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Old 08-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> with diabetes2:-
>
> "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> Implications of fat mass expansion..
> A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> Adipose macrophages
> VAT Versus SCAT....
>
>
> VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT
>
> Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...ticle&sid=2302
> "
>
> How can you comment on it?


VAT is bad.

VAT is completely pathological.

Truly, it is only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing)
that our bodies get rid of the VAT that is hurting us.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Kumar
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On Aug 26, 1:27 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
>
> > Hello,

>
> > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > with diabetes2:-

>
> > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > Adipose macrophages
> > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > "

>
> > How can you comment on it?

>
> VAT is bad.
>
> VAT is completely pathological.

Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?
> Truly, it is only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing)
> that our bodies get rid of the VAT that is hurting us.
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



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Old 08-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,

> >
> > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > with diabetes2:-

> >
> > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > Adipose macrophages
> > > VAT Versus SCAT....

> >
> > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

> >
> > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > "

> >
> > > How can you comment on it?

> >
> > VAT is bad.
> >
> > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?


Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

> > Truly, it is only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing)
> > that our bodies get rid of the VAT that is hurting us.
> >
> > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
> >
> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease


Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Kumar
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On Aug 26, 4:52 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

>
> > > > Hello,

>
> > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > with diabetes2:-

>
> > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > "

>
> > > > How can you comment on it?

>
> > > VAT is bad.

>
> > > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

>
> Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.



'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

Adiponectin
Resistin
Angiotensin
Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
TNF
IL-6
Leptin
Estradiol (E2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissue x'

What does above quote means?
> > > Truly, it is only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing)
> > > that our bodies get rid of the VAT that is hurting us.

>
> > > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

>
> > >http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist- Hide quoted text -
>
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

> >
> > > > > Hello,

> >
> > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > with diabetes2:-

> >
> > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

> >
> > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

> >
> > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > "

> >
> > > > > How can you comment on it?

> >
> > > > VAT is bad.

> >
> > > > VAT is completely pathological.

> >
> > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

> >
> > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

>
> 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.
>
> Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:
>
> Adiponectin
> Resistin
> Angiotensin
> Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> TNF
> IL-6
> Leptin
> Estradiol (E2)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissue x'
>
> What does above quote means?


Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
tissue.

Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
organ.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-26-2007, 07:32 PM
truth@is-best.
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"Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
tissue."

Only when it is far outside the normal levels. Even then is thought to
be the bodies action to try to regain balance. At normal levels it
produces hormones useful in normal energy metabolism.

Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue. "This would not be
the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine organ."

But they don't live without it, all people have it, including you this
very second. Have you ever heard of people having glands removed? This
even more a reflection of your not keeping current with research and
thinking on the subject.

The entire concept of what a gland is has changed since you learned by
rote some dozen years or more ago, a lifetime in terms of research
advances. Even the gut is now considered an endoctrine gland because of
the many hormones it produces. Included are the incretins our friends
in diabetes without which normal glucose control is impossible.

God bless.
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:01 AM
Kumar
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On Aug 26, 9:26 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

>
> > > > > > Hello,

>
> > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > with diabetes2:-

>
> > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > "

>
> > > > > > How can you comment on it?

>
> > > > > VAT is bad.

>
> > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

>
> > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

>
> > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

>
> > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

>
> > Adiponectin
> > Resistin
> > Angiotensin
> > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > TNF
> > IL-6
> > Leptin
> > Estradiol (E2)
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

>
> > What does above quote means?

>
> Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> tissue.
>
> Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.
>
> This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> organ.

Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



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Old 08-27-2007, 07:01 AM
Kumar
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On Aug 26, 9:55 pm, truth@is-best. wrote:
> "Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> tissue."
>
> Only when it is far outside the normal levels. Even then is thought to
> be the bodies action to try to regain balance. At normal levels it
> produces hormones useful in normal energy metabolism.

Every regular body's mechanism can be in some nett benefit of
surrvival behind it?
> Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue. "This would not be
> the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine organ."
>
> But they don't live without it, all people have it, including you this
> very second. Have you ever heard of people having glands removed? This
> even more a reflection of your not keeping current with research and
> thinking on the subject.
>
> The entire concept of what a gland is has changed since you learned by
> rote some dozen years or more ago, a lifetime in terms of research
> advances. Even the gut is now considered an endoctrine gland because of
> the many hormones it produces. Included are the incretins our friends
> in diabetes without which normal glucose control is impossible.
>
> God bless.


I think he meant VATs.


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Old 08-27-2007, 05:07 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

> >
> > > > > > > Hello,

> >
> > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

> >
> > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

> >
> > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

> >
> > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > "

> >
> > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

> >
> > > > > > VAT is bad.

> >
> > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

> >
> > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

> >
> > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

> >
> > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

> >
> > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

> >
> > > Adiponectin
> > > Resistin
> > > Angiotensin
> > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > TNF
> > > IL-6
> > > Leptin
> > > Estradiol (E2)
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

> >
> > > What does above quote means?

> >
> > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > tissue.
> >
> > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.
> >
> > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > organ.


> Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?


Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
by VAT.

> > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
> >
> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease


Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-27-2007, 05:07 PM
Kumar
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On Aug 27, 1:54 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

>
> > > > > > > > Hello,

>
> > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

>
> > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > "

>
> > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

>
> > > > > > > VAT is bad.

>
> > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

>
> > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

>
> > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

>
> > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

>
> > > > Adiponectin
> > > > Resistin
> > > > Angiotensin
> > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > TNF
> > > > IL-6
> > > > Leptin
> > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

>
> > > > What does above quote means?

>
> > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > tissue.

>
> > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

>
> > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > organ.

> > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

>
> Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> by VAT.

How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
movements, in acutely and chronically?
> > > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

>
> > >http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



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Old 08-27-2007, 05:07 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

> >
> > > > > > > > > Hello,

> >
> > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

> >
> > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

> >
> > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

> >
> > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > > "

> >
> > > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

> >
> > > > > > > > VAT is bad.

> >
> > > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

> >
> > > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

> >
> > > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

> >
> > > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

> >
> > > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

> >
> > > > > Adiponectin
> > > > > Resistin
> > > > > Angiotensin
> > > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > > TNF
> > > > > IL-6
> > > > > Leptin
> > > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

> >
> > > > > What does above quote means?

> >
> > > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > > tissue.

> >
> > > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

> >
> > > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > > organ.
> > > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

> >
> > Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> > by VAT.

>
> How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
> movements, in acutely and chronically?


It destroys capillaries and damages tissues.

VAT is bad.

Hunger is wonderful.

Truly, only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing out
loud :-) does our bodies get rid of the VAT.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-28-2007, 09:40 AM
Kumar
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Default Re: VAT,s Issue?

On Aug 27, 4:18 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

>
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,

>
> > > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

>
> > > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > > > "

>
> > > > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

>
> > > > > > > > > VAT is bad.

>
> > > > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> > > > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

>
> > > > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

>
> > > > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

>
> > > > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

>
> > > > > > Adiponectin
> > > > > > Resistin
> > > > > > Angiotensin
> > > > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > > > TNF
> > > > > > IL-6
> > > > > > Leptin
> > > > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

>
> > > > > > What does above quote means?

>
> > > > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > > > tissue.

>
> > > > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

>
> > > > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > > > organ.
> > > > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

>
> > > Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> > > by VAT.

>
> > How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
> > movements, in acutely and chronically?

>
> It destroys capillaries and damages tissues.


In acute or chronic inflammation?
> VAT is bad.
>
> Hunger is wonderful.
>
> Truly, only when we are hungry (stomachs singing and laughing out
> loud :-) does our bodies get rid of the VAT.
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



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Old 08-28-2007, 09:40 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello,

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > > > > "

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

> >
> > > > > > > > > > VAT is bad.

> >
> > > > > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

> >
> > > > > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

> >
> > > > > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

> >
> > > > > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

> >
> > > > > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

> >
> > > > > > > Adiponectin
> > > > > > > Resistin
> > > > > > > Angiotensin
> > > > > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > > > > TNF
> > > > > > > IL-6
> > > > > > > Leptin
> > > > > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

> >
> > > > > > > What does above quote means?

> >
> > > > > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > > > > tissue.

> >
> > > > > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

> >
> > > > > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > > > > organ.
> > > > > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

> >
> > > > Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> > > > by VAT.

> >
> > > How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
> > > movements, in acutely and chronically?

> >
> > It destroys capillaries and damages tissues.

>
> In acute or chronic inflammation?


In either.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-28-2007, 04:50 PM
agung.sawadi
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Default Re: VAT,s Issue?

On Aug 27, 11:40 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > > > > > "

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

>
> > > > > > > > > > > VAT is bad.

>
> > > > > > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> > > > > > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

>
> > > > > > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

>
> > > > > > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > > > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

>
> > > > > > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

>
> > > > > > > > Adiponectin
> > > > > > > > Resistin
> > > > > > > > Angiotensin
> > > > > > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > > > > > TNF
> > > > > > > > IL-6
> > > > > > > > Leptin
> > > > > > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

>
> > > > > > > > What does above quote means?

>
> > > > > > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > > > > > tissue.

>
> > > > > > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

>
> > > > > > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > > > > > organ.
> > > > > > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

>
> > > > > Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> > > > > by VAT.

>
> > > > How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
> > > > movements, in acutely and chronically?

>
> > > It destroys capillaries and damages tissues.

>
> > In acute or chronic inflammation?

>
> In either.
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist


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Old 08-29-2007, 10:15 AM
Kumar
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Default Re: VAT,s Issue?

On Aug 28, 8:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > > > > > "

>
> > > > > > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

>
> > > > > > > > > > > VAT is bad.

>
> > > > > > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

>
> > > > > > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

>
> > > > > > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

>
> > > > > > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > > > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

>
> > > > > > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

>
> > > > > > > > Adiponectin
> > > > > > > > Resistin
> > > > > > > > Angiotensin
> > > > > > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > > > > > TNF
> > > > > > > > IL-6
> > > > > > > > Leptin
> > > > > > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

>
> > > > > > > > What does above quote means?

>
> > > > > > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > > > > > tissue.

>
> > > > > > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

>
> > > > > > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > > > > > organ.
> > > > > > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

>
> > > > > Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> > > > > by VAT.

>
> > > > How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
> > > > movements, in acutely and chronically?

>
> > > It destroys capillaries and damages tissues.

>
> > In acute or chronic inflammation?

>
> In either.

Whether such inflammation also damge beta cells or just damage
vascular tissues?
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



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Old 08-29-2007, 10:16 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > oxidation, which would indirectly promote TG storage .
> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/mod...file=article&s...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How can you comment on it?

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > VAT is bad.

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > VAT is completely pathological.

> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Whether mentionings in above article are incorrect?

> >
> > > > > > > > > > Adipose tissue is not an endocrine organ.

> >
> > > > > > > > > 'Adipose tissue is the greatest peripheral source of aromatase in
> > > > > > > > > both males and females contributing to the production of estradiol.

> >
> > > > > > > > > Hormones secreted by adipose tissue include:

> >
> > > > > > > > > Adiponectin
> > > > > > > > > Resistin
> > > > > > > > > Angiotensin
> > > > > > > > > Plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1)
> > > > > > > > > TNF
> > > > > > > > > IL-6
> > > > > > > > > Leptin
> > > > > > > > > Estradiol (E2)
> > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose_tissuex'

> >
> > > > > > > > > What does above quote means?

> >
> > > > > > > > Lots of harmful (i.e. non-essential cytokines) come from adipose
> > > > > > > > tissue.

> >
> > > > > > > > Folks can live perfectly well without adipose tissue.

> >
> > > > > > > > This would not be the case if adipose tissue were truly an endocrine
> > > > > > > > organ.
> > > > > > > Don't we need inflammatory responses for survival?

> >
> > > > > > Not the inflammation arising from the pro-inflammatory cytokines made
> > > > > > by VAT.

> >
> > > > > How such inflammaton effects O2 levels, blood flow and transcapillary
> > > > > movements, in acutely and chronically?

> >
> > > > It destroys capillaries and damages tissues.

> >
> > > In acute or chronic inflammation?

> >
> > In either.

>
> Whether such inflammation also damge beta cells or just damage
> vascular tissues?


It damages all cells.

> > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
> >
> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease


Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

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Old 08-29-2007, 04:10 PM
Kumar
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Default Re: VAT,s Issue?

On Aug 29, 1:13 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Kumar wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following link can be important on new understandings on VATs relation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with diabetes2:-

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Adipose Tissue As An Endocrine Organ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Implications of fat mass expansion..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A thiazolidinedione (TZD) paradox
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adipose macrophages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > VAT Versus SCAT....

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > VAT has twice the glucose uptake rate as SCAT

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, omental VAT cells have been shown to have an approximately
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two-fold higher rate of insulin-stimulated glucose uptake compared
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with SCAT adipocytes, and this could be explained by a higher GLUT-4
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression . Perhaps in situations with a high intake of dietary
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > glycemic load, a higher rate of glucose uptake and subsequently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lipogenesis might be one mechanism by which TGs are stored
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > preferentially in the VAT depot. VAT is highly lipolytic and resistant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to insulin's lipogenic effects yet apparently can remain insulin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sensitive to glucose uptake. This efficiency in glucose uptake may
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reflect VAT's ability to accumulate and maintain its activity.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enhanced glucose utilization in VAT would be accompanied by less lipid
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