Re: Trusting in ceremoines and free will to save opposes grace...

It is ultimately up to GOD whether a person's free will choice to place
his/her faith in LORD Jesus Christ results in the redemption of all
his/her sins so that there is a rebirth in living water and the Holy
Spirit creating a new creature that worships GOD in truth and in
spirit.

HIS will be done and not our will.

On the other hand, the free will choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit
brings about eternal condemnation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...279ece5fbd098?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...f5d417baf496d?

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Joe whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love


old man joe wrote:
> as rightly stated in the Westminster Confession of Faith, fallen in
> Adam, man is in a state of sin, wholly incapable of doing anything
> pleasing to God to merit salvation, including salvation through
> ceremonies and will worship :
>
>
> " Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability
> of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation
> ( Joh.15:5; Rom. 5:6; Rom.8:7 ) :
>
> so as, a natural man, being altogether averse from that good
> ( Rom.3:10; Rom.3:12 ), and dead in sin
> ( Eph.2:1; Eph. 2:5; Col. 2:13 ),
>
> is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare
> himself thereunto ( Joh.6:44; Joh. 6:65; 1Co.2:14; Eph. 2:2-5;
> Tit. 3:3-5 ). "
>
> ******************************************
>
> giving God the glory is completely contrary to unregenerate man
> and is therefore seen by God as deserving of the wrath of God.
> ( Ro. 1:18-32 )... man therefore does not believe unto salvation
> because he wanted to. Joh. 8:44
>
> it is by His doing that anyone is in Christ ( 1 Cor. 1:30 ) and that
> man believes unto salvation comes from God alone ( Mt. 19:25,26
> Joh. 3:3, Joh. 6:44, Joh. 6:29, Acts 13:48, Eph. 1:3-12 ) without
> human assistance in any way. ( Eph. 2:1-9 ) " lest man should boast "
> v.9
>
> " Blessed is the one whom You choose, and cause to come near You. He
> shall dwell in Your courts " Ps. 65:4
>
> " where then is the boasting ?... it is excluded " Ro. 3:27,28
>
> *********************************************
>
> man is saved " by the faith of Jesus " ( Ro. 3:22-28, Gal. 3:22 )
> and not by " the will of man " Joh. 1:12,13
>
> for such is to heap the glory for the doing on man and not Christ.
>
> will worship as a means to salvation as well as ceremony as a means
> to salvation is part of the Simon Magus cult of Acts 8:9-24 which
> Scripture and history apart from Scripture, attribute to sorcery.
>
> Simon Magus is labeled by Scripture and Christian history as the
> first heretic... his cult can be seen as the progenitors of
> Arminianism and Catholicism... both have developed a gospel of will
> worship and ceremony as the means to salvation.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Magnus
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
>
>
> those who are saved by grace are those who were appointed to believe
> unto eternal life. ( Acts 13:48 ) these alone are freed from sin
> ( Mt.1:21) and therefore from a pure heart bring the praise of the
> lips to God Most High for salvation ( Isa. 57:15-21) which He provides
> by Sovereign grace alone, ( Eph. 2:8,9 ) He being the Author and
> Perfecter of the faith ( Heb.12:2 ) He graced upon the elect.
> Eph. 1:3-14

Oh fuck off you judgemental wanker.
- Blue.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD ha escrito:

> It is ultimately up to GOD whether a person's free will choice to place
> his/her faith in LORD Jesus Christ results in the redemption of all
> his/her sins so that there is a rebirth in living water and the Holy
> Spirit creating a new creature that worships GOD in truth and in
> spirit.
>
> HIS will be done and not our will.
>
> On the other hand, the free will choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit
> brings about eternal condemnation:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...279ece5fbd098?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...f5d417baf496d?
>
> May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
> diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our
> neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
> Joe whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
>
>
> old man joe wrote:
> > as rightly stated in the Westminster Confession of Faith, fallen in
> > Adam, man is in a state of sin, wholly incapable of doing anything
> > pleasing to God to merit salvation, including salvation through
> > ceremonies and will worship :
> >
> >
> > " Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability
> > of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation
> > ( Joh.15:5; Rom. 5:6; Rom.8:7 ) :
> >
> > so as, a natural man, being altogether averse from that good
> > ( Rom.3:10; Rom.3:12 ), and dead in sin
> > ( Eph.2:1; Eph. 2:5; Col. 2:13 ),
> >
> > is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare
> > himself thereunto ( Joh.6:44; Joh. 6:65; 1Co.2:14; Eph. 2:2-5;
> > Tit. 3:3-5 ). "
> >
> > ******************************************
> >
> > giving God the glory is completely contrary to unregenerate man
> > and is therefore seen by God as deserving of the wrath of God.
> > ( Ro. 1:18-32 )... man therefore does not believe unto salvation
> > because he wanted to. Joh. 8:44
> >
> > it is by His doing that anyone is in Christ ( 1 Cor. 1:30 ) and that
> > man believes unto salvation comes from God alone ( Mt. 19:25,26
> > Joh. 3:3, Joh. 6:44, Joh. 6:29, Acts 13:48, Eph. 1:3-12 ) without
> > human assistance in any way. ( Eph. 2:1-9 ) " lest man should boast "
> > v.9
> >
> > " Blessed is the one whom You choose, and cause to come near You. He
> > shall dwell in Your courts " Ps. 65:4
> >
> > " where then is the boasting ?... it is excluded " Ro. 3:27,28
> >
> > *********************************************
> >
> > man is saved " by the faith of Jesus " ( Ro. 3:22-28, Gal. 3:22 )
> > and not by " the will of man " Joh. 1:12,13
> >
> > for such is to heap the glory for the doing on man and not Christ.
> >
> > will worship as a means to salvation as well as ceremony as a means
> > to salvation is part of the Simon Magus cult of Acts 8:9-24 which
> > Scripture and history apart from Scripture, attribute to sorcery.
> >
> > Simon Magus is labeled by Scripture and Christian history as the
> > first heretic... his cult can be seen as the progenitors of
> > Arminianism and Catholicism... both have developed a gospel of will
> > worship and ceremony as the means to salvation.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Magnus
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
> >
> >
> > those who are saved by grace are those who were appointed to believe
> > unto eternal life. ( Acts 13:48 ) these alone are freed from sin
> > ( Mt.1:21) and therefore from a pure heart bring the praise of the
> > lips to God Most High for salvation ( Isa. 57:15-21) which He provides
> > by Sovereign grace alone, ( Eph. 2:8,9 ) He being the Author and
> > Perfecter of the faith ( Heb.12:2 ) He graced upon the elect.
> > Eph. 1:3-14

"Andrew B. Chung666, MD/PhD" <love-satan666@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1165587917.237010.85500@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> It is ultimately up to SATAN whether a person's free will choice to place
> his/her faith in LORD Jesus Christ results in the redemption of all
> his/her sins so that there is a rebirth in living water and the Holy
> Spirit creating a new creature that worships SATAN in truth and in
> spirit.
>
> HIS will be done and not our will.
>
> On the other hand, the free will choice to blaspheme the Holy SATAN
> brings about eternal condemnation:
>
> http://groups.google.SATAN .med.cardiology/msg/16c279ece5fbd098?
>
> http://groups.google.com/SATAN .med.cardiology/msg/66cf5d417baf496d?
>
> May SATAN continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
> diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our
> neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
> Joe whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://SATAN com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://SATAN /Love
>
>
> old man joe wrote:
>> as rightly stated in the Westminster Confession of Faith, fallen in
>> Adam, man is in a state of sin, wholly incapable of doing anything
>> pleasing to God to merit salvation, including salvation through
>> ceremonies and will worship :
>>
>>
>> " Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability
>> of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation
>> ( Joh.15:5; Rom. 5:6; Rom.8:7 ) :
>>
>> so as, a natural man, being altogether averse from that good
>> ( Rom.3:10; Rom.3:12 ), and dead in sin
>> ( Eph.2:1; Eph. 2:5; Col. 2:13 ),
>>
>> is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare
>> himself thereunto ( Joh.6:44; Joh. 6:65; 1Co.2:14; Eph. 2:2-5;
>> Tit. 3:3-5 ). "
>>
>> ******************************************
>>
>> giving God the glory is completely contrary to unregenerate man
>> and is therefore seen by God as deserving of the wrath of God.
>> ( Ro. 1:18-32 )... man therefore does not believe unto salvation
>> because he wanted to. Joh. 8:44
>>
>> it is by His doing that anyone is in Christ ( 1 Cor. 1:30 ) and that
>> man believes unto salvation comes from God alone ( Mt. 19:25,26
>> Joh. 3:3, Joh. 6:44, Joh. 6:29, Acts 13:48, Eph. 1:3-12 ) without
>> human assistance in any way. ( Eph. 2:1-9 ) " lest man should boast "
>> v.9
>>
>> " Blessed is the one whom You choose, and cause to come near You. He
>> shall dwell in Your courts " Ps. 65:4
>>
>> " where then is the boasting ?... it is excluded " Ro. 3:27,28
>>
>> *********************************************
>>
>> man is saved " by the faith of Jesus " ( Ro. 3:22-28, Gal. 3:22 )
>> and not by " the will of man " Joh. 1:12,13
>>
>> for such is to heap the glory for the doing on man and not Christ.
>>
>> will worship as a means to salvation as well as ceremony as a means
>> to salvation is part of the Simon Magus cult of Acts 8:9-24 which
>> Scripture and history apart from Scripture, attribute to sorcery.
>>
>> Simon Magus is labeled by Scripture and Christian history as the
>> first heretic... his cult can be seen as the progenitors of
>> Arminianism and Catholicism... both have developed a gospel of will
>> worship and ceremony as the means to salvation.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Magnus
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
>>
>>
>> those who are saved by grace are those who were appointed to believe
>> unto eternal life. ( Acts 13:48 ) these alone are freed from sin
>> ( Mt.1:21) and therefore from a pure heart bring the praise of the
>> lips to God Most High for salvation ( Isa. 57:15-21) which He provides
>> by Sovereign grace alone, ( Eph. 2:8,9 ) He being the Author and
>> Perfecter of the faith ( Heb.12:2 ) He graced upon the elect.
>> Eph. 1:3-14
>

On 8 Dec 2006 06:30:24 -0800, while bungee jumping,
huw_coxon@yahoo.co.uk shouted thusly:


>Oh fuck off you judgemental wanker.
>- Blue.

And that of course, was not a judgmental statement
on your part.

Bye now.

--

Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"

<((>< <((>< <((><

"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
..

"Some kinda flower" <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 8 Dec 2006 06:30:24 -0800, while bungee jumping,
> huw_coxon@yahoo.co.uk shouted thusly:
>
>
> >Oh fuck off you judgemental wanker.
> >- Blue.
>
> And that of course, was not a judgmental statement
> on your part.

Written on the wall at Mike & Molly's - "Judge not Lester lest Lester
judge thee."

> Bye now.

Can't you make it longer?

> Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo)

What, you're claiming to pronounce it like that? Loony.

> "Jah has reserved"

Only enough seats for 144,000 assholes?

> "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
> - John 17:17

And you believe this tripe. If any books ought to be burned, it
should be any that say shit like this in them.

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
news:Wkfeh.8820$1s6.2098@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...

You said a mouthful there.....