Re: Dietary Inflammation Reduction

""Supplementation of flaxseed flour, a source of omega-3 fatty acids for
2 weeks""

Flaxseed in fact has only a precursor to omega3 which the body converts
to it. In some peoplewith Inflammation it is thought not to be
effectively converted.

Fish oil and animal flesh also contain it in the full omega3 form
without conversion.

Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.

Ron Peterson wrote:
> On Nov 23, 3:37 pm, Dave <djense...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I love Chia seeds. Great taste, healthy "crunch" on top of just about
>> anything. I even have a grinder for them that I bought on Amazon (a
>> "flax grinder") and the ground up seeds add a kind of nutty flavor to
>> all sorts of food.
>
> I'm looking for a grinder for chia seeds, which brand did you get?

Don't you just get them by ordering from the commercial for the pets? I
am surprised they have a nutty flavor, though. I would have thought that
they would have a sort of grassy flavor. ;-)

Jeff

> When you grind the seeds does the thickening action on drinks work
> more quickly?
>
> --
> Ron
>

Ron Peterson wrote:
>
> On Nov 24, 12:16 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Ron Peterson wrote:
>
> > > I'm looking for a grinder for chia seeds, which brand did you get?
>
> > Don't you just get them by ordering from the commercial for the pets? I
> > am surprised they have a nutty flavor, though. I would have thought that
> > they would have a sort of grassy flavor. ;-)
>
> The amount of seeds needed for chia pets would be too small for
> dietary consumption.

Not to mention you should never eat seeds
intended for planting, because they might
be treated with fungicide.

Dave wrote:
>
> On Nov 24, 1:41 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > Not to mention you should never eat seeds
> > intended for planting, because they might
> > be treated with fungicide.
>
> That's a good point . . . I always remember the labels that the
> Chia seed packets had about "Not intended for human consumption,"
> and this must be the reason,

I wouldn't have said "must", although it's a
very definite possibility. It's also possible
the seeds were handled in an acceptable way for
Chia-head seeds, but not acceptable for a food
product. For example, they might have been
handled under conditions which would have allowed
contamination with filth (insect parts, rodent
hair, etc.). Unless the entire supply chain
ensures a food-grade product, it would have been
irresponsible not to give the consumer that
warning.

In alt.support.diabetes Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Ron Peterson wrote:
: > On Nov 23, 3:37 pm, Dave <djense...@cox.net> wrote:
: >
: >> I love Chia seeds. Great taste, healthy "crunch" on top of just about
: >> anything. I even have a grinder for them that I bought on Amazon (a
: >> "flax grinder") and the ground up seeds add a kind of nutty flavor to
: >> all sorts of food.
: >
: > I'm looking for a grinder for chia seeds, which brand did you get?

: Don't you just get them by ordering from the commercial for the pets? I
: am surprised they have a nutty flavor, though. I would have thought that
: they would have a sort of grassy flavor. ;-)

: Jeff


That's only if you let them grow that wool,or fur or hair , or whatever
the pet requires.

Wendy

"Dave" <djensen36@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Nov 23, 10:08 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 23, 7:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The article you supplied actually contradicts what you say .. "there
> > > is some linkage between prostate cancer and ALA/alpha-linolenic acid"
> >
> > You are confusing Dave's comment with my making a claim. I posted the
> > abstract to show that it's not likely that omega 3 fatty acids cause
> > prostate cancer.
> >
> > --
> > Ron
>
> Ron and Tom
>
> Good that you guys are ambitious and have the time to look it up. I
> posted an earlier article here from my blog, about how much I love
> Chia, and there was a followup that the two are linked. All I said is
> talk to a doc.
>
> Dave

I read some of Andrew Weil's comments on the effects of flax seeds and oil
on the prostate
and my understanding was that the problem is with the flax oil - not with
the flax seeds. He
suggested that adding lignins to the oil might help.

Does anyone know what causes gut intolerance with ground flax seeds? I, and
a number of
other people I know, can take a tablespoon of the flax meal for only about 3
days in succession.
After that, we have to spend much time in or near the bathroom. Is there any
antidote?

Similarly, is there any specific ingredient in tomatoes that causes gut
intolerance?

TIA

RF

"Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 28, 6:40 am, "Red Fox" <r...@c.con> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know what causes gut intolerance with ground flax seeds? I,
and
> > a number of
> > other people I know, can take a tablespoon of the flax meal for only
about 3
> > days in succession.
> > After that, we have to spend much time in or near the bathroom. Is there
any
> > antidote?
> >
> > Similarly, is there any specific ingredient in tomatoes that causes gut
> > intolerance?
>
> Dietary imbalance.
> We are the product of an instant generation. We are fast food on legs.
> And when we get ill because of it we do tend to tip everything over
> still out of balance.
>
> That is a very broad statement and I think there must be more to it
> than that but it's a factor.


Thanks W.L. for the comments. However, I have NEVER eaten fast food. I was
fortunate
to have been living in N.Y.C. in the 60's when Dr Carlton Fredericks was
broadcasting blasts
at the horrible grossly overprocessed foods on the market. At that time
supermarkets had about
90% of shelf space dedicated to white "bread," which Fredericks claimed had
next to no nutrients
and had a good % of cotton. My eyes opened wide then and have been so ever
since, so my
intolerance is not because of eating "bad foods." I have never eaten in fast
food restaurants or cafes.
My guess is that the intolerance is because of some chemical imbalance.

Today I was reminded of chia seeds, which apear to have significant
quantities of omega-3s -
just what I need. Does anyone know if they produce intolerances similar to
flax seeds?

TIA

RF

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:40:09 -0800, "Red Fox" <rf@c.con> wrote:

>I read some of Andrew Weil's comments on the effects of flax seeds and oil
>on the prostate
>and my understanding was that the problem is with the flax oil - not with
>the flax seeds. He
>suggested that adding lignins to the oil might help.

G'day G'day,

It seems Andrew Weil's is catching up. <grin>

When one has complete flax seed or flaxseed fibre then there is a
REDUCTION in prostate cancer and its spread.

Back blending with lignans into the oil is a good strategy. The
interesting point is back blending is more successful in some
countries that others. New Zealand flaxseed can be back blended to a
greater degree.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:37:40 -0800 (PST), Dave <djensen36@cox.net>
wrote:

>Hi Tom,
>
>I love Chia seeds. Great taste, healthy "crunch" on top of just about
>anything. I even have a grinder for them that I bought on Amazon (a
>"flax grinder") and the ground up seeds add a kind of nutty flavor to
>all sorts of food.
>
>Chia seeds have a very high concentration of ALA. But, alas . . . you
>need to talk to your doctor before you start eating a ton of Chia,
>Flax, or any other high-ALA containing food, as there is some linkage
>between prostate cancer and ALA. I'm not certain its been proved out,
>but it is out there in the literature.
>
>Dave

G'day G'day Dave,

Ground whole flax or flax fibre inhibits prostrate cancer lowering
the incidence and slowing the growth of existing cancers.

The problems arise with large doses of purified ALA.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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On Nov 30, 9:19 am, Quentin Grady <quen...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> This post not CC'd by email
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:37:40 -0800 (PST), Dave <djense...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi Tom,
>
> >I love Chia seeds. Great taste, healthy "crunch" on top of just about
> >anything. I even have a grinder for them that I bought on Amazon (a
> >"flax grinder") and the ground up seeds add a kind of nutty flavor to
> >all sorts of food.
>
> >Chia seeds have a very high concentration of ALA. But, alas . . . you
> >need to talk to your doctor before you start eating a ton of Chia,
> >Flax, or any other high-ALA containing food, as there is some linkage
> >between prostate cancer and ALA. I'm not certain its been proved out,
> >but it is out there in the literature.
>
> >Dave
>
> G'day G'day Dave,
>
> Ground whole flax or flax fibre inhibits prostrate cancer lowering
> the incidence and slowing the growth of existing cancers.
>
> The problems arise with large doses of purified ALA.
>
> Best wishes,
> --
> Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
> New Zealand, >#,#< [
> / \ /\
> "... and the blind dog was leading."
>
> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Red Fox wrote:

> Does anyone know what causes gut intolerance with ground flax seeds? I,
> and a number of other people I know, can take a tablespoon of the flax
> meal for only about 3 days in succession. After that, we have to spend
> much time in or near the bathroom. Is there any antidote?

I find I do better if I mix the ground flax seed meal in with some yogurt
and let it sit for a minute or two before eating it.

NHE