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Old 05-17-2007, 04:31 AM
Jimmie D
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Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM and
got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was filling
sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts. I had had
a not carb breakfast this morning.

Jimmie


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:31 AM
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 08:31:50 -0400, "Jimmie D"
<GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

>Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM and
>got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was filling
>sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts. I had had
>a not carb breakfast this morning.
>
>Jimmie


It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
being reported here before. What was your "not carb"
breakfast, and was the pre- reading of the +60 before or
after eating?


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:31 AM
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On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [BG jumps by 60 points]

> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
> being reported here before.


I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
can happen too.

And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
"gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
don't see :-).

Tim.

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:31 AM
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On 16 May 2007 06:47:59 -0700, Tim Shoppa
<shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote:

>On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [BG jumps by 60 points]

>> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
>> being reported here before.

>
>I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
>hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
>cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
>can happen too.
>
>And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
>"gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
>don't see :-).
>
>Tim.


Of course I don't have you killfiled Tim; why would I? You
and I have always been civil as best I can remember.

I must admit I took the query as a type 2 query because
Jimmy is type 2. Different condition to yours.

I don't attempt to be able to understand - or offer advice
on - the dramatic variations in BG's you type 1's go
through. All I can offer there is sympathy.

I've never had my BG's jump 3mmo/l(54mg/dl) or more without
the spike being preceded by a high carb load.





Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:31 AM
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On May 16, 10:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 May 2007 06:47:59 -0700, TimShoppa
>
>
>
>
>
> <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> >On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> [BG jumps by 60 points]
> >> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
> >> being reported here before.

>
> >I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
> >hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
> >cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
> >can happen too.

>
> >And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
> >"gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
> >don't see :-).

>
> >Tim.

>
> Of course I don't have you killfiled Tim; why would I? You
> and I have always been civil as best I can remember.


My apologies Alan, you're right, you've always had very thoughtful
balanced responses to me, I shouldn't be taking my frustrations out on
you (or others for that matter). Maybe in my case there's a different
causation: wacky bg's causing me to fly off the handle. Still not a
good excuse!

> I must admit I took the query as a type 2 query because
> Jimmy is type 2. Different condition to yours.
>
> I don't attempt to be able to understand - or offer advice
> on - the dramatic variations in BG's you type 1's go
> through. All I can offer there is sympathy.
>
> I've never had my BG's jump 3mmo/l(54mg/dl) or more without
> the spike being preceded by a high carb load.


At bedtime last night, I was at 105, a pretty good place to be at.
Woke up at 6AM, I was at 384. Not an excuse, but maybe a gripe if
you're willing to hear me repeat the same gripe! I had been doing so
well overnight for the whole week before, numbers on waking up mostly
in the 70-140 range except for one more-than-mild hypo.

Tim.

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Jimmie D" <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM
> and got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was
> filling sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts.
> I had had a not carb breakfast this morning.


Yep. But so can eating no carbs. It's not always a wise thing to cut out
carbs totally. Other things that can affect BG are illness, hormonal levels
and the use of certain meds.


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 08:31:50 -0400, "Jimmie D"
> <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM
>>and
>>got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was filling
>>sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts. I had
>>had
>>a not carb breakfast this morning.
>>
>>Jimmie

>
> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
> being reported here before. What was your "not carb"
> breakfast, and was the pre- reading of the +60 before or
> after eating?


poached egg, canadian bacon coffee black with equal

106 before breakfast, 92 when I went to bed.

Typically I do not see any significant change in my bg with this breakfast

This AM had been very stressful.


>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Slovenia



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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
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> On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [BG jumps by 60 points]

>> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
>> being reported here before.

>
> I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
> hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
> cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
> can happen too.
>
> And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
> "gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
> don't see :-).
>
> Tim.
>


Probably just lose you in the crowd. I ve noticed there can be a couple of
hundred post a day and I dont read all of them.


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Jimmie D" <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:464af9b6$0$2358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM
>> and got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was
>> filling sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts.
>> I had had a not carb breakfast this morning.

>
> Yep. But so can eating no carbs. It's not always a wise thing to cut out
> carbs totally. Other things that can affect BG are illness, hormonal
> levels and the use of certain meds.


Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.
bj


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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On May 16, 7:35 am, Tim Shoppa <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 10:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16 May 2007 06:47:59 -0700, TimShoppa

>
> > <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> > >On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> [BG jumps by 60 points]
> > >> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
> > >> being reported here before.

>
> > >I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
> > >hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
> > >cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
> > >can happen too.

>
> > >And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
> > >"gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
> > >don't see :-).

>
> > >Tim.

>
> > Of course I don't have you killfiled Tim; why would I? You
> > and I have always been civil as best I can remember.

>
> My apologies Alan, you're right, you've always had very thoughtful
> balanced responses to me, I shouldn't be taking my frustrations out on
> you (or others for that matter). Maybe in my case there's a different
> causation: wacky bg's causing me to fly off the handle. Still not a
> good excuse!
>
> > I must admit I took the query as a type 2 query because
> > Jimmy is type 2. Different condition to yours.

>
> > I don't attempt to be able to understand - or offer advice
> > on - the dramatic variations in BG's you type 1's go
> > through. All I can offer there is sympathy.

>
> > I've never had my BG's jump 3mmo/l(54mg/dl) or more without
> > the spike being preceded by a high carb load.

>
> At bedtime last night, I was at 105, a pretty good place to be at.
> Woke up at 6AM, I was at 384. Not an excuse, but maybe a gripe if
> you're willing to hear me repeat the same gripe! I had been doing so
> well overnight for the whole week before, numbers on waking up mostly
> in the 70-140 range except for one more-than-mild hypo.
>
> Tim.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Hey, Tim, you've got a right to gripe. Heck if my BG went from 105 to
384 overnight, I'd gripe too! I just feel bad that I don't have any
insights, words of wisdom, or anything else to offer that addresses
the situation. And I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the change in
BG itself made you feel a bit cranky.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.


That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine in
me!


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>
>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.

>
> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine in
> me!


BUT.....nobody should take this as a warning not to exercise!
The rise is transient & overall the exercise is good for your bg.
bj


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ISI2i.19917$5Z6.18855@trndny05...
>>
>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>>
>>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.

>>
>> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine
>> in me!

>
> BUT.....nobody should take this as a warning not to exercise!
> The rise is transient & overall the exercise is good for your bg.


And it doesn't always raise BG. Didn't used to for me. Now it seems to.


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>
>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.

>
> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine in
> me!
>


Really, I havent had that problem and I exercise a lot. I am begining to
think diabetes has a different set of symptoms for everybody.

Jimmie


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:u2J2i.12229$NY3.3739@trnddc03...
>> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:ISI2i.19917$5Z6.18855@trndny05...
>>>
>>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>>> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>>>
>>>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.
>>>
>>> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine
>>> in me!

>>
>> BUT.....nobody should take this as a warning not to exercise!
>> The rise is transient & overall the exercise is good for your bg.

>
> And it doesn't always raise BG. Didn't used to for me. Now it seems to.


Mine varies. *Usually* it goes way up from a race, but not always (maybe I
wasn't trying hard enough those times!?). *Usually* it doesn't go up, or not
much, or goes down a bit & occasionally way down, from a training run.
*Sometimes* it drops faster after a race than other times. Totally
unpredictable. But at least I don't have *bg* problems during even my longer
runs.

I've quit worrying about it. However, I don't scarf up the goodies after a
race until my bg has gone down some -- I just tuck it in a pocket (if I
don't snatch it fairly soon, it'll be gone, & sometimes I'm lucky there's a
choice left, considering how far back I finish).

This behavior hasn't changed much even as I've moved from d&e to Prandin to
Januvia.
bj



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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 16:23:57 -0400, "Jimmie D"
<GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:ISI2i.19917$5Z6.18855@trndny05...
>>
>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>>
>>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.

>>
>> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine in
>> me!
>>

>
>Really, I havent had that problem and I exercise a lot. I am begining to
>think diabetes has a different set of symptoms for everybody.
>
>Jimmie
>


sometimes it does.

Diabetes is one diease that when correctly managed is done so by
custom tailoring diet, exercise and med's(when/if needed) to the
individual. Not the individual to a general or generic approach.


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Jimmie D" <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote in part:

>Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM and
>got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was filling
>sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts. I had had
>a not carb breakfast this morning.


I think the metabolic (including bg) response to acute emotional stress is
an individual thing, rather than being something that characterizes DM.
There are definitely some DM people who experience a sharp rise in bg when
extremely anxious. There was even a theory (Hinkle, I think) that DM is a
disease of maladaption of the response to such stress--that anxiety
inappropriately created the same physiological response as starvation. I
don't think many people took that theory seriously, but it was based on data
showing rises in bg in some DM folks when under stress.

Although a type 1, Bernstein (author of Diabetes Solution book), comments in
his book that when he did some TV appearances to discuss diabetes, his bg
rose between 75 and 100 mg/dl at each session.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Jimmie D" <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM

and
> got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was filling
> sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts. I had

had
> a not carb breakfast this morning.


Could be a combo of both. I personally need some carbs at breakfast to turn
off the dawn phenomenon, YMMV.

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
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> On May 16, 10:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 16 May 2007 06:47:59 -0700, TimShoppa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> > >On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> [BG jumps by 60 points]
> > >> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
> > >> being reported here before.

> >
> > >I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
> > >hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
> > >cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
> > >can happen too.

> >
> > >And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
> > >"gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
> > >don't see :-).

> >
> > >Tim.

> >
> > Of course I don't have you killfiled Tim; why would I? You
> > and I have always been civil as best I can remember.

>
> My apologies Alan, you're right, you've always had very thoughtful
> balanced responses to me, I shouldn't be taking my frustrations out on
> you (or others for that matter). Maybe in my case there's a different
> causation: wacky bg's causing me to fly off the handle. Still not a
> good excuse!
>
> > I must admit I took the query as a type 2 query because
> > Jimmy is type 2. Different condition to yours.
> >
> > I don't attempt to be able to understand - or offer advice
> > on - the dramatic variations in BG's you type 1's go
> > through. All I can offer there is sympathy.
> >
> > I've never had my BG's jump 3mmo/l(54mg/dl) or more without
> > the spike being preceded by a high carb load.

>
> At bedtime last night, I was at 105, a pretty good place to be at.
> Woke up at 6AM, I was at 384. Not an excuse, but maybe a gripe if
> you're willing to hear me repeat the same gripe! I had been doing so
> well overnight for the whole week before, numbers on waking up mostly
> in the 70-140 range except for one more-than-mild hypo.


Your doctor hasn't discussed Somogyi effect with you? From what i have seen
other type 1's report, that kind of rise could be a couple of things,
including incorrect basal amount and Somogyi effect.

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Māck©®" <shootspammers@deathtospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 16:23:57 -0400, "Jimmie D"
> <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:ISI2i.19917$5Z6.18855@trndny05...
>>>
>>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>>> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>>>
>>>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.
>>>
>>> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine
>>> in
>>> me!
>>>

>>
>>Really, I havent had that problem and I exercise a lot. I am begining to
>>think diabetes has a different set of symptoms for everybody.
>>
>>Jimmie
>>

>
> sometimes it does.
>
> Diabetes is one diease that when correctly managed is done so by
> custom tailoring diet, exercise and med's(when/if needed) to the
> individual. Not the individual to a general or generic approach.
>
>

Something my first dr needed to learn


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> > "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:ISI2i.19917$5Z6.18855@trndny05...
> >>
> >> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> >> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
> >>
> >>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.
> >>
> >> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine
> >> in me!

> >
> > BUT.....nobody should take this as a warning not to exercise!
> > The rise is transient & overall the exercise is good for your bg.

>
> And it doesn't always raise BG. Didn't used to for me. Now it seems to.


It does for me if I don't have something small to eat. For example, because
I am doing my major exercise before breakfast I need to have some tomato
juice. Otherwise my bg is very high when I get home. If I had stress after a
no carb breakfast I could see my bg's going high also. The only time I don't
eat before any kind of exercise is when I am doing weights. I do them as far
away from the previous meal as possible.

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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On 16 May 2007 07:35:58 -0700, Tim Shoppa
<shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote:

>On May 16, 10:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 16 May 2007 06:47:59 -0700, TimShoppa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
>> >On May 16, 9:04 am, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> [BG jumps by 60 points]
>> >> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
>> >> being reported here before.

>>
>> >I've had my bg go up or down by much more than 60 points in a half
>> >hour with no explanation at all. I could try to invoke stress in some
>> >cases but I just don't know because there are many other reasons it
>> >can happen too.

>>
>> >And I report (well, maybe a more relevant word is "complain" or
>> >"gripe") this all the time here. Maybe you've got me killfiled so you
>> >don't see :-).

>>
>> >Tim.

>>
>> Of course I don't have you killfiled Tim; why would I? You
>> and I have always been civil as best I can remember.

>
>My apologies Alan, you're right, you've always had very thoughtful
>balanced responses to me, I shouldn't be taking my frustrations out on
>you (or others for that matter). Maybe in my case there's a different
>causation: wacky bg's causing me to fly off the handle. Still not a
>good excuse!
>
>> I must admit I took the query as a type 2 query because
>> Jimmy is type 2. Different condition to yours.
>>
>> I don't attempt to be able to understand - or offer advice
>> on - the dramatic variations in BG's you type 1's go
>> through. All I can offer there is sympathy.
>>
>> I've never had my BG's jump 3mmo/l(54mg/dl) or more without
>> the spike being preceded by a high carb load.

>
>At bedtime last night, I was at 105, a pretty good place to be at.
>Woke up at 6AM, I was at 384. Not an excuse, but maybe a gripe if
>you're willing to hear me repeat the same gripe! I had been doing so
>well overnight for the whole week before, numbers on waking up mostly
>in the 70-140 range except for one more-than-mild hypo.
>
>Tim.


Yep; as I said I can only sympathise. I can't recall any
T2's going through anything like that variation overnight.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:20 -0400, "Jimmie D"
<GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:470m43tti08vovhi2ql8hh67peo4agtvdj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 08:31:50 -0400, "Jimmie D"
>> <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Can stress cause a spontaneous increase in BG. I left the house this AM
>>>and
>>>got caught up in the morning traffic. Within a few minutes I was filling
>>>sick, pulled over and checked my BG again. It had shot up 60 pts. I had
>>>had
>>>a not carb breakfast this morning.
>>>
>>>Jimmie

>>
>> It can, although that's a bit more of a jump than I recall
>> being reported here before. What was your "not carb"
>> breakfast, and was the pre- reading of the +60 before or
>> after eating?

>
>poached egg, canadian bacon coffee black with equal
>
>106 before breakfast, 92 when I went to bed.
>
>Typically I do not see any significant change in my bg with this breakfast
>
>This AM had been very stressful.


Thanks for the response. Obviously stress does affect you.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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"Jimmie D" <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Really, I havent had that problem and I exercise a lot. I am begining to
> think diabetes has a different set of symptoms for everybody.


Yep! Like I've said before, there are over 300 variations of diabetes yet
most of us are lumped together as type 1, type 2, or GD. You're also newly
diagnosed. Just wait. Things will change.


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Old 05-17-2007, 11:20 AM
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:35:54 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
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>"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>>
>>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.

>>
>> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine in
>> me!

>
>BUT.....nobody should take this as a warning not to exercise!
>The rise is transient & overall the exercise is good for your bg.


Whilst my liver was dumping, exercise in the morning, before about
11am, was just not possible for me. I could double my bg at the drop
of a hat. I just shifted my exercise pattern to after supper. Works
well for me.

Nicky.
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D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:01 PM
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"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> Whilst my liver was dumping, exercise in the morning, before about
> 11am, was just not possible for me. I could double my bg at the drop
> of a hat. I just shifted my exercise pattern to after supper. Works
> well for me.
>


I exercise at various times.

For races, obviously I do it when it's happening, whether it's 7am or 7pm. I
work my eating around whatever event I'm doing & the driving time to get
there. I don't worry too much about bg going high, it'll come down later,
but I do make sure to be adequately fuelled before the start.

My body prefers exercise about 5pm -- by then it's loosened up enough, I'm
mentally geared up enough, etc. But in hot weather I try to get out by mid
morning because of conditions -- otherwise it's 90+ out & possibly humid as
well, no fun for running! Sometimes "scheduling problems" makes it necessary
to run at a particular time whether I want to or not -- or skip it
altogether. When they start scraping my bedroom windows in a week or two,
I'll probably be out early to delay the headache development!
bj


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Old 05-19-2007, 10:31 PM
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 19:50:08 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
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>When they start scraping my bedroom windows in a week or two,
>I'll probably be out early to delay the headache development!


What are they doing to your bedroom windows?!

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Old 05-19-2007, 10:31 PM
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"Jimmie D" <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ISI2i.19917$5Z6.18855@trndny05...
>>
>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>> news:JuI2i.31394$cu1.8476@trnddc01...
>>
>>> Exercise stress can also raise the bg quite a bit.

>>
>> That's true too. Next time I won't reply until I've gotten my caffeine
>> in me!
>>

>
> Really, I havent had that problem and I exercise a lot. I am begining to
> think diabetes has a different set of symptoms for everybody.
>
> Jimmie
>

Well I have found I do have that problem if I dont keep moving after
exercise. I went back and just crashed on the couch today and Checked my BG
about an hr latter and it had shot up to 144. I waited an hr and it went
back down to 95. Interesting

Jimmie


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Old 05-19-2007, 11:31 PM
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They're doing lead abatement on all the exterior wordwork on my building.
They've done about 3/4 & just have the front to do -- which is where my
bedroom windows are. The scraping & screeching (from the scraper-sharpener,
I think) when they did the side were....pretty awful.
bj

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 May 2007 19:50:08 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
>
>>When they start scraping my bedroom windows in a week or two,
>>I'll probably be out early to delay the headache development!

>
> What are they doing to your bedroom windows?!
>



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Old 05-20-2007, 10:01 AM
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:15:40 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
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>They're doing lead abatement on all the exterior wordwork on my building.
>They've done about 3/4 & just have the front to do -- which is where my
>bedroom windows are. The scraping & screeching (from the scraper-sharpener,
>I think) when they did the side were....pretty awful.


Wow! It's making my teeth itch reading about it - I hope they get it
over with quickly!

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