It is religous issue

The time when a group of cells becomes a person is a religious issue.

The cost and quiality of health care is a medical issue that is
pertinent to diabetes and all other chronic illness.

Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent

So this issue does not belong here especially since
it is a Holy mess.

The same laws that will allow certain views to be shoved down the
throoat of others could be used to ban a religion.
Be careful that we do not build our own jail.

You know there is some chance that mandantory abortion may come about
when the population pressures becomes an issue.

Think before you demand others conform to your standard.

It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"

I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
volatible nature of this issue and a reason
it is wrong to bring it here.

Othe other hand, send me title to your property
and I wil bless it. And out of the blue you will
get rich :-)

Religion does not belong here.

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convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote:
>
> The time when a group of cells becomes a person is a religious issue.
>
> The cost and quiality of health care is a medical issue that is
> pertinent to diabetes and all other chronic illness.
>
> Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent
>
> So this issue does not belong here especially since
> it is a Holy mess.
>
> The same laws that will allow certain views to be shoved down the
> throoat of others could be used to ban a religion.
> Be careful that we do not build our own jail.
>
> You know there is some chance that mandantory abortion may come about
> when the population pressures becomes an issue.
>
> Think before you demand others conform to your standard.
>
> It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
> does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"
>
> I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
> volatible nature of this issue and a reason
> it is wrong to bring it here.
>
> Othe other hand, send me title to your property
> and I wil bless it. And out of the blue you will
> get rich :-)
>
> Religion does not belong here.

GOD is omnipresent...

.... and HE is not religious.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed by GOD:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...

>Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent

There also is no reason for a *mature* person to impregnate someone.

>It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
>does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"

It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a
potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that.

>I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
>volatible nature of this issue and a reason
>it is wrong to bring it here.

Yabbut you started a thread about something that is "wrong to bring
here", so it goes where it goes. Your above statements do show that
you have taken a stand by assessing the blame for pregnancy to women.
BTW, I have a book to sell you about the Birds and the Bees, and how
people become pregnant, you sexist little thing, you. ;-)

Cheri

In article <peidnZdUe9IPajDbnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@inreach.com>,
"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>
> >Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent
>
> There also is no reason for a *mature* person to impregnate someone.
>
> >It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
> >does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"
>
> It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a
> potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that.
>
> >I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
> >volatible nature of this issue and a reason
> >it is wrong to bring it here.
>
> Yabbut you started a thread about something that is "wrong to bring
> here", so it goes where it goes. Your above statements do show that
> you have taken a stand by assessing the blame for pregnancy to women.
> BTW, I have a book to sell you about the Birds and the Bees, and how
> people become pregnant, you sexist little thing, you. ;-)

Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
100% reliable is abstinence.

Priscilla

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:32:06 -0400, "Priscilla H. Ballou"
<vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:

>In article <peidnZdUe9IPajDbnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@inreach.com>,
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
>
>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>>
>> >Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent
>>
>> There also is no reason for a *mature* person to impregnate someone.
>>
>> >It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
>> >does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"
>>
>> It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a
>> potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that.
>>
>> >I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
>> >volatible nature of this issue and a reason
>> >it is wrong to bring it here.
>>
>> Yabbut you started a thread about something that is "wrong to bring
>> here", so it goes where it goes. Your above statements do show that
>> you have taken a stand by assessing the blame for pregnancy to women.
>> BTW, I have a book to sell you about the Birds and the Bees, and how
>> people become pregnant, you sexist little thing, you. ;-)
>
>Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>100% reliable is abstinence.
>
>Priscilla

Last I heard sterilization works very well and is a lot more fun.
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651.
United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:42:52 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:32:06 -0400, "Priscilla H. Ballou"
><vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <peidnZdUe9IPajDbnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@inreach.com>,
>> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
>>
>>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> >Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent
>>>
>>> There also is no reason for a *mature* person to impregnate someone.
>>>
>>> >It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
>>> >does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"
>>>
>>> It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a
>>> potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that.
>>>
>>> >I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
>>> >volatible nature of this issue and a reason
>>> >it is wrong to bring it here.
>>>
>>> Yabbut you started a thread about something that is "wrong to bring
>>> here", so it goes where it goes. Your above statements do show that
>>> you have taken a stand by assessing the blame for pregnancy to women.
>>> BTW, I have a book to sell you about the Birds and the Bees, and how
>>> people become pregnant, you sexist little thing, you. ;-)
>>
>>Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>>100% reliable is abstinence.
>>
>>Priscilla
>
>Last I heard sterilization works very well and is a lot more fun.

Guess I had better take a stand. There is an excellent excuse for
strict sex behavior. It is the best way rto pass on several
diseases that you can fnd

Durng my life I have seen so many that were born in the wrong
circumstances. It a close call, but maybe t they would have been
better, if they had never been born. Guess they make good slaves or
cannon fodder.

I had two children and their developent and education was the highest
priority.

Mona had two children and she sent both through college even
though her husband died very early.

But I have seen so many that were relewgated to an inferior situation
before they wer born.

I bet I knew about the bird and bees at an earlier age than you.
I grew up in a rough enviroment. Thst had little effect on
tsking unnecessary risk in a moment where the instincts dominated us.

Religious rules made long ago in great ignorance should be
examined carefully. Careful living is a marker of itewlligence.

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This should be makred OT Guy

Abortion is a legal issue to me, not a religious one My faith believes
that life begins when a child is born I have no ethical or religous
beliefs that contradict a womens right to choose. It is the law of the
land

I dont want those religious zealots getting into our laws.

Loretta

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:14:30 -0400, sassybklynlady@webtv.net (Loretta
Eisenberg) wrote:

>This should be makred OT Guy
>
>Abortion is a legal issue to me, not a religious one My faith believes
>that life begins when a child is born I have no ethical or religous
>beliefs that contradict a womens right to choose. It is the law of the
>land
>
>I dont want those religious zealots getting into our laws.
>
>Loretta

Loretta, this subject reminds me of the old adage.

Keep them bare footed and pregnant. Early in my
life it might have been--Keep them bent over
the wash board. electricity was not common in
rural America.

I went to school with so many orphans where their
mother died in child birth. In so many cases they had
a stepmother shortly.

Being exposed to many segment of our society
alters my view a lot. Easy answers are usually
defective.
I try to look at things from many angles. So
I insult all.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:20:25 -0700, guys@consolidated.net wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:42:52 GMT, Grandpa Chuck

>>Last I heard sterilization works very well and is a lot more fun.
>
>Guess I had better take a stand. There is an excellent excuse for
>strict sex behavior.

Are you joking? The best answer is a good, truthful, non judgmental
sex education.

> It is the best way rto pass on several
>diseases that you can fnd
>
>Durng my life I have seen so many that were born in the wrong
>circumstances. It a close call, but maybe t they would have been
>better, if they had never been born.

That is not for you nor I to say - EVER.

> Guess they make good slaves or
>cannon fodder.
>
>I had two children and their developent and education was the highest
>priority.

And I had seven. I did the best at that I could considering being
married to a woman that put me down at every turn and challenged every
standard I tried to set for the kids. The details of that would
probably curl you hair.

>
>Mona had two children and she sent both through college even
>though her husband died very early.
>
>But I have seen so many that were relewgated to an inferior situation
>before they wer born.
>
>I bet I knew about the bird and bees at an earlier age than you.

Another ridiculous statement on your part.

>I grew up in a rough enviroment. Thst had little effect on
>tsking unnecessary risk in a moment where the instincts dominated us.

How far down that road do you really want to go? Where I live teens
were not allowed to buy condoms or diaphragms and there weren't any
other artificial means of birth control or disease protection.

>
>Religious rules made long ago in great ignorance should be
>examined carefully. Careful living is a marker of itewlligence.

Please explain what you mean by "Careful living is a marker of
intelligence." To me it just sounds like one more chance for you to
put _your_ judgments on others.

--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651.
United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n-
>
> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>
> Priscilla
>
Depressing

John

johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ...
>
>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-
>>
>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control
that's
>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>
>> Priscilla
>>
>Depressing
>
>John


Truly!

Cheri

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:49:58 -0700, guys@consolidated.net wrote:

>
>
>The time when a group of cells becomes a person is a religious issue.

no it's not.

>
>The cost and quiality of health care is a medical issue that is
>pertinent to diabetes and all other chronic illness.

mot just chronic illness.

>
>Todau there is no reason for a mature person to become preganent

are you smoking crack?

>
>So this issue does not belong here especially since
>it is a Holy mess.

Diabetics get pregnant. It is on topic.

>
>The same laws that will allow certain views to be shoved down the
>throoat of others could be used to ban a religion.
>Be careful that we do not build our own jail.

Stop making things up.

>
>You know there is some chance that mandantory abortion may come about
>when the population pressures becomes an issue.

would that this were in effect when chung's mother was pregnant, there
would be one less whack job harassing usenet.

>
>Think before you demand others conform to your standard.

practice what you preach.

>
>It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
>does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"
>

if you are going to use that kind of demented logic, every time a male
has wet dream they are guilty of the same crime. In fact spilling
one's seed on the ground is specifically mentioned. But not getting
pregnant every time a woman is ovulating is NOT mentioned in religious
texts. So your interpretation is not only wrong, but guess which
gender is gonna get punished.

>I do NOT take a stand but I am pointing out the
>volatible nature of this issue and a reason
>it is wrong to bring it here.

then you should have left it alone. Instead you are needless stirring
shit.

>
>Othe other hand, send me title to your property
>and I wil bless it. And out of the blue you will
> get rich :-)
>

yea, and every TV evangelist who makes that claim ends the same way,
dead and 6 feet under just like everyone else on the planet.

>Religion does not belong here.

then stop bringing it up and whining about it.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n-
>>
>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>
>> Priscilla
>>
>Depressing
>
>John
>

there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not
the only way.

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but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:24:56 -0400, Måck©®
<trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
><johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message news:vze23t8n-
>>>
>>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>>
>>> Priscilla
>>>
>>Depressing
>>
>>John
>>
>
>there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
>totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not
>the only way.

Amen brother. Those pushing abstinence only as an agenda are generally
the same people who want mind control over others. You know, like far
too many irreligious groups and their leaders.
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651.
United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:09:04 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>Amen brother. Those pushing abstinence only as an agenda are generally
>the same people who want mind control over others. You know, like far
>too many irreligious groups and their leaders.
>--

Sometimes you can tell em by that milky look in their eyeballs. ;-)

Will, T2

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:40:50 -0700, "Cheri"
<gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

>>It could be said that anytime a girl is fertile and
>>does not get preganent she is kill a potentail "human"
>
>It could be said that anytime a male masturbates, he is killing a
>potential human too, but only an idiot would say something like that.

An interesting solution for the overpopulation problem...

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Exactly. What do you do about panspermia ?

Some female dominated societies do not even recognise the primeval
uncontrollable urge to procreate .. a basic biological necessity that
the male of the species can do nothing about ...

Personally, I shun with the greatest of vehemence, such societies ...



"johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> a écrit ...
>
> "Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vze23t8n-
>>
>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>
>> Priscilla
>>
> Depressing
>
> John

"Måck©®" <trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote in message
news:47psa3llrh7n7g60o9f1p4qn53ghbjot01@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:vze23t8n-
>>>
>>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>>
>>> Priscilla
>>>
>>Depressing
>>
>>John
>>
>
> there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
> totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not
> the only way.
>
When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often.

John

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:12:53 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often.


But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-)

Were you the subject of that lovelorn young woman who sang, "Johnnie
Angel"?

Will, T2

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:16:50 -0400, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:12:53 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
><johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often.
>
>
>But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-)
>
>Were you the subject of that lovelorn young woman who sang, "Johnnie
>Angel"?
>
>Will, T2


Shelly Fabares was the delightful young singer of that song...
recorded in 1962

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4832LQ0_T8g


Will, T2

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-)
>
I prefer the term, "swordsman? .... hehe

John

now retired, blunted blade ?




"johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> a écrit ...
>
> "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-)
>>
> I prefer the term, "swordsman? .... hehe
>
> John
>

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:12:53 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Måck©®" <trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote in message
>news:47psa3llrh7n7g60o9f1p4qn53ghbjot01@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>news:vze23t8n-
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control that's
>>>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>>>
>>>> Priscilla
>>>>
>>>Depressing
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>
>> there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
>> totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is not
>> the only way.
>>
>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked.... often.
>
>John
>
An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.

At least thread has not been touting our free enterprie system

Free to steal and con.

We are a stupid lot.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:15:44 -0400, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:09:04 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>
>>Amen brother. Those pushing abstinence only as an agenda are generally
>>the same people who want mind control over others. You know, like far
>>too many irreligious groups and their leaders.
>>--
>
>Sometimes you can tell em by that milky look in their eyeballs. ;-)
>
>Will, T2


wait a minute, are we talking about the same people? for some reason I
just the image of religious clergy on their knees asking for a tissue
to wipe their eyes after they broke their own rules AGAIN.


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right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:24:49 -0400, Måck©®
<trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote:

>wait a minute, are we talking about the same people? for some reason I
>just the image of religious clergy on their knees asking for a tissue
>to wipe their eyes after they broke their own rules AGAIN.


And thus, starts the cycle of frustration, all over again, culminating
in milky eyeballs, followed by more rule-breaking.... and the need for
more tissues.

Will, T2

" Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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>
> now retired, blunted blade ?
>
>
>
>
> "johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> a écrit ...
>>
>> "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> But John, you were a rascal, and rascals get away with a lot ;-)
>>>
>> I prefer the term, "swordsman? .... hehe
>>
>> John
>>
>
overstressed steel

John

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:19:21 -0700, guys@consolidated.net
wrote:

>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.

Guy, please issue keyboard alerts.
Damn - and I just cleaned it!




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guys@consolidated.net wrote in message
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>On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:12:53 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
><johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Måck©®" <trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote in message
>>news:47psa3llrh7n7g60o9f1p4qn53ghbjot01@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:vze23t8n-
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control
that's
>>>>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Priscilla
>>>>>
>>>>Depressing
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>
>>> there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
>>> totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is
not
>>> the only way.
>>>
>>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked....
often.
>>
>>John
>>
>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.

Wouldn't a cold shower have worked as well for you as the orange
juice running down your leg?

Cheri

"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
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>
> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message
> <483ta3p0oos4pfhlb5g42jkt5rsjjevsek@4ax.com>...
>>On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:12:53 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>><johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Måck©®" <trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote in message
>>>news:47psa3llrh7n7g60o9f1p4qn53ghbjot01@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:vze23t8n-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control
> that's
>>>>>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Priscilla
>>>>>>
>>>>>Depressing
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
>>>> totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is
> not
>>>> the only way.
>>>>
>>>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked....
> often.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.
>
> Wouldn't a cold shower have worked as well for you as the orange
> juice running down your leg?
>
> Cheri
>
Men don't squeeze things that tight, Cheri.

John

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:19:21 -0700, guys@consolidated.net wrote:


>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.

Hers or his?
--

Grandpa Chuck
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~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 29, 2007 is 3,651.
United Kingdom = 163 Other = 129.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 30, 2007 it has been 1552 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:30:32 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
>news:VfCdnYyyJIX1OjPbnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@inreach.com ...
>>
>> guys@consolidated.net wrote in message
>> <483ta3p0oos4pfhlb5g42jkt5rsjjevsek@4ax.com>...
>>>On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:12:53 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>><johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Måck©®" <trolls@renotworthsaving.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:47psa3llrh7n7g60o9f1p4qn53ghbjot01@4ax.co m...
>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:37:17 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:vze23t8n-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to mention the fact that the only method of birth control
>> that's
>>>>>>> 100% reliable is abstinence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Priscilla
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Depressing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> there are several methods of enjoy sex that are totally safe, and
>>>>> totally effective when it comes to birth control. Abstinence is
>> not
>>>>> the only way.
>>>>>
>>>>When I was young I used the "crossed fingers" method. It worked....
>> often.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.
>>
>> Wouldn't a cold shower have worked as well for you as the orange
>> juice running down your leg?
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>Men don't squeeze things that tight, Cheri.
>
>John
>
John, soome people do get very excited.

Duh, if Iremember correcly
\ Guy

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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:06:47 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:19:21 -0700, guys@consolidated.net wrote:
>
>
>>An orange seemed to work How? put it between the legs.
>
>Hers or his?

This is one area where I object giving giving lessons.

I don't remember anyway.

GUY

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Heh now theres a unfortunate double entredre..lol

KROM

<guys@consolidated.net> wrote


.. Early in my life it might have been--Keep them bent over
the wash board. =----

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:20:48 -0500, "krom"
<thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Heh now theres a unfortunate double entredre..lol
>
>KROM
>
><guys@consolidated.net> wrote
>
>
>. Early in my life it might have been--Keep them bent over
> the wash board. =----
>
Reallyy not intended. Before washng machne washday was a big deal

It is hard to expain to so many spoied brats today the burden of
living in the past. Rights were so far down the list.

We did not vhave many modern washers until the late 40's.

And I will repeat-- so many women died in child birth.
and in the false modesty that delayed examnation of
a problem until it was too late.

These were the real issues as I witnessed them.

Not if someone can arrange a sex psarty tonight.

By the way, I know of saeveral peple that had a horrible
later life because they were unaware of the disease
problem.

When I was very young, an old man warned me about
the walking sewers that were around.

Let's see how this sells.

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