Save a Foot?

Short news story.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504...cNANxSU0_MWM0F

So far I have good circulation and not healing issues. I know some
aren't so lucky.

RB

On May 5, 7:10�pm, RB <R...@mars.com> wrote:
> Short news story.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504...ce;_ylt=AogS32...
>
> So far I have good circulation and not healing issues. *I know some
> aren't so lucky.
>
> RB

Interesting article and a bit ironic. Thanks for posting it.

Kurt

On Sat, 05 May 2007 21:10:49 -0500, RB <RB@mars.com> wrote:
>Short news story.
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504...cNANxSU0_MWM0F
>
>So far I have good circulation and not healing issues. I know some
>aren't so lucky.
>
>RB

Howdy RB,

Using honey or a sugar paste, used to be a common pratice in nursing
homes, for treating foot and leg ulcers, as welll as some pressure
sores that had gotten bad (stage 3 and 4). And it worked pretty much
like it's working in the news story, dead skin removed, and sugar or
honey was packed into the wound and covered with gauze. I think it was
also used due to the person being treating not having much money to
use more spendy treatments.

But I do remember seeing doctors orders to pack the wound with sugar
or honey (when I worked in a nursing homes in 1987).

It worked very well on a lot of folks (diabetic and non diabetic) and
didn't work at all for others. And for those that it didn't work on,
other treatments were tried until something worked and the wounds
healed.

I remember seeing one nursing home client with a very large and old
pressure ulcer (you could see her tail bone) had it for over a year
before she came to the nursing home). Took a few months to resolve it,
but as far as I know the only thing that was put on (actually in it)
was a paste made of sugar.

On Tue, 08 May 2007 04:05:48 GMT, Blkbear <blkbear@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 05 May 2007 21:10:49 -0500, RB <RB@mars.com> wrote:
>>Short news story.
>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504...cNANxSU0_MWM0F
>>
>>So far I have good circulation and not healing issues. I know some
>>aren't so lucky.
>>
>>RB
>
>Howdy RB,
>
>Using honey or a sugar paste, used to be a common pratice in nursing
>homes, for treating foot and leg ulcers, as welll as some pressure
>sores that had gotten bad (stage 3 and 4). And it worked pretty much
>like it's working in the news story, dead skin removed, and sugar or
>honey was packed into the wound and covered with gauze. I think it was
>also used due to the person being treating not having much money to
>use more spendy treatments.
>
>But I do remember seeing doctors orders to pack the wound with sugar
>or honey (when I worked in a nursing homes in 1987).
>
>It worked very well on a lot of folks (diabetic and non diabetic) and
>didn't work at all for others. And for those that it didn't work on,
>other treatments were tried until something worked and the wounds
>healed.
>
>I remember seeing one nursing home client with a very large and old
>pressure ulcer (you could see her tail bone) had it for over a year
>before she came to the nursing home). Took a few months to resolve it,
>but as far as I know the only thing that was put on (actually in it)
>was a paste made of sugar.

The honey story was popular in my "Grandma's" time.
It would be nice if some agency would develop a Lab
where the proper tests were done to find the cause
of foot or leg lesions.

IF-----even a half vast effort had been done in my case,
I might not have been in a wheel chair for the past 9
years.

But we speculate and guess until the problems degenerate to
the stage where the loss of a limb is irreversible.

The technology does exist. May not be profitable to
implement.

Honey is not a susstitute for real medical care. The problem is
finding real medcal care. Money gets in the way.

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> On Sat, 05 May 2007 21:10:49 -0500, RB <RB@mars.com> wrote:
>> Short news story.
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504...cNANxSU0_MWM0F
>>
>> So far I have good circulation and not healing issues. I know some
>> aren't so lucky.
>>

Honey has been in the spotlight for the past few years for its
antibiotic properties: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458834 is

Honey in the Management of Infections
from Surgical Infections

from which this is extracted:

"Necrotizing Soft Tissue Infections

Spencer E. Efem of the University Teaching Hospital in Calabar, Nigeria,
has published a series of papers on the antimicrobial and wound healing
effects of honey. He first published a series of 59 patients with wounds
and nonhealing ulcers, 80% of which had failed to heal with conventional
therapy for periods of one month to two years[11]. He showed that wounds
which initially cultured positive for a variety of organisms were
sterile at one week, and that 58 of the wounds went on to heal rapidly,
with separation of eschar, diminished edema, and rapid
reepithelialization. His method was to apply 15-30 mL of unprocessed
honey to the wound daily, after cleaning the wound with normal saline."

Some have said it's the pH, or the hygroscopic action, or that there is
actually a natural antibiotic in it.

Jim

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> On Tue, 08 May 2007 04:05:48 GMT, Blkbear <blkbear@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 May 2007 21:10:49 -0500, RB <RB@mars.com> wrote:
>>>Short news story.
>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504...cNANxSU0_MWM0F
>>>
>>>So far I have good circulation and not healing issues. I know some
>>>aren't so lucky.
>>>
>>>RB
>>
>>Howdy RB,
>>
>>Using honey or a sugar paste, used to be a common pratice in nursing
>>homes, for treating foot and leg ulcers, as welll as some pressure
>>sores that had gotten bad (stage 3 and 4). And it worked pretty much
>>like it's working in the news story, dead skin removed, and sugar or
>>honey was packed into the wound and covered with gauze. I think it was
>>also used due to the person being treating not having much money to
>>use more spendy treatments.
>>
>>But I do remember seeing doctors orders to pack the wound with sugar
>>or honey (when I worked in a nursing homes in 1987).
>>
>>It worked very well on a lot of folks (diabetic and non diabetic) and
>>didn't work at all for others. And for those that it didn't work on,
>>other treatments were tried until something worked and the wounds
>>healed.
>>
>>I remember seeing one nursing home client with a very large and old
>>pressure ulcer (you could see her tail bone) had it for over a year
>>before she came to the nursing home). Took a few months to resolve it,
>>but as far as I know the only thing that was put on (actually in it)
>>was a paste made of sugar.
>
> The honey story was popular in my "Grandma's" time.
> It would be nice if some agency would develop a Lab
> where the proper tests were done to find the cause
> of foot or leg lesions.
>
> IF-----even a half vast effort had been done in my case,
> I might not have been in a wheel chair for the past 9
> years.
>
> But we speculate and guess until the problems degenerate to
> the stage where the loss of a limb is irreversible.
>
> The technology does exist. May not be profitable to
> implement.
>
> Honey is not a susstitute for real medical care. The problem is
> finding real medcal care. Money gets in the way.
>


well actually Honey is a REAL medical care. friday on the tv news
there was a clip about one of the wound care clinics at the Cleveland
Clinic going back to using Honey to care for open wounds, leg ulcers
and such. They stated it was used in the past and worked well. After
studing the effect Honey has on open wounds they said they found that
it actually killed the bateria and helped with new skin growth. It's also
a much cheaper treatment then high end antibotic creams that work the
same, when many that are in need of this treatment are without medical
insurance or money to pay for it.

RK, t1