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08-17-2007, 01:03 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >convicted neighbor David Silverman (satan's Little Helper wrote):
> > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > >> BTW, where's that thesis?
> > >
> > > >The 200+ page dissertation resides in the library at Emory University.
> > >
> > > And it's very enlightening. Compare Dr. Chung's writing style and
> > > content then [1993] with what he's doing these days;
> >
> > It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> > everything I say, do, and write now... as it was my choice to receive
> > HIS guidance then.
> >
> > > it's actually very
> > > sad to see the difference because the motto is right: a mind is a
> > > terrible thing to waste.
> >
> > The difference comes not from my mind but from HIS will :-)
> >
> > > [Begin]
> > > Transcription factors that recognize the OXBOX/REBOX sequence motifs
> > > have been implicated in the coordinate regulation of the expression of
> > > mitochondrial respiration genes in muscle cells (Chung et al, 1992). The
> > > OXBOX/REBOX cis elements were first identified in the promoters of the
> > > muscle adenine nucleotide translocator (ANT1) and the F$\sb1$ ATP
> > > synthase $\beta$ subunit (ATPsyn$\beta)$ genes (Li et al, 1989;
> > > Neckelmann et al, 1990). Identifying other genes that have putative
> > > OXBOX/REBOX promoter elements led to the hypothesis that the OXBOX/REBOX
> > > trans factors may globally regulate many aspects of mitochondrial
> > > function. Purifying proteins with specific OXBOX/REBOX binding affinity
> > > revealed that as many as six different polypeptides may be involved.
> > > Cloning candidate OXBOX/REBOX transcription factor genes provided probes
> > > that upon Northern RNA analysis suggested higher levels of transcripts
> > > in muscle for the putative OXBOX binding factor (RBF2) and the
> > > ubiquitous presence of transcripts for the putative REBOX binding factor
> > > (RBF3). The deduced RBF3 polypeptide has domain homologies consistent
> > > with its proposed role as a redox-sensitive transcriptional activator.
> > > [End]
> > > http://www.library.emory.edu/uhtbin/...AL/236800335/9
> > >
> > > FWIW, my dissertation was about the same length but was only for a
> > > Master's degree.
> >
> > Yours would be a master's thesis and not a PhD dissertation.
> >
> > > Length doesn't always matter.
> >
> > For a PhD dissertation, it is content that matters more than length.
> >
> > It is because of this background of awesome GOD-given knowledge about
> > the regulation of mitochondrial respiration genes in our cells that
> > the 2PD-OMER Approach was conceived in the mind of this scientist.
>
> Sort of puts one in mind of Linus Pauling and vitamin C, does it
> not?
No.
> Sadly enough.
Helping folks lose their bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue) to
cure their insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly even their type-2
diabetes is not sad: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing
> >
> > Therefore, all the praise and glory for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs
> > to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
>
> Speaking of which
You misspelled "Whom"
> , when will that study of said "Approach" -- the
> study involving "more than 625,550" subjects -- be available in
> a peer-reviewed journal for all to see?
GOD's will be done and not my will.
Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist | 
08-17-2007, 01:03 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! In article <1187302121.452348.128620@50g2000hsm.googlegroups. com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc9@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >convicted neighbor David Silverman (satan's Little Helper wrote):
> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> BTW, where's that thesis?
> > > >
> > > > >The 200+ page dissertation resides in the library at Emory University.
> > > >
> > > > And it's very enlightening. Compare Dr. Chung's writing style and
> > > > content then [1993] with what he's doing these days;
> > >
> > > It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> > > everything I say, do, and write now... as it was my choice to receive
> > > HIS guidance then.
> > >
> > > > it's actually very
> > > > sad to see the difference because the motto is right: a mind is a
> > > > terrible thing to waste.
> > >
> > > The difference comes not from my mind but from HIS will :-)
> > >
> > > > [Begin]
> > > > Transcription factors that recognize the OXBOX/REBOX sequence motifs
> > > > have been implicated in the coordinate regulation of the expression of
> > > > mitochondrial respiration genes in muscle cells (Chung et al, 1992). The
> > > > OXBOX/REBOX cis elements were first identified in the promoters of the
> > > > muscle adenine nucleotide translocator (ANT1) and the F$\sb1$ ATP
> > > > synthase $\beta$ subunit (ATPsyn$\beta)$ genes (Li et al, 1989;
> > > > Neckelmann et al, 1990). Identifying other genes that have putative
> > > > OXBOX/REBOX promoter elements led to the hypothesis that the OXBOX/REBOX
> > > > trans factors may globally regulate many aspects of mitochondrial
> > > > function. Purifying proteins with specific OXBOX/REBOX binding affinity
> > > > revealed that as many as six different polypeptides may be involved.
> > > > Cloning candidate OXBOX/REBOX transcription factor genes provided probes
> > > > that upon Northern RNA analysis suggested higher levels of transcripts
> > > > in muscle for the putative OXBOX binding factor (RBF2) and the
> > > > ubiquitous presence of transcripts for the putative REBOX binding factor
> > > > (RBF3). The deduced RBF3 polypeptide has domain homologies consistent
> > > > with its proposed role as a redox-sensitive transcriptional activator.
> > > > [End]
> > > > http://www.library.emory.edu/uhtbin/...AL/236800335/9
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, my dissertation was about the same length but was only for a
> > > > Master's degree.
> > >
> > > Yours would be a master's thesis and not a PhD dissertation.
> > >
> > > > Length doesn't always matter.
> > >
> > > For a PhD dissertation, it is content that matters more than length.
> > >
> > > It is because of this background of awesome GOD-given knowledge about
> > > the regulation of mitochondrial respiration genes in our cells that
> > > the 2PD-OMER Approach was conceived in the mind of this scientist.
> >
> > Sort of puts one in mind of Linus Pauling and vitamin C, does it
> > not?
>
> No.
>
> > Sadly enough.
>
> Helping folks lose their bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue) to
> cure their insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly even their type-2
> diabetes is not sad:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing
>
> > >
> > > Therefore, all the praise and glory for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs
> > > to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
> >
> > Speaking of which
>
> You misspelled "Whom"
>
> > , when will that study of said "Approach" -- the
> > study involving "more than 625,550" subjects -- be available in
> > a peer-reviewed journal for all to see?
>
> GOD's will be done and not my will.
Oh, I suspect that there will be no problem with that latter part.
None at all.
-- cary | 
08-17-2007, 01:03 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >convicted neighbor David Silverman (satan's Little Helper wrote):
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> BTW, where's that thesis?
> > > > >
> > > > > >The 200+ page dissertation resides in the library at Emory University.
> > > > >
> > > > > And it's very enlightening. Compare Dr. Chung's writing style and
> > > > > content then [1993] with what he's doing these days;
> > > >
> > > > It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> > > > everything I say, do, and write now... as it was my choice to receive
> > > > HIS guidance then.
> > > >
> > > > > it's actually very
> > > > > sad to see the difference because the motto is right: a mind is a
> > > > > terrible thing to waste.
> > > >
> > > > The difference comes not from my mind but from HIS will :-)
> > > >
> > > > > [Begin]
> > > > > Transcription factors that recognize the OXBOX/REBOX sequence motifs
> > > > > have been implicated in the coordinate regulation of the expression of
> > > > > mitochondrial respiration genes in muscle cells (Chung et al, 1992). The
> > > > > OXBOX/REBOX cis elements were first identified in the promoters of the
> > > > > muscle adenine nucleotide translocator (ANT1) and the F$\sb1$ ATP
> > > > > synthase $\beta$ subunit (ATPsyn$\beta)$ genes (Li et al, 1989;
> > > > > Neckelmann et al, 1990). Identifying other genes that have putative
> > > > > OXBOX/REBOX promoter elements led to the hypothesis that the OXBOX/REBOX
> > > > > trans factors may globally regulate many aspects of mitochondrial
> > > > > function. Purifying proteins with specific OXBOX/REBOX binding affinity
> > > > > revealed that as many as six different polypeptides may be involved.
> > > > > Cloning candidate OXBOX/REBOX transcription factor genes provided probes
> > > > > that upon Northern RNA analysis suggested higher levels of transcripts
> > > > > in muscle for the putative OXBOX binding factor (RBF2) and the
> > > > > ubiquitous presence of transcripts for the putative REBOX binding factor
> > > > > (RBF3). The deduced RBF3 polypeptide has domain homologies consistent
> > > > > with its proposed role as a redox-sensitive transcriptional activator.
> > > > > [End]
> > > > > http://www.library.emory.edu/uhtbin/...AL/236800335/9
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, my dissertation was about the same length but was only for a
> > > > > Master's degree.
> > > >
> > > > Yours would be a master's thesis and not a PhD dissertation.
> > > >
> > > > > Length doesn't always matter.
> > > >
> > > > For a PhD dissertation, it is content that matters more than length.
> > > >
> > > > It is because of this background of awesome GOD-given knowledge about
> > > > the regulation of mitochondrial respiration genes in our cells that
> > > > the 2PD-OMER Approach was conceived in the mind of this scientist.
> > >
> > > Sort of puts one in mind of Linus Pauling and vitamin C, does it
> > > not?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > > Sadly enough.
> >
> > Helping folks lose their bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue) to
> > cure their insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly even their type-2
> > diabetes is not sad:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing
> >
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, all the praise and glory for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs
> > > > to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
> > >
> > > Speaking of which
> >
> > You misspelled "Whom"
> >
> > > , when will that study of said "Approach" -- the
> > > study involving "more than 625,550" subjects -- be available in
> > > a peer-reviewed journal for all to see?
> >
> > GOD's will be done and not my will.
>
> Oh, I suspect that there will be no problem with that latter part.
Those who have HIS wisdom have no problems.
> None at all.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly testify to the utility of having HIS wisdom :-)
Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist | 
08-17-2007, 12:31 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist
Peter Larsen | 
08-17-2007, 01:58 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! On 17 Aug, 07:29, Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plar...@mail.tele.dk>
wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
> may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
He's a well-known spammer, infesting atheist newsgroups as well as
medical ones. Just treat the idiot like the complete loony he is.
Sadly you can't killfile crap like his on Google, but you can using a
Newsreader like Agent.
>
> > Andrew <><
> > --
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Cardiologist
>
> Peter Larsen | 
08-17-2007, 05:14 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! And what's this "Laus Deo" ? is it "New Latin" ?
"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIELD_plarsen@mail.tele.dk> a écrit ...
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
>> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
> may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
>
>> Andrew <><
>> --
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>> Cardiologist
>
> Peter Larsen | 
08-17-2007, 05:14 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! Frank t2 wrote:
> I did ly latin SO long ago ...
>
> Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?
>
Could be. The reference I found was to a quote scratched into the cap on
the top of the Washington Memorial, so it could be the American spelling;-)
If you're bored enough.... http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/monument.asp
My latin was 30 plus years ago.....
At that I nearly failed the exam.
Tciao for Now!
John. | 
08-17-2007, 05:14 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! Frank t2 wrote:
> And what's this "Laus Deo" ? is it "New Latin" ?
>
>
"Praise be to G*d" | 
08-17-2007, 05:14 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! I did ly latin SO long ago ...
Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?
"John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> a écrit ...
> Frank t2 wrote:
>> And what's this "Laus Deo" ? is it "New Latin" ?
>>
>>
> "Praise be to G*d" | 
08-17-2007, 05:14 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! neighbor Peter Larsen wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...4c2fdc3b40bb6?
>
> > Helping folks lose their bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue) to
> > cure their insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly even their type-2
> > diabetes is not sad:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups
It remains my choice to not be religious.
> - where your posts may be acceptable and on topic
It should be obvious to the most casual observer that my posts have
been on-topic.
> - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly confess to witnessing HIS miracle that a physician
would have the time to help others sight unseen via unmoderated
usenet.
Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist | 
08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! "Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIELD_plarsen@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
news:46C54046.A7F3F2DF@mail.tele.dk...
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>>
>> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
> may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
>
Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian speaking of
their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups? Please confine you comments to
atheist news groups, for we here value both Andy's medical advice, as well
as his Christian witness.
See below the record of militant atheism.
Pastor Frank
Preamble to: THE FRUITS OF MILITANT ATHEISM in the new USSR
By Brian Moynahan/The Faith: A History of Christianity/Doubleday,
NY/2002/pp. 670-674.
The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion. The
preceding examples show the militant atheist ego at its murderous
worst. They also reveal that religionists are not the only people who
cower in the herd, as is shown by the Stalinists' pathetic recourse to
'atheist churches' such as the LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS
and the Groups of THE GODLESS YOUTH, complete with 'hymns.'
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A decree in January 1918... banned religious teaching in all
schools, colleges, and universities. All church buildings were taken
by the state... Church and monastic land was nationalized. No
compensation was offered for confiscated assets... Under the new
constitution, the clergy - together with capitalists, criminals, and
imbeciles - were deprived of the right to vote or hold state offices.
In practice this denied the clergy the right to food rations and their
children to education... the Orthodox Church was stripped of its legal
privileges, its land, and its source of income...
Calculated persecution returned after the Bolshevik victory in
1921. Lenin sanctioned terror as a form of pesticide to be used on
people whom he dehumanized as "harmful insects...scoundrel
fleas...bedbugs"... Émigrés estimated that 1200 priests and 28
bishops had been killed by 1923, and thousands of others, with monks
and nuns, were deported.
On Easter Day, 1925, the foundation congress of THE LEAGUE OF THE
MILITANT GODLESS was held. Its duty was to eradicate religion through
propaganda, pressure, and ridicule...
The method that Stalin used to force the peasantry onto collective
farms was terror-famine, and the result was a holocaust. Boris
Pasternak, who made a trip to gather material on collectivization,
found himself dumb with horror. "What I saw could not be expressed in
words... There was such inhuman, unimaginable misery, such a terrible
disaster, that it began to seem almost abstract, it would not fit
within the bounds of consciousness." Grain was confiscated from
starving families to gain hard currency for Stalin's industrialization
program... It is probable that fourteen million peasants died...
Communist activists led the grain searches, shot hoarders, and
herded families onto deportation transports as a matter of dogma; they
were pitiless, for dogma demanded "no concessions to
rightist-deviationist attitudes" and "no pacifism."...
Terror, and scientific atheism, was also applied to the Church.
Stalin introduced a Law of religious Associations in 1929 that banned
churches from all work with children and young people. Churches were
not allowed to organize reading rooms, libraries, excursions,
children's playgrounds, sewing groups, or bible readings; they could
not sponsor sanatoria or medical care; their priests were forbidden to
take part in any activity outside the immediate neighbourhood of the
"prayer building," the new name for "church." An attempt was made to
extinguish religion as a whole. The fury fell most harshly on the
Orthodox clergy, but thousands of other Christian priests, Baptists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics,and mullahs and rabbis...were also
persecuted... some were shot, though most of those arrested suffered a
lingering death in the work camps of Siberia and the Arctic. Others
lived on the run...
Membership in THE LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS reached five
million by 1935. Children between eight and fourteen were enrolled in
GROUPS OF GODLESS YOUTH before graduating to Komsomol, the League of
Communist Youth. Prizes were offered for the best "godless hymns" and
to children who denounced their parents for voicing anti-Party
sentiments... Only one in forty churches survived; the others were
smashed to rubble or turned into warehouses, offices, and museums.
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow was destroyed with
dynamite, although care was taken to do so in the dead of night. A
Palace of Soviets topped by a huge statue of Lenin was to be built in
its place, but the site had weak foundations and it was used for a
giant open-air swimming pool instead. No churches or meeting places
were permitted in the new industrial cities...
In statistical terms the Godless looked to have won. There were
163 Orthodox bishops in 1914, and by 1939 only four survived in
freedom; of the old body of clergy 51,105 clergy, the number still in
their parishes was in the hundreds... "Religion is like a nail,"
Yaroslavsky wearily admitted. "The harder you strike it, the deeper
it goes."
Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is
complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-
extinction: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds
(down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens
of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed.
Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937-38. During World
War II, however, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic
organization, after the NKVD had recruited the new metropolitan, the
first after the revolution, as a secret agent. Thousands of parishes
were reactivated, until a further round of suppression in Khrushchev's
time.
The Russian Orthodox Church Synod's recognition of the Soviet
government and of Stalin personally led to a schism with the Russian
Orthodox Church Outside Russia that remains not fully healed to the
present day.
Just days before Stalin's death, certain religious sects were outlawed
and persecuted. Many religions popular in the ethnic regions of the Soviet
Union, including the Roman Catholic Church, Uniats, Baptists, Islam,
Buddhism, Judaism, etc. underwent ordeals similar to the Orthodox churches
in other parts: thousands of monks were persecuted, and hundreds of
churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, sacred monuments, monasteries and
other religious buildings were razed.
This was the great secular humanistic experiment, a people without God
who would inaugerate a new age, were being human and humane would be
synonimous. It had the support of the entire intelligencia, and yet, ...the
end thereof was death and destruction on a massive scale.
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> LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
> in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
> most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
> at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
> The combined killings done by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
> throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
> by atheists in a single century.
--
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08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! "Erica Nurney" <j_peasemold_gruntfuttock@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187353020.485231.307880@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> On 17 Aug, 07:29, Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plar...@mail.tele.dk>
> wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>>
>> > Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>>
>> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
>> may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
>> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
>> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
>> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
>> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
>
> He's a well-known spammer, infesting atheist newsgroups as well as
> medical ones. Just treat the idiot like the complete loony he is.
> Sadly you can't killfile crap like his on Google, but you can using a
> Newsreader like Agent.
>
Why are you, a militant atheist, infesting our pristine groups, spouting
flames? Anyone getting atheist minions of Satan to screech hate furiously
and uncontrollably, obviously has something going for him. Personally, I
never managed to elicit more than a mild rebuke from atheists.
Join us in praise and worship of Him, who loves us enough to give His
life for us abject sinners.
--
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08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:35:58 +0200, " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
>I did ly latin SO long ago ...
>
>Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?
Hi Frank,
I thing "laus", as used here, is a noun, literally meaning "praise",
or "glory".
"Deo", as used here, would translate as the English prepositional
phrase "to God".
Someone could just as easily say the same thing as an imperative, in
which case it might appear as "laudate Deum" (being the accusative of
Deus)
Will, T2 | 
08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! convicted neighbor Frank t2 wrote:
> convicted neighbor "Peter Larsen" wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...4c2fdc3b40bb6?
> >
> > <nothing meaningful>
>
> And what's this "Laus Deo" ?
Praise be to GOD.
> is it "New Latin" ?
No.
Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
> | 
08-18-2007, 08:15 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo !
Don't try to BS me .. as I wrote, I already DID latin...
Latin America would have NO surprises for me ... lol
"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> a écrit ...
> " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
>
>>I did ly latin SO long ago ...
>>
>>Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?
>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I thing "laus", as used here, is a noun, literally meaning "praise",
> or "glory".
>
> "Deo", as used here, would translate as the English prepositional
> phrase "to God".
>
> Someone could just as easily say the same thing as an imperative, in
> which case it might appear as "laudate Deum" (being the accusative of
> Deus)
>
> Will, T2 | 
08-18-2007, 08:15 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:42:16 +0200, " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
>Don't try to BS me .. as I wrote, I already DID latin...
>Latin America would have NO surprises for me ... lol
Oh, well.... in that case, I guess the joke must be upon me, then....
I am used to reading classical Latin texts...
Will, T2 | 
08-18-2007, 08:15 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! lol
Get back to your music ...
I'm operatic by preference, and strickly non-Wagnerian ...
"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> a écrit ...
> " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
>
>>Don't try to BS me .. as I wrote, I already DID latin...
>>Latin America would have NO surprises for me ... lol
>
>
> Oh, well.... in that case, I guess the joke must be upon me, then....
>
> I am used to reading classical Latin texts...
>
> Will, T2 | 
08-18-2007, 08:15 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual spout
of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
scripture and of the terminological classifications you use, including even
the word religion, make your being pretty transparent.
In the bible it warns against smooth tongued lip-servers of Christ, as well
as of the dangers of ignorant zealotry. Belief is not based on judgment of
others, nor is any such man who classifies another easily a true man of the
cloth. Practice what what you preach means. As for "getting atheist
minions of Satan to screech hate uncontrollably" as a sign for having
something going for you. You don't. You Have proven insulting to an
individual who saves lives daily. You have proven yourself intolerant and
bigoted in a way inconsistent with true faith, and made everyone look bad,
in turn, simply by the stigma you have attached to the words you
misrepresent so vocally. Negative reinforcement does not spread the word.
It keeps others from hearing it. All you have accomplished is a short
bolster of your own ego, probably necessitated by deep seeded
self-confidence issues. You do not need a forum for evangelizing. You need
a shrink. Pardon my judgmental attitude, but, I am no 'pastor', and maybe
the shock value intrinsic to the statement will do some good to you, or more
likely others, that make the statement pardonable. | 
08-18-2007, 08:15 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo !
Joe Smith wrote:
> Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual spout
> of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
> scripture and of the terminological classifications you use, including even
> the word religion, make your being pretty transparent.
>
> In the bible it warns against smooth tongued lip-servers of Christ, as well
> as of the dangers of ignorant zealotry. Belief is not based on judgment of
> others, nor is any such man who classifies another easily a true man of the
> cloth. Practice what what you preach means. As for "getting atheist
> minions of Satan to screech hate uncontrollably" as a sign for having
> something going for you. You don't. You Have proven insulting to an
> individual who saves lives daily. You have proven yourself intolerant and
> bigoted in a way inconsistent with true faith, and made everyone look bad,
> in turn, simply by the stigma you have attached to the words you
> misrepresent so vocally. Negative reinforcement does not spread the word.
> It keeps others from hearing it. All you have accomplished is a short
> bolster of your own ego, probably necessitated by deep seeded
> self-confidence issues. You do not need a forum for evangelizing. You need
> a shrink. Pardon my judgmental attitude, but, I am no 'pastor', and maybe
> the shock value intrinsic to the statement will do some good to you, or more
> likely others, that make the statement pardonable.
This one I MUST save under 'works of art' | 
08-18-2007, 06:12 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! Pastor Frank wrote:
> Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian
> speaking of their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups?
I'm not militant, my religion, if any, is none of your business. My
follow up would not have been cross-posted back to where-ever you type
from if not for Andrews crossposting. So there ...
> Please confine you comments to atheist news groups, for we here
> value both Andy's medical advice, as well as his Christian witness.
To the emperor that which is of the emperor and to God that which is of
God. You too, as well as Andrew Chung, would help your own cause greatly
by understanding and implementing that.
It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context that saying
suggests that good on topic advice in the context of whatever newsgroup
it is is the most helpful. The diabetes newsgroups are health advice and
support newsgroups and deal with a disease that hits without any regard
for religion. Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.
Some of the diabetes advice I have seen from Andrew has been to the
point, it is folly to keep non- or other-religous readers away from it
by wrapping it in bible pages.
Kind regards
Peter Larsen | 
08-18-2007, 06:12 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:18:23 +0200, Peter Larsen
<SPAMSHIELD_plarsen@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
>Pastor Frank wrote:
>
>> Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian
>> speaking of their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups?
>
>I'm not militant, my religion, if any, is none of your business. My
>follow up would not have been cross-posted back to where-ever you type
>from if not for Andrews crossposting. So there ...
>
>> Please confine you comments to atheist news groups, for we here
>> value both Andy's medical advice, as well as his Christian witness.
>
>To the emperor that which is of the emperor and to God that which is of
>God. You too, as well as Andrew Chung, would help your own cause greatly
>by understanding and implementing that.
>
>It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context that saying
>suggests that good on topic advice in the context of whatever newsgroup
>it is is the most helpful. The diabetes newsgroups are health advice and
>support newsgroups and deal with a disease that hits without any regard
>for religion. Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
>not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.
>
>Some of the diabetes advice I have seen from Andrew has been to the
>point, it is folly to keep non- or other-religous readers away from it
>by wrapping it in bible pages.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen
People that awareness is less than one day cannot understand
the consequences of their action long term.
They actually demand thing that result in harm to them..
Good or bad, we live in an age of tolerance. Time
will tell what the result will be.
A simple request is all we can do to reduce some things
disturbing to some.
There is no requirement to read an post.
BUT to post false medical information is a very
stupid and corrupt act.
Those that want to be leaders should
educate themselves or qualify their posts.
Grade school baiting is not a honorable
act.
DR,Chung, you know how I feel, please consider
others more and your religious claims
will ring truer.
As long as you try to make no law to compromise
my right to develop my own beliefs, I will accept you
but it will not change me..
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08-19-2007, 02:32 AM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! convicted friend Guy(g...@consolidated.net) wrote:
> neighbor Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plarsen@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
> >Pastor Frank wrote:
> >
> >> Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian
> >> speaking of their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups?
> >
> >I'm not militant, my religion, if any, is none of your business. My
> >follow up would not have been cross-posted back to where-ever you type
> >from if not for Andrews crossposting. So there ...
> >
> >> Please confine you comments to atheist news groups, for we here
> >> value both Andy's medical advice, as well as his Christian witness.
> >
> >To the emperor that which is of the emperor and to God that which is of
> >God. You too, as well as Andrew Chung, would help your own cause greatly
> >by understanding and implementing that.
> >
> >It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context that saying
> >suggests that good on topic advice in the context of whatever newsgroup
> >it is is the most helpful. The diabetes newsgroups are health advice and
> >support newsgroups and deal with a disease that hits without any regard
> >for religion. Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
> >not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.
> >
> >Some of the diabetes advice I have seen from Andrew has been to the
> >point, it is folly to keep non- or other-religous readers away from it
> >by wrapping it in bible pages.
>
> People that awareness is less than one day cannot understand
> the consequences of their action long term.
Our existence is simply a blink of an eye for GOD.
> They actually demand thing that result in harm to them..
This is why there is much wisdom in simply accepting that GOD's will
be done and not ours.
> Good or bad, we live in an age of tolerance. Time
> will tell what the result will be.
>
> A simple request is all we can do to reduce some things
> disturbing to some.
>
> There is no requirement to read an post.
Correct.
> BUT to post false medical information is a very
> stupid and corrupt act.
Susan knows not what she is doing. She has been forgiven by me. She
remains in my prayers that GOD forgives her for she knows not what she
is doing.
> Those that want to be leaders should
> educate themselves or qualify their posts.
Agree.
> Grade school baiting is not a honorable
> act.
Agree again.
> DR,Chung, you know how I feel, please consider
> others more and your religious claims
> will ring truer.
It remains my choice to not be religious: http://abchung.livejournal.com/1176....d=10136#t10136
> As long as you try to make no law to compromise
> my right to develop my own beliefs, I will accept you
> but it will not change me..
It is GOD Who will change you... if it be HIS will.
Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist | 
08-19-2007, 01:49 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! "Joe Smith" <jasmith42@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13ccsot2mkvvh08@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual spout
> of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
> scripture and of the terminological classifications you use, including
> even the word religion, make your being pretty transparent.
> In the bible it warns against smooth tongued lip-servers of Christ, as
> well as of the dangers of ignorant zealotry. Belief is not based on
> judgment of others, nor is any such man who classifies another easily a
> true man of the cloth. Practice what what you preach means. As for
> "getting atheist minions of Satan to screech hate uncontrollably" as a
> sign for having something going for you. You don't. You Have proven
> insulting to an individual who saves lives daily. You have proven
> yourself intolerant and bigoted in a way inconsistent with true faith, and
> made everyone look bad, in turn, simply by the stigma you have attached to
> the words you misrepresent so vocally. Negative reinforcement does not
> spread the word. It keeps others from hearing it. All you have
> accomplished is a short bolster of your own ego, probably necessitated by
> deep seeded self-confidence issues. You do not need a forum for
> evangelizing. You need a shrink. Pardon my judgmental attitude, but, I
> am no 'pastor', and maybe the shock value intrinsic to the statement will
> do some good to you, or more likely others, that make the statement
> pardonable.
>
You don't believe "Satan's atheist minions" actually exist, do you? Most
likely because you were taught in atheist school, or what's the same,
secular humanist school, that everyone is basically good, and not evil like
the Bible tells us.
However your lies about not being an atheist minion of Satan yourself
becomes obvious by the lack of evidence you present for your accusations.
You even erased the original post and author. LOL You gave yourself away by
those actions, for Christians are keen to evidence everything they say very
carefully, by citing the Bible and/or following normal court procedure.
Check below what Christ Himself had to say about Satan's minions.
As is, your accusations are dismissed for lack of evidence. "logical
fallacy" indeed!!!!
Pastor Frank
JESUS HOLDS FORTH RE: THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES
Jesus in Mt:23:13: But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in
yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore
ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
23: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay
tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters
of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and
not to leave the other undone.
25: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make
clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full
of extortion and excess.
27: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are
like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are
within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
29: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye
build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the
righteous.
30: And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not
have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31: Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children
of them which killed the prophets.
32: Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
34: Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and
scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall
ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,
from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of
Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36: Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this
generation.
37: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest
them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children
together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would
not!
38: Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39: For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall
say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Jesus in Jn:8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
--
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08-19-2007, 01:49 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo ! "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:46C68FBA.79834441@netvigator.com...
> Joe Smith wrote:
>>
>> Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual
>> spout
>> of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
>> scripture and of the terminological classifications you use, including
>> even
>> the word religion, make your being pretty transparent.
>> In the bible it warns against smooth tongued lip-servers of Christ, as
>> well
>> as of the dangers of ignorant zealotry. Belief is not based on judgment
>> of
>> others, nor is any such man who classifies another easily a true man of
>> the
>> cloth. Practice what what you preach means. As for "getting atheist
>> minions of Satan to screech hate uncontrollably" as a sign for having
>> something going for you. You don't. You Have proven insulting to an
>> individual who saves lives daily. You have proven yourself intolerant
>> and
>> bigoted in a way inconsistent with true faith, and made everyone look
>> bad,
>> in turn, simply by the stigma you have attached to the words you
>> misrepresent so vocally. Negative reinforcement does not spread the word.
>> It keeps others from hearing it. All you have accomplished is a short
>> bolster of your own ego, probably necessitated by deep seeded
>> self-confidence issues. You do not need a forum for evangelizing. You
>> need
>> a shrink. Pardon my judgmental attitude, but, I am no 'pastor', and
>> maybe
>> the shock value intrinsic to the statement will do some good to you, or
>> more
>> likely others, that make the statement pardonable.
>
> This one I MUST save under 'works of art'
>
That collection of unevidenced accusations you have been "saving" all
your life must be getting pretty voluminous by now. Yet, it's all irrelevant
in the end, for then you will stand before Him whom you have denied and need
to give account of what you did with the life He gave you.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com | 
08-19-2007, 01:49 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo !
Pastor Frank wrote:
> "Joe Smith" <jasmith42@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13ccsot2mkvvh08@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual spout
> > of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
> > scripture and of the terminological classifications you use, including
> > even the word religion, make your being pretty transparent.
> > In the bible it warns against smooth tongued lip-servers of Christ, as
> > well as of the dangers of ignorant zealotry. Belief is not based on
> > judgment of others, nor is any such man who classifies another easily a
> > true man of the cloth. Practice what what you preach means. As for
> > "getting atheist minions of Satan to screech hate uncontrollably" as a
> > sign for having something going for you. You don't. You Have proven
> > insulting to an individual who saves lives daily. You have proven
> > yourself intolerant and bigoted in a way inconsistent with true faith, and
> > made everyone look bad, in turn, simply by the stigma you have attached to
> > the words you misrepresent so vocally. Negative reinforcement does not
> > spread the word. It keeps others from hearing it. All you have
> > accomplished is a short bolster of your own ego, probably necessitated by
> > deep seeded self-confidence issues. You do not need a forum for
> > evangelizing. You need a shrink. Pardon my judgmental attitude, but, I
> > am no 'pastor', and maybe the shock value intrinsic to the statement will
> > do some good to you, or more likely others, that make the statement
> > pardonable.
> >
> You don't believe "Satan's atheist minions" actually exist, do you? Most
> likely because you were taught in atheist school, or what's the same,
> secular humanist school, that everyone is basically good, and not evil like
> the Bible tells us.
> However your lies about not being an atheist minion of Satan yourself
> becomes obvious by the lack of evidence you present for your accusations.
> You even erased the original post and author. LOL You gave yourself away by
> those actions, for Christians are keen to evidence everything they say very
> carefully, by citing the Bible and/or following normal court procedure.
> Check below what Christ Himself had to say about Satan's minions.
You bloody fool - 'He' was supposed to have wandered the desert over two
thousand years ago, only a banal idiot would subscribe to actually knowing what
ANYONE said that long ago
Grow UP
>
> As is, your accusations are dismissed for lack of evidence. "logical
> fallacy" indeed!!!!
.............and so are the words of your Jesus
He was rather petty don't you think, stood in front of a crowd and cured a
leper - why didn't he cure ALL the lepers? Because the myth writer would not
have got away with it that's why, there being, no doubt, more lepers down the
road who would give the show away.
You lot are like narrow minded children, no ignore that; kids have more sense,
more sense that is until they become brainwashed
>
>
> Pastor Frank
>
> JESUS HOLDS FORTH RE: THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES
> Jesus in Mt:23:13: But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
> for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in
> yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
> 14: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
> devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore
> ye shall receive the greater damnation.
> 15: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
> compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
> him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
> 23: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay
> tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters
> of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and
> not to leave the other undone.
> 25: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make
> clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full
> of extortion and excess.
> 27: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are
> like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are
> within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
> 29: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye
> build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the
> righteous.
> 30: And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not
> have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
> 31: Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children
> of them which killed the prophets.
> 32: Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
> 33: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
> damnation of hell?
> 34: Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and
> scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall
> ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
> 35: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,
> from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of
> Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
> 36: Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this
> generation.
> 37: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest
> them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children
> together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would
> not!
> 38: Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
> 39: For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall
> say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
> Jesus in Jn:8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
> your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
> not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
> he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com | 
08-19-2007, 01:49 PM
| | | Re: Laus Deo !
Pastor Frank wrote:
> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
> news:46C68FBA.79834441@netvigator.com...
> > Joe Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual
> >> spout
> >> of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
> >> scripture and of the termin
| | |