Re: Glycated substances & Diabetes?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Bill wrote:
> > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > >
> > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > browning is much safer.
> > >
> > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > >
> > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > >
> > > Etc might be carrots??
> > >
> > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> >
> > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
>
> Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
>
> Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> substances endogenously?

Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
tissue (VAT):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?

> > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > animals.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff0e48b9cc4cc?

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> "> Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > substances endogenously?
>
> Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> tissue (VAT):"
>
> Simply untrue, displays continuing failure to keep up with the
> literature, a willful obsession to mislead to achieve an agenda driven
> non-scientific goal, and more positive proof the source can be safely
> ignored.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff0e48b9cc4cc?

coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> ubstances endogenously?
>
> in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> sue (VAT):"
>
> ply untrue, displays continuing failure to keep up with the
> erature, a willful obsession to mislead to achieve an agenda driven
> -scientific goal, and more positive proof the source can be safely
> ored.
>
> ditto
>
> ditto

In article <1162665872.674597.269470@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
love5@thetruth.com says...
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff0e48b9cc4cc?
>
> coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > ubstances endogenously?
> >
> > in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > sue (VAT):"
> >
> > ply untrue, displays continuing failure to keep up with the
> > erature, a willful obsession to mislead to achieve an agenda driven
> > -scientific goal, and more positive proof the source can be safely
> > ored.
> >
> > ditto
> >
> > ditto
>
>


Sneaky little bastard, you changed domains again.

Plonk!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Bill wrote:
> > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > >
> > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > >
> > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > >
> > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > >
> > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > >
> > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > >
> > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> >
> > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> >
> > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > substances endogenously?
>
> Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> tissue (VAT):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
>
> > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > animals.

Whether overeating causes increased nutrients availability to tissues
resulting more/early growth and replications, thus decreasing the
lifespan?

Can more or early replications of body cells effect aging?

> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Bill wrote:
> > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > >
> > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > >
> > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > >
> > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > >
> > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > >
> > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > >
> > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> >
> > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> >
> > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > substances endogenously?
>
> Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> tissue (VAT):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
>
> > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > animals.
Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
systemic inflammations?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Kumar <lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com>, the hermit and religious recluse,
palpitated:

> Spindly woman of loose morals with horrid frothing gash and ruined
> gagas goes hungry for junior needle for torturing stuff-my-bunny fun
> times. Mail me at <lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com>

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > >
> > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > >
> > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > >
> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > >
> > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > >
> > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > substances endogenously?
> >
> > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > tissue (VAT):
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> >
> > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > animals.
>
> Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> systemic inflammations?

Disseminated tuberculosis.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > > >
> > > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > > substances endogenously?
> > >
> > > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > > tissue (VAT):
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
How glycation and VAT are related?
> > > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > > animals.
> >
> > Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> > systemic inflammations?
>
> Disseminated tuberculosis.
Some other?

Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments? If yes, which
conditions are related to it?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love2@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1163051577.278661.217490@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Kumar wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > Kumar wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > > Bill wrote:
>> > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
>> > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As
>> > > > > > such, Can
>> > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of
>> > > > > > cooking at high
>> > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times.
>> > > > > > Steaming,
>> > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The
>> > > > > > best guide
>> > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation
>> > > > > > products
>> > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so
>> > > > > > any
>> > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or
>> > > > > > none of the
>> > > > > > browning is much safer.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes
>> > > > > sense.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get
>> > > > > our
>> > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Etc might be carrots??
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
>> > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of
>> > > > metabolic
>> > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
>> > >
>> > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
>> > >
>> > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
>> > > substances endogenously?
>> >
>> > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
>> > tissue (VAT):
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
>> >
>> > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
>> > > > animals.
>>
>> Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
>> systemic inflammations?
>
> Disseminated tuberculosis.

I wish your answers to non-medical questions would have been so straight
forward.

>
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
>

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > > > substances endogenously?
> > > >
> > > > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > > > tissue (VAT):
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> How glycation and VAT are related?
> > > > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > > > animals.
> > >
> > > Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> > > systemic inflammations?
> >
> > Disseminated tuberculosis.
>
> Some other?

Disseminated malignancies.

> Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?

Yes.

> If yes, which
> conditions are related to it?

Hyperglycemia.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > > > > substances endogenously?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > > > > tissue (VAT):
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> > How glycation and VAT are related?
> > > > > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > > > > animals.
> > > >
> > > > Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> > > > systemic inflammations?
> > >
> > > Disseminated tuberculosis.
> >
> > Some other?
>
> Disseminated malignancies.
Some other?
> > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
>
> Yes.
>
> > If yes, which
> > conditions are related to it?
>
> Hyperglycemia.

Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
extravascular glycations can effect us?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > > > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > > > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > > > > > substances endogenously?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > > > > > tissue (VAT):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> > > How glycation and VAT are related?
> > > > > > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > > > > > animals.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> > > > > systemic inflammations?
> > > >
> > > > Disseminated tuberculosis.
> > >
> > > Some other?
> >
> > Disseminated malignancies.

> Some other?

Gum disease.

> > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > If yes, which
> > > conditions are related to it?
> >
> > Hyperglycemia.
>
> Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> extravascular glycations can effect us?

As per earlier discussions.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > > > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > > > > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > > > > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > > > > > > substances endogenously?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > > > > > > tissue (VAT):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> > > > How glycation and VAT are related?
> > > > > > > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > > > > > > animals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> > > > > > systemic inflammations?
> > > > >
> > > > > Disseminated tuberculosis.
> > > >
> > > > Some other?
> > >
> > > Disseminated malignancies.
>
> > Some other?
>
> Gum disease.
Which gum disease? Btw, wheher gum disease is a result of systemic or
local inflammation or a cause to it?
> > > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > If yes, which
> > > > conditions are related to it?
> > >
> > > Hyperglycemia.
> >
> > Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> > extravascular glycations can effect us?
>
> As per earlier discussions.
Can we combine VAT(please clear, is it VAT--excessive visceral adipose
tissues or excessive fat store in VAT--greter visceral adiposity),
glycated substances and absorbed fats which may encourage inflammatory
responses( as per other topics) as causes to systemic inflammatory
responses in diabetics?

Btw, whether sugar, carbs, triglycirides(glyceral part)(other are Mg
and NaCl) attract and absorb water in intestines relieving from
constipation and resulting into clear motions and increase motility?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Bill wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > coonskin@amestwp.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > "We can dig more into microwave cooking for this purpose. As such, Can
> > > > > > > > > > > > we avoid glycation of foods by using microwave?"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any method can minimize this. It is mostly a product of cooking at high
> > > > > > > > > > > > temperatures such as with frying and baking for long times. Steaming,
> > > > > > > > > > > > boiling, stewing, microwaving, etc. will produce little. The best guide
> > > > > > > > > > > > is the color of or darkness of finished food. These glycation products
> > > > > > > > > > > > produce the browning effect from long fried and baked foods so any
> > > > > > > > > > > > method, including frying and baking, which produce little or none of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > browning is much safer.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Boiled ham and cabbage Umm. Thanks for the info Coons makes sense.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I thought the interesting point was we can pre--cook and then get our
> > > > > > > > > > > brown turkey / etc and reduce glycation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Fire good Umm Fire bad ...............
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Etc might be carrots??
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Bill who says if it is too difficult I'll change.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wiser to simply eat less down to the right amount and lose all the
> > > > > > > > > > visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which is the proximate cause of metabolic
> > > > > > > > > > syndrome (MetS), which is the precursor of type-2 diabetes:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Overweight.asp
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, but we can discuiss and try understanding various possibilities.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can fruits and milk/diary intake cause production of glycated
> > > > > > > > > substances endogenously?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not in optimal amounts in folks without significant visceral adipose
> > > > > > > > tissue (VAT):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> > > > > How glycation and VAT are related?
> > > > > > > > > > Reducing intake has been shown to double the lifespan of laboratory
> > > > > > > > > > animals.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Other than VAT & possibily glycated substances, what other can cause
> > > > > > > systemic inflammations?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Disseminated tuberculosis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some other?
> > > >
> > > > Disseminated malignancies.
> >
> > > Some other?
> >
> > Gum disease.

> Which gum disease?

Gingivitis.

> Btw, wheher gum disease is a result of systemic or
> local inflammation or a cause to it?

Goes both ways.

> > > > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > > If yes, which
> > > > > conditions are related to it?
> > > >
> > > > Hyperglycemia.
> > >
> > > Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> > > extravascular glycations can effect us?
> >
> > As per earlier discussions.
>
> Can we combine VAT(please clear, is it VAT--excessive visceral adipose
> tissues or excessive fat store in VAT--greter visceral adiposity),
> glycated substances and absorbed fats which may encourage inflammatory
> responses( as per other topics) as causes to systemic inflammatory
> responses in diabetics?

It is the inflammatory cytokines produced by the visceral adipose
tissue (VAT) that promote vascular inflammation thereby causing
increased insulin resistance.

> Btw, whether sugar, carbs, triglycirides(glyceral part)(other are Mg
> and NaCl) attract and absorb water in intestines relieving from
> constipation and resulting into clear motions and increase motility?

Not clinically seen.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
>snip> > > Gum disease.
>
> > Which gum disease?
>
> Gingivitis.
Pyorria?

Which gum disease is more common in diabetics?
> > Btw, wheher gum disease is a result of systemic or
> > local inflammation or a cause to it?
>
> Goes both ways.
>
> > > > > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If yes, which
> > > > > > conditions are related to it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hyperglycemia.
> > > >
> > > > Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> > > > extravascular glycations can effect us?
> > >
> > > As per earlier discussions.
I think those were for intravascular glycations?
> > Can we combine VAT(please clear, is it VAT--excessive visceral adipose
> > tissues or excessive fat store in VAT--greter visceral adiposity),
> > glycated substances and absorbed fats which may encourage inflammatory
> > responses( as per other topics) as causes to systemic inflammatory
> > responses in diabetics?
>
> It is the inflammatory cytokines produced by the visceral adipose
> tissue (VAT) that promote vascular inflammation thereby causing
> increased insulin resistance.
Can't above other conditions/factors add to such inflamation?
> > Btw, whether sugar, carbs, triglycirides(glyceral part)(other are Mg
> > and NaCl) attract and absorb water in intestines relieving from
> > constipation and resulting into clear motions and increase motility?
>
> Not clinically seen.

They are hygroscopic..somewhat may act as MOM acts?

Whether bile is hygroscopic? Can bile's abnormal secretion(less) in
intestine make a person constipated, lazy esp. in morning, sleeping
more, waking late etc.? Two aspects may be related, abnormal bile
comong from liver and abnormal secretion from gall bladder(can't say
about abnormal re-absorption)?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> >snip> > > Gum disease.
> >
> > > Which gum disease?
> >
> > Gingivitis.
>
> Pyorria?
>
> Which gum disease is more common in diabetics?

The following link should help you:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/gumdisease.html

> > > Btw, wheher gum disease is a result of systemic or
> > > local inflammation or a cause to it?
> >
> > Goes both ways.
> >
> > > > > > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If yes, which
> > > > > > > conditions are related to it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hyperglycemia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> > > > > extravascular glycations can effect us?
> > > >
> > > > As per earlier discussions.

> I think those were for intravascular glycations?

No.

> > > Can we combine VAT(please clear, is it VAT--excessive visceral adipose
> > > tissues or excessive fat store in VAT--greter visceral adiposity),
> > > glycated substances and absorbed fats which may encourage inflammatory
> > > responses( as per other topics) as causes to systemic inflammatory
> > > responses in diabetics?
> >
> > It is the inflammatory cytokines produced by the visceral adipose
> > tissue (VAT) that promote vascular inflammation thereby causing
> > increased insulin resistance.

> Can't above other conditions/factors add to such inflamation?

It starts with the VAT.

> > > Btw, whether sugar, carbs, triglycirides(glyceral part)(other are Mg
> > > and NaCl) attract and absorb water in intestines relieving from
> > > constipation and resulting into clear motions and increase motility?
> >
> > Not clinically seen.
>
> They are hygroscopic..somewhat may act as MOM acts?

Still not clinically seen.

> Whether bile is hygroscopic? Can bile's abnormal secretion(less) in
> intestine make a person constipated, lazy esp. in morning, sleeping
> more, waking late etc.? Two aspects may be related, abnormal bile
> comong from liver and abnormal secretion from gall bladder(can't say
> about abnormal re-absorption)?

Clinically not seen.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > >snip> > > Gum disease.
> > >
> > > > Which gum disease?
> > >
> > > Gingivitis.
> >
> > Pyorria?
> >
> > Which gum disease is more common in diabetics?
>
> The following link should help you:
>
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/gumdisease.html

Thanks.
> > > > Btw, wheher gum disease is a result of systemic or
> > > > local inflammation or a cause to it?
> > >
> > > Goes both ways.
Can gum diseases in diabetic be due to cell's swelling interfering in
blood flow and supply resulting into necrosis?
> > > > > > > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If yes, which
> > > > > > > > conditions are related to it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hyperglycemia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> > > > > > extravascular glycations can effect us?
> > > > >
> > > > > As per earlier discussions.
>
> > I think those were for intravascular glycations?
>
> No.
Soory but if you can tell me again?
> > > > Can we combine VAT(please clear, is it VAT--excessive visceral adipose
> > > > tissues or excessive fat store in VAT--greter visceral adiposity),
> > > > glycated substances and absorbed fats which may encourage inflammatory
> > > > responses( as per other topics) as causes to systemic inflammatory
> > > > responses in diabetics?
> > >
> > > It is the inflammatory cytokines produced by the visceral adipose
> > > tissue (VAT) that promote vascular inflammation thereby causing
> > > increased insulin resistance.
>
> > Can't above other conditions/factors add to such inflamation?
>
> It starts with the VAT.

Whether VAT as you mention, is increase of visceral adipose tissues or
greater adiposity/fat stores in visceral adipose tissues?
> > > > Btw, whether sugar, carbs, triglycirides(glyceral part)(other are Mg
> > > > and NaCl) attract and absorb water in intestines relieving from
> > > > constipation and resulting into clear motions and increase motility?
> > >
> > > Not clinically seen.
> >
> > They are hygroscopic..somewhat may act as MOM acts?
>
> Still not clinically seen.

Whether soluble or not solubles fibers are also hygroscopic or releases
some chemicals in intestines?
> > Whether bile is hygroscopic? Can bile's abnormal secretion(less) in
> > intestine make a person constipated, lazy esp. in morning, sleeping
> > more, waking late etc.? Two aspects may be related, abnormal bile
> > comong from liver and abnormal secretion from gall bladder(can't say
> > about abnormal re-absorption)?
>
> Clinically not seen.
Can abnormal or obstructed flow of bile from liver to intestine make a
person lazy, more sleepy, waking late etc.?

I feel abnormalities in bile flow are related to many conditions
couldn't yet evalued?

Which out of bile and gastric acid ir related to either unclear or
clear motions? Billary diahrria is thought?
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > >snip> > > Gum disease.
> > > >
> > > > > Which gum disease?
> > > >
> > > > Gingivitis.
> > >
> > > Pyorria?
> > >
> > > Which gum disease is more common in diabetics?
> >
> > The following link should help you:
> >
> > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/gumdisease.html
>
> Thanks.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

> > > > > Btw, wheher gum disease is a result of systemic or
> > > > > local inflammation or a cause to it?
> > > >
> > > > Goes both ways.

> Can gum diseases in diabetic be due to cell's swelling interfering in
> blood flow and supply resulting into necrosis?

In the type 2 diabetic, it is due in part to the inflammatory cytokines
from viseral adipose tissue (VAT).

> > > > > > > > > Can glycation also occur in extravascular comparments?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If yes, which
> > > > > > > > > conditions are related to it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hyperglycemia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hyperglycemia is not glycation but it is a reason to glycation? How
> > > > > > > extravascular glycations can effect us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As per earlier discussions.
> >
> > > I think those were for intravascular glycations?
> >
> > No.

> Soory but if you can tell me again?

The glycosylations are happening everywhere and not just
intravascularly.

> > > > > Can we combine VAT(please clear, is it VAT--excessive visceral adipose
> > > > > tissues or excessive fat store in VAT--greter visceral adiposity),
> > > > > glycated substances and absorbed fats which may encourage inflammatory
> > > > > responses( as per other topics) as causes to systemic inflammatory
> > > > > responses in diabetics?
> > > >
> > > > It is the inflammatory cytokines produced by the visceral adipose
> > > > tissue (VAT) that promote vascular inflammation thereby causing
> > > > increased insulin resistance.
> >
> > > Can't above other conditions/factors add to such inflamation?
> >
> > It starts with the VAT.
>
> Whether VAT as you mention, is increase of visceral adipose tissues or
> greater adiposity/fat stores in visceral adipose tissues?

VAT is simply visceral adipose tissue which can be quantified by
measuring waist circumference.

> > > > > Btw, whether sugar, carbs, triglycirides(glyceral part)(other are Mg
> > > > > and NaCl) attract and absorb water in intestines relieving from
> > > > > constipation and resulting into clear motions and increase motility?
> > > >
> > > > Not clinically seen.
> > >
> > > They are hygroscopic..somewhat may act as MOM acts?
> >
> > Still not clinically seen.
>
> Whether soluble or not solubles fibers are also hygroscopic or releases
> some chemicals in intestines?

Soluble fiber in the diet comes with its own water so that it is not
hygroscopic.

> > > Whether bile is hygroscopic? Can bile's abnormal secretion(less) in
> > > intestine make a person constipated, lazy esp. in morning, sleeping
> > > more, waking late etc.? Two aspects may be related, abnormal bile
> > > comong from liver and abnormal secretion from gall bladder(can't say
> > > about abnormal re-absorption)?
> >
> > Clinically not seen.

> Can abnormal or obstructed flow of bile from liver to intestine make a
> person lazy, more sleepy, waking late etc.?

Not clinically seen.

> I feel abnormalities in bile flow are related to many conditions
> couldn't yet evalued?

You would be wise to inform your doctor(s) about your s