > > iniquities.
> > >
> > > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> > >
> > > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
> >
> > Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
>
> Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.
"Western science typically looks at the SNS as an automatic regulation
system, that is, one that operates without the intervention of
conscious thought. Some evolutionary theorists suggest that the
sympathetic nervous system operated in early organisms to maintain
survival (Origins of Consciousness, Robert Ornstein[citation needed];
et al.), as the sympathetic nervous system is responsible for priming
the body for action. One example of this priming is in the moments
before waking, in which sympathetic outflow spontaneously increases in
preparation for action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system "

It looks, intelligence is required for fight or flight i.e somewhat to
earn and eat or to bring body into action. Rest and digest may not need
intellegence.

> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > > > measured.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > > > in dabetes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > > > iniquities.
> > > >
> > > > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> > > >
> > > > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
> > >
> > > Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
> >
> > Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.
>
> "Western science typically looks at the SNS as an automatic regulation
> system, that is, one that operates without the intervention of
> conscious thought. Some evolutionary theorists suggest that the
> sympathetic nervous system operated in early organisms to maintain
> survival (Origins of Consciousness, Robert Ornstein[citation needed];
> et al.), as the sympathetic nervous system is responsible for priming
> the body for action. One example of this priming is in the moments
> before waking, in which sympathetic outflow spontaneously increases in
> preparation for action.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system "
>
> It looks, intelligence is required for fight or flight i.e somewhat to
> earn and eat or to bring body into action. Rest and digest may not need
> intellegence.

A scorpian is capable of either fight or flight response...
.... how much intelligence do you believe it has ?

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > > > > > measured.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > > > > > in dabetes?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > > > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > > > > > iniquities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > > > > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
> > > >
> > > > Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.
> > >
> > > "Western science typically looks at the SNS as an automatic regulation
> > > system, that is, one that operates without the intervention of
> > > conscious thought. Some evolutionary theorists suggest that the
> > > sympathetic nervous system operated in early organisms to maintain
> > > survival (Origins of Consciousness, Robert Ornstein[citation needed];
> > > et al.), as the sympathetic nervous system is responsible for priming
> > > the body for action. One example of this priming is in the moments
> > > before waking, in which sympathetic outflow spontaneously increases in
> > > preparation for action.
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system "
> > >
> > > It looks, intelligence is required for fight or flight i.e somewhat to
> > > earn and eat or to bring body into action. Rest and digest may not need
> > > intellegence.
> >
> > A scorpian is capable of either fight or flight response...
> > ... how much intelligence do you believe it has ?
>
> Intelligence is interpreted as;
> "Intelligence is a property of mind that encompasses many related
> mental abilities, such as the capacities to reason, plan, *solve
> problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(trait) "
>
> Pls evaulate if"fight and flight" ..to fight or to flight" any problem
> need intelligence or not?

Neither fight nor flight require either reasoning or planning.

> Btw, what *CRP 8mg/L*, normal lipid profile, normal renal profile,
> normal iron studies normal cortisol level, normal CBC, high blood
> glucose and high urine glucose levels, no ketone in urine.. idicates?

Poorly controlled type-2 diabetes if this is a fasting blood draw..

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > > > > > > measured.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > > > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > > > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > > > > > > in dabetes?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > > > > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > > > > > > iniquities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > > > > > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.
> > > >
> > > > "Western science typically looks at the SNS as an automatic regulation
> > > > system, that is, one that operates without the intervention of
> > > > conscious thought. Some evolutionary theorists suggest that the
> > > > sympathetic nervous system operated in early organisms to maintain
> > > > survival (Origins of Consciousness, Robert Ornstein[citation needed];
> > > > et al.), as the sympathetic nervous system is responsible for priming
> > > > the body for action. One example of this priming is in the moments
> > > > before waking, in which sympathetic outflow spontaneously increases in
> > > > preparation for action.
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system "
> > > >
> > > > It looks, intelligence is required for fight or flight i.e somewhat to
> > > > earn and eat or to bring body into action. Rest and digest may not need
> > > > intellegence.
> > >
> > > A scorpian is capable of either fight or flight response...
> > > ... how much intelligence do you believe it has ?
> >
> > Intelligence is interpreted as;
> > "Intelligence is a property of mind that encompasses many related
> > mental abilities, such as the capacities to reason, plan, *solve
> > problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(trait) "
> >
> > Pls evaulate if"fight and flight" ..to fight or to flight" any problem
> > need intelligence or not?
>
> Neither fight nor flight require either reasoning or planning.
>
> > Btw, what *CRP 8mg/L*, normal lipid profile, normal renal profile,
> > normal iron studies normal cortisol level, normal CBC, high blood
> > glucose and high urine glucose levels, no ketone in urine.. idicates?
>
> Poorly controlled type-2 diabetes if this is a fasting blood draw..

Yes fasting readings. BP remains normal. What does CRP so high, mean in
this case?
>
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > > > > > > > measured.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > > > > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > > > > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > > > > > > > in dabetes?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > > > > > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > > > > > > > iniquities.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > > > > > > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Western science typically looks at the SNS as an automatic regulation
> > > > > system, that is, one that operates without the intervention of
> > > > > conscious thought. Some evolutionary theorists suggest that the
> > > > > sympathetic nervous system operated in early organisms to maintain
> > > > > survival (Origins of Consciousness, Robert Ornstein[citation needed];
> > > > > et al.), as the sympathetic nervous system is responsible for priming
> > > > > the body for action. One example of this priming is in the moments
> > > > > before waking, in which sympathetic outflow spontaneously increases in
> > > > > preparation for action.
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system "
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks, intelligence is required for fight or flight i.e somewhat to
> > > > > earn and eat or to bring body into action. Rest and digest may not need
> > > > > intellegence.
> > > >
> > > > A scorpian is capable of either fight or flight response...
> > > > ... how much intelligence do you believe it has ?
> > >
> > > Intelligence is interpreted as;
> > > "Intelligence is a property of mind that encompasses many related
> > > mental abilities, such as the capacities to reason, plan, *solve
> > > problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn.
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(trait) "
> > >
> > > Pls evaulate if"fight and flight" ..to fight or to flight" any problem
> > > need intelligence or not?
> >
> > Neither fight nor flight require either reasoning or planning.
> >
> > > Btw, what *CRP 8mg/L*, normal lipid profile, normal renal profile,
> > > normal iron studies normal cortisol level, normal CBC, high blood
> > > glucose and high urine glucose levels, no ketone in urine.. idicates?
> >
> > Poorly controlled type-2 diabetes if this is a fasting blood draw..
>
> Yes fasting readings. BP remains normal. What does CRP so high, mean in
> this case?

Lots of visceral adipose tissue (VAT).

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How then glycation of structural protiens occur?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cells bathe in interstitial fluid and when the glucose concentration is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excessive, their structural proteins become altered abnormally.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether/can body mechanisms restrict excess glucose on hyperglycemia to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into interstitial compartment from blood?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, is it glycosylating proteins or glycalated protiens due or high
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glucose.Glycosylation is enzymatic process and site specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abnormally high levels of glucose for prolonged periods drives the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process to become more non-enzymatic and non-specific.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shouldn't then it be called as glycalation instead of glycosylation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation can be thought as a body's mediated process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we measure is glycosylation. We infer higher rates of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-catalyzed reactions with higher rates of catalyzed ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should it be in actual?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant, what should be the actual name glycated or glycosylated?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > These are interchangeable because it is the latter that is actually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > measured.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Glycosylation is enzyme mediated site specific body's oriented
> > > > > > > > > > > > mechanism. Whereas glycation is not these. Hyperglycemia is commonly
> > > > > > > > > > > > not body's oriented condition. Should then glycosylated be not glycated
> > > > > > > > > > > > in dabetes?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When substrate concentrations are very high, the specificity of
> > > > > > > > > > > enzyme-catalyzed reactions is often lost.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry, still unclear to me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry you are not able to understand. Please forgive all my
> > > > > > > > > iniquities.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Btw, whether intellegency is lost when a person under previous
> > > > > > > > > > sympathetic system's influence truned to para-sympathetic influence?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Intelligence is not moderated by the autonomic nervous system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whether intelligence can be needed for "fight or flight"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Intelligence is not needed for either fight or flight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Western science typically looks at the SNS as an automatic regulation
> > > > > > system, that is, one that operates without the intervention of
> > > > > > conscious thought. Some evolutionary theorists suggest that the
> > > > > > sympathetic nervous system operated in early organisms to maintain
> > > > > > survival (Origins of Consciousness, Robert Ornstein[citation needed];
> > > > > > et al.), as the sympathetic nervous system is responsible for priming
> > > > > > the body for action. One example of this priming is in the moments
> > > > > > before waking, in which sympathetic outflow spontaneously increases in
> > > > > > preparation for action.
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It looks, intelligence is required for fight or flight i.e somewhat to
> > > > > > earn and eat or to bring body into action. Rest and digest may not need
> > > > > > intellegence.
> > > > >
> > > > > A scorpian is capable of either fight or flight response...
> > > > > ... how much intelligence do you believe it has ?
> > > >
> > > > Intelligence is interpreted as;
> > > > "Intelligence is a property of mind that encompasses many related
> > > > mental abilities, such as the capacities to reason, plan, *solve
> > > > problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn.
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(trait) "
> > > >
> > > > Pls evaulate if"fight and flight" ..to fight or to flight" any problem
> > > > need intelligence or not?
> > >
> > > Neither fight nor flight require either reasoning or planning.
> > >
> > > > Btw, what *CRP 8mg/L*, normal lipid profile, normal renal profile,
> > > > normal iron studies normal cortisol level, normal CBC, high blood
> > > > glucose and high urine glucose levels, no ketone in urine.. idicates?
> > >
> > > Poorly controlled type-2 diabetes if this is a fasting blood draw..
> >
> > Yes fasting readings. BP remains normal. What does CRP so high, mean in
> > this case?
>
> Lots of visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
>
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

**Many thanks. By now, I could't notice anything as some other people
interpret. You just indicate/guide in gentle way but most specific/easy

soloution as not to tense one in need or otherwise harm himself, which
is best needed. May GOD continuing blessing you for your helping,
blessing and religious nature.**

> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > kumar wrote:
<snip>
> > > Yes fasting readings. BP remains normal. What does CRP so high, mean in
> > > this case?
> >
> > Lots of visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
> >
> > May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> > neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> **Many thanks.

You are welcome.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength.

> By now, I could't notice anything as some other people
> interpret. You just indicate/guide in gentle way but most specific/easy
> soloution as not to tense one in need or otherwise harm himself, which
> is best needed.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is simple.

However, overcoming the brainwashing that results in fear of hunger is
difficult.

> May GOD continuing blessing you for your helping,
> blessing and religious nature.**

May thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for your kind heart.

May GOD continue to heal your kind heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> <snip>
> > > > Yes fasting readings. BP remains normal. What does CRP so high, mean in
> > > > this case?
> > >
> > > Lots of visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
> > >
> > > May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> > > neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
> >
> > **Many thanks.
>
> You are welcome.
>
> All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
> soul, mind, and strength.
>
> > By now, I could't notice anything as some other people
> > interpret. You just indicate/guide in gentle way but most specific/easy
> > soloution as not to tense one in need or otherwise harm himself, which
> > is best needed.
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is simple.

Yes.

> However, overcoming the brainwashing that results in fear of hunger is
> difficult.

Yes, but I think It can achieved though slowly by befriending with
hunger.

Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
parts?If yes, in which parts pain can be common?


Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)? If yes,
whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?



> > May GOD continuing blessing you for your helping,
> > blessing and religious nature.**
>
> May thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for your kind heart.
>
> May GOD continue to heal your kind heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > kumar wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > > Yes fasting readings. BP remains normal. What does CRP so high, mean in
> > > > > this case?
> > > >
> > > > Lots of visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
> > > >
> > > > May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> > > > neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
> > >
> > > **Many thanks.
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> > All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
> > soul, mind, and strength.
> >
> > > By now, I could't notice anything as some other people
> > > interpret. You just indicate/guide in gentle way but most specific/easy
> > > soloution as not to tense one in need or otherwise harm himself, which
> > > is best needed.
> >
> > The 2PD-OMER Approach is simple.
>
> Yes.
>
> > However, overcoming the brainwashing that results in fear of hunger is
> > difficult.
>
> Yes, but I think It can achieved though slowly by befriending with
> hunger.

Correct.

> Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
> parts?

In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.

> If yes, in which parts pain can be common?

Knees, hips, and hands.

> Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?

It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of intravascular
inflammation.

> If yes,
> whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?

No. Once the inflammatory cytokines are gone with the loss of VAT,
there can be healing of the osteoarthritic joints as vascular perfusion
improves over time.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
>> > Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
> > parts?
>
> In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.
>
> > If yes, in which parts pain can be common?
>
> Knees, hips, and hands.

Why it is more common in Knees, hips, and hands?

> > Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?
>
> It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of intravascular
> inflammation.

In short, will inflammatory cytokines by VAT may cause intravascular
inflammations rsulting into diminished blood flow ?

> > If yes,
> > whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?
>
> No. Once the inflammatory cytokines are gone with the loss of VAT,
> there can be healing of the osteoarthritic joints as vascular perfusion
> improves over time.

Whether oxidative stress happens on any inflammation to any part?

> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> >> > Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
> > > parts?
> >
> > In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.
> >
> > > If yes, in which parts pain can be common?
> >
> > Knees, hips, and hands.
>
> Why it is more common in Knees, hips, and hands?

These are the joints in the body that places the greatest demand on
their cartilages.

> > > Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?
> >
> > It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of intravascular
> > inflammation.
>
> In short, will inflammatory cytokines by VAT may cause intravascular
> inflammations rsulting into diminished blood flow ?

Yes.

> > > If yes,
> > > whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?
> >
> > No. Once the inflammatory cytokines are gone with the loss of VAT,
> > there can be healing of the osteoarthritic joints as vascular perfusion
> > improves over time.
>
> Whether oxidative stress happens on any inflammation to any part?

Cytokine-mediated inflammation results in outright damage of the fine
vessels that supply the affected joints.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > >> > Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
> > > > parts?
> > >
> > > In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.
> > >
> > > > If yes, in which parts pain can be common?
> > >
> > > Knees, hips, and hands.
> >
> > Why it is more common in Knees, hips, and hands?
>
> These are the joints in the body that places the greatest demand on
> their cartilages.

Can bile not normally moving from liver or secreting in intestines be
related to osteoarthritis?



> > > > Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?
> > >
> > > It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of intravascular
> > > inflammation.
> >
> > In short, will inflammatory cytokines by VAT may cause intravascular
> > inflammations rsulting into diminished blood flow ?
>
> Yes.
Whether lesser blood supply due to inflammatory cytokines by VAT occurs
due to vasicinstriction or due to lesser filteration from small
arteries?

> > > > If yes,
> > > > whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?
> > >
> > > No. Once the inflammatory cytokines are gone with the loss of VAT,
> > > there can be healing of the osteoarthritic joints as vascular perfusion
> > > improves over time.
> >
> > Whether oxidative stress happens on any inflammation to any part?
>
> Cytokine-mediated inflammation results in outright damage of the fine
> vessels that supply the affected joints.

Pls tell me more about such damage of fine arteries?
Whether such damage is common in all chronic inflammatotry diseases?

> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

"kumar" <lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160881255.834486.234780@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Kumar wrote:
>> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > > Kumar wrote:
>> > >> > Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
>> > > > parts?
>> > >
>> > > In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.
>> > >
>> > > > If yes, in which parts pain can be common?
>> > >
>> > > Knees, hips, and hands.
>> >
>> > Why it is more common in Knees, hips, and hands?
>>
>> These are the joints in the body that places the greatest demand on
>> their cartilages.
>
> Can bile not normally moving from liver or secreting in intestines be
> related to osteoarthritis?

Your heart goes out with your liver and both went drinking at vampire blood
donation station in the company parking lot.

>
>
>
>> > > > Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?
>> > >
>> > > It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of
>> > > intravascular
>> > > inflammation.
>> >
>> > In short, will inflammatory cytokines by VAT may cause intravascular
>> > inflammations rsulting into diminished blood flow ?
>>
>> Yes.
> Whether lesser blood supply due to inflammatory cytokines by VAT occurs
> due to vasicinstriction or due to lesser filteration from small
> arteries?
>
>> > > > If yes,
>> > > > whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?
>> > >
>> > > No. Once the inflammatory cytokines are gone with the loss of VAT,
>> > > there can be healing of the osteoarthritic joints as vascular
>> > > perfusion
>> > > improves over time.
>> >
>> > Whether oxidative stress happens on any inflammation to any part?
>>
>> Cytokine-mediated inflammation results in outright damage of the fine
>> vessels that supply the affected joints.
>
> Pls tell me more about such damage of fine arteries?
> Whether such damage is common in all chronic inflammatotry diseases?
>
>> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
>> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>>
>> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>>
>> Andrew <><
>> --
>> Andrew B. Chung
>> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>>
>> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
>> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
>> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?
>

Read Friendly Neibourhood Vote Ranger wrote:
> "kumar" <lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1160881255.834486.234780@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> Kumar wrote:
> >> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> > > Kumar wrote:
> >> > >> > Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
> >> > > > parts?
> >> > >
> >> > > In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.
> >> > >
> >> > > > If yes, in which parts pain can be common?
> >> > >
> >> > > Knees, hips, and hands.
> >> >
> >> > Why it is more common in Knees, hips, and hands?
> >>
> >> These are the joints in the body that places the greatest demand on
> >> their cartilages.
> >
> > Can bile not normally moving from liver or secreting in intestines be
> > related to osteoarthritis?
>
> Your heart goes out with your liver and both went drinking at vampire blood
> donation station in the company parking lot.

Pls clear it in normal language.
> >
> >
> >
> >> > > > Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?
> >> > >
> >> > > It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of
> >> > > intravascular
> >> > > inflammation.
> >> >
> >> > In short, will inflammatory cytokines by VAT may cause intravascular
> >> > inflammations rsulting into diminished blood flow ?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> > Whether lesser blood supply due to inflammatory cytokines by VAT occurs
> > due to vasicinstriction or due to lesser filteration from small
> > arteries?
> >
> >> > > > If yes,
> >> > > > whether adding food with anti-oxidant property can be useful?
> >> > >
> >> > > No. Once the inflammatory cytokines are gone with the loss of VAT,
> >> > > there can be healing of the osteoarthritic joints as vascular
> >> > > perfusion
> >> > > improves over time.
> >> >
> >> > Whether oxidative stress happens on any inflammation to any part?
> >>
> >> Cytokine-mediated inflammation results in outright damage of the fine
> >> vessels that supply the affected joints.
> >
> > Pls tell me more about such damage of fine arteries?
> > Whether such damage is common in all chronic inflammatotry diseases?
> >
> >> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> >> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
> >>
> >> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >>
> >> Andrew <><
> >> --
> >> Andrew B. Chung
> >> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> >>
> >> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> >> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> >> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?
> >

kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > >> > Btw, whether inflammatory cytokines by VAT can cause pain in some
> > > > > parts?
> > > >
> > > > In the joints by way of osteoarthritis.
> > > >
> > > > > If yes, in which parts pain can be common?
> > > >
> > > > Knees, hips, and hands.
> > >
> > > Why it is more common in Knees, hips, and hands?
> >
> > These are the joints in the body that places the greatest demand on
> > their cartilages.
>
> Can bile not normally moving from liver or secreting in intestines be
> related to osteoarthritis?

No.

Osteoarthritis has long been associated with cardiovascular disease as
evident in the NSAID story and not with either liver or gall bladder
problems.

> > > > > Is it somewhat oxidative stress effect (tissue damages)?
> > > >
> > > > It is from diminished blood flow to the joints because of intravascular
> > > > inflammation.
> > >
> > > In short, will inflammatory cytokines by VAT may cause intravascular
> > > inflammations rsulting into diminished blood flow ?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Whether lesser blood supply due to inflammatory cytokines by VAT occurs
> due to vasicinstriction or due to lesser filteration from small
> arteries?

Due to dysfunction and eventual destruction of the small arteries that
supply the joints.