<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolicsyndrome<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
Health Forums

Go Back   Health Forums > Diseases and Conditions > Diabetes > alt.support.diabetes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-10-2008, 02:02 AM
Susan
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolicsyndrome

x-no-archive: yes

http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf

"Review
Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and
metabolic syndrome: time for a critical appraisal
Anthony Accurso , Richard K Bernstein , Annika Dahlqvist , Boris Draznin
, Richard D Feinman , Eugene J Fine , Amy Gleed , David B Jacobs ,
Gabriel Larson , Robert H Lustig , Anssi H Manninen , Samy I McFarlane ,
Katharine Morrison , Jorgen VESTI Nielsen , Uffe Ravnskov , Karl S Roth
, Ricardo Silvestre , James R Sowers , Ralph Sundberg , Jeff S Volek ,
Eric C Westman , Richard J Wood , Jay Wortman and Mary C Vernon

Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:9doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-9


Published: 8 April 2008

Abstract (provisional)
Current nutritional approaches to metabolism syndrome and type 2
diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of
such approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary
strategy. The rationale is based on the accepted idea that carbohydrate
restriction improves glycemic control and reduces insulin fluctuations
which are primary targets. Experiments are summarized showing that
carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as effective for weight loss
as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for carbohydrate is
generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease. These positive
effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight loss. Finally,
the point is re-iterated that carbohydrate restriction improves all of
the features of metabolic syndrome."

Susan
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-10-2008, 02:30 AM
W. Baker
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
: x-no-archive: yes

: http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf

: "Review
: Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and
: metabolic syndrome: time for a critical appraisal
: Anthony Accurso , Richard K Bernstein , Annika Dahlqvist , Boris Draznin
: , Richard D Feinman , Eugene J Fine , Amy Gleed , David B Jacobs ,
: Gabriel Larson , Robert H Lustig , Anssi H Manninen , Samy I McFarlane ,
: Katharine Morrison , Jorgen VESTI Nielsen , Uffe Ravnskov , Karl S Roth
: , Ricardo Silvestre , James R Sowers , Ralph Sundberg , Jeff S Volek ,
: Eric C Westman , Richard J Wood , Jay Wortman and Mary C Vernon

: Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:9doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-9


: Published: 8 April 2008

: Abstract (provisional)
: Current nutritional approaches to metabolism syndrome and type 2
: diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of
: such approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
: pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
: carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
: problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary
: strategy. The rationale is based on the accepted idea that
: carbohydrate
: restriction improves glycemic control and reduces insulin fluctuations
: which are primary targets. Experiments are summarized showing that
: carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as effective for weight loss
: as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for carbohydrate is
: generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease. These positive
: effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight loss. Finally,
: the point is re-iterated that carbohydrate restriction improves all of
: the features of metabolic syndrome."

: Susan

It's about time!!!

Wendy
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-10-2008, 08:12 PM
Michelle C.
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM andmetabolic syndrome

On Apr 9, 5:38 pm, Susan <neverm...@nomail.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf
>
> "Review
> Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and
> metabolic syndrome: time for a critical appraisal
> Anthony Accurso , Richard K Bernstein , Annika Dahlqvist , Boris Draznin
> , Richard D Feinman , Eugene J Fine , Amy Gleed , David B Jacobs ,
> Gabriel Larson , Robert H Lustig , Anssi H Manninen , Samy I McFarlane ,
> Katharine Morrison , Jorgen VESTI Nielsen , Uffe Ravnskov , Karl S Roth
> , Ricardo Silvestre , James R Sowers , Ralph Sundberg , Jeff S Volek ,
> Eric C Westman , Richard J Wood , Jay Wortman and Mary C Vernon
>
> Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:9doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-9
>
> Published: 8 April 2008
>
> Abstract (provisional)
> Current nutritional approaches to metabolism syndrome and type 2
> diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of
> such approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
> pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
> carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
> problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary
> strategy. The rationale is based on the accepted idea that carbohydrate
> restriction improves glycemic control and reduces insulin fluctuations
> which are primary targets. Experiments are summarized showing that
> carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as effective for weight loss
> as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for carbohydrate is
> generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease. These positive
> effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight loss. Finally,
> the point is re-iterated that carbohydrate restriction improves all of
> the features of metabolic syndrome."
>
> Susan


Thanks for the post, Susan!

Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-10-2008, 10:31 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM andmetabolic syndrome

Instead of dieting, it remains much smarter to simply eat less, down
to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater
understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

convicted neighbor Susan wrote:
>
> http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf
>
> "Review
> Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and
> metabolic syndrome: time for a critical appraisal
> Anthony Accurso , Richard K Bernstein , Annika Dahlqvist , Boris Draznin
> , Richard D Feinman , Eugene J Fine , Amy Gleed , David B Jacobs ,
> Gabriel Larson , Robert H Lustig , Anssi H Manninen , Samy I McFarlane ,
> Katharine Morrison , Jorgen VESTI Nielsen , Uffe Ravnskov , Karl S Roth
> , Ricardo Silvestre , James R Sowers , Ralph Sundberg , Jeff S Volek ,
> Eric C Westman , Richard J Wood , Jay Wortman and Mary C Vernon
>
> Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:9doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-9
>
>
> Published: 8 April 2008
>
> Abstract (provisional)
> Current nutritional approaches to metabolism syndrome and type 2
> diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of
> such approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
> pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
> carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
> problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary
> strategy. The rationale is based on the accepted idea that carbohydrate
> restriction improves glycemic control and reduces insulin fluctuations
> which are primary targets. Experiments are summarized showing that
> carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as effective for weight loss
> as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for carbohydrate is
> generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease. These positive
> effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight loss. Finally,
> the point is re-iterated that carbohydrate restriction improves all of
> the features of metabolic syndrome."
>
> Susan

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-10-2008, 11:30 PM
bj
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

I am so happy for all of you low-carbers that there is some research backup
for your position. But I dread if the day ever comes when my doctor says
"no more meds; go low carb or else!"

If I did do a low-carb regimen, I probably would lose weight, since I
wouldn't be eating enough. My docs wouldn't like that much. And I
wouldn't have the energy to exercise, nor the motivation if all I had to
look forward to was veggies for "treats".
bj

> On Apr 9, 5:38 pm, Susan <neverm...@nomail.com> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf
>>
>> "Review
>> Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and
>> metabolic syndrome: time for a critical appraisal
>> Anthony Accurso , Richard K Bernstein , Annika Dahlqvist , Boris Draznin
>> , Richard D Feinman , Eugene J Fine , Amy Gleed , David B Jacobs ,
>> Gabriel Larson , Robert H Lustig , Anssi H Manninen , Samy I McFarlane ,
>> Katharine Morrison , Jorgen VESTI Nielsen , Uffe Ravnskov , Karl S Roth
>> , Ricardo Silvestre , James R Sowers , Ralph Sundberg , Jeff S Volek ,
>> Eric C Westman , Richard J Wood , Jay Wortman and Mary C Vernon
>>
>> Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:9doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-9
>>
>> Published: 8 April 2008
>>
>> Abstract (provisional)
>> Current nutritional approaches to metabolism syndrome and type 2
>> diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of
>> such approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
>> pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
>> carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
>> problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary
>> strategy. The rationale is based on the accepted idea that carbohydrate
>> restriction improves glycemic control and reduces insulin fluctuations
>> which are primary targets. Experiments are summarized showing that
>> carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as effective for weight loss
>> as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for carbohydrate is
>> generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease. These positive
>> effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight loss. Finally,
>> the point is re-iterated that carbohydrate restriction improves all of
>> the features of metabolic syndrome."
>>
>> Susan




Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-11-2008, 05:31 AM
Oleg Lego
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome


On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:59:47 GMT, bj posted:

>I am so happy for all of you low-carbers that there is some research backup
>for your position. But I dread if the day ever comes when my doctor says
>"no more meds; go low carb or else!"
>
>If I did do a low-carb regimen, I probably would lose weight, since I
>wouldn't be eating enough. My docs wouldn't like that much. And I
>wouldn't have the energy to exercise, nor the motivation if all I had to
>look forward to was veggies for "treats".


What, you don't like cheese or peanut butter or nuts or jerky, or
yoghurt or ??

--
Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-11-2008, 09:00 AM
Nicky
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:59:47 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

>If I did do a low-carb regimen, I probably would lose weight, since I
>wouldn't be eating enough. My docs wouldn't like that much. And I
>wouldn't have the energy to exercise, nor the motivation if all I had to
>look forward to was veggies for "treats".


That is completely untrue, you know. You'd have all the energy you
wanted for exercise; and you could eat very, very well.

But don't worry, if you ever get fed up with overstimulating your
pancreas, this information is all freely available.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-11-2008, 10:32 AM
GysdeJongh
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:6655s8F2iog9sU3@mid.individual.net...
>
> http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf
>
> "Review


> Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes


> Richard K Bernstein


> Richard D Feinman


Hi Susan,
thanks for the link
The important points for me :
1) It is a review and it has a lot of references which you could look up if
you want to check things for yourself

2) It is free , so any one can download it .It will take some time to read
it but you will learn a lot.I think we should keep this one for future
use.There was a thread very recently like "A friend asked" and there will be
questions again on the effects of low carb.

3) It clearly states that low carb is effective in diminishing meds and it
gives (of course) references for that. I recently posted a 2004 review but
that was not a free one.

Thanks again
Gys


Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-11-2008, 09:30 PM
bj
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

"Oleg Lego" <rat@atatatat.com> wrote in message
news:8fptv354va26ml348emp1m58dhctc83b4c@4ax.com...
>
> What, you don't like cheese or peanut butter or nuts or jerky, or
> yoghurt or ??
>


Not as a steady diet, no (though I haven't tried jerky *lately* I don't have
fond memories of it).
bj


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-11-2008, 09:30 PM
bj
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:rn4uv398ob3j4oq1uo2u4igrhhdue60gln@4ax.com...
> But don't worry, if you ever get fed up with overstimulating your
> pancreas, this information is all freely available.
>


I knew I was going to get at least one flame from my post!
bj


Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-11-2008, 10:30 PM
Nicky
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:54:11 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

>"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
>news:rn4uv398ob3j4oq1uo2u4igrhhdue60gln@4ax.com.. .
>> But don't worry, if you ever get fed up with overstimulating your
>> pancreas, this information is all freely available.
>>

>
>I knew I was going to get at least one flame from my post!
>bj
>


BJ - that was not a flame. I was simply pointing out that your
perception of low carb eating is about 100% wrong.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-12-2008, 02:01 AM
Oleg Lego
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome


On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:54:11 GMT, bj posted:

>"Oleg Lego" <rat@atatatat.com> wrote in message
>news:8fptv354va26ml348emp1m58dhctc83b4c@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> What, you don't like cheese or peanut butter or nuts or jerky, or
>> yoghurt or ??
>>

>
>Not as a steady diet, no (though I haven't tried jerky *lately* I don't have
>fond memories of it).


Well, you asked about snacks, not as a sole source of nutrition.

The other thing is that you can increase your carbs some, in another
way; by eating small amounts as a snack. I often have a couple of
cookies. The ones I like are 5 g carbs each, so two eaten as an
afternoon or evening snack suits me just fine.

--
Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-12-2008, 09:01 PM
Trinkwasser
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:03:02 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
<wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

>Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
>: x-no-archive: yes
>
>: http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.co...3-7075-5-9.pdf
>
>: "Review
>: Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and
>: metabolic syndrome: time for a critical appraisal
>: Anthony Accurso , Richard K Bernstein , Annika Dahlqvist , Boris Draznin
>: , Richard D Feinman , Eugene J Fine , Amy Gleed , David B Jacobs ,
>: Gabriel Larson , Robert H Lustig , Anssi H Manninen , Samy I McFarlane ,
>: Katharine Morrison , Jorgen VESTI Nielsen , Uffe Ravnskov , Karl S Roth
>: , Ricardo Silvestre , James R Sowers , Ralph Sundberg , Jeff S Volek ,
>: Eric C Westman , Richard J Wood , Jay Wortman and Mary C Vernon
>
>: Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:9doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-9
>
>
>: Published: 8 April 2008
>
>: Abstract (provisional)
>: Current nutritional approaches to metabolism syndrome and type 2
>: diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of
>: such approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
>: pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
>: carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
>: problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary
>: strategy. The rationale is based on the accepted idea that
>: carbohydrate
>: restriction improves glycemic control and reduces insulin fluctuations
>: which are primary targets. Experiments are summarized showing that
>: carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as effective for weight loss
>: as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for carbohydrate is
>: generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease. These positive
>: effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight loss. Finally,
>: the point is re-iterated that carbohydrate restriction improves all of
>: the features of metabolic syndrome."
>
>: Susan
>
>It's about time!!!


Hallelujia!!!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-12-2008, 09:01 PM
Trinkwasser
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Review of dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 DM and metabolic syndrome

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:35:11 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:59:47 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
>wrote:
>
>>If I did do a low-carb regimen, I probably would lose weight, since I
>>wouldn't be eating enough. My docs wouldn't like that much. And I
>>wouldn't have the energy to exercise, nor the motivation if all I had to
>>look forward to was veggies for "treats".

>
>That is completely untrue, you know. You'd have all the energy you
>wanted for exercise; and you could eat very, very well.


YMMV but I now have far *more* energy than when I was on the high carb
diet and my BG and insulin levels were ratchetting all over the place.

You obviously know what you're doing for yourself works and all power
to you. OTOH you may be surprised (by some standards you may already
be considered to be low carbing)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Re: Carbohydrate restriction, gut peptides and adiposity signals in men and women with metabolic syndrome Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD alt.support.diabetes 0 07-22-2007 09:03 PM
essential role of dietary carbohydrate in beta cell destruction Jim Chinnis alt.support.diabetes 10 07-09-2007 09:44 PM
Re: Dietary carbohydrate modification induces alterations in gene expression in abdominal subcutaneous adipose tissue in persons with the metabolic syndrome: the FUNGENUT Study Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD alt.support.diabetes 1 05-14-2007 05:04 AM
Clinical trials involving carbohydrate restriction Susan alt.support.diabetes 3 03-07-2007 12:18 PM
Interesing article about life extension, calorie restriction andaccelerated aging in type 2 DM Susan alt.support.diabetes 10 11-08-2006 10:15 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
     
   
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41