Re: Let's have an oldie shall we? Remember Chung being fired from his one and only job? Chung lied about that too

Perhaps Mu would share his thoughts on the contents of this little gem.
Thanks.

"Flying Rat Convict #42" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.206673fd6a4a8e6e9899e1@news.readfreenews. net...
> ubject: Your Website
> From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
> Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
> To: and...@heartmdphd.com
>
> Dr. Chung:
> Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
> reflect the views of CFHC.
>
> After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
> are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
> what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
> your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
> possible.
>
> Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
> border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
> features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
> fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
> only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
> seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
> of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
> past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
> outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
> good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
> realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
> dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
> more.
>
> Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
> on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
> I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
> catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
> work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
> except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
> continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
> do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
> an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
> that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?
>
> Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
> any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
> Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
> professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
> the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
> disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
> not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
> if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
> will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
> hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
> that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
> future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
> should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
> and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
> have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
> common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
> community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
> not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
> according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
> that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
> unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
> clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
> your colleagues.
>
> Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
> which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
> and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
> attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
> to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
> yourself out of it.
>
> Frank Hildner MD
> f...@orgren.org
>
>
> Taken from
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...dd89f72?hl=en&

My thoughts are as follows:

1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
2) They disagree, so what?
3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
5) As is the lack of common sense.
6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:18:16 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:

> Perhaps Mu would share his thoughts on the contents of this little gem.
> Thanks.
>
> "Flying Rat Convict #42" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.206673fd6a4a8e6e9899e1@news.readfreenews. net...
>> ubject: Your Website
>> From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
>> Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
>> To: and...@heartmdphd.com
>>
>> Dr. Chung:
>> Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
>> reflect the views of CFHC.
>>
>> After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
>> are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
>> what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
>> your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
>> possible.
>>
>> Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
>> border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
>> features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
>> fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
>> only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
>> seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
>> of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
>> past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
>> outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
>> good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
>> realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
>> dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
>> more.
>>
>> Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
>> on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
>> I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
>> catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
>> work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
>> except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
>> continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
>> do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
>> an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
>> that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?
>>
>> Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
>> any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
>> Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
>> professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
>> the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
>> disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
>> not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
>> if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
>> will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
>> hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
>> that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
>> future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
>> should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
>> and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
>> have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
>> common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
>> community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
>> not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
>> according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
>> that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
>> unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
>> clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
>> your colleagues.
>>
>> Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
>> which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
>> and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
>> attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
>> to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
>> yourself out of it.
>>
>> Frank Hildner MD
>> f...@orgren.org
>>
>>
>> Taken from
>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...dd89f72?hl=en&

brother Mu wrote:
> My thoughts are as follows:
>
> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
> 2) They disagree, so what?
> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
> 5) As is the lack of common sense.
> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.

It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.

Here are my comments about it:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

The Official SMC FAQ List:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth/FAQ

Mu <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote:

>My thoughts are as follows:
>
>1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
>2) They disagree, so what?
>3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
>now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
>4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>5) As is the lack of common sense.
>6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
>7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.

Yes, you are clueless. Chung himself posted it.
>
>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:18:16 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:
>
>> Perhaps Mu would share his thoughts on the contents of this little gem.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> "Flying Rat Convict #42" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.206673fd6a4a8e6e9899e1@news.readfreenews. net...
>>> ubject: Your Website
>>> From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
>>> Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
>>> To: and...@heartmdphd.com
>>>
>>> Dr. Chung:
>>> Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
>>> reflect the views of CFHC.
>>>
>>> After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
>>> are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
>>> what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
>>> your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
>>> border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
>>> features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
>>> fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
>>> only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
>>> seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
>>> of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
>>> past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
>>> outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
>>> good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
>>> realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
>>> dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
>>> on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
>>> I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
>>> catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
>>> work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
>>> except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
>>> continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
>>> do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
>>> an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
>>> that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?
>>>
>>> Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
>>> any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
>>> Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
>>> professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
>>> the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
>>> disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
>>> not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
>>> if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
>>> will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
>>> hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
>>> that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
>>> future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
>>> should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
>>> and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
>>> have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
>>> common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
>>> community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
>>> not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
>>> according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
>>> that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
>>> unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
>>> clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
>>> your colleagues.
>>>
>>> Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
>>> which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
>>> and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
>>> attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
>>> to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
>>> yourself out of it.
>>>
>>> Frank Hildner MD
>>> f...@orgren.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Taken from
>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...dd89f72?hl=en&

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco?
The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco."
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

On Apr 12, 8:45 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.

2PD of heavily used kitty litter.

On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> brother Mu wrote:
>> My thoughts are as follows:
>>
>> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
>> 2) They disagree, so what?
>> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
>> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
>> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>> 5) As is the lack of common sense.
>> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
>> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
>
> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.

Thanks, the authenticity is determined.

On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.

> Here are my comments about it:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
>
> May GOD bless you.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>
> Andrew <><

Corporate medicine at its "finest". I remember now our conversations
about th corporate medicine.

It was around the time we first met and I had gone to the Atlanta
Cardiology Group conglomerate. I was nearing 200 lbs and was having
continuing chest weirdness and got this friendly doctor who spent about
fifteen minutes with me ordering up tests, a treadmill was one, echo,
etc.. I don't necessarily think he was out of bounds with these tests.

I was uncomfortable with the whole situation since I was referred by a
physician who knew about my long standing success with training athletes
for max performance. Several relevant questions were ignored or treated
lightly.

Enter Usenet and that is where I found you.

Yes, I remember well the Ocala conversations.

On Apr 13, 7:22 am, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > brother Mu wrote:
> >> My thoughts are as follows:
>
> >> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
> >> 2) They disagree, so what?
> >> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
> >> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
> >> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
> >> 5) As is the lack of common sense.
> >> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
> >> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
>
> > It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> > that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>
> Thanks, the authenticity is determined.

As is the fact that Hildner was telling the truth, as everything he
says in that letter is in accordance with Chung's behaviour here in
Usenet, and his implicit psychological profile, which renders him
unemployable within a collaborative framework.

I'd call that "Bang to rights", and the fact that Chung doesn't see
that the letter demonstrates what almost all of us have discerned
about him, also demonstrates his serious personality disorder.

Unless you truly are a sock, Mu, and you certainly don't seem to be,
you will not evade Chung's "Convict" list forever.

brother Mu wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> > that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>
> > Here are my comments about it:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
>
> Corporate medicine at its "finest". I remember now our conversations
> about th corporate medicine.
>
> It was around the time we first met and I had gone to the Atlanta
> Cardiology Group conglomerate. I was nearing 200 lbs and was having
> continuing chest weirdness and got this friendly doctor who spent about
> fifteen minutes with me ordering up tests, a treadmill was one, echo,
> etc.. I don't necessarily think he was out of bounds with these tests.
>
> I was uncomfortable with the whole situation since I was referred by a
> physician who knew about my long standing success with training athletes
> for max performance. Several relevant questions were ignored or treated
> lightly.
>
> Enter Usenet and that is where I found you.
>
> Yes, I remember well the Ocala conversations.

Sadly, those who are of this world have rejected the truth, Who is
LORD Jesus Christ.

And, so they remain stricken:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b969d507ffa38?

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

The Official SMC FAQ List:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth/FAQ

On 13 Apr 2007 02:49:59 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<love13@thetruth.com> wrote:

>brother Mu wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
>> > that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>>
>> > Here are my comments about it:
>> >
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
>>
>> Corporate medicine at its "finest". I remember now our conversations
>> about th corporate medicine.
>>
>> It was around the time we first met and I had gone to the Atlanta
>> Cardiology Group conglomerate. I was nearing 200 lbs and was having
>> continuing chest weirdness and got this friendly doctor who spent about
>> fifteen minutes with me ordering up tests, a treadmill was one, echo,
>> etc.. I don't necessarily think he was out of bounds with these tests.
>>
>> I was uncomfortable with the whole situation since I was referred by a
>> physician who knew about my long standing success with training athletes
>> for max performance. Several relevant questions were ignored or treated
>> lightly.
>>
>> Enter Usenet and that is where I found you.
>>
>> Yes, I remember well the Ocala conversations.
>
>Sadly, those who are of this world have rejected the truth, Who is
>LORD Jesus Christ.

I think to prove your theory you should immediately begin smoking
several packs of cigarettes a day and eating anthrax sandwiches to
show us you don't get sick.

Jade

The Antichung <hugh.jarse@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

>On Apr 13, 7:22 am, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>> > brother Mu wrote:
>> >> My thoughts are as follows:
>>
>> >> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
>> >> 2) They disagree, so what?
>> >> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
>> >> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
>> >> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>> >> 5) As is the lack of common sense.
>> >> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
>> >> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
>>
>> > It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
>> > that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>>
>> Thanks, the authenticity is determined.

And thus showing your assertion that it was a forgery is laughable.
>
>As is the fact that Hildner was telling the truth, as everything he
>says in that letter is in accordance with Chung's behaviour here in
>Usenet, and his implicit psychological profile, which renders him
>unemployable within a collaborative framework.
>
>I'd call that "Bang to rights", and the fact that Chung doesn't see
>that the letter demonstrates what almost all of us have discerned
>about him, also demonstrates his serious personality disorder.
>
>Unless you truly are a sock, Mu, and you certainly don't seem to be,
>you will not evade Chung's "Convict" list forever.

His dedication to slurping Chung is so profound that it is possible he
will never make it onto the Chunk list of hate.

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco?
The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco."
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

Mu <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
>> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>
>> Here are my comments about it:
>>
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
>>
>> May GOD bless you.
>>
>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>
>> Andrew <><
>
>Corporate medicine at its "finest". I remember now our conversations
>about th corporate medicine.
>
>It was around the time we first met and I had gone to the Atlanta
>Cardiology Group conglomerate. I was nearing 200 lbs and was having
>continuing chest weirdness and got this friendly doctor who spent about
>fifteen minutes with me ordering up tests, a treadmill was one, echo,
>etc.. I don't necessarily think he was out of bounds with these tests.
>
>I was uncomfortable with the whole situation since I was referred by a
>physician who knew about my long standing success with training athletes
>for max performance. Several relevant questions were ignored or treated
>lightly.
>
>Enter Usenet and that is where I found you.
>
>Yes, I remember well the Ocala conversations.

Do you also keep your "athletes" hungry?

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco?
The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco."
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:wc9bjcgz6v5m$.161k3ifsfcgun.dlg@40tude.net...
> My thoughts are as follows:
>
> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.

The fact that you find the contents of the letter, unfortunately, made you
question its authenticity.

> 2) They disagree, so what?

The disagreement cost him his job - that's what! A disagreement on usenet,
does not.

> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.

Antics that work on usenet do not work in real life. The fact remains that
Chung

> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.

So you are accusing the author of the letter a liar?

> 5) As is the lack of common sense.

"Any reasonable person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it
is you that is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala."

Sounds like common sense to me.

> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally

It would appear that this trait of Chung remains ingrained in his activities
on usenet too.

> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.

The letter was dated 2001. Unfortunately Dr Hildner's wise words and
advice were not heeded. Chung has failed in life and he has only himself to
blame. Disagreeing with other folks on usenet is all he has got left going.
Sad.


> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:18:16 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:
>
>> Perhaps Mu would share his thoughts on the contents of this little gem.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> "Flying Rat Convict #42" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.206673fd6a4a8e6e9899e1@news.readfreenews. net...
>>> ubject: Your Website
>>> From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
>>> Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
>>> To: and...@heartmdphd.com
>>>
>>> Dr. Chung:
>>> Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
>>> reflect the views of CFHC.
>>>
>>> After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
>>> are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
>>> what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
>>> your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
>>> border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
>>> features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
>>> fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
>>> only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
>>> seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
>>> of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
>>> past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
>>> outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
>>> good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
>>> realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
>>> dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
>>> on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
>>> I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
>>> catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
>>> work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
>>> except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
>>> continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
>>> do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
>>> an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
>>> that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?
>>>
>>> Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
>>> any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
>>> Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
>>> professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
>>> the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
>>> disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
>>> not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
>>> if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
>>> will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
>>> hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
>>> that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
>>> future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
>>> should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
>>> and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
>>> have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
>>> common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
>>> community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
>>> not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
>>> according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
>>> that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
>>> unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
>>> clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
>>> your colleagues.
>>>
>>> Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
>>> which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
>>> and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
>>> attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
>>> to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
>>> yourself out of it.
>>>
>>> Frank Hildner MD
>>> f...@orgren.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Taken from
>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...dd89f72?hl=en&
>

convicted neighbor Daedalus (Jade) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >brother Mu wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> >> > that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
> >>
> >> > Here are my comments about it:
> >> >
> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
> >>
> >> Corporate medicine at its "finest". I remember now our conversations
> >> about th corporate medicine.
> >>
> >> It was around the time we first met and I had gone to the Atlanta
> >> Cardiology Group conglomerate. I was nearing 200 lbs and was having
> >> continuing chest weirdness and got this friendly doctor who spent about
> >> fifteen minutes with me ordering up tests, a treadmill was one, echo,
> >> etc.. I don't necessarily think he was out of bounds with these tests.
> >>
> >> I was uncomfortable with the whole situation since I was referred by a
> >> physician who knew about my long standing success with training athletes
> >> for max performance. Several relevant questions were ignored or treated
> >> lightly.
> >>
> >> Enter Usenet and that is where I found you.
> >>
> >> Yes, I remember well the Ocala conversations.
> >
> >Sadly, those who are of this world have rejected the truth, Who is
> >LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> I think to prove your theory

This would be an observation and not a theory.

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

The Official SMC FAQ List:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth/FAQ

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <achung@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1176425126.448881.85030@y80g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...

> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>
> Here are my comments about it:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank

Dr Hildner stated 6 years ago: "Also, I believe what I do say will probably
be twisted or interpreted by you to suit your purposes. "
Source
(<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f72?hl=en>)

Dr Hildner was right then, and is right now.

Any regrets?

On 13 Apr 2007 02:12:23 -0700, The Antichung wrote:

> On Apr 13, 7:22 am, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> brother Mu wrote:
>>>> My thoughts are as follows:
>>
>>>> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
>>>> 2) They disagree, so what?
>>>> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
>>>> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
>>>> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>>>> 5) As is the lack of common sense.
>>>> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
>>>> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
>>
>>> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
>>> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>>
>> Thanks, the authenticity is determined.
>
> As is the fact that Hildner was telling the truth,

Nope just that the letter was authentic, the rest is your extrapolation
from one fact, authenticity.

> as everything he
> says in that letter is in accordance with Chung's behaviour here in
> Usenet, and his implicit psychological profile, which renders him
> unemployable within a collaborative framework.

And 1 and 1 make 3.

> I'd call that "Bang to rights", and the fact that Chung doesn't see
> that the letter demonstrates what almost all of us have discerned
> about him, also demonstrates his serious personality disorder.

All that from a letter which I have already pointed out was packed with
lies and innuendos lacking Truth.

> Unless you truly are a sock, Mu, and you certainly don't seem to be,
> you will not evade Chung's "Convict" list forever.

I'm not concerned about Chung's convict list, it means nothing to me if
I am on it or not.

Mu <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 13 Apr 2007 02:12:23 -0700, The Antichung wrote:
>
>> On Apr 13, 7:22 am, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 12 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>
>>>> brother Mu wrote:
>>>>> My thoughts are as follows:
>>>
>>>>> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
>>>>> 2) They disagree, so what?
>>>>> 3) I have heard Chung's side of the so-called "story" and he is doing
>>>>> now what he wants to do and wanted to do then.
>>>>> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>>>>> 5) As is the lack of common sense.
>>>>> 6) As is the lack of being able to operate professionally
>>>>> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
>>>
>>>> It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
>>>> that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>>>
>>> Thanks, the authenticity is determined.
>>
>> As is the fact that Hildner was telling the truth,
>
>Nope just that the letter was authentic, the rest is your extrapolation
>from one fact, authenticity.
>
>> as everything he
>> says in that letter is in accordance with Chung's behaviour here in
>> Usenet, and his implicit psychological profile, which renders him
>> unemployable within a collaborative framework.
>
>And 1 and 1 make 3.
>
>> I'd call that "Bang to rights", and the fact that Chung doesn't see
>> that the letter demonstrates what almost all of us have discerned
>> about him, also demonstrates his serious personality disorder.
>
>All that from a letter which I have already pointed out was packed with
>lies and innuendos lacking Truth.
>
>> Unless you truly are a sock, Mu, and you certainly don't seem to be,
>> you will not evade Chung's "Convict" list forever.
>
>I'm not concerned about Chung's convict list, it means nothing to me if
>I am on it or not.

Look like you'd better plonk him now, coward.

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco?
The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco."
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:05:10 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:

> "Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wc9bjcgz6v5m$.161k3ifsfcgun.dlg@40tude.net...
>> My thoughts are as follows:
>>
>> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
>
> The fact that you find the contents of the letter, unfortunately, made you
> question its authenticity.
>
>> 2) They disagree, so what?
>
> The disagreement cost him his job - that's what!

So?

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:05:10 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:

>> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>
> So you are accusing the author of the letter a liar?

Fully.

>> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:05:10 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:

> The letter was dated 2001. Unfortunately Dr Hildner's wise words and
> advice were not heeded. Chung has failed in life and he has only himself to
> blame. Disagreeing with other folks on usenet is all he has got left going.
> Sad.

Failed in life has Chung. Maybe he has but you are nothing more than a
kiddie playing with my time and I will have no more of you.

*plonk*

brother Mu wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote:
> > brother Mu wrote:
>
> >> My thoughts are as follows:
> >>
> >> 1)I have no idea if this is authentic or not.
> >
> > The fact that you find the contents of the letter, unfortunately, made you
> > question its authenticity.
> >
> >> 2) They disagree, so what?
> >
> > The disagreement cost him his job - that's what!
>
> So?

Suggested reading:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank

Suggested viewing:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than you have
ever been in your life.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

The Official SMC FAQ List:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth/FAQ

"Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6r1srurpax6z.1bb3wtvp2hp7f$.dlg@40tude.net...


>>> 2) They disagree, so what?
>>
>> The disagreement cost him his job - that's what!
>
> So?

Huh? The bugger had to flee the state of Florida squealing and howling. LOL

>>> 4) The part about the "calling on physicians" is a lie.
>>
>> So you are accusing the author of the letter a liar?
>
> Fully.

Well that would only make 2 of you that think it is a lie. The rest of us
"Fully" agree with the wise characterization of Chung by Dr Hildner.

>> The letter was dated 2001. Unfortunately Dr Hildner's wise words and
>> advice were not heeded. Chung has failed in life and he has only himself
>> to
>> blame. Disagreeing with other folks on usenet is all he has got left
>> going.
>> Sad.
>
> Failed in life has Chung. Maybe he has.

Thank you for confirming that Chung is a Loser.

> *plonk*

Why am I not surprised. I knew it was getting difficult for you. Chung
fled Florida when the going got tough, and you claim to plonk people when
you lose an argument, to save face. Much in common, I'd say.

convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > It was an actual posting from Dr. Frank Hildner (may GOD bless him)
> > that he made on the HeartMDPhD.com web site.
>
> 2PD of heavily used kitty litter.

That is one way to characterize what Dr. Hildner wrote.

Here is another way:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank

Suggested reading:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/FR

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Diabetes

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Mu <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
>
>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:05:10 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:
>
>> The letter was dated 2001. Unfortunately Dr Hildner's wise words and
>> advice were not heeded. Chung has failed in life and he has only himself to
>> blame. Disagreeing with other folks on usenet is all he has got left going.
>> Sad.
>
>Failed in life has Chung. Maybe he has but you are nothing more than a
>kiddie playing with my time and I will have no more of you.
>
>*plonk*

Wow, that has to be a record number of replies before the dreaded
muplonk goes down and he runs away.

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco?
The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco."
-- Dr. David Tholen

"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

In article <140420070855253706%erfc@caballista.org>,
Art Deco <erfc@caballista.org> wrote:

> Mu <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> 7) As is.....look, authentic or not, I stopped at Lie 3.
> >
> >On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:05:10 +0100, Epinephrine wrote:
> >
> >> The letter was dated 2001. Unfortunately Dr Hildner's wise words and
> >> advice were not heeded. Chung has failed in life and he has only himself
> >> to
> >> blame. Disagreeing with other folks on usenet is all he has got left
> >> going.
> >> Sad.
> >
> >Failed in life has Chung. Maybe he has but you are nothing more than a
> >kiddie playing with my time and I will have no more of you.
> >
> >*plonk*
>
> Wow, that has to be a record number of replies before the dreaded
> muplonk goes down and he runs away.


The mental image is of someone with their fingers in their ears going
"LALALALLALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALLALALLALALLA"

--
Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting.
Got proof? Not yet, still waiting.

Hail Eris! On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:00:52 -0700, Eris Kallisti Discordia
was laughing at the antics of Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD, when they
suddenly burst out in tears:
> convicted neighbor Daedalus (Jade) wrote:

Liar! She's nowhere on your lits of "Convicts".

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >brother Mu wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
&