Fibre Question

If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e. if
the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?

Thanks

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
> if the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?

No. I don't think so.

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
> if the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>

No, you'd have 13g of carbs with 3 of them being fibre; that's still 10
"real" grams carbs.
bj

"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
>> if the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3
>> gms fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>
>
> No, you'd have 13g of carbs with 3 of them being fibre; that's still 10
> "real" grams carbs.
> bj
>
Damn! (thanks bj)
>

On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e. if
>the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>
>Thanks
>

No.

But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
juice unless you are correcting a low.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.

Angkor Wat
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On 5/15/08 1:12 PM, in article
482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e. if
> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>
> Thanks
>
>
Why don't you just eat the fruit? It would be fresh and have all its
vitamins and minerals. First thing I was taught at the Diabetes Teaching
Centre I went to--- No fruit juice, unless it's to treat a hypo; eat the
fruit.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
: If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e. if
: the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
: fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?

: Thanks

No. when one sas you can subtract the fiber from the carb cound on
nutritional labels IN THEUSA, that mean the carb number INCLUDES the
fiber, unlke in OZ and Great Britain where the carb count is separate from
the fibre , which is listed separately. If you add 3 graams of
fiber(fibre) to 10 grams of carb you would still have 10 grams of carb.
In the US that would be listed as 13 grams of carb with an indented
listing of 3 grams of fiber. I Great Britain or oz it would be listed as
10 gramsof carb with an unindented line listinf fibre at 3 grams.

Now that I have completel confused you, I hope you don't try it. Fruit
juice is just a very difficult item for diabetics.

Wendy

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David"
> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
>>if
>>the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>
> No.
>
> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
> juice unless you are correcting a low.
>

Thanks Alan
I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend the
juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has all
the pulp


> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>
> Angkor Wat
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

"MI" <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> On 5/15/08 1:12 PM, in article
> 482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
>> if
>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> Why don't you just eat the fruit? It would be fresh and have all its
> vitamins and minerals. First thing I was taught at the Diabetes Teaching
> Centre I went to--- No fruit juice, unless it's to treat a hypo; eat the
> fruit.
>

Thansk Martha
I am blending the juice so that I can mix in a protein powder
I thought that is much the same as eating it as far as I know the fibre is
intact

> --
> Martha T2 Canada
> 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
>

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "MI" <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:C452143B.29BF4%quilchenapark@shaw.ca...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/15/08 1:12 PM, in article
>> 482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>>> i.e. if
>>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>> Why don't you just eat the fruit? It would be fresh and have all its
>> vitamins and minerals. First thing I was taught at the Diabetes Teaching
>> Centre I went to--- No fruit juice, unless it's to treat a hypo; eat the
>> fruit.
>>
>
> Thansk Martha
> I am blending the juice so that I can mix in a protein powder
> I thought that is much the same as eating it as far as I know the fibre is
> intact

You might try tomato juice (lower in carbs), Diet V-8 Splash (also lower in
carbs), or something like Crystal Lite.

"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
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> David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> : If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
> i.e. if
> : the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
> : fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>
> : Thanks
>
> No. when one sas you can subtract the fiber from the carb cound on
> nutritional labels IN THEUSA, that mean the carb number INCLUDES the
> fiber, unlke in OZ and Great Britain where the carb count is separate from
> the fibre , which is listed separately. If you add 3 graams of
> fiber(fibre) to 10 grams of carb you would still have 10 grams of carb.
> In the US that would be listed as 13 grams of carb with an indented
> listing of 3 grams of fiber. I Great Britain or oz it would be listed as
> 10 gramsof carb with an unindented line listinf fibre at 3 grams.
>
> Now that I have completel confused you, I hope you don't try it. Fruit
> juice is just a very difficult item for diabetics.
>
> Wendy

Thanks Wendy appreciate that - I will change fruit to V8 - Julie gave me a
good tip as V8 has 1/3 the carbs of fruit

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> "MI" <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:C452143B.29BF4%quilchenapark@shaw.ca...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/15/08 1:12 PM, in article
>>> 482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
>>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>>>> i.e. if
>>>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why don't you just eat the fruit? It would be fresh and have all its
>>> vitamins and minerals. First thing I was taught at the Diabetes Teaching
>>> Centre I went to--- No fruit juice, unless it's to treat a hypo; eat the
>>> fruit.
>>>
>>
>> Thansk Martha
>> I am blending the juice so that I can mix in a protein powder
>> I thought that is much the same as eating it as far as I know the fibre
>> is intact
>
> You might try tomato juice (lower in carbs), Diet V-8 Splash (also lower
> in carbs), or something like Crystal Lite.
Great idea thanks Julie - will go for V8 - I get the low sodium one as well

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:g0ij04$8qu$1@reader2.panix.com...
>> David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> : If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>> i.e. if
>> : the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>> : fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>
>> : Thanks
>>
>> No. when one sas you can subtract the fiber from the carb cound on
>> nutritional labels IN THEUSA, that mean the carb number INCLUDES the
>> fiber, unlke in OZ and Great Britain where the carb count is separate
>> from
>> the fibre , which is listed separately. If you add 3 graams of
>> fiber(fibre) to 10 grams of carb you would still have 10 grams of carb.
>> In the US that would be listed as 13 grams of carb with an indented
>> listing of 3 grams of fiber. I Great Britain or oz it would be listed as
>> 10 gramsof carb with an unindented line listinf fibre at 3 grams.
>>
>> Now that I have completel confused you, I hope you don't try it. Fruit
>> juice is just a very difficult item for diabetics.
>>
>> Wendy
>
> Thanks Wendy appreciate that - I will change fruit to V8 - Julie gave me a
> good tip as V8 has 1/3 the carbs of fruit

Not V8! Diet V8 Splash. V8 is lower in carbs, but still pretty high, I
think.

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> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "MI" <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/15/08 1:12 PM, in article
>>>> 482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
>>>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>>>>> i.e. if
>>>>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3
>>>>> gms
>>>>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Why don't you just eat the fruit? It would be fresh and have all its
>>>> vitamins and minerals. First thing I was taught at the Diabetes
>>>> Teaching
>>>> Centre I went to--- No fruit juice, unless it's to treat a hypo; eat
>>>> the
>>>> fruit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thansk Martha
>>> I am blending the juice so that I can mix in a protein powder
>>> I thought that is much the same as eating it as far as I know the fibre
>>> is intact
>>
>> You might try tomato juice (lower in carbs), Diet V-8 Splash (also lower
>> in carbs), or something like Crystal Lite.
> Great idea thanks Julie - will go for V8 - I get the low sodium one as
> well

This is not the regular V-8. It's sweetened with Splenda.

On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e. if
>the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>
>Thanks
>


no.

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On 5/15/08 5:06 PM, in article
482cd05b$0$17505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:49hp24dg1aamt0jubvafqadjatni231o76@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David"
>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
>>> if
>>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
>> juice unless you are correcting a low.
>>
>
> Thanks Alan
> I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend the
> juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has all
> the pulp
>
>
>> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>> --
>> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
>> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>>
>> Angkor Wat
>> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
>
>
I was told in class that pureed fruit is not the same as whole fruit. The
blending breaks down the fibre.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:06:37 +1000, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
>> juice unless you are correcting a low.
>>
>
>Thanks Alan
>I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend the
>juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has all
>the pulp

What are your BG's a half-hour later? When I used to drink
juice, back when I first discovered "Jennifer's Advice" it
used to give me a fast high peak about 30 minutes after
drinking it.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.

Angkor Wat
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:51:35 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>Great idea thanks Julie - will go for V8 - I get the low sodium one as well
>

Still test after drinking, it may still be too high...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:49hp24dg1aamt0jubvafqadjatni231o76@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David"
>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
>>>if
>>>the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>>fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?

>> No.
>>
>> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
>> juice unless you are correcting a low.

> Thanks Alan
> I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend the
> juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has all
> the pulp

As far as chemical constitution is concerned, yes, but not as far as
physical structure and absorption rates are concerned. The blender
chews the stuff into far smaller bits than your teeth could ever
manage, so the soluble constituents hit your bloodstream much faster.

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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:g0ij04$8qu$1@reader2.panix.com...
>>> David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> : If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>>> i.e. if
>>> : the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3
>>> gms
>>> : fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>>
>>> : Thanks
>>>
>>> No. when one sas you can subtract the fiber from the carb cound on
>>> nutritional labels IN THEUSA, that mean the carb number INCLUDES the
>>> fiber, unlke in OZ and Great Britain where the carb count is separate
>>> from
>>> the fibre , which is listed separately. If you add 3 graams of
>>> fiber(fibre) to 10 grams of carb you would still have 10 grams of carb.
>>> In the US that would be listed as 13 grams of carb with an indented
>>> listing of 3 grams of fiber. I Great Britain or oz it would be listed
>>> as
>>> 10 gramsof carb with an unindented line listinf fibre at 3 grams.
>>>
>>> Now that I have completel confused you, I hope you don't try it. Fruit
>>> juice is just a very difficult item for diabetics.
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>
>> Thanks Wendy appreciate that - I will change fruit to V8 - Julie gave me
>> a good tip as V8 has 1/3 the carbs of fruit
>
> Not V8! Diet V8 Splash. V8 is lower in carbs, but still pretty high, I
> think.
Havent heard of Diet V8 - might not be in Australia
V8 is pretty low I think 3 gms in 100ml
thanks Julie

>

"MI" <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> On 5/15/08 5:06 PM, in article
> 482cd05b$0$17505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "David"
> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:49hp24dg1aamt0jubvafqadjatni231o76@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David"
>>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>>>> i.e.
>>>> if
>>>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
>>> juice unless you are correcting a low.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Alan
>> I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend
>> the
>> juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has
>> all
>> the pulp
>>
>>
>>> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>>> --
>>> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
>>> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>>>
>>> Angkor Wat
>>> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
>>
>>
> I was told in class that pureed fruit is not the same as whole fruit. The
> blending breaks down the fibre.

I will try to find out. Thanks for the tip

>
> --
> Martha T2 Canada
> 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
>

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:49hp24dg1aamt0jubvafqadjatni231o76@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:40 +1000, "David"
>>> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs?
>>>>i.e.
>>>>if
>>>>the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>>>>fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
>>> juice unless you are correcting a low.
>
>> Thanks Alan
>> I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend
>> the
>> juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has
>> all
>> the pulp
>
> As far as chemical constitution is concerned, yes, but not as far as
> physical structure and absorption rates are concerned. The blender
> chews the stuff into far smaller bits than your teeth could ever
> manage, so the soluble constituents hit your bloodstream much faster.
>
Good info. Will experiment with BG after each way - what you say makes
sense. Thanks



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> IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
> [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
>

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:06:37 +1000, "David"
> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>> But, if you are a diabetic, I don't recommend that you drink
>>> juice unless you are correcting a low.
>>>
>>
>>Thanks Alan
>>I didnt explain - I lift weights and have protein supplement - I blend the
>>juice so as far as I know that would be equivalent to eating i.e. it has
>>all
>>the pulp
>
> What are your BG's a half-hour later? When I used to drink
> juice, back when I first discovered "Jennifer's Advice" it
> used to give me a fast high peak about 30 minutes after
> drinking it.
>

I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>
> Angkor Wat
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>>
>> What are your BG's a half-hour later? When I used to drink
>> juice, back when I first discovered "Jennifer's Advice" it
>> used to give me a fast high peak about 30 minutes after
>> drinking it.
>>
>
>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4

Too high. Eat the fruit, not the juice nor the pulp. I eat
at least a piece a day as halves for snacks, or the
equivalent in berries.

When I say too high I also include "normally after 2 hours I
am 7.2". Time to re-read this, and add some one-hour tests:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm



Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.

Angkor Wat
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4

OW! Have you come across this link?
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

In article <482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e. if
> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?

It would reduce only its own carbs, not the carbs of anything it was in.

Priscilla

David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

: >>
: > I was told in class that pureed fruit is not the same as whole fruit. The
: > blending breaks down the fibre.

: I will try to find out. Thanks for the tip

: >
: > --
: > Martha T2 Canada
: > 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
: >

Just think of a raw apple and a half cup of no sugar added applesauce.
the applesauce will drive our bgs up faster, although, it is ok if eaten
in great moderation.


Wendy

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hpnq24p6t2qnc1bhpchje9upoo5okleg3h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David"
> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> What are your BG's a half-hour later? When I used to drink
>>> juice, back when I first discovered "Jennifer's Advice" it
>>> used to give me a fast high peak about 30 minutes after
>>> drinking it.
>>>
>>
>>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4
>
> Too high. Eat the fruit, not the juice nor the pulp. I eat
> at least a piece a day as halves for snacks, or the
> equivalent in berries.
>
> When I say too high I also include "normally after 2 hours I
> am 7.2". Time to re-read this, and add some one-hour tests:
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
>

Thanks Alan - I am having a wake up call here

>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>
> Angkor Wat
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:ljtq245m9r2nvsmb4lol4u3iud7vqv2t9l@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4
>
> OW! Have you come across this link?
> http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

Thanks for that excellent link - I am getting scared! I have a lot of
rethinking to do about what I considered 'acceptable'
thanks very much

>
> Nicky.
> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
news:g0kpd1$dpu$1@reader2.panix.com...
> David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> : >>
> : > I was told in class that pureed fruit is not the same as whole fruit.
> The
> : > blending breaks down the fibre.
>
> : I will try to find out. Thanks for the tip
>
> : >
> : > --
> : > Martha T2 Canada
> : > 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
> : >
>
> Just think of a raw apple and a half cup of no sugar added applesauce.
> the applesauce will drive our bgs up faster, although, it is ok if eaten
> in great moderation.

Yes, makes sense - thanks Wendty

>
>
> Wendy

"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-A1A785.12563316052008@individual.net...
> In article <482c9966$0$30466$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> If I add fibre to fruit juice, would it effectivly reduce the carbs? i.e.
>> if
>> the carb content of a glass of juice is 10 gms carbs and I mix in 3 gms
>> fibre, would I be having in real terms 7 gms carbs?
>
> It would reduce only its own carbs, not the carbs of anything it was in.
>
> Priscilla

Yes am scrapping the idea now - will eat the fruit, drink water!

On Sat, 17 May 2008 07:06:54 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
>news:ljtq245m9r2nvsmb4lol4u3iud7vqv2t9l@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4
>>
>> OW! Have you come across this link?
>> http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>
>Thanks for that excellent link - I am getting scared! I have a lot of
>rethinking to do about what I considered 'acceptable'
>thanks very much

Jenny's just put the contents of that site into a book, which is a
thoroughly good read.

It was her analysis of the research that said that anything over about
7.8 at ANY time is dangerous that formed my post-dx eating habits. I
reversed my neuropathy as a result of her advice, using Jennifer's
test,test,test method to implement it - I think Alan gave you that
link, the Newly Diagnosed one. I owe a great deal to those two ladies
(and Alan and several others too!).

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Thu, 15 May 2008 23:24:28 GMT, MI <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Why don't you just eat the fruit? It would be fresh and have all its
>vitamins and minerals. First thing I was taught at the Diabetes Teaching
>Centre I went to--- No fruit juice, unless it's to treat a hypo; eat the
>fruit.

Good simple to follow advice Martha. One good result from questions
being asked is that it gives the opportunity for such advice to be
given for the new diagnosed who may be lurking.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hpnq24p6t2qnc1bhpchje9upoo5okleg3h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David"
> <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> What are your BG's a half-hour later? When I used to drink
>>> juice, back when I first discovered "Jennifer's Advice" it
>>> used to give me a fast high peak about 30 minutes after
>>> drinking it.
>>>
>>
>>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4
>
> Too high. Eat the fruit, not the juice nor the pulp. I eat
> at least a piece a day as halves for snacks, or the
> equivalent in berries.
>
> When I say too high I also include "normally after 2 hours I
> am 7.2". Time to re-read this, and add some one-hour tests:
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
>

Thanks Alan appreciate the excellent advice and links
>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
>
> Angkor Wat
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:0r1s24hhes72j8ht30l8bsk5evdtp9mvn0@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 07:06:54 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
>>news:ljtq245m9r2nvsmb4lol4u3iud7vqv2t9l@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I checked today - normally after 2 hours I am 7.2 - after 1/2 hr 8.4
>>>
>>> OW! Have you come across this link?
>>> http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>>
>>Thanks for that excellent link - I am getting scared! I have a lot of
>>rethinking to do about what I considered 'acceptable'
>>thanks very much
>
> Jenny's just put the contents of that site into a book, which is a
> thoroughly good read.
>
> It was her analysis of the research that said that anything over about
> 7.8 at ANY time is dangerous that formed my post-dx eating habits. I
> reversed my neuropathy as a result of her advice, using Jennifer's
> test,test,test method to implement it - I think Alan gave you that
> link, the Newly Diagnosed one. I owe a great deal to those two ladies
> (and Alan and several others too!).
>

Well I am totally changing my thinking and direction.
My doctor was wrong and allowed me to be complacent - he seems to think
below 7 is excellent control and that seems to be 1 point too high.
I am totally grateful for the response I have had here.
Thanks Nicky


> Nicky.
> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive