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  1. #1
    Cheri Guest

    Default Toe Nail Fungus Question

    My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    --
    Cheri



  2. #2
    [email protected] Guest

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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:56:17 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
    wrote:

    >My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA



    I always thought a fungus sore on the big toe was the entry point
    for the Osteomylitis that led to a leg loss.

    Lamisil is an over the counter med that seems to be effective.

    Sporonox is a pill that was very effective for me.

    The problem is all of the current med's just stop
    the growtn of Fungus. The spores are in the skin and
    treatment must be continued until these spores
    are totally eliminated. That take time.

    The stories on sporonox and Lamisil were alarmist
    but I note Lamisil is now over the counter.

    The key is the proper doctor.

    I had large areas of fungus on the leg(s) and
    they caused chronic problems.
    Sporonox
    I have had no problem in several years.

    Again, you need an experienced doc in this area.
    He will monitor you and do blood tests to see if any
    adverse effects start to occur.

    I have had a recent problem where the alarist warning prevented
    proper treatment until I found an old doc with experience in this
    area. He said the drug is a poison BUT

    Warnng are out on "Cipro" now.

    All drugs are double edged and care must be used. One
    reason to use a doc--the proper doc.

    But remember I am not the doc, closer to the village idiot.


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  3. #3
    Peppermind Patootie Guest

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    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA


    I did the oral med a couple years before I was diagnosed with DM.
    Worked like a charm for me.

    PP, T2

  4. #4
    MaryL Guest

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    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ..
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >
    > --
    > Cheri
    >
    >


    I had fungus on one of my large toenails. My podiatrist prefers not to use
    oral medication until after topical has been tried. Like your pharmacist,
    he warned about possible damage to the kidneys. He prescribed C-NailEsse by
    EuroEssence. It's expensive ($40.00 for a tube), but it lasts for months.
    It's not a gel. It comes in a dispenser with a fiber tip, and I rub that on
    the nail and up against the surrounding flesh twice a day. It worked for
    me, but it takes many months (the time it takes the nail to grow out). He
    also suggested soaking my feet in water with a little rubbing alcohol in it.
    He said that is *not* a favorable environment for fungus (but needs to be
    done in combination with the prescription).

    MaryL


  5. #5
    Susan Guest

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    x-no-archive: yes

    Cheri wrote:
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >


    I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it. Really.

    The oral meds are extremely liver toxic, I didn't know about kidney damage.

    Susan

  6. #6
    Cheri Guest

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    MaryL wrote in message
    <487bd038$0$4038$[email protected]>.. .

    >I had fungus on one of my large toenails. My podiatrist prefers not

    to use
    >oral medication until after topical has been tried. Like your

    pharmacist,
    >he warned about possible damage to the kidneys. He prescribed

    C-NailEsse by
    >EuroEssence. It's expensive ($40.00 for a tube), but it lasts for

    months.
    >It's not a gel. It comes in a dispenser with a fiber tip, and I rub

    that on
    >the nail and up against the surrounding flesh twice a day. It worked

    for
    >me, but it takes many months (the time it takes the nail to grow

    out). He
    >also suggested soaking my feet in water with a little rubbing alcohol

    in it.
    >He said that is *not* a favorable environment for fungus (but needs

    to be
    >done in combination with the prescription).
    >
    >MaryL


    Thanks MaryL, it's not for me, but for a friend who wants to ask his
    doctor tomorrow. Thankfully, I don't have nail fungus...yet. :-)

    Cheri



  7. #7
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ..
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA


    I was told by pretty much all of my Drs. that the prescriptions are very
    hard on the liver and other body parts and do not necessarily work.

    What worked for me once was Nonyx. I mail ordered it but they now sell it
    at Rite Aid. The problem with that stuff is you have to KEEP using it
    forever or the fungus will come back. I quit using it when we made the move
    to NY because I didn't want to haul a bunch of stuff cross country. Sure
    enough, it came back.

    I then tried a combination of things. Vinegar soaks (in my case cotton pads
    soaked in vinegar and kept on the nails for about a half an hour), keeping
    the nails clipped/filed short and thinning them down with a file. I also
    use a cream (any cream will do) that contains urea. Urea is an anti-fungal.
    And I used a kit from Dr. Scholl's that is no longer available. I just got
    their new kit but am not sure what all is in it. The old stuff contained a
    cream and a brush. You were to scrub your nails for at least a minute with
    the cream. Personally I think this did nothing but bleach the surface of
    the nails, but it did make them look better and seemed to smooth the thick
    nails.

    I completely cleared the nails on my right foot by doing this. The big toe
    on the left foot was more stubborn and I still have the fungus.plus it
    spread to the next nail. I must admit I haven't kept up with the vinegar
    soaks and I'm not so good to put on the cream like I used to. I just sort
    of gave up when that nail didn't clear and the other foot did.



  8. #8
    Cheri Guest

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    Peppermind Patootie wrote in message ...
    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    >
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what

    is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted

    to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the

    oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    >
    >I did the oral med a couple years before I was diagnosed with DM.
    >Worked like a charm for me.
    >
    >PP, T2


    Thanks PP, I think the pharmacist scared him.

    Cheri



  9. #9
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question


    Susan wrote in message <[email protected]>...
    >x-no-archive: yes
    >
    >Cheri wrote:
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what

    is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted

    to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the

    oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >>

    >
    >I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it. Really.
    >
    >The oral meds are extremely liver toxic, I didn't know about kidney

    damage.
    >
    >Susan


    Thanks Susan, I'll tell him. He might want to give it a try, since
    he's not wanting to take the orals for it. The thing is, he also said
    some insurance that he had wouldn't cover some things due to it being
    cosmetic. Is that true, do you think, or did he misunderstand? I know
    he misunderstood about medi-care not covering testing strips, so
    dunno.

    Cheri



  10. #10
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question


    "Susan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > Cheri wrote:
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >>

    >
    > I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it. Really.
    >
    > The oral meds are extremely liver toxic, I didn't know about kidney
    > damage.


    I tried the Vaporub. Didn't do a thing but stink. Also tried Oil of
    Oregano. It smelled good but didn't do a thing either.



  11. #11
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:25:54 -0400, Susan <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >x-no-archive: yes
    >
    >Cheri wrote:
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >>

    >
    >I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it. Really.
    >
    >The oral meds are extremely liver toxic, I didn't know about kidney damage.
    >
    >Susan

    Susan, they are liver toxic but work very well when the liver
    tests are used to weed out those where harm will result. NO med
    is safe if over used. That includes some diabetic drugs.

    The home remedies are questionable for the stated reasons.
    They cannot kill the spores, so many established infections
    returns, sometimes with a vengeance.

    I understand that all fungus that infects humans is not just one
    strain.


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  12. #12
    freckles Guest

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    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ..
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >
    > --
    > Cheri
    >


    I went to Google and typed VICKS+FUNGUS

    Nine pages of information was displayed.

    Have not read all of the info yet, but some of it looks very interesting.

    Don



  13. #13
    [email protected] Guest

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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:38:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected] ...
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    >
    >I was told by pretty much all of my Drs. that the prescriptions are very
    >hard on the liver and other body parts and do not necessarily work.
    >
    >What worked for me once was Nonyx. I mail ordered it but they now sell it
    >at Rite Aid. The problem with that stuff is you have to KEEP using it
    >forever or the fungus will come back. I quit using it when we made the move
    >to NY because I didn't want to haul a bunch of stuff cross country. Sure
    >enough, it came back.
    >
    >I then tried a combination of things. Vinegar soaks (in my case cotton pads
    >soaked in vinegar and kept on the nails for about a half an hour), keeping
    >the nails clipped/filed short and thinning them down with a file. I also
    >use a cream (any cream will do) that contains urea. Urea is an anti-fungal.
    >And I used a kit from Dr. Scholl's that is no longer available. I just got
    >their new kit but am not sure what all is in it. The old stuff contained a
    >cream and a brush. You were to scrub your nails for at least a minute with
    >the cream. Personally I think this did nothing but bleach the surface of
    >the nails, but it did make them look better and seemed to smooth the thick
    >nails.
    >
    >I completely cleared the nails on my right foot by doing this. The big toe
    >on the left foot was more stubborn and I still have the fungus.plus it
    >spread to the next nail. I must admit I haven't kept up with the vinegar
    >soaks and I'm not so good to put on the cream like I used to. I just sort
    >of gave up when that nail didn't clear and the other foot did.
    >

    Fungus grows in dead tissue. Urea does remove the dead skin.

    In so many cases fungus causes inflammation which causes skin breaks.

    The secondary infections, if any,are the danger. The hospital
    kind are especially dangerous.


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  14. #14
    MaryL Guest

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    "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:487bd038$0$4038$[email protected] ..
    >
    > I had fungus on one of my large toenails. My podiatrist prefers not to
    > use oral medication until after topical has been tried. Like your
    > pharmacist, he warned about possible damage to the kidneys. He prescribed
    > C-NailEsse by EuroEssence. It's expensive ($40.00 for a tube), but it
    > lasts for months. It's not a gel. It comes in a dispenser with a fiber
    > tip, and I rub that on the nail and up against the surrounding flesh twice
    > a day. It worked for me, but it takes many months (the time it takes the
    > nail to grow out). He also suggested soaking my feet in water with a
    > little rubbing alcohol in it. He said that is *not* a favorable
    > environment for fungus (but needs to be done in combination with the
    > prescription).
    >
    > MaryL
    >


    Oooops! My podiatrist suggested that I soak my feet in warm water with a
    small amount of *white vinegar* (NOT rubbing alcohol). The acidic bath
    apparently is helpful. ...But I don't know where my brain was when I wrote
    that.

    MaryL


  15. #15
    Burt Smith Guest

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    Cheri wrote:
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >
    > --
    > Cheri
    >
    >


    TEA TREE OIL cured the nasty case of fungus on both of my big
    toenails. Both nails were black and falling apart. The pain was
    miserable. It has taken two years, but now both toenails are
    whole and there is no pain or tenderness. There is still a trace
    of fungus at the tips, but it is diminishing. YMMV, but it worked
    for me.
    Burt

  16. #16
    Ozgirl Guest

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    There was a reluctance to use the oral here in Oz because it can cause liver
    problems. I haven't heard about it causing kidney problems. The docs seem a
    bit more relaxed these days and are prescribing it more often as it does
    work better and faster than creams.

    Cheri wrote:
    > Peppermind Patootie wrote in message ...
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    >>
    >>> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >>> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >>> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the
    >>> oral medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined.
    >>> Being a diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something
    >>> that will help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    >>
    >> I did the oral med a couple years before I was diagnosed with DM.
    >> Worked like a charm for me.
    >>
    >> PP, T2

    >
    > Thanks PP, I think the pharmacist scared him.
    >
    > Cheri




  17. #17
    Ozgirl Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    When did you change from Peppermint?

    Peppermind Patootie wrote:
    > In article




  18. #18
    Susan Guest

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    x-no-archive: yes

    [email protected] wrote:

    > Susan, they are liver toxic but work very well when the liver
    > tests are used to weed out those where harm will result. NO med
    > is safe if over used. That includes some diabetic drugs.


    You can't weed out those who might get harmed, it's everyone who's
    vulnerable.

    And antifungals also suppress, and sometimes even completely shut down
    adrenal function, causing adrenal failure, which can be fatal.

    That's why ketoconazole is used to treat extreme, but only the most
    extreme, cases of Cushing's disease.

    Susan

  19. #19
    Nick Cramer Guest

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    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA


    Lamasil cream (OTC), same as the pills. The pills are also rough on yer
    liver. I had to take them for 4-1/2 months, several years ago, when I had
    severe jungle rot (Pidea tenis) on the soles of my feet. The doc monitored
    my liver plate every month. For toenail fungus, I later used the cream (get
    the female tube, it's bigger, cheaper and the same formulation). I put it
    on two or three times a day 'till the fungus cleared up. That was last
    year, so I don't remember how long it took, but it worked.

    --
    Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
    I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
    They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
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  20. #20
    Kook Monitor Guest

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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:25:54 -0400, Susan wrote:

    > I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it. Really.


    Old wives' tale. We did it for months with no effects except it repelled
    my cats effectively.

    Kooky

  21. #21
    Nick Cramer Guest

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    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    > Peppermind Patootie wrote in message ...
    > > "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    > >
    > >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what
    > >> is best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted
    > >> to give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the
    > >> oral medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being
    > >> a diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    > >
    > >I did the oral med a couple years before I was diagnosed with DM.
    > >Worked like a charm for me.


    > Thanks PP, I think the pharmacist scared him.


    Not unnecessarily so, Cheri. Anyone with any liver problems has to be
    extremely careful when taking Lamasil oral. Google on Lamasil
    contrindications for a lot of info. The Lamasil cream (OTC) works great!

    --
    Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
    I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
    They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

  22. #22
    Nick Cramer Guest

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    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Susan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > Cheri wrote:
    > >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA


    > > I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it. Really.
    > >
    > > The oral meds are extremely liver toxic, I didn't know about kidney
    > > damage.

    >
    > I tried the Vaporub. Didn't do a thing but stink. Also tried Oil of
    > Oregano. It smelled good but didn't do a thing either.


    Pure Tea Tree oil is also touted as a cure for toenail fungus. Didn't do a
    thing for me and sure is expensive! One of my daughters bought it for me.

    --
    Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
    I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
    They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

  23. #23
    hemyd Guest

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    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ..
    > My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >
    > --
    > Cheri
    >
    >

    I don't think I've ever had toe nail fungus, Cheri, but ever since being
    diagnosed with Type 2 in 1995 I've been plagued with what I term as fungal
    disease on my feet. This shows itself as reddish "scabby" looking spots.
    Once such an eruption takes place, it takes me at least two weeks of
    twice-a-day application of an anti fungal cream. To prevent it from
    happening in the first place, I've been applying a VERY thinly spread fungal
    cream to all parts of my foot, including toenails (thank you for the advice,
    Guy). I've been using the cream successfully now for several years, having
    an eruption first time in two years - probably because I missed the area in
    several applications. the cream I'm using is the cheapest anti-fungal cream
    I can get at a chemist. The active ingredient is Clotrimazole 10 mg/g. There
    are better ones, but they are expensive. I chose the cheapest. My daily
    applications consist of rubbing the cream sparingly onto all parts of my
    foot. A 50gram tube lasts for months.

    It is because of Guy's preaching about his situation that I have decided to
    treat my fungal disease outbreaks most aggressively.

    Henry Mydlarz.



  24. #24
    Nicky Guest

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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:56:17 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
    wrote:

    >My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA


    Whey from yoghurt - cured mine when several goes round creams and
    ointments failed. Dibble your toes in it; let it dry; wash. Repeat a
    couple of times a day. Took about 6 weeks, I think.

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25

  25. #25
    W. Baker Guest

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    hemyd <myd!!![email protected]> wrote:
    : I don't think I've ever had toe nail fungus, Cheri, but ever since being
    : diagnosed with Type 2 in 1995 I've been plagued with what I term as fungal
    : disease on my feet. This shows itself as reddish "scabby" looking spots.
    : Once such an eruption takes place, it takes me at least two weeks of
    : twice-a-day application of an anti fungal cream. To prevent it from
    : happening in the first place, I've been applying a VERY thinly spread fungal
    : cream to all parts of my foot, including toenails (thank you for the advice,
    : Guy). I've been using the cream successfully now for several years, having
    : an eruption first time in two years - probably because I missed the area in
    : several applications. the cream I'm using is the cheapest anti-fungal cream
    : I can get at a chemist. The active ingredient is Clotrimazole 10 mg/g. There
    : are better ones, but they are expensive. I chose the cheapest. My daily
    : applications consist of rubbing the cream sparingly onto all parts of my
    : foot. A 50gram tube lasts for months.

    : It is because of Guy's preaching about his situation that I have decided to
    : treat my fungal disease outbreaks most aggressively.

    : Henry Mydlarz.

    I have done the same as Henry for foot fungus aand find it works well. I
    use the clotrimazole everyday all summer. If I get an otbreak, then I use
    the Lamisil cream for a few weeks until it is clear and then pack to teh
    clotrimazole, which is available generically OTC here in the US.

    Wendy


  26. #26
    W. Baker Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:

    : >My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    : >best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    : >give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    : >medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    : >diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    : >help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    : Whey from yoghurt - cured mine when several goes round creams and
    : ointments failed. Dibble your toes in it; let it dry; wash. Repeat a
    : couple of times a day. Took about 6 weeks, I think.

    : Nicky.

    What a great idea! Now ou can make your own Greek yoguurt by buying the
    regular and draining it and using the whey on your feet! Kill two birds
    with one stone:-)

    Looks like another case of acid from either vinegar or yogurt doing good
    things!!

    Wendy





  27. #27
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    Thanks Nick, and to all who responded. I will print out a list of the
    suggestions, and give them to him. :-)

    Cheri


    Nick Cramer wrote in message <20080715004704.767$[email protected]>...
    >"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what

    is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted

    to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the

    oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA

    >
    >Lamasil cream (OTC), same as the pills. The pills are also rough on

    yer
    >liver. I had to take them for 4-1/2 months, several years ago, when I

    had
    >severe jungle rot (Pidea tenis) on the soles of my feet. The doc

    monitored
    >my liver plate every month. For toenail fungus, I later used the

    cream (get
    >the female tube, it's bigger, cheaper and the same formulation). I

    put it
    >on two or three times a day 'till the fungus cleared up. That was

    last
    >year, so I don't remember how long it took, but it worked.
    >
    >--
    >Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their

    families!
    >I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American

    War.
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  28. #28
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question


    hemyd wrote in message
    <487c5522$0$17505$[email protected]>.. .


    >I can get at a chemist. The active ingredient is Clotrimazole 10

    mg/g. There
    >are better ones, but they are expensive. I chose the cheapest. My

    daily
    >applications consist of rubbing the cream sparingly onto all parts of

    my
    >foot. A 50gram tube lasts for months.
    >
    >It is because of Guy's preaching about his situation that I have

    decided to
    >treat my fungal disease outbreaks most aggressively.


    Thanks Henry, and yes...Guy did give great wake up calls to the
    situation.

    Cheri
    >
    >Henry Mydlarz.
    >
    >




  29. #29
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    The doctor could well have told him liver problems, he does get things
    confused. :-)

    Cheri


    Ozgirl wrote in message <[email protected]>...
    >There was a reluctance to use the oral here in Oz because it can

    cause liver
    >problems. I haven't heard about it causing kidney problems. The docs

    seem a
    >bit more relaxed these days and are prescribing it more often as it

    does
    >work better and faster than creams.




  30. #30
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question


    Kook Monitor wrote in message ...
    >On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:25:54 -0400, Susan wrote:
    >
    >> I've read many times that Vaporub is very effective for it.

    Really.
    >
    >Old wives' tale. We did it for months with no effects except it

    repelled
    >my cats effectively.
    >
    >Kooky


    Yes, but some of those "old wives' tales" are more effective in some
    cases than modern medicine.

    Cheri



  31. #31
    Peppermint Patootie Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Peppermind Patootie <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > When did you change from Peppermint?
    > >
    > > Peppermind Patootie wrote:
    > > > In article

    >
    > Oooops! I must have typoed. I had to set it up twice on one of my
    > computers since the app crashed before I had saved it. It must be my
    > computer at home, since I'm at work and it appears to be spelled right
    > here.
    >
    > PP, T2


    *sigh* Apparently it *was* this computer. I believe I have fixed it.
    I'll see when I check how this one posts.

    PP, T2

  32. #32
    Peppermind Patootie Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > When did you change from Peppermint?
    >
    > Peppermind Patootie wrote:
    > > In article


    Oooops! I must have typoed. I had to set it up twice on one of my
    computers since the app crashed before I had saved it. It must be my
    computer at home, since I'm at work and it appears to be spelled right
    here.

    PP, T2

  33. #33
    Trinkwasser Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:45:19 -0400, "freckles"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected] ...
    >> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >>
    >> --
    >> Cheri
    >>

    >
    >I went to Google and typed VICKS+FUNGUS
    >
    >Nine pages of information was displayed.
    >
    >Have not read all of the info yet, but some of it looks very interesting.


    I asked my podiatrist about that.

    "Would you rather your feet smelled of Vick or Lamisil?"

    He had a point <G> I came away with a tube of Lamisil Once.

    It hasn't completely worked yet.

    I'll try another application, and if there's any left I'll hit it with
    the Vick.

  34. #34
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:12:25 -0400, Peppermind Patootie
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> When did you change from Peppermint?
    >>
    >> Peppermind Patootie wrote:
    >> > In article

    >
    >Oooops! I must have typoed. I had to set it up twice on one of my
    >computers since the app crashed before I had saved it. It must be my
    >computer at home, since I'm at work and it appears to be spelled right
    >here.
    >
    >PP, T2


    I thnk peppermind is great. My wife s of Latin extraction.

    She is so great but she fits that label sometmes. That is when
    I shut up.
    f


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  35. #35
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:42:41 +0100, Trinkwasser
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:45:19 -0400, "freckles"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected] t...
    >>> My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    >>> best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    >>> give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    >>> medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    >>> diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    >>> help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Cheri
    >>>

    >>
    >>I went to Google and typed VICKS+FUNGUS
    >>
    >>Nine pages of information was displayed.
    >>
    >>Have not read all of the info yet, but some of it looks very interesting.

    >
    >I asked my podiatrist about that.
    >
    >"Would you rather your feet smelled of Vick or Lamisil?"
    >
    >He had a point <G> I came away with a tube of Lamisil Once.
    >
    >It hasn't completely worked yet.
    >
    >I'll try another application, and if there's any left I'll hit it with
    >the Vick.

    In my experience topical things do not work. In 1953
    a mercury salve did work but the problems with mercury is
    well documented and the product no longer is sold.
    In the service I picked up a hell of a mess.

    Each person must look at their situation. Many
    problems needed internal medication. But there
    some common sense is needed. An essential with
    internal med is the proper test to see if they are
    doing harm. Remember Resulin.

    I do think that avoiding exposure is the best thing but
    not always possible.

    Many things may work early in the game. But my experience
    is an established problem requires the proper doc and more
    aggressive treatment.

    Above all it does no good to conquer the problem and immediately
    getting re infected.

    Those damn spores are tough and persist ant.


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  36. #36
    hemyd Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    "W. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:g5ift0$oqc$[email protected]..
    >
    > I have done the same as Henry for foot fungus aand find it works well. I
    > use the clotrimazole everyday all summer. If I get an otbreak, then I use
    > the Lamisil cream for a few weeks until it is clear and then pack to teh
    > clotrimazole, which is available generically OTC here in the US.
    >
    > Wendy


    G'day Wendy,

    The outbreak I have now, in a small area at the side of my foot, is the
    first one in two years. I've been applying the clotrimazole twice daily for
    a week now, but so far the infection is not going away. I'll probably have
    to go for Lamisil, as you do. As the outbreak develops, it looks quite ugly.
    I can imagine it leading to more serious problems.

    Henry.



  37. #37
    W. Baker Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    hemyd <myd!!![email protected]> wrote:
    : "W. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    : news:g5ift0$oqc$[email protected]..
    : >
    : > I have done the same as Henry for foot fungus aand find it works well. I
    : > use the clotrimazole everyday all summer. If I get an otbreak, then I use
    : > the Lamisil cream for a few weeks until it is clear and then pack to teh
    : > clotrimazole, which is available generically OTC here in the US.
    : >
    : > Wendy

    : G'day Wendy,

    : The outbreak I have now, in a small area at the side of my foot, is the
    : first one in two years. I've been applying the clotrimazole twice daily for
    : a week now, but so far the infection is not going away. I'll probably have
    : to go for Lamisil, as you do. As the outbreak develops, it looks quite ugly.
    : I can imagine it leading to more serious problems.

    : Henry.

    My podiatrist suggested the Lamisil goo for outbreaks and is fine with the
    clotramizole for prevention. She told me Lamisl goo only once a day. for
    cure, clotramizole 2x a day if you want it to clear up an outbreak 1x a
    day for prevention. I just pass it on to you.

    Wendy

  38. #38
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:07:01 +1000, "hemyd" <myd!!![email protected]>
    wrote:

    >"W. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:g5ift0$oqc$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> I have done the same as Henry for foot fungus aand find it works well. I
    >> use the clotrimazole everyday all summer. If I get an otbreak, then I use
    >> the Lamisil cream for a few weeks until it is clear and then pack to teh
    >> clotrimazole, which is available generically OTC here in the US.
    >>
    >> Wendy

    >
    >G'day Wendy,
    >
    >The outbreak I have now, in a small area at the side of my foot, is the
    >first one in two years. I've been applying the clotrimazole twice daily for
    >a week now, but so far the infection is not going away. I'll probably have
    >to go for Lamisil, as you do. As the outbreak develops, it looks quite ugly.
    >I can imagine it leading to more serious problems.
    >

    It s best to remember that all pathogens come in different "colors".

    An example is the flu.

    The docs depend on seeng the same ones nany local area.

    But there are many , some with with resistance to certain
    drugs.

    For te ty[es Ihaver enconter, Thaapproach tht worked
    was to stop the growth and continue a treatment until
    all of the infected tissue has been shed.

    On parasites, there is th need to kill all active critters
    and repeat treatment until all eggs are gone. Then to
    watch the enviromnet and other hunan sourcde are o
    longer a threat.

    I may not be easy but shortcuts may lead to a long term
    problem that is intractible.
    >

    Population density is a factor.

    Sports and health studios are a common source.

    Personal beahviormay be a factor.

    al i say diabetics shoud not take the problem as
    of no consequences.

    The there s re blood flow into the limbs.

    Thereis the reduced sense of pain in the limbs.

    Diabetics must be aware of the potential problems
    but use some common sense and live.


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  39. #39
    Chris Malcolm Guest

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    W. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:


    > : >My friend is going to the doctor tomorrow, and wants to know what is
    > : >best for toe nail fungus, He said the last time the doctor wanted to
    > : >give him some oral medication for it, but the pharmacist said the oral
    > : >medication was really hard on the kidneys, so he declined. Being a
    > : >diabetic, is there a good prescription cream or something that will
    > : >help, or maybe a home remedy? TIA


    > : Whey from yoghurt - cured mine when several goes round creams and
    > : ointments failed. Dibble your toes in it; let it dry; wash. Repeat a
    > : couple of times a day. Took about 6 weeks, I think.


    > : Nicky.


    > What a great idea! Now ou can make your own Greek yoguurt by buying the
    > regular and draining it and using the whey on your feet! Kill two birds
    > with one stone:-)


    > Looks like another case of acid from either vinegar or yogurt doing good
    > things!!


    I had a nasty foot skin infection some decades ago. I knew that many
    people with such problems struggled on for years trying only
    semi-successfully to keep them at bay with a variety of prescribed and
    home remedies, so I decided to think about it. The infection was
    clearly made worse by warm damp conditions. It occurred to me that if
    I wore tight fitting leather gloves all day every day the skin of my
    hands would be warm and damp and would probably end up with fungus
    infections too. So I decided to try bare feet in the house and sandals
    out of doors.

    It took a few months to work, but it ended up working very well. To
    begin with I could only wear sandals in the summer, but as the years
    passed my feet developed increasing cold tolerance, and I can now wear
    sandals all year round, just adding socks in the winter. The skin of
    my feet became very healthy, and my feet stopped smelling.

    When I later had a small operation on one of my feet the surgeon
    couldn't believe that the wound and stitches never developed the
    slightest sign of inflammation.

    I conclude that the problem is conventional footwear.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email protected] DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
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  40. #40
    Alan S Guest

    Default Re: Toe Nail Fungus Question

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:34:10 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >What a great idea! Now ou can make your own Greek yoguurt by buying the
    >regular and draining it and using the whey on your feet! Kill two birds
    >with one stone:-)
    >
    >Looks like another case of acid from either vinegar or yogurt doing good
    >things!!
    >
    >Wendy


    I had been looking for a use for the whey; I had been
    throwing it out.

    Now I just need to develop a fungus:-)


    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    --
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