RIFE THERAPY

I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.

Thanks

I just Googled it. Looks like a great way to lose money.
My opinion? Rife therapy = snake oil. It's a bunch of hoo ha designed
to bilk money out of unsuspecting people eager to get rid of what ever
medical problem is plaguing them.


franna wrote:
> I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
> experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:36:29 GMT, "franna" <u28161@uwe>
wrote:

>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks

The polite answer is that it's a total waste of money. Worse
than that, if you put your faith in this sort of nonsense at
the expense of seeing qualified medical practitioners and
making appropriate lifestyle adjustments to better manage
your type 2 - then these quack treatments are positively
dangerous.

Start by doing a search on "rife" on www.quackwatch.com ,
but also do just a little more searching on the web. Several
lawsuits appear to be happening for "Rife" practitioners.

That comment applies to any of the quack cures out there.

Ultrasound curing diabetes and cancer? If you believe that,
please contact me directly for some great ideas I have about
investing YOUR money in MY retirement plan.

Seriously, for your diabetes, try investing some effort in
this plan instead:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Tarascon - Chateau du Roi Rene

"franna" <u28161@uwe> wrote:

>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks

It's one of the more ridiculous forms of quackery. Running away from
it will provide exercise.
--
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Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Peter Bowditch <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote:

>"franna" <u28161@uwe> wrote:
>
>>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks
>
>It's one of the more ridiculous forms of quackery. Running away from
>it will provide exercise.

I forgot -

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/rifeslammer.htm
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Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
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To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> "franna" <u28161@uwe> wrote:
>
>>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks
>
> It's one of the more ridiculous forms of quackery. Running away from
> it will provide exercise.
> --

And the laughter that's also an appropriate response is good for stress
relief -- & good for your bg!
bj

sharppointy1 wrote:
>I just Googled it. Looks like a great way to lose money.
>My opinion? Rife therapy = snake oil. It's a bunch of hoo ha designed
>to bilk money out of unsuspecting people eager to get rid of what ever
>medical problem is plaguing them.
>
>> I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>> experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks


thanks for your opinion. What i'm looking for is more first hand experience.
There are many truths out there and I have an open mind. Conventional medical
science unfortunately is also not innocent when it comes to 'snake oil'. One
must keep an open mind whether dealing with conventional medicine or
alternative medicine.

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Alan S wrote:
>>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks
>
>The polite answer is that it's a total waste of money. Worse
>than that, if you put your faith in this sort of nonsense at
>the expense of seeing qualified medical practitioners and
>making appropriate lifestyle adjustments to better manage
>your type 2 - then these quack treatments are positively
>dangerous.
>
>Start by doing a search on "rife" on www.quackwatch.com ,
>but also do just a little more searching on the web. Several
>lawsuits appear to be happening for "Rife" practitioners.
>
>That comment applies to any of the quack cures out there.
>
>Ultrasound curing diabetes and cancer? If you believe that,
>please contact me directly for some great ideas I have about
>investing YOUR money in MY retirement plan.
>
>Seriously, for your diabetes, try investing some effort in
>this plan instead:
>http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>--
>http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
>latest: Tarascon - Chateau du Roi Rene

Thanks for taking the effort to reply in so much detail. As per my previous
posting I'm looking for 1st hand experience. I also believe in keeping an
open mind. "Science" is often abused to keep certain scientific paradigms in
place for the sole benefit of the dignity of the 'scientific community". I'm
definately not against allopathy or conventional medicine nor am I against
alternative medicine. In the end it is about keeping an open mind,
investigating the facts and the 'facts' and forming an informed opinion.
Unfortunately the internet is also not that reliable when it comes to the
facts....even quackwatch is extremely biased.

Hopefully someone with 1st hand experience will respond.

Regards

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:17:40 GMT, "franna via MedKB.com" <u28161@uwe>
wrote:

>sharppointy1 wrote:
>>I just Googled it. Looks like a great way to lose money.
>>My opinion? Rife therapy = snake oil. It's a bunch of hoo ha designed
>>to bilk money out of unsuspecting people eager to get rid of what ever
>>medical problem is plaguing them.
>>
>>> I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>>> experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
>
>thanks for your opinion. What i'm looking for is more first hand experience.
>There are many truths out there and I have an open mind. Conventional medical
>science unfortunately is also not innocent when it comes to 'snake oil'. One
>must keep an open mind whether dealing with conventional medicine or
>alternative medicine.

I think we should send all medical frauds or medical
extortionist's to jail. They are committing a
crime much worse than a stupid kid that grabs a car.

The FDA needs to look at this spam and this device.

I worked in the 1950's with a fellow touting magic cure devices
with star war jargon. Later I heard he had to be committed.



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"franna via MedKB.com" <u28161@uwe> wrote in message
news:682676923d39d@uwe...
> sharppointy1 wrote:
> >I just Googled it. Looks like a great way to lose money.
> >My opinion? Rife therapy = snake oil. It's a bunch of hoo ha designed
> >to bilk money out of unsuspecting people eager to get rid of what ever
> >medical problem is plaguing them.
> >
> >> I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
> >> experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
>
> thanks for your opinion. What i'm looking for is more first hand
experience.
> There are many truths out there and I have an open mind. Conventional
medical
> science unfortunately is also not innocent when it comes to 'snake oil'.
One
> must keep an open mind whether dealing with conventional medicine or
> alternative medicine.
>
What makes you think anyone will admit trying it?

Posted in alt.support.diabetes

One must keep an "open wallet" when dealing with most of them. I choose
not to.

--
Cheri

franna via MedKB.com wrote in message
<682676923d39d@uwe>...
>science unfortunately is also not innocent when it comes to 'snake
oil'. One
>must keep an open mind whether dealing with conventional medicine or
>alternative medicine.

"franna via MedKB.com" <u28161@uwe> wrote:

>Alan S wrote:
>>>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>>>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>
>>The polite answer is that it's a total waste of money. Worse
>>than that, if you put your faith in this sort of nonsense at
>>the expense of seeing qualified medical practitioners and
>>making appropriate lifestyle adjustments to better manage
>>your type 2 - then these quack treatments are positively
>>dangerous.
>>
>>Start by doing a search on "rife" on www.quackwatch.com ,
>>but also do just a little more searching on the web. Several
>>lawsuits appear to be happening for "Rife" practitioners.
>>
>>That comment applies to any of the quack cures out there.
>>
>>Ultrasound curing diabetes and cancer? If you believe that,
>>please contact me directly for some great ideas I have about
>>investing YOUR money in MY retirement plan.
>>
>>Seriously, for your diabetes, try investing some effort in
>>this plan instead:
>>http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>>--
>>http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
>>latest: Tarascon - Chateau du Roi Rene
>
>Thanks for taking the effort to reply in so much detail. As per my previous
>posting I'm looking for 1st hand experience. I also believe in keeping an
>open mind. "Science" is often abused to keep certain scientific paradigms in
>place for the sole benefit of the dignity of the 'scientific community". I'm
>definately not against allopathy or conventional medicine nor am I against
>alternative medicine. In the end it is about keeping an open mind,
>investigating the facts and the 'facts' and forming an informed opinion.
>Unfortunately the internet is also not that reliable when it comes to the
>facts....even quackwatch is extremely biased.
>
>Hopefully someone with 1st hand experience will respond.
>
>Regards

People with first-hand experience of Rife machine treatment tend to be
dead, so getting a reply might be a problem.

It is fraud. It is as simple as that. Look outside your window and see
if the sky is blue. If it is, then Rife was wrong about the way the
universe works.

I notice that you talk about open minds and allopathy. An open mind is
a good thing provided that it is not so open that your brain falls
out. And the Rife machine is definitely allopathy, according to the
person who invented the word. So, if you want to avoid allopathic
treatments, stay away from the Rife fraud.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:27:22 GMT, "franna via MedKB.com"
<u28161@uwe> wrote:

>
>Thanks for taking the effort to reply in so much detail. As per my previous
>posting I'm looking for 1st hand experience. I also believe in keeping an
>open mind. "Science" is often abused to keep certain scientific paradigms in
>place for the sole benefit of the dignity of the 'scientific community". I'm
>definately not against allopathy or conventional medicine nor am I against
>alternative medicine. In the end it is about keeping an open mind,
>investigating the facts and the 'facts' and forming an informed opinion.
>Unfortunately the internet is also not that reliable when it comes to the
>facts....even quackwatch is extremely biased.
>
>Hopefully someone with 1st hand experience will respond.
>
>Regards

There is a marked difference between an open mind and a
vacant one.

You're looking for 1st hand experience of a quack cure. Has
it occurred to you that you will get a similar response if
you request 1st hand experience of base-diving without a
parachute, or overdosing on arsenic?

Did you not read the link that Peter provided?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749 - 1832)

I'm afraid I differ completely with regards to your differentiation between a
vacant mind and an open mind. Many people can testify about being victims of
conventional medicine - Thalodimide, lobotomies,Vioxx etc. But if you
consider yourself to have an open mind - that's fine with me.

Just read package insert of the medication you use to see how dangerous
conventional medicine is - at least as dangerous as some alternative
medicines. And yet - I fully support conventional medicine with an open mind
towards any other possible treatment/remedy/cure.

Regards


Alan S wrote:
>>Thanks for taking the effort to reply in so much detail. As per my previous
>>posting I'm looking for 1st hand experience. I also believe in keeping an
>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>>Regards
>
>There is a marked difference between an open mind and a
>vacant one.
>
>You're looking for 1st hand experience of a quack cure. Has
>it occurred to you that you will get a similar response if
>you request 1st hand experience of base-diving without a
>parachute, or overdosing on arsenic?
>
>Did you not read the link that Peter provided?
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>
>There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity.
> Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749 - 1832)

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:38:40 GMT, "franna via MedKB.com"
<u28161@uwe> wrote:

>I'm afraid I differ completely with regards to your differentiation between a
>vacant mind and an open mind. Many people can testify about being victims of
>conventional medicine - Thalodimide, lobotomies,Vioxx etc. But if you
>consider yourself to have an open mind - that's fine with me.
>
>Just read package insert of the medication you use to see how dangerous
>conventional medicine is - at least as dangerous as some alternative
>medicines. And yet - I fully support conventional medicine with an open mind
>towards any other possible treatment/remedy/cure.
>
>Regards
>

You asked about a form of quack medicine that is so patently
ludicrous that it hardly bears intelligent discussion.

Now you want to argue the point over clarity of thought?

You didn't come here for opinions, you came for
confirmations, now you're piqued that you didn't get them.

The fact that conventional medicine has made some horrendous
mistakes in the past - and no doubt will continue to do so
in the future - in no way legitimizes all "alternative
medicines". Nor does the non-mainstream nature of
"alternative medicine" make it automatically bad or
dangerous. We each must use our intelligence and the filter
of our own common sense to make decisions on validity.

If you read here for a while you will find that many of us,
including myself, are not enamoured of some of the
traditional medical authorities when it comes to the dietary
recommendations for type 2 diabetes treatment. But that
doesn't mean that we consult shamans or that we don't see
our doctors. You will also find many of us are reluctant to
use medication until diet and lifestyle alternatives have
failed, but in that event the medications are re-considered
and the risks of their consequent dangers are weighed
against the dangers of non-use; thus I ended up using
metformin.

I, like you, am entitled to form my own opinions. In my
opinion any person who could seriously consider Rife therapy
to be anything other than quackery should seek psychiatric
care.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Tarascon - Chateau du Roi Rene

Hi Allan

I respect your opinion. What I do not respect is the fact that you think that
people that differ from you are lunatics and need psychiatric help. Perhaps
you too must learn to respect other opinions - even those opinions that are "
ridiculous". There are many truths out there...

Alan S wrote:
>>I'm afraid I differ completely with regards to your differentiation between a
>>vacant mind and an open mind. Many people can testify about being victims of
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>>Regards
>
>You asked about a form of quack medicine that is so patently
>ludicrous that it hardly bears intelligent discussion.
>
>Now you want to argue the point over clarity of thought?
>
>You didn't come here for opinions, you came for
>confirmations, now you're piqued that you didn't get them.
>
>The fact that conventional medicine has made some horrendous
>mistakes in the past - and no doubt will continue to do so
>in the future - in no way legitimizes all "alternative
>medicines". Nor does the non-mainstream nature of
>"alternative medicine" make it automatically bad or
>dangerous. We each must use our intelligence and the filter
>of our own common sense to make decisions on validity.
>
>If you read here for a while you will find that many of us,
>including myself, are not enamoured of some of the
>traditional medical authorities when it comes to the dietary
>recommendations for type 2 diabetes treatment. But that
>doesn't mean that we consult shamans or that we don't see
>our doctors. You will also find many of us are reluctant to
>use medication until diet and lifestyle alternatives have
>failed, but in that event the medications are re-considered
>and the risks of their consequent dangers are weighed
>against the dangers of non-use; thus I ended up using
>metformin.
>
>I, like you, am entitled to form my own opinions. In my
>opinion any person who could seriously consider Rife therapy
>to be anything other than quackery should seek psychiatric
>care.
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>--
>http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
>latest: Tarascon - Chateau du Roi Rene

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"franna via MedKB.com" <u28161@uwe> wrote:

>Hi Allan
>
>I respect your opinion. What I do not respect is the fact that you think that
>people that differ from you are lunatics and need psychiatric help. Perhaps
>you too must learn to respect other opinions - even those opinions that are "
>ridiculous". There are many truths out there...

And the Rife nonsense is not one of them.

>
>Alan S wrote:
>>>I'm afraid I differ completely with regards to your differentiation between a
>>>vacant mind and an open mind. Many people can testify about being victims of
>>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>
>>>Regards
>>
>>You asked about a form of quack medicine that is so patently
>>ludicrous that it hardly bears intelligent discussion.
>>
>>Now you want to argue the point over clarity of thought?
>>
>>You didn't come here for opinions, you came for
>>confirmations, now you're piqued that you didn't get them.
>>
>>The fact that conventional medicine has made some horrendous
>>mistakes in the past - and no doubt will continue to do so
>>in the future - in no way legitimizes all "alternative
>>medicines". Nor does the non-mainstream nature of
>>"alternative medicine" make it automatically bad or
>>dangerous. We each must use our intelligence and the filter
>>of our own common sense to make decisions on validity.
>>
>>If you read here for a while you will find that many of us,
>>including myself, are not enamoured of some of the
>>traditional medical authorities when it comes to the dietary
>>recommendations for type 2 diabetes treatment. But that
>>doesn't mean that we consult shamans or that we don't see
>>our doctors. You will also find many of us are reluctant to
>>use medication until diet and lifestyle alternatives have
>>failed, but in that event the medications are re-considered
>>and the risks of their consequent dangers are weighed
>>against the dangers of non-use; thus I ended up using
>>metformin.
>>
>>I, like you, am entitled to form my own opinions. In my
>>opinion any person who could seriously consider Rife therapy
>>to be anything other than quackery should seek psychiatric
>>care.
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>>--
>>http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
>>latest: Tarascon - Chateau du Roi Rene
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

In alt.support.diabetes on Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:33:19 GMT in Msg.#
<68319a0f33b90@uwe>, "franna via MedKB.com" <u28161@uwe> wrote:

> I respect your opinion. What I do not respect is the fact that you think that
> people that differ from you are lunatics and need psychiatric help. Perhaps
> you too must learn to respect other opinions - even those opinions that are "
> ridiculous". There are many truths out there...

It's not based on differing from you, or disagreeing with you!

But, really, this is going in a circle, so, I've been waiting to see this
come up & it has not. What about diet? Exercise? Diet plays a huge place in
healthy control for T2 diabetics. Exercise plays just as essential, if
somewhat smaller, place. Surely you don't lump Diet & Exercise, vitamins,
minerals, supplements, etc. to be a part of 'Western medicine', do you?

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franna wrote in message <681cac929448e@uwe>...
>I'm type 2 and I'm considering Rife Therapy. Any advise or personal
>experience with Rife Therapy will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>

Diabetes is a genetic disease which manifests itself in the death of beta
cells in the pancreas.

From the Rife Site:

http://www.rifeenergymedicine.com/

". . .We will present articles that describe and explain the basic
principles of "vibrational medicine" based on Dr. Royal Rife's work and
our ultra-sound technology. This is applicable to all microbial-based
illnesses, i.e. bacteria, viruses, fungi, parasites, protozoa, and other
pathogens. . . "

Diabetes has nothing to do with bacteria, viruses, fungi, parasites,
protozoa, and other pathogens. If you wish to be cured, you must grow
another pancreas.

Therefore, according to the Rife site, Rife therapy is useless.

Regards
Old Al