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Old 04-12-2008, 01:12 AM
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A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:

http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html


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Old 04-12-2008, 01:30 PM
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"Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
>
> http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html




I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both conditions
to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or listened to the
film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long, but worth the time
to listen.

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Evelyn

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Old 04-12-2008, 03:31 PM
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In alt.support.diabetes Evelyn Ruut <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:

: "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
: news:uZSLj.22021$9O.13849@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
: >A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
: >
: > http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html



: I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both conditions
: to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or listened to the
: film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long, but worth the time
: to listen.

: --
: Best Regards,

: Evelyn

I find it interesting that so much, curretly, is being blamed on vitamin D
deficiency. It seems like a new bandwagon that so many are jumpig on.
am not saying that many of them mey be corect, but it just seems odd. My
endo, some monhs ago put me onf close to 3000 units of vitamin D a day. I
now heard that over 2,000 can lead to some problems like join and ocone
pain, which I am having in spades. whether the Vitamin D is contributing,
I don't know, but will ask my pain specialist.

Wendy
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Old 04-12-2008, 04:30 PM
Evelyn Ruut
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"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In alt.support.diabetes Evelyn Ruut <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> : news:uZSLj.22021$9O.13849@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
> : >A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
> : >
> : > http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html
>
>
>
> : I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both
> conditions
> : to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or listened to the
> : film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long, but worth the
> time
> : to listen.
>
> : --
> : Best Regards,
>
> : Evelyn
>
> I find it interesting that so much, curretly, is being blamed on vitamin D
> deficiency. It seems like a new bandwagon that so many are jumpig on.
> am not saying that many of them mey be corect, but it just seems odd. My
> endo, some monhs ago put me onf close to 3000 units of vitamin D a day. I
> now heard that over 2,000 can lead to some problems like join and ocone
> pain, which I am having in spades. whether the Vitamin D is contributing,
> I don't know, but will ask my pain specialist.
>
> Wendy


Wendy that doctor who spoke on the link I posted claims we are for the most
part all truly D deficient, and cited study after study to prove it. I
found it very convincing. The doctor in the link claims that fibromyalgia
is also related to D deficiency, which by the way, also is associated with
bone, muscle and joint pain.

I just started taking Boniva, and I thought that might be giving me pain,
which is one of the side effects. You know how I am.... if there is a side
effect, doggone if I don't get it!

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Evelyn

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Old 04-12-2008, 05:00 PM
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Evelyn Ruut wrote:
>
> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:uZSLj.22021$9O.13849@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
>
>> A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
>>
>> http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html

>
>
>
>
> I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both
> conditions to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or
> listened to the film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long,
> but worth the time to listen.
>


It's not that simple, though. Psoriasis is clearly an endocrine
disorder, with CRH and ACTH very highly implicated in the inflammatory
process, and over active mast cells. Psoriatic skin is, in fact, loaded
with CRH and less so, with ACTH. Cortisol, which controls immunity and
inflammation, is also strongly implicated, as are steroid receptor
abnromatlities.

Vitamin D deficiency is extremely common in HPA axis dysfunction, vit D
is actually a type of steroid hormone, a secosteroid.

Susan
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:46 PM
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:29:39 -0400, Susan <nevermind@nomail.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Evelyn Ruut wrote:
>>
>> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> news:uZSLj.22021$9O.13849@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>>> A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
>>>
>>> http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both
>> conditions to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or
>> listened to the film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long,
>> but worth the time to listen.
>>

>
>It's not that simple, though. Psoriasis is clearly an endocrine
>disorder, with CRH and ACTH very highly implicated in the inflammatory
>process, and over active mast cells. Psoriatic skin is, in fact, loaded
>with CRH and less so, with ACTH. Cortisol, which controls immunity and
>inflammation, is also strongly implicated, as are steroid receptor
>abnromatlities.
>
>Vitamin D deficiency is extremely common in HPA axis dysfunction, vit D
>is actually a type of steroid hormone, a secosteroid.


Ah, that's where it links in to these different conditions.

When I was young we always stayed out in the sun as much as possible
(some of the tales about UK weather are true, we made use of it when
it was there) these days you're recommended not to get too much sun
exposure for fear of melanoma, maybe people are getting too little to
get the Vit D synthesis going in their skin
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:44 PM
MI
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On 4/15/08 1:03 PM, in article e82a04p0sg613uge36v0ea3has8kb3ub94@4ax.com,
"Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:29:39 -0400, Susan <nevermind@nomail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Evelyn Ruut wrote:
>>>
>>> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uZSLj.22021$9O.13849@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>
>>>> A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both
>>> conditions to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or
>>> listened to the film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long,
>>> but worth the time to listen.
>>>

>>
>> It's not that simple, though. Psoriasis is clearly an endocrine
>> disorder, with CRH and ACTH very highly implicated in the inflammatory
>> process, and over active mast cells. Psoriatic skin is, in fact, loaded
>> with CRH and less so, with ACTH. Cortisol, which controls immunity and
>> inflammation, is also strongly implicated, as are steroid receptor
>> abnromatlities.
>>
>> Vitamin D deficiency is extremely common in HPA axis dysfunction, vit D
>> is actually a type of steroid hormone, a secosteroid.

>
> Ah, that's where it links in to these different conditions.
>
> When I was young we always stayed out in the sun as much as possible
> (some of the tales about UK weather are true, we made use of it when
> it was there) these days you're recommended not to get too much sun
> exposure for fear of melanoma, maybe people are getting too little to
> get the Vit D synthesis going in their skin


That's what they are suggesting here. We get so much rain and cloudy weather
in the winter, along with fact we are so far north (49th parallel) here in
Vancouver, they are suggesting we take a Vitamin D supplement.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:01 PM
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:41:23 GMT, MI <quilchenapark@shaw.ca> wrote:

>
>
>
>On 4/15/08 1:03 PM, in article e82a04p0sg613uge36v0ea3has8kb3ub94@4ax.com,
>"Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:29:39 -0400, Susan <nevermind@nomail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>> Evelyn Ruut wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uZSLj.22021$9O.13849@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>>
>>>>> A study of psoriasis that may lead to help with type 1 diabetes:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.healthscout.com/news/322/614168/main.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I posted a link the other day in which a dermatologist links both
>>>> conditions to vitamin D deficiency. I don't know if you saw it or
>>>> listened to the film clip, but it was really interesting. It was long,
>>>> but worth the time to listen.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not that simple, though. Psoriasis is clearly an endocrine
>>> disorder, with CRH and ACTH very highly implicated in the inflammatory
>>> process, and over active mast cells. Psoriatic skin is, in fact, loaded
>>> with CRH and less so, with ACTH. Cortisol, which controls immunity and
>>> inflammation, is also strongly implicated, as are steroid receptor
>>> abnromatlities.
>>>
>>> Vitamin D deficiency is extremely common in HPA axis dysfunction, vit D
>>> is actually a type of steroid hormone, a secosteroid.

>>
>> Ah, that's where it links in to these different conditions.
>>
>> When I was young we always stayed out in the sun as much as possible
>> (some of the tales about UK weather are true, we made use of it when
>> it was there) these days you're recommended not to get too much sun
>> exposure for fear of melanoma, maybe people are getting too little to
>> get the Vit D synthesis going in their skin

>
>That's what they are suggesting here. We get so much rain and cloudy weather
>in the winter, along with fact we are so far north (49th parallel) here in
>Vancouver, they are suggesting we take a Vitamin D supplement.


Yes now that would be interesting if they could find a seasonal
increase/decrease in such conditions, AFAICR there's a connection with
latitude with a number of things.

Belt and braces I try to get as much nutrition from my diet as
possible but I also take a multivitamin and mineral supplement which
contains 200% of the RDA.

On the other hand there's been some recent work showing negative
effects from overdoing the vitamins, so be careful out there . . .
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