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Old 11-10-2006, 11:07 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Such survey studies have been notorious for past fallacious
"suggestions" that convinced people to take high dose vitamin E to
their detriment.

Simply a few words to the wise:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?

And a few words to the overweight:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

diarmidlogan@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2164981.shtml
>
> Critics of low-carbohydrate diets claim that they promote heart
> disease, but one of the first studies to examine the long-term effects
> of low-carb eating suggests otherwise.
>
> Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health found no evidence
> of an association between low-carbohydrate diets and increased
> cardiovascular risk, even when these diets were high in saturated
> animal fats.
>
> Low-carb eating even seemed to be protective against heart disease when
> vegetables were the main sources of fat and protein in the diet.
>
> The study, which appears tomorrow in the New England Journal of
> Medicine, included almost 83,000 female nurses in the Nurses' Health
> Study who provided detailed information about their eating patterns
> once per year for more than 20 years. The nurses were not asked to
> follow any particular diets.
>
> A clear message from the research was that extreme diets, which
> severely restrict either fats or carbohydrates, are not the best
> choices for cardiovascular disease prevention, researcher Thomas L.
> Halton, Sc.D., tells WebMD.
>
> "Neither a very low-fat diet or a very low-carbohydrate diet proved to
> be ideal," he says. "There were pros and cons to both of these diets."
>
> Low-fat diets are by definition low in saturated fats, which is good
> for the heart, Halton says. But they also tend to be higher in refined
> carbohydrates like sugar and white flour, which spike blood sugar
> levels.
>
> "Americans tend to pick the wrong carbohydrates," he says. "So the
> benefits of eating lower amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol are
> offset to some degree by the poor quality of the carbohydrates they
> eat."
>
> The most protective diet, in terms of heart disease risk, was a
> low-carbohydrate that was also low in saturated fats and cholesterol
> where vegetables were the main sources of fats and protein. "The
> vegetable-based low-carbohydrate diet combined the best features of
> low-fat and low-carbohydrate eating," Halton says. Following this diet
> was associated with a 30 percent reduction in heart disease risk over
> 20 years.
>
> "The quality of fat and carbohydrate is more important than the
> quantity," says study researcher Frank Hu, M.D., Ph.D. "A heart-healthy
> diet should embrace healthy types of fat and carbohydrates."
>
> Hu was talking about carbohydrates that are slow to convert to sugar,
> or so-called low-glycemic-load foods.
>
> Most fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and nuts have low glycemic
> loads. Refined white flour and sugar, as well as white rice and
> potatoes, have high glycemic loads.
>
> Women in the study whose diets had the highest glycemic loads had a 90
> percent increased risk of developing heart disease during the 20 years
> of follow-up, compared with women whose diets had the lowest glycemic
> loads.
>
> "This is just one study, but the findings suggest that eating a
> high-glycemic-load diet may be even more harmful than eating a diet
> that is high in saturated fat and cholesterol," Halton says.
>
> Frank Sacks, M.D., also studies diet and heart disease risk at the
> Harvard School of Public Health, but he was not involved with the study
> by Halton and colleagues. His research also suggests that following a
> strictly low-fat diet is less protective against heart disease than
> following a diet that includes fat from vegetable sources like olive
> and canola oil.
>
> He is currently assessing the cardiovascular risks and benefits of some
> of the most widely promoted commercial diets, including Atkins, the
> South Beach Diet, and the Zone.
>
> "One problem with very restrictive diets is that people don't stay on
> them very long," he says. "It doesn't matter how good they are or how
> protective they are if people don't follow them."
>
>
> SOURCES: Halton, T.L. The New England Journal of Medicine, Nov. 9,
> 2006; Vol, 355: pp. 1991-2002. Thomas L. Halton, Sc.D., department of
> nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston. Frank M. Sacks,
> M.D., professor of cardiovascular disease prevention, Harvard School of
> Public Health, Boston.
>
> By Salynn Boyles
> Reviewed by Louise Chang, M.D.
> Copyright 2006, WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
>
> http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6212
>
> http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6206


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Old 11-10-2006, 11:07 PM
TC
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Who the hell asked you? You board certified quack.

TC

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Such survey studies have been notorious for past fallacious
> "suggestions" that convinced people to take high dose vitamin E to
> their detriment.
>
> Simply a few words to the wise:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
>
> And a few words to the overweight:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
>
> diarmidlogan@gmail.com wrote:
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2164981.shtml
> >
> > Critics of low-carbohydrate diets claim that they promote heart
> > disease, but one of the first studies to examine the long-term effects
> > of low-carb eating suggests otherwise.
> >
> > Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health found no evidence
> > of an association between low-carbohydrate diets and increased
> > cardiovascular risk, even when these diets were high in saturated
> > animal fats.
> >
> > Low-carb eating even seemed to be protective against heart disease when
> > vegetables were the main sources of fat and protein in the diet.
> >
> > The study, which appears tomorrow in the New England Journal of
> > Medicine, included almost 83,000 female nurses in the Nurses' Health
> > Study who provided detailed information about their eating patterns
> > once per year for more than 20 years. The nurses were not asked to
> > follow any particular diets.
> >
> > A clear message from the research was that extreme diets, which
> > severely restrict either fats or carbohydrates, are not the best
> > choices for cardiovascular disease prevention, researcher Thomas L.
> > Halton, Sc.D., tells WebMD.
> >
> > "Neither a very low-fat diet or a very low-carbohydrate diet proved to
> > be ideal," he says. "There were pros and cons to both of these diets."
> >
> > Low-fat diets are by definition low in saturated fats, which is good
> > for the heart, Halton says. But they also tend to be higher in refined
> > carbohydrates like sugar and white flour, which spike blood sugar
> > levels.
> >
> > "Americans tend to pick the wrong carbohydrates," he says. "So the
> > benefits of eating lower amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol are
> > offset to some degree by the poor quality of the carbohydrates they
> > eat."
> >
> > The most protective diet, in terms of heart disease risk, was a
> > low-carbohydrate that was also low in saturated fats and cholesterol
> > where vegetables were the main sources of fats and protein. "The
> > vegetable-based low-carbohydrate diet combined the best features of
> > low-fat and low-carbohydrate eating," Halton says. Following this diet
> > was associated with a 30 percent reduction in heart disease risk over
> > 20 years.
> >
> > "The quality of fat and carbohydrate is more important than the
> > quantity," says study researcher Frank Hu, M.D., Ph.D. "A heart-healthy
> > diet should embrace healthy types of fat and carbohydrates."
> >
> > Hu was talking about carbohydrates that are slow to convert to sugar,
> > or so-called low-glycemic-load foods.
> >
> > Most fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and nuts have low glycemic
> > loads. Refined white flour and sugar, as well as white rice and
> > potatoes, have high glycemic loads.
> >
> > Women in the study whose diets had the highest glycemic loads had a 90
> > percent increased risk of developing heart disease during the 20 years
> > of follow-up, compared with women whose diets had the lowest glycemic
> > loads.
> >
> > "This is just one study, but the findings suggest that eating a
> > high-glycemic-load diet may be even more harmful than eating a diet
> > that is high in saturated fat and cholesterol," Halton says.
> >
> > Frank Sacks, M.D., also studies diet and heart disease risk at the
> > Harvard School of Public Health, but he was not involved with the study
> > by Halton and colleagues. His research also suggests that following a
> > strictly low-fat diet is less protective against heart disease than
> > following a diet that includes fat from vegetable sources like olive
> > and canola oil.
> >
> > He is currently assessing the cardiovascular risks and benefits of some
> > of the most widely promoted commercial diets, including Atkins, the
> > South Beach Diet, and the Zone.
> >
> > "One problem with very restrictive diets is that people don't stay on
> > them very long," he says. "It doesn't matter how good they are or how
> > protective they are if people don't follow them."
> >
> >
> > SOURCES: Halton, T.L. The New England Journal of Medicine, Nov. 9,
> > 2006; Vol, 355: pp. 1991-2002. Thomas L. Halton, Sc.D., department of
> > nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston. Frank M. Sacks,
> > M.D., professor of cardiovascular disease prevention, Harvard School of
> > Public Health, Boston.
> >
> > By Salynn Boyles
> > Reviewed by Louise Chang, M.D.
> > Copyright 2006, WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
> >
> > http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6212
> >
> > http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6206


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Old 11-10-2006, 11:07 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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TC wrote:
> Who the hell asked you?


Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.

> You board certified quack.


Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to curse
HIM), dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

> TC
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Such survey studies have been notorious for past fallacious
> > "suggestions" that convinced people to take high dose vitamin E to
> > their detriment.
> >
> > Simply a few words to the wise:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...546a7bf4a81ee?
> >
> > And a few words to the overweight:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> > Andrew <><
> > --
> > Andrew B. Chung
> > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> >
> > As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> > unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
> >
> > diarmidlogan@gmail.com wrote:
> > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2164981.shtml
> > >
> > > Critics of low-carbohydrate diets claim that they promote heart
> > > disease, but one of the first studies to examine the long-term effects
> > > of low-carb eating suggests otherwise.
> > >
> > > Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health found no evidence
> > > of an association between low-carbohydrate diets and increased
> > > cardiovascular risk, even when these diets were high in saturated
> > > animal fats.
> > >
> > > Low-carb eating even seemed to be protective against heart disease when
> > > vegetables were the main sources of fat and protein in the diet.
> > >
> > > The study, which appears tomorrow in the New England Journal of
> > > Medicine, included almost 83,000 female nurses in the Nurses' Health
> > > Study who provided detailed information about their eating patterns
> > > once per year for more than 20 years. The nurses were not asked to
> > > follow any particular diets.
> > >
> > > A clear message from the research was that extreme diets, which
> > > severely restrict either fats or carbohydrates, are not the best
> > > choices for cardiovascular disease prevention, researcher Thomas L.
> > > Halton, Sc.D., tells WebMD.
> > >
> > > "Neither a very low-fat diet or a very low-carbohydrate diet proved to
> > > be ideal," he says. "There were pros and cons to both of these diets."
> > >
> > > Low-fat diets are by definition low in saturated fats, which is good
> > > for the heart, Halton says. But they also tend to be higher in refined
> > > carbohydrates like sugar and white flour, which spike blood sugar
> > > levels.
> > >
> > > "Americans tend to pick the wrong carbohydrates," he says. "So the
> > > benefits of eating lower amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol are
> > > offset to some degree by the poor quality of the carbohydrates they
> > > eat."
> > >
> > > The most protective diet, in terms of heart disease risk, was a
> > > low-carbohydrate that was also low in saturated fats and cholesterol
> > > where vegetables were the main sources of fats and protein. "The
> > > vegetable-based low-carbohydrate diet combined the best features of
> > > low-fat and low-carbohydrate eating," Halton says. Following this diet
> > > was associated with a 30 percent reduction in heart disease risk over
> > > 20 years.
> > >
> > > "The quality of fat and carbohydrate is more important than the
> > > quantity," says study researcher Frank Hu, M.D., Ph.D. "A heart-healthy
> > > diet should embrace healthy types of fat and carbohydrates."
> > >
> > > Hu was talking about carbohydrates that are slow to convert to sugar,
> > > or so-called low-glycemic-load foods.
> > >
> > > Most fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and nuts have low glycemic
> > > loads. Refined white flour and sugar, as well as white rice and
> > > potatoes, have high glycemic loads.
> > >
> > > Women in the study whose diets had the highest glycemic loads had a 90
> > > percent increased risk of developing heart disease during the 20 years
> > > of follow-up, compared with women whose diets had the lowest glycemic
> > > loads.
> > >
> > > "This is just one study, but the findings suggest that eating a
> > > high-glycemic-load diet may be even more harmful than eating a diet
> > > that is high in saturated fat and cholesterol," Halton says.
> > >
> > > Frank Sacks, M.D., also studies diet and heart disease risk at the
> > > Harvard School of Public Health, but he was not involved with the study
> > > by Halton and colleagues. His research also suggests that following a
> > > strictly low-fat diet is less protective against heart disease than
> > > following a diet that includes fat from vegetable sources like olive
> > > and canola oil.
> > >
> > > He is currently assessing the cardiovascular risks and benefits of some
> > > of the most widely promoted commercial diets, including Atkins, the
> > > South Beach Diet, and the Zone.
> > >
> > > "One problem with very restrictive diets is that people don't stay on
> > > them very long," he says. "It doesn't matter how good they are or how
> > > protective they are if people don't follow them."
> > >
> > >
> > > SOURCES: Halton, T.L. The New England Journal of Medicine, Nov. 9,
> > > 2006; Vol, 355: pp. 1991-2002. Thomas L. Halton, Sc.D., department of
> > > nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston. Frank M. Sacks,
> > > M.D., professor of cardiovascular disease prevention, Harvard School of
> > > Public Health, Boston.
> > >
> > > By Salynn Boyles
> > > Reviewed by Louise Chang, M.D.
> > > Copyright 2006, WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
> > >
> > > http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6212
> > >
> > > http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6206


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