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Old 01-04-2008, 10:09 AM
DarkSentinel
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Boy is somebody going to get sued!!!

Let's give a little background first. I'm on 100% disability and as a
result get a check every month from Social Security. Damn well BETTER after
all those years of paying in, and Uncle Sugar tearing my ass up in taxes
when I was pulling $90K+ a year... Anyway, I digress. This also means I
automatically qualify for Medicare, and as a trickle down Medicaid for
whatever state I happen to reside in. The coverage state to state varies
obviously but you get the basic picture. Ok, now to throw more of a monkey
wrench into the picture, I also get Medicare Part D (drug coverage). The
drug benefit is not part of the 'Original' Medicare program, which includes
Part A for hospital care Part B for physician, outpatient care and durable
medical equipment. The benefit is administered by private insurance plans
that are reimbursed by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).
Everybody sufficiently confused yet?

Ok, at the time I get my Medicare, you have to choose a carrier for your
prescription drug plan. That's cool, can do that. Well just so happens that
Humana has this big booth in Wally World. How convenient I think, and talk
to the rep, and sign up. Guy was totally helpful, and goes out of his way to
get me set up. Even says hey, we'll get you set up for the Humana Gold
Choice Medicare Advantage plan. We'll take care of EVERYTHING. Oh how nice I
think, have enough crap to deal with, and if they can take some of it off of
my hands, outstanding. Now, herein lies the rub. A MAJOR rub. Unbeknownst to
me, because I have Medicaid (TennCare), I am what's termed "Full Dual
Coverage Eligible". What this means IS, in a nutshell I am not supposed to
have ANY out of pocket medical expenses other than co-pay on my medicine.
Which for 2008 is $3.35 for brand name drugs, and $1.15 for generics. No
co-pays at ANY doctor, whether primary or specialist. Nothing for any of my
testing supplies at ALL including strips. Nada.

Now, here is where the suing part comes in. Even though Tennessee never
informed me of this fact, they just roll me over each year, Humana DID have
this information, and chose to mislead me so they could get THEIR little
piece of the pie. The reason I NOW know all of this is because I moved to
Nevada, and get a letter from Humana saying I moved out that plan area, and
have to sign up for a plan here. Ok, I think, that's fair enough, and call
Humana. Well they start giving me some gibberish about pricing tiers,
demographics, and other assorted horseshit. I'm like look, Medicare is
Medicare, and stuff shouldn't change. Eventually I tire of this mess, and
call Medicare because the open enrollment period ends on Dec. 31st. The rep
there says ok, we'll set you up with an identical plan somewhere else.

Herein lies the next rub. It is NOT identical. I did not know this until
today when the rep from the new carrier calls and welcomes me to the
"Sterling Option IV Fee for Service Plan". Um, fee for service? Excuse me,
I'm not supposed to have ANY fees I tell the rep. Luckily she was helpful
enough to un-enroll me, and actually transfers me to Medicare. I talk to a
regular rep at first, and we decide I better talk to one of the plan
specialists. Here I get helped by my new best friend named Mike.

He's like WHY are you on a Medicare Advantage plan in the first place. I'm
like, well the Humana guy said I had to because of the rules governing Part
D. He's like NO, you are Full Dual Coverage Eligible, and TennCare is on
record as being your secondary coverage, and went on to explain to me what I
just explained to you. I had wondered why all those bills had been coming
in. I had attributed it to wrong billing codes and the like. Insurance
carriers are always notoriously slow. It's even hit my credit rating because
the doctors are turning it over to collection agencies. He goes on to inform
me that even though I moved, TennCare still has to pay as they have deemed
me eligible for 2008. This guy was an absolute GODSEND. He set me up for a
new PDP, which automatically kills the other, so they can't get THEIR sticky
little fingers in the pie. This new plan is structured as such, that from
Sept.1 to Jan. 1 of the following year, all of my prescriptions are FREE.
People I tell you, it is SO damn refreshing to find a government worker that
actually cares!

Back to the suing part, and I am DAMN sure going to follow up on this. What
that Humana guy did was fraud. At the very least deceptive business
practices. I have had to pay their premiums out of my disability check every
month when I did not have to, and they KNEW this. They are bound by law to
inform of ALL my choices, which they did NOT do. As of Sept. 1 2005, I
should have had to pay nothing save my prescription co-pay. I am so far past
livid right now it's not even funny. They are going to pay for all those
back bills. They are going to damn sure clear up my credit history as well.
And I am going to seek punitive and compensatory damages as well. And they
will cover any cost incurred from now until Feb. 1, because I am stuck with
that stupid Sterling plan until then.

I apologize to all for being so long winded. However, even though we have
our little disputes, we are still a pretty tight knit group here. If I or
this post can help just one of us from having to go through what I have just
had to, then I believe it is worth it. Folks, PLEASE stay on top of
EVERYTHING. Make sure you know ALL of your options. Don't take ANYTHING for
granted. I am normally fastidious about things like this, and look what
happened to ME. I also apologize for the cursing, but when I get this angry,
I tend to get a bit more verbose than I normally would in polite company.

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Old 01-04-2008, 10:09 AM
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"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:
> Boy is somebody going to get sued!!!
> [good rant snipped]
> I apologize to all for being so long winded. However, even though we have
> our little disputes, we are still a pretty tight knit group here. If I or
> this post can help just one of us from having to go through what I have
> just had to, then I believe it is worth it. Folks, PLEASE stay on top of
> EVERYTHING. Make sure you know ALL of your options. Don't take ANYTHING
> for granted. I am normally fastidious about things like this, and look
> what happened to ME. I also apologize for the cursing, but when I get
> this angry, I tend to get a bit more verbose than I normally would in
> polite company.


I hope you get full satisfaction and a fat check, DS.

One other thing to watch for, which may not save you money directly, but
will indirectly save us all money and make you one of the Good Guys.

When I get my monthly statement from CMS, I always check what my various
doctors are charging for. I accidentally caught one of my (former) doctors
charging Medicare for procedures not performed and services and materials
not provided. After trying to straighten it out with him (because I'm such
a nice guy), I reported him to Medicare. Following their investigation,
they disallowed the charges and recouped their payments to him. Now, when I
get home from a doctor's or testing visit, I enter as much detail as I can
remember (while it's still fresh in my mind) in my word processor. Caveat
emptor!

Now go wash your mouth out with soap! ;-D

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:45 PM
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Holy cow, that is some story, I hope it all works out for you.

"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote in message
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> Boy is somebody going to get sued!!!



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Old 01-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Oleg Lego
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 01:15:06 -0800, DarkSentinel posted:

>Boy is somebody going to get sued!!!


Go get 'em, Dark! My wife tells me I am getting less patient in my
old age, because I am less willing to put up with just this sort of
thing. I figure that if you don't put your foot down, hard, the
buggers will go a little farther the next time.

>I also apologize for the cursing, but when I get this angry,
>I tend to get a bit more verbose than I normally would in polite company.


There was cursing in that?

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Old 01-04-2008, 06:21 PM
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Dark, I am sure this was very very aggravating to you but in the end it
worked out well. Dont let this eat your insides out or you might find
your numbers hitting the roof. do what you have to do, but I hope you
can do it dispassionately.

Stress is a killer

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Old 01-05-2008, 09:49 AM
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"Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:
>> Boy is somebody going to get sued!!!
>> [good rant snipped]
>> I apologize to all for being so long winded. However, even though we have
>> our little disputes, we are still a pretty tight knit group here. If I or
>> this post can help just one of us from having to go through what I have
>> just had to, then I believe it is worth it. Folks, PLEASE stay on top of
>> EVERYTHING. Make sure you know ALL of your options. Don't take ANYTHING
>> for granted. I am normally fastidious about things like this, and look
>> what happened to ME. I also apologize for the cursing, but when I get
>> this angry, I tend to get a bit more verbose than I normally would in
>> polite company.

>
> I hope you get full satisfaction and a fat check, DS.


I'm not so much looking for a windfall, just getting everything take care
of, you know?

> One other thing to watch for, which may not save you money directly, but
> will indirectly save us all money and make you one of the Good Guys.
>
> When I get my monthly statement from CMS, I always check what my various
> doctors are charging for. I accidentally caught one of my (former) doctors
> charging Medicare for procedures not performed and services and materials
> not provided. After trying to straighten it out with him (because I'm such
> a nice guy), I reported him to Medicare. Following their investigation,
> they disallowed the charges and recouped their payments to him. Now, when
> I
> get home from a doctor's or testing visit, I enter as much detail as I can
> remember (while it's still fresh in my mind) in my word processor. Caveat
> emptor!
>
> Now go wash your mouth out with soap! ;-D


The pain doc I was seeing in TN tried padding his bills with Medicare and
got popped for it. Glad you got that guy. I do the same with the details
like you do. I even go as far as to scan all the stuff I get from Social
Security, Medicare, whatever insurance, etc. Letters of award, the like.
That way if something happens to the hard copies, I have a digital copy.
This is also the reason I use Outlook for for my personal information
manager, and not any of the low end stuff. I have all my appoints set in my
calendar, cross linked to the contact list, and "To Do" list. I make copious
notes in all with every little item, no matter how trivial it may seem. Lynn
will tell you, I am thorough to the point of obsession sometimes. And even
then, things like that can slip through the cracks because I didn't know
about, and more to the point, didn't know TO ask about it.

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Old 01-05-2008, 09:49 AM
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"Oleg Lego" <rat@atatatat.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 01:15:06 -0800, DarkSentinel posted:
>
>>Boy is somebody going to get sued!!!

>
> Go get 'em, Dark! My wife tells me I am getting less patient in my
> old age, because I am less willing to put up with just this sort of
> thing. I figure that if you don't put your foot down, hard, the
> buggers will go a little farther the next time.


I'm not a crusader or anything, but like you, as I have gotten older, gone
from making more in a week than I do the whole month now, and watched my
health deteriorate, I have becoming increasing intolerant of crap like that.
It's not like I am asking for anything special or more than my share either,
just to be treated fairly

>>I also apologize for the cursing, but when I get this angry,
>>I tend to get a bit more verbose than I normally would in polite company.

>
> There was cursing in that?


Just a few off color words. Even though I cuss a lot around the guys, I
endeavor to avoid it whenever possible in settings like this...

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"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Dark, I am sure this was very very aggravating to you but in the end it
> worked out well. Dont let this eat your insides out or you might find
> your numbers hitting the roof. do what you have to do, but I hope you
> can do it dispassionately.
>
> Stress is a killer


Oh that I know. Luckily, I am one of those that when I get angry, I blow up,
vent, and it's done. To help facilitate this, I am an avid practitioner of
mediation. All my tattoos are of a theme that reflects my attempt to find my
center, or Chi. Chinese symbols for Power and Virtue over my heart. Dragon
eyes on my back. A crystal cross with starburst on my R forearm. Things like
that. Also, as my back allows, I practice my Tai Chi. Now, if you can
stressed while you are doing THAT, there is something wrong with you.

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