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Old 12-28-2007, 08:40 PM
Andy
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Default So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.

So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.

Total Carb: 5g
Dietary fiber: 6g
Sugar: 0
Protein 2

How can total carbs be less than the listed dietary fiber?

Is this a flagrant mislabel?

Andy


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Old 12-28-2007, 08:40 PM
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x-no-archive: yes

Andy wrote:
> So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.
>
> Total Carb: 5g
> Dietary fiber: 6g
> Sugar: 0
> Protein 2
>
> How can total carbs be less than the listed dietary fiber?
>
> Is this a flagrant mislabel?
>
>


Yes.

The USDA lists 7.76 grams for frozen artichoke (but doesn't specify
hearts, I've never seen a whole globe frozen) and 3.9 grams of fiber.

Susan
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:06 PM
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Susan said...

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Andy wrote:
>> So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.
>>
>> Total Carb: 5g
>> Dietary fiber: 6g
>> Sugar: 0
>> Protein 2
>>
>> How can total carbs be less than the listed dietary fiber?
>>
>> Is this a flagrant mislabel?
>>
>>

>
> Yes.
>
> The USDA lists 7.76 grams for frozen artichoke (but doesn't specify
> hearts, I've never seen a whole globe frozen) and 3.9 grams of fiber.
>
> Susan



Susan,

Thank you!

I even called TJs and had them fetch a bag to see if the label was different
but it was the same.

I asked Rick how can you find out. It's distributed by trader joes and is a
product of Peru. I gave them my name and phone number and they said they'd
get there crack nutritionist right on it. [sigh]

Andy

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Old 12-28-2007, 10:03 PM
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In article <Xns9A14A04B0EBE3cotd@216.196.97.136>, Andy <q> wrote:

> Susan said...
>
> > x-no-archive: yes
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >> So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.
> >>
> >> Total Carb: 5g
> >> Dietary fiber: 6g
> >> Sugar: 0
> >> Protein 2
> >>
> >> How can total carbs be less than the listed dietary fiber?
> >>
> >> Is this a flagrant mislabel?
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > The USDA lists 7.76 grams for frozen artichoke (but doesn't specify
> > hearts, I've never seen a whole globe frozen) and 3.9 grams of fiber.
> >
> > Susan

>
>
> Susan,
>
> Thank you!
>
> I even called TJs and had them fetch a bag to see if the label was different
> but it was the same.
>
> I asked Rick how can you find out. It's distributed by trader joes and is a
> product of Peru. I gave them my name and phone number and they said they'd
> get there crack nutritionist right on it. [sigh]
>
> Andy


Lots of places outside the US list fiber carbs separately from total
carbs, so you can get a fiber amount greater than a carbs amount for
very fibrous items. In those cases the carbs is carbs not counting
fiber. Add carbs and fiber to get total carbs.

Priscilla
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:02 AM
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"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns9A14986A9E482cotd@216.196.97.136...
> So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.
>
> Total Carb: 5g
> Dietary fiber: 6g
> Sugar: 0
> Protein 2
>
> How can total carbs be less than the listed dietary fiber?
>
> Is this a flagrant mislabel?
>
> Andy
>
>
> --



The can of artichoke hearts that I have say.
1/2 cup =
6g total carbs,
Dietary fiber - 4g
sugars 1g.

Brand name is Roland.
the sodium for each serving is pretty high at 420
good news is there is no fat and only 35 calories per serving.

tom


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Old 12-29-2007, 12:35 AM
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Gantlet said...

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> "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:Xns9A14986A9E482cotd@216.196.97.136...
>> So I'm entering nutrition for artichoke hearts from TJs.
>>
>> Total Carb: 5g
>> Dietary fiber: 6g
>> Sugar: 0
>> Protein 2
>>
>> How can total carbs be less than the listed dietary fiber?
>>
>> Is this a flagrant mislabel?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> --

>
>
> The can of artichoke hearts that I have say.
> 1/2 cup =
> 6g total carbs,
> Dietary fiber - 4g
> sugars 1g.
>
> Brand name is Roland.
> the sodium for each serving is pretty high at 420
> good news is there is no fat and only 35 calories per serving.
>
> tom



tom,

TJ's frozen artichoke hearts let you have 3/4 cup (85 grams) for the
figures I stated. Missed mentioning Sodium: 50g. Sorry.

Flash frozen is more nutritious than canned. I think that's already been
discussed, maybe here or another newsgroup.

Best,

Andy

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Old 12-29-2007, 01:04 AM
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Priscilla Ballou <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:

> Lots of places outside the US list fiber carbs separately from total
> carbs, so you can get a fiber amount greater than a carbs amount for
> very fibrous items. In those cases the carbs is carbs not counting
> fiber. Add carbs and fiber to get total carbs.


By the logic of the US carb labelling system sawdust is very high
carb. Fortunately it has a very low GI :-)

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Old 12-29-2007, 06:03 AM
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:49:39 -0500, Priscilla Ballou
<vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:

>Lots of places outside the US list fiber carbs separately from total
>carbs, so you can get a fiber amount greater than a carbs amount for
>very fibrous items. In those cases the carbs is carbs not counting
>fiber. Add carbs and fiber to get total carbs.
>
>Priscilla


G'day G'day Priscilla,

Thank you. You have provided a very simple explanation that fits
the particular situation. The artichoke hearts are imported from
Peru. Peru apparently follows the common pattern of recording
digestible carbohydrate and fibre separately.

To a purchaser in the US used to the US system of including fibre in
the total carbohydrate it can look very, very weird as it does in this
case.

"Hey, wait a minute, what is going on here" is a very normal response.

Is it flagrant mislabeling? No.

There is nothing to be gained by claiming more fibre than the total
carbohydrate. If anything it would be off putting and lose sales.

IMHO there is a lot to be learnt from such situations.

When things look weird there is probably a simple explanation such as
the misunderstandings that occur when two people use the same words
but are speaking different languages.


Firstly, looking for the least emotive explanation will often arrive
at the correct solution most quickly. Wes has on occasions posted a
delightful little dictum that clearly expresses the point I'm trying
to make.

Secondly, it illustrates one of the great virtues of ASD. With few
exceptions people are more interested in contributing to a collective
answer rather than in being the person with the correct answer.
After a half dozen or so people have posted on a particular thread
enough information has been collected to make the correct answer easy
for all to see.

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