Sometimes I feel like I have the most severe type II ever

Sometimes when I read this group and other people talk of controlling
their diabetes with diet and exercise only, I get kind of jealous.
And when they talk of regularly having good fasting numbers I am
jealous. I am plagued with difficulties on trying to get a good
fasting blood glucose level. That definitely adds to me wondering if
I have some autoimmune part to my diabetes as well as the insulin
resistance.

When I went to the doctor lately I didn't end up talking to him about
whether I might have an autoimmune component to my diabetes or not.
What happened is I had asked to be forwarded to an endocrinologist,
but they sent me to an internist instead which threw me for a loop. I
thought there had been some mixup when I got there, but what had
happened was that the nearest endocrinologist who took MediCal was a 6
hour drive away.

So, I did talk to the internist about wanting Byetta, but didn't
figure he would be an expert on the types of diabetes, so I didn't
even bring it up.

I want to post my history with diabetes to see if anyone has any
thoughts on it. At 30 years old, I was normal weight. I quit smoking
then and got a sit down job instead of the waitressing I had been
doing up until that point. I packed on the pounds, and within the
next 3.5 years had gained 100 pounds. I went on a motor home vacation
and during the vacation I had what I now think was pancreatitis. I
didn't go to the doctor for it, but it was pretty bad. I had awful
stomach pains and was forever leaning forward in a crouched position
to keep the pain better. It passed after a few days. Then 4 days
later I started drinking and peeing like it was going out of style. I
was actually stuck at a KAO campground in a cabin while our motor home
was having it's transmission fixed, so I just drank and peed. 3 days
later I got home (good thing I was in a motor home. If I had to stop
and pee as many times as I needed to we would have never got home) and
by then my eyes were blurry. I went to the doctor, and had a random
blood glucose of 485 mg/dl. The doctor thought I would just need
insulin at first, and then diet/pills would control it, but that was
almost never so. I did go a few weeks without any insulin on
Metformin and an atkins level induction diet, but my fasting levels
were still high, so I gave it up and went on insulin in addition to my
Metformin. You may see me say in other threads, that I always needed
insulin, and that is just easier to say than to always say I did have
a few weeks that I could survive without it, but was still not at
normal levels.

Over the next 9 years I had 3 pregnancies and gained more weight which
made me require more insulin, but then I lost 80 pounds (which has me
at 60 pounds overweight now), and my insulin needs are significantly
up from what I first needed despite being 40 pounds lighter than when
I was first diagnosed with diabetes. I am 9 years older than at
diagnosis.

Now, I can't help but wonder if that pancreatitis was related to me
getting diabetes since the timing was right, but who knows.
Everything I read said acute pancreatitis does not usually cause
diabetes. I also figure that if I had had type II diabetes, I
couldn't have had it for too long before I was diagnosed because I did
not start becoming overweight until 3.5 years before I was diagnosed.
And the blurry vision when I got diabetes points to sudden onset too I
think because I think the blurr is caused by the rapid changes in
blood glucose. BTW my eyes stayed blurry for a few weeks after my
blood glucose levels got normalized. I also recently got diabetic
ketoacidosis when I got Septicemia. Now, I have read that type IIs
can get diabetic ketoacidosis under the stress of extreme illness, and
the septicemia was extreme. It nearly killed me. I was put on manual
life support immediately upon the paramedics getting to me. My blood
sugar was around 700 with the septicemia and DKA.

As far as type II related stuff, my cholesterol is not too bad except
for the triglycerides, but I just got on synthroid, so the doctor said
the cholesterol profile may still yet improve from the synthroid. I
have mild hypertension of about 130/90 without my lisinopril.

I have 2 autoimmune disorders: low thyroid and low platelets. There
are autoimmune diseases on both sides of the family. My paternal
grandmother also got diabetes at 54 years old, but she got it right
after a car accident. My paternal grandmother, my father and I all
had/have metabolic syndrome, but my dad never got diabetes yet. He is
74. No other further away relatives got diabetes, but some had/have
metabolic syndrome. I am mostly postulating that they had/have it
based on their apple type obesity, but I don't know for sure.

I probably am never gonna know for sure what type of diabetes I have,
but still I value the input of the experts here.

In addition to that, if anybody else has pretty severe adult onset
diabetes where they have always had to take insulin and have to take
pretty high amounts of insulin, I would love to hear your stories to
commiserate.

KC

neighbor Kathy Clayton (KC) wrote:
>
> Sometimes when I read this group and other people talk of controlling
> their diabetes with diet and exercise only, I get kind of jealous.
> And when they talk of regularly having good fasting numbers I am
> jealous. I am plagued with difficulties on trying to get a good
> fasting blood glucose level. That definitely adds to me wondering if
> I have some autoimmune part to my diabetes as well as the insulin
> resistance.
>
> When I went to the doctor lately I didn't end up talking to him about
> whether I might have an autoimmune component to my diabetes or not.
> What happened is I had asked to be forwarded to an endocrinologist,
> but they sent me to an internist instead which threw me for a loop. I
> thought there had been some mixup when I got there, but what had
> happened was that the nearest endocrinologist who took MediCal was a 6
> hour drive away.
>
> So, I did talk to the internist about wanting Byetta, but didn't
> figure he would be an expert on the types of diabetes, so I didn't
> even bring it up.
>
> I want to post my history with diabetes to see if anyone has any
> thoughts on it. At 30 years old, I was normal weight. I quit smoking
> then and got a sit down job instead of the waitressing I had been
> doing up until that point. I packed on the pounds, and within the
> next 3.5 years had gained 100 pounds.

The quitting smoking and the job change were apparently both very good
for you because you experienced a tremendous increase in appetite
(hunger).

What is bad is the lie that satan has placed in each of our hearts
that "hunger is bad."

>From this lie comes the compulsion (loss of free will) to overeat.

> I went on a motor home vacation
> and during the vacation I had what I now think was pancreatitis. I
> didn't go to the doctor for it, but it was pretty bad. I had awful
> stomach pains and was forever leaning forward in a crouched position
> to keep the pain better. It passed after a few days. Then 4 days
> later I started drinking and peeing like it was going out of style. I
> was actually stuck at a KAO campground in a cabin while our motor home
> was having it's transmission fixed, so I just drank and peed. 3 days
> later I got home (good thing I was in a motor home. If I had to stop
> and pee as many times as I needed to we would have never got home) and
> by then my eyes were blurry. I went to the doctor, and had a random
> blood glucose of 485 mg/dl. The doctor thought I would just need
> insulin at first, and then diet/pills would control it, but that was
> almost never so. I did go a few weeks without any insulin on
> Metformin and an atkins level induction diet, but my fasting levels
> were still high, so I gave it up and went on insulin in addition to my
> Metformin. You may see me say in other threads, that I always needed
> insulin, and that is just easier to say than to always say I did have
> a few weeks that I could survive without it, but was still not at
> normal levels.
>
> Over the next 9 years I had 3 pregnancies and gained more weight which
> made me require more insulin, but then I lost 80 pounds (which has me
> at 60 pounds overweight now), and my insulin needs are significantly
> up from what I first needed despite being 40 pounds lighter than when
> I was first diagnosed with diabetes. I am 9 years older than at
> diagnosis.

Because of your low-carbing, it is possible the the 40 lbs lighter is
muscle/bone rather than the visceral adipose tissue (VAT) whose loss
would have lowered your insulin resistance thereby lowering your
insulin requirements.

> Now, I can't help but wonder if that pancreatitis was related to me
> getting diabetes since the timing was right, but who knows.
> Everything I read said acute pancreatitis does not usually cause
> diabetes. I also figure that if I had had type II diabetes, I
> couldn't have had it for too long before I was diagnosed because I did
> not start becoming overweight until 3.5 years before I was diagnosed.
> And the blurry vision when I got diabetes points to sudden onset too I
> think because I think the blurr is caused by the rapid changes in
> blood glucose. BTW my eyes stayed blurry for a few weeks after my
> blood glucose levels got normalized. I also recently got diabetic
> ketoacidosis when I got Septicemia. Now, I have read that type IIs
> can get diabetic ketoacidosis under the stress of extreme illness, and
> the septicemia was extreme. It nearly killed me. I was put on manual
> life support immediately upon the paramedics getting to me. My blood
> sugar was around 700 with the septicemia and DKA.
>
> As far as type II related stuff, my cholesterol is not too bad except
> for the triglycerides, but I just got on synthroid, so the doctor said
> the cholesterol profile may still yet improve from the synthroid. I
> have mild hypertension of about 130/90 without my lisinopril.
>
> I have 2 autoimmune disorders: low thyroid and low platelets. There
> are autoimmune diseases on both sides of the family. My paternal
> grandmother also got diabetes at 54 years old, but she got it right
> after a car accident. My paternal grandmother, my father and I all
> had/have metabolic syndrome, but my dad never got diabetes yet. He is
> 74. No other further away relatives got diabetes, but some had/have
> metabolic syndrome. I am mostly postulating that they had/have it
> based on their apple type obesity, but I don't know for sure.
>
> I probably am never gonna know for sure what type of diabetes I have,
> but still I value the input of the experts here.
>
> In addition to that, if anybody else has pretty severe adult onset
> diabetes where they have always had to take insulin and have to take
> pretty high amounts of insulin, I would love to hear your stories to
> commiserate.

May reading the following help you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

I cant speak to your specific usues with yer meds etc ..but i can say i
doubt anyones got perfect control..so dont feel bad..i bet the people who
can control with diet and exercise only are a rare lot and its a time may
catch up to them so that later on they may still need meds in the future.
I see it as a process and not somthign you can beat..yet.
For example a guard at work conrols with diet and exercise but anytime he
gets a cold or flu he shoots up like 300..so everyone abilty to maintain so
called perfection is not infinite.
Just do yer best is all you can do and not let it stress ya which ironically
can mess ya up..lol

KROM

"KC" <kathy.claytor@sun.com> wrote in message
news:1182594997.932463.165120@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Sometimes when I read this group and other people talk of controlling
> their diabetes with diet and exercise only, I get kind of jealous.
> And when they talk of regularly having good fasting numbers I am
> jealous. I am plagued with difficulties on trying to get a good
> fasting blood glucose level. That definitely adds to me wondering if
> I have some autoimmune part to my diabetes as well as the insulin
> resistance.
>
> When I went to the doctor lately I didn't end up talking to him about
> whether I might have an autoimmune component to my diabetes or not.
> What happened is I had asked to be forwarded to an endocrinologist,
> but they sent me to an internist instead which threw me for a loop. I
> thought there had been some mixup when I got there, but what had
> happened was that the nearest endocrinologist who took MediCal was a 6
> hour drive away.
>
> So, I did talk to the internist about wanting Byetta, but didn't
> figure he would be an expert on the types of diabetes, so I didn't
> even bring it up.
>
> I want to post my history with diabetes to see if anyone has any
> thoughts on it. At 30 years old, I was normal weight. I quit smoking
> then and got a sit down job instead of the waitressing I had been
> doing up until that point. I packed on the pounds, and within the
> next 3.5 years had gained 100 pounds. I went on a motor home vacation
> and during the vacation I had what I now think was pancreatitis. I
> didn't go to the doctor for it, but it was pretty bad. I had awful
> stomach pains and was forever leaning forward in a crouched position
> to keep the pain better. It passed after a few days. Then 4 days
> later I started drinking and peeing like it was going out of style. I
> was actually stuck at a KAO campground in a cabin while our motor home
> was having it's transmission fixed, so I just drank and peed. 3 days
> later I got home (good thing I was in a motor home. If I had to stop
> and pee as many times as I needed to we would have never got home) and
> by then my eyes were blurry. I went to the doctor, and had a random
> blood glucose of 485 mg/dl. The doctor thought I would just need
> insulin at first, and then diet/pills would control it, but that was
> almost never so. I did go a few weeks without any insulin on
> Metformin and an atkins level induction diet, but my fasting levels
> were still high, so I gave it up and went on insulin in addition to my
> Metformin. You may see me say in other threads, that I always needed
> insulin, and that is just easier to say than to always say I did have
> a few weeks that I could survive without it, but was still not at
> normal levels.
>
> Over the next 9 years I had 3 pregnancies and gained more weight which
> made me require more insulin, but then I lost 80 pounds (which has me
> at 60 pounds overweight now), and my insulin needs are significantly
> up from what I first needed despite being 40 pounds lighter than when
> I was first diagnosed with diabetes. I am 9 years older than at
> diagnosis.
>
> Now, I can't help but wonder if that pancreatitis was related to me
> getting diabetes since the timing was right, but who knows.
> Everything I read said acute pancreatitis does not usually cause
> diabetes. I also figure that if I had had type II diabetes, I
> couldn't have had it for too long before I was diagnosed because I did
> not start becoming overweight until 3.5 years before I was diagnosed.
> And the blurry vision when I got diabetes points to sudden onset too I
> think because I think the blurr is caused by the rapid changes in
> blood glucose. BTW my eyes stayed blurry for a few weeks after my
> blood glucose levels got normalized. I also recently got diabetic
> ketoacidosis when I got Septicemia. Now, I have read that type IIs
> can get diabetic ketoacidosis under the stress of extreme illness, and
> the septicemia was extreme. It nearly killed me. I was put on manual
> life support immediately upon the paramedics getting to me. My blood
> sugar was around 700 with the septicemia and DKA.
>
> As far as type II related stuff, my cholesterol is not too bad except
> for the triglycerides, but I just got on synthroid, so the doctor said
> the cholesterol profile may still yet improve from the synthroid. I
> have mild hypertension of about 130/90 without my lisinopril.
>
> I have 2 autoimmune disorders: low thyroid and low platelets. There
> are autoimmune diseases on both sides of the family. My paternal
> grandmother also got diabetes at 54 years old, but she got it right
> after a car accident. My paternal grandmother, my father and I all
> had/have metabolic syndrome, but my dad never got diabetes yet. He is
> 74. No other further away relatives got diabetes, but some had/have
> metabolic syndrome. I am mostly postulating that they had/have it
> based on their apple type obesity, but I don't know for sure.
>
> I probably am never gonna know for sure what type of diabetes I have,
> but still I value the input of the experts here.
>
> In addition to that, if anybody else has pretty severe adult onset
> diabetes where they have always had to take insulin and have to take
> pretty high amounts of insulin, I would love to hear your stories to
> commiserate.
>
> KC
>

In article <1182600357.736851.17630@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>,
love11@thetruth.com says...
> May reading the following help you:

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 03:36:37 -0700, KC <kathy.claytor@sun.com> wrote:

>Now, I can't help but wonder if that pancreatitis was related to me
>getting diabetes since the timing was right, but who knows.
>Everything I read said acute pancreatitis does not usually cause
>diabetes. I also figure that if I had had type II diabetes, I
>couldn't have had it for too long before I was diagnosed because I did
>not start becoming overweight until 3.5 years before I was diagnosed.
>And the blurry vision when I got diabetes points to sudden onset too I
>think because I think the blurr is caused by the rapid changes in
>blood glucose. BTW my eyes stayed blurry for a few weeks after my
>blood glucose levels got normalized. I also recently got diabetic
>ketoacidosis when I got Septicemia. Now, I have read that type IIs
>can get diabetic ketoacidosis under the stress of extreme illness, and
>the septicemia was extreme. It nearly killed me. I was put on manual
>life support immediately upon the paramedics getting to me. My blood
>sugar was around 700 with the septicemia and DKA.


Thanks for sharing, KC... Sounds like you have had your share of the
ordeal of diabetes.

I hope things are better for you these days....

Will, T2

I've never had what is considered to be ideal control, and my fasting
numbers have always been a problem too. When I was diagnosed I had a
fasting of 292, and the diabetes nurse that took over my care told me
that she believes I had probably had diabetes for several years at
that point, since I was already having problems with my feet. You
could have had it for several years too, which adds to the problem.
Others can speak to the rest of your post better than me, but just
wanted you to know that you're not alone. :-)

Cheri


KC wrote in message
<1182594997.932463.165120@i13g2000prf.googlegroups .com>...
>Sometimes when I read this group and other people talk of controlling
>their diabetes with diet and exercise only, I get kind of jealous.
>And when they talk of regularly having good fasting numbers I am
>jealous. I am plagued with difficulties on trying to get a good
>fasting blood glucose level. That definitely adds to me wondering if
>I have some autoimmune part to my diabetes as well as the insulin
>resistance.

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 03:36:37 -0700, KC <kathy.claytor@sun.com> wrote:

>I have 2 autoimmune disorders: low thyroid and low platelets.

Wouldn't surprise me if you had 3; that certainly doesn't sound like
either straight T1 or T2! Thanks for sharing your story.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Jun 23, 3:36 am, KC <kathy.clay...@sun.com> wrote:
> Sometimes when I read this group and other people talk of controlling
> their diabetes with diet and exercise only, I get kind of jealous.
> And when they talk of regularly having good fasting numbers I am
> jealous. I am plagued with difficulties on trying to get a good
> fasting blood glucose level. That definitely adds to me wondering if
> I have some autoimmune part to my diabetes as well as the insulin
> resistance.
>
> When I went to the doctor lately I didn't end up talking to him about
> whether I might have an autoimmune component to my diabetes or not.
> What happened is I had asked to be forwarded to an endocrinologist,
> but they sent me to an internist instead which threw me for a loop. I
> thought there had been some mixup when I got there, but what had
> happened was that the nearest endocrinologist who took MediCal was a 6
> hour drive away.
>
> So, I did talk to the internist about wanting Byetta, but didn't
> figure he would be an expert on the types of diabetes, so I didn't
> even bring it up.
>
> I want to post my history with diabetes to see if anyone has any
> thoughts on it. At 30 years old, I was normal weight. I quit smoking
> then and got a sit down job instead of the waitressing I had been
> doing up until that point. I packed on the pounds, and within the
> next 3.5 years had gained 100 pounds. I went on a motor home vacation
> and during the vacation I had what I now think was pancreatitis. I
> didn't go to the doctor for it, but it was pretty bad. I had awful
> stomach pains and was forever leaning forward in a crouched position
> to keep the pain better. It passed after a few days. Then 4 days
> later I started drinking and peeing like it was going out of style. I
> was actually stuck at a KAO campground in a cabin while our motor home
> was having it's transmission fixed, so I just drank and peed. 3 days
> later I got home (good thing I was in a motor home. If I had to stop
> and pee as many times as I needed to we would have never got home) and
> by then my eyes were blurry. I went to the doctor, and had a random
> blood glucose of 485 mg/dl. The doctor thought I would just need
> insulin at first, and then diet/pills would control it, but that was
> almost never so. I did go a few weeks without any insulin on
> Metformin and an atkins level induction diet, but my fasting levels
> were still high, so I gave it up and went on insulin in addition to my
> Metformin. You may see me say in other threads, that I always needed
> insulin, and that is just easier to say than to always say I did have
> a few weeks that I could survive without it, but was still not at
> normal levels.
>
> Over the next 9 years I had 3 pregnancies and gained more weight which
> made me require more insulin, but then I lost 80 pounds (which has me
> at 60 pounds overweight now), and my insulin needs are significantly
> up from what I first needed despite being 40 pounds lighter than when
> I was first diagnosed with diabetes. I am 9 years older than at
> diagnosis.
>
> Now, I can't help but wonder if that pancreatitis was related to me
> getting diabetes since the timing was right, but who knows.
> Everything I read said acute pancreatitis does not usually cause
> diabetes. I also figure that if I had had type II diabetes, I
> couldn't have had it for too long before I was diagnosed because I did
> not start becoming overweight until 3.5 years before I was diagnosed.
> And the blurry vision when I got diabetes points to sudden onset too I
> think because I think the blurr is caused by the rapid changes in
> blood glucose. BTW my eyes stayed blurry for a few weeks after my
> blood glucose levels got normalized. I also recently got diabetic
> ketoacidosis when I got Septicemia. Now, I have read that type IIs
> can get diabetic ketoacidosis under the stress of extreme illness, and
> the septicemia was extreme. It nearly killed me. I was put on manual
> life support immediately upon the paramedics getting to me. My blood
> sugar was around 700 with the septicemia and DKA.
>
> As far as type II related stuff, my cholesterol is not too bad except
> for the triglycerides, but I just got on synthroid, so the doctor said
> the cholesterol profile may still yet improve from the synthroid. I
> have mild hypertension of about 130/90 without my lisinopril.
>
> I have 2 autoimmune disorders: low thyroid and low platelets. There
> are autoimmune diseases on both sides of the family. My paternal
> grandmother also got diabetes at 54 years old, but she got it right
> after a car accident. My paternal grandmother, my father and I all
> had/have metabolic syndrome, but my dad never got diabetes yet. He is
> 74. No other further away relatives got diabetes, but some had/have
> metabolic syndrome. I am mostly postulating that they had/have it
> based on their apple type obesity, but I don't know for sure.
>
> I probably am never gonna know for sure what type of diabetes I have,
> but still I value the input of the experts here.
>
> In addition to that, if anybody else has pretty severe adult onset
> diabetes where they have always had to take insulin and have to take
> pretty high amounts of insulin, I would love to hear your stories to
> commiserate.
>
> KC

Hi KC,

Given your other autoimmune disorders, it's reasonable to wonder about
a an autoimmune connection with the diabetes too. I recommend that
you google LADA--latent autoimmune diabetes in adults. From the
reading I've done, it presents as being more severe than Type 2, but
not as severe as Type 1.

It's unfortunate that you didn't give the internist a chance. While
an endocrinologist would be the top specialist for diabetes, an
internist has a very deep education in treating chronic illnesses, and
diabetes definitely falls into that category. In fact, the internist
might actually have a greater appreciation for juggling multiple
health issues than the endocrinologist because his knowledge is a bit
less specialized, but will also include issues such as heart disease,
platelet disorders, etc., which the endocrinologist may not delve
into, because those do not fit within his/her specialized knowledge.
I met some excellent internists during my stint as a lab tech.

As for your possible pancreatic attack, another possibility is the
gallbladder, specifically gallstones. Gallbladder attacks can be
incredibly severe. So, I wouldn't automatically assume it was the
pancreas.

Best regards,
Michelle C., t2
diet & exercise

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:40:19 -0000, "Michelle C."
<bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote:

>As for your possible pancreatic attack, another possibility is the
>gallbladder, specifically gallstones. Gallbladder attacks can be
>incredibly severe. So, I wouldn't automatically assume it was the
>pancreas.


I don't think I have ever felt such severe pain as I experienced when
I had gallbladder trouble in the 80s.... After they took it out, the
surgeon handed me a jar of what looked like black gravel.... There
were 31 gallstones there.

The thing about gallstones is that they don't go away. If a person has
a gallbladder attack, and the pain seems to go away, or subside, it
will always recur....

Will, T2

KC, you sure do have a story. I was going to comment that far more
people with diabetes control it with diet , medication and exercise than
those that do it with just diet and exercse. My diagnosis was at 170 so
I have never had numbers like you experienced

I diet and take byetta and metformin. I go on exercise binges but
unfortunately I havent had the desire for a long time.\
Loretta

KC - my story is slightly different to yours but I thought you may want to
hear it !!
Some people already know it here !!

Basically after years of suffering the life-threatening illness "Brittle
Asthma" and taking high doseages of steroid tablets for over 12 yrs or more
I became diabetic last August 2006 with a bang !!

My sugars were sky high and I was very overweight !!
But my rocky road of health and diabetes led me to do from diet and
metformin to lantus in weeks then from lantus and metformin to lantus,
novorapid and met in about 6 to 8 weeks !!

Then I had an urgent referral to an endo last december (I am in UK) and he
put me on basal-bolus which I defintely needed but since then due to issues
with lantus pens and lantus itself I swapped to Levemir !!

My doseages to me seem extreme - my total daily dose is 270units now and the
amount scares me but the endo restarted me on metformin recently (thursday)
and has said if I cant stomach that then can hace pioglitazone (Actos) which
would reduce my insulin by 1/4 to 1/2 of what it is now !!

So dont know if you count me as severe or not but I have type 2 diabetes
complicated by other medical issues and 30+ medications (34+ more like now)
and alot cause sugars issues and am on hogh doseages of Levemir and
novorapid !!

If you want to chat ya can email me !!

Luv
Cloudedbrains



"KC" <kathy.claytor@sun.com> wrote in message
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>
> In addition to that, if anybody else has pretty severe adult onset
> diabetes where they have always had to take insulin and have to take
> pretty high amounts of insulin, I would love to hear your stories to
> commiserate.
>
> KC
>