red wine for the fbg helps my gums I think

I'm finding that I really have to have that 1/2 glass
of red wine at bed time to keep my fbg under 100.

It also looks like I'm working on having some gum
problems - like some issues in the gums around
my crown, but it also seems like keeping my fbg
under 100 keeps my gums feeling ok.

Is that weird or what?

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:17:44 -0700, dumbfishie99@yahoo.com
wrote:

>
>I'm finding that I really have to have that 1/2 glass
>of red wine at bed time to keep my fbg under 100.
>
>It also looks like I'm working on having some gum
>problems - like some issues in the gums around
>my crown, but it also seems like keeping my fbg
>under 100 keeps my gums feeling ok.
>
>Is that weird or what?

Not weird, very common.

There is an interactive relationship between diabetes and
periodontal problems. My periodontal disease improved quite
dramatically in two stages. First, when I gave up smoking,
and then more when I got my BG's under better control.

See if this clarifies that for you:
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...and-death.html
And see your dentist or periodontist, as appropriate, soon.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
--
I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience.
Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be
an expensive teacher.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:32:19 GMT, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:17:44 -0700, dumbfishie99@yahoo.com
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I'm finding that I really have to have that 1/2 glass
>>of red wine at bed time to keep my fbg under 100.
>>
>>It also looks like I'm working on having some gum
>>problems - like some issues in the gums around
>>my crown, but it also seems like keeping my fbg
>>under 100 keeps my gums feeling ok.
>>
>>Is that weird or what?
>
>Not weird, very common.
>
>There is an interactive relationship between diabetes and
>periodontal problems. My periodontal disease improved quite
>dramatically in two stages. First, when I gave up smoking,
>and then more when I got my BG's under better control.
>
>See if this clarifies that for you:
>http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...and-death.html
>And see your dentist or periodontist, as appropriate, soon.


I will.....it's one of several minor things that need to get taken
care of this summer.

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:20:49 -0700, dumbfishie99@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:32:19 GMT, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>See if this clarifies that for you:
>>http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...and-death.html
>>And see your dentist or periodontist, as appropriate, soon.
>
>
>I will.....it's one of several minor things that need to get taken
>care of this summer.

It's not minor - the same inflammation problems that are causing your
gums to act up are doing the exact same things in your arteries.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:47:56 +0100, Nicky
<ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:20:49 -0700, dumbfishie99@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:32:19 GMT, Alan S
>><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>See if this clarifies that for you:
>>>http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...and-death.html
>>>And see your dentist or periodontist, as appropriate, soon.
>>
>>
>>I will.....it's one of several minor things that need to get taken
>>care of this summer.
>
>It's not minor - the same inflammation problems that are causing your
>gums to act up are doing the exact same things in your arteries.
>
>Nicky.
>T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Beat me to it Nicky. Note the title I used for that blog
entry: Teeth, Gums, Diabetes and Death. I chose that
carefully.

It isn't minor.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

I dont remember where I heard it but I did hear that having diabetes
does exacerbate gum disease. I have no links and I dont even remember
where I heard it, but I did hear it. :-)

Loretta

Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:20:49 -0700, dumbfishie99@yahoo.com wrote:

>>On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:32:19 GMT, Alan S
>><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>See if this clarifies that for you:
>>>http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...and-death.html
>>>And see your dentist or periodontist, as appropriate, soon.
>>
>>
>>I will.....it's one of several minor things that need to get taken
>>care of this summer.

> It's not minor - the same inflammation problems that are causing your
> gums to act up are doing the exact same things in your arteries.

When I started developing gum problems some two or three decades ago
that's what I thought -- if this is what's happening to my gums, what
is happening inside to the parts of my vascular system I can't see? My
wife had recently had a varicosed vein stripped out of her leg, and my
father had recently died of a heart attack after suffering several
minor strokes and vascular demetia. That had sensitised me to the
issue of hidden internal agings and degenerations.

I decided to use the health of my gums and skin as a possible
indicator of the health of my internal vascular system. That's what
caused me to shift my diet way back then in the direction of an
ADA-type heart-healthy diet, with extra fish and fish oils. I
discovered that's what strengthened my gums against being damaged by
robust brushing with a hard brush, and what made my skin less liable
to blisters and bruises, and faster and better recovering from minor
cuts and abrasions. So I hoped that it was similarly benefitting my
cardiovascular system in general.

That's why it didn't take me long to dismiss the ADA's dietary advice
for my T2 diabetes -- I developed my T2 diabetes while already eating
an exemplary ADA-type of heart-healthy diet. Of course I've no doubt
it's a good idea and generally improving of your health and resistance
to diabetic complications if you're eating a worse diet, but I
wasn't. I was already ahead of their game and looking for the next
step in T2 diabetic control, that step which their devotion to mass
epidemiological justifications, aka "evidence based medicine", seems
rather to have obscured.

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

On 20 Jun 2007 08:17:20 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

>When I started developing gum problems some two or three decades ago
>that's what I thought -- if this is what's happening to my gums, what
>is happening inside to the parts of my vascular system I can't see? My
>wife had recently had a varicosed vein stripped out of her leg, and my
>father had recently died of a heart attack after suffering several
>minor strokes and vascular demetia. That had sensitised me to the
>issue of hidden internal agings and degenerations.
>
>I decided to use the health of my gums and skin as a possible
>indicator of the health of my internal vascular system. That's what
>caused me to shift my diet way back then in the direction of an
>ADA-type heart-healthy diet, with extra fish and fish oils. I
>discovered that's what strengthened my gums against being damaged by
>robust brushing with a hard brush, and what made my skin less liable
>to blisters and bruises, and faster and better recovering from minor
>cuts and abrasions. So I hoped that it was similarly benefitting my
>cardiovascular system in general.
>
>That's why it didn't take me long to dismiss the ADA's dietary advice
>for my T2 diabetes -- I developed my T2 diabetes while already eating
>an exemplary ADA-type of heart-healthy diet. Of course I've no doubt
>it's a good idea and generally improving of your health and resistance
>to diabetic complications if you're eating a worse diet, but I
>wasn't. I was already ahead of their game and looking for the next
>step in T2 diabetic control, that step which their devotion to mass
>epidemiological justifications, aka "evidence based medicine", seems
>rather to have obscured.

Fish oil is good for the gums too? I'll take two.