The trouble with diabetics???

Could the trouble with diabetics be that we are used to being ignored as
nuisances???

For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
that had 4.1% carbs.
But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65% carbs,
or 60% sugars.

I remember some time back when somone on this news group called me an idiot
for carefully
calculating the sugar, ie carb, in milk, but the amount of sugar in milk has
a bearing on the amount
of cereal you can eat and enjoy.

Nev.

"Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:4895ee18$0$30463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Could the trouble with diabetics be that we are used to being ignored as
> nuisances???
>
> For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
> that had 4.1% carbs.
> But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65% carbs,
> or 60% sugars.
>
> I remember some time back when somone on this news group called me an
> idiot for carefully
> calculating the sugar, ie carb, in milk, but the amount of sugar in milk
> has a bearing on the amount
> of cereal you can eat and enjoy.

I eat cereal. I never have milk. I'm allergic. And I pay no mind whatever
to the sugar content of the food I eat. Just thee carbs and the fiber.

"Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:4895ee18$0$30463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Could the trouble with diabetics be that we are used to being ignored as
> nuisances???
>
> For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
> that had 4.1% carbs.
> But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65% carbs,
> or 60% sugars.
>
> I remember some time back when somone on this news group called me an
> idiot for carefully
> calculating the sugar, ie carb, in milk, but the amount of sugar in milk
> has a bearing on the amount
> of cereal you can eat and enjoy.
>
> Nev.
>
Now they'll criticize you for eating cereal, which often has too much in
carbs
for type 2s.

Or perhaps you got criticized by someone who, not very recently, earned
an entry in my killfile.

Nev. wrote:

> I remember some time back when somone on this news group called me an idiot
> for carefully
> calculating the sugar, ie carb, in milk, but the amount of sugar in milk has
> a bearing on the amount
> of cereal you can eat and enjoy.
>

??????????? wow, milk has carbs in it......... you HAVE to count those carbs

who on earth said that to you? one of the 'three stooges' that have now
left ???


--
kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-chat.org
www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/n...diagnosed.html

"Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:4895ee18$0$30463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Could the trouble with diabetics be that we are used to being ignored as
> nuisances???
>
> For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
> that had 4.1% carbs.

Did it have actual strawberries in it?

> But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65% carbs,
> or 60% sugars.

Why are you so focussed on the *%* of carbs in a food rather than the actual
amount (with or without the fiber amount)?
bj

WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
$2.90/ 13 oz jar!
Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
Made by SMUCKER'S!
JS

"Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:4895ee18$0$30463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Could the trouble with diabetics be that we are used to being ignored as
> nuisances???
>
> For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
> that had 4.1% carbs.
> But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65% carbs,
> or 60% sugars.
>
> I remember some time back when somone on this news group called me an
> idiot for carefully
> calculating the sugar, ie carb, in milk, but the amount of sugar in milk
> has a bearing on the amount
> of cereal you can eat and enjoy.
>
> Nev.
>
>

"Protagonist" <gysz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:NsSdnTpQxZyqAgvVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
> Made by SMUCKER'S!
> JS
>

Thanks for the info.

But, unfortunately I live down under in the land of Oz.

Nev.

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:34:50 +1000, "Nev." <nev@nowhere.org>
wrote:

>
>"Protagonist" <gysz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:NsSdnTpQxZyqAgvVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
>> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
>> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
>> Made by SMUCKER'S!
>> JS
>>
>
>Thanks for the info.
>
>But, unfortunately I live down under in the land of Oz.
>
>Nev.
>
Nice to see you again Nev.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)

OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
bj

"Protagonist" <gysz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:NsSdnTpQxZyqAgvVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
> Made by SMUCKER'S!
> JS
>
> "Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:4895ee18$0$30463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>
>> For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
>> that had 4.1% carbs.
>> But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65%
>> carbs, or 60% sugars.
>>

"Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in news:4896a30d$0$11883$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:

>
> But, unfortunately I live down under in the land of Oz.

Isn't that why Al Gore invented the internet? Can you order some on line?

--
~Donna A~
http://diabetesandme.wordpress.com/
http://www.thesewingdictionary.com

Protagonist <gysz@yahoo.com> wrote:
: WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
: $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
: Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
: Made by SMUCKER'S!
: JS

At amny stores(at a higher price) it comes in amny flavors inculding
blueberry, apricot , raspberry, as well as the strawberry. It is OK , but
I prefer my home made no sugar added jams that I sweeten, upon opening
with slenda or Equal. they are real fruit and ALMOST as good as real
sugared jam. I don't know their exact carb level, but having some on 2
Waa cracker with an egg breakfst doesn't spike me. Of course, I don't eat
it by the spoomful.

Try the Smuckers, it's not bad.

Wendy

x-no-archive: yes

Protagonist wrote:
> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
> Made by SMUCKER'S!


Those aren't sugar FREE, IIRC, they're no sugar ADDED.

Susan

Protagonist wrote:
> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!

Marketing. It is NOT sugar-free, it's no sugar added to what was
already in the fruit.

Sure, "no sugar added" is better than "sugar added"
but it's still a marketing falsehood.

--
Wes Groleau
"Beware the barrenness of a busy life."
-- George Verwer

"bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
> bj

If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start ordering
his/her coffin for sure.
JS

>
> "Protagonist" <gysz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:NsSdnTpQxZyqAgvVnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
>> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
>> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
>> Made by SMUCKER'S!
>> JS
>>
>> "Nev." <nev@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>> news:4895ee18$0$30463$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>>
>>> For several years I have been buying, and enjoying, a diet strawbery jam
>>> that had 4.1% carbs.
>>> But not anymore. The only strawberry jam I could find today had 65%
>>> carbs, or 60% sugars.
>>>
>
>

"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:6fos0kFclr91U1@mid.individual.net...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Protagonist wrote:
>> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
>> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
>> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
>> Made by SMUCKER'S!
>
>
> Those aren't sugar FREE, IIRC, they're no sugar ADDED.
>
> Susan

These are sugar FREE, theser's another version, Sugar added.
You looking it the wrong brand!
JS

Protagonist wrote:
> "bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
>> bj
>
> If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start
> ordering his/her coffin for sure.

Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto air?

Protagonist wrote:
> "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:6fos0kFclr91U1@mid.individual.net...
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Protagonist wrote:
>>> WallMart sells sugar FREE jams, made with Splenda 5gr carb/tbsp!
>>> $2.90/ 13 oz jar!
>>> Comes in 2 flavors, Strawberies and forgot the other.
>>> Made by SMUCKER'S!
>>
>>
>> Those aren't sugar FREE, IIRC, they're no sugar ADDED.
>>
>> Susan
>
> These are sugar FREE, theser's another version, Sugar added.
> You looking it the wrong brand!


Susan is correct, anything that contains fruit is not sugar free but NO
ADDED SUGAR instead. You have different labelling there. In Oz things are
labelled NO ADDED SUGAR, meaning no table sugar has been added but it might
mean there is honey added. ANd of course they can't call something with
fruit, a sugar-free product.

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:05:00 -0700, "Protagonist"
<gysz@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.co m...
>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
>> bj
>
>If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start ordering
>his/her coffin for sure.
>JS

Wrong Julius.

I can't handle more than 5gm at breakfast without spiking;
other meals are easier.

I have no intention of ordering my coffin for a very long
time.

Sweeping generalisations are a very poor form of exercise.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:05:00 -0700, "Protagonist" <gysz@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.co m...
>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
>> bj
>
>If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start ordering
>his/her coffin for sure.

Don't be daft, Julius. Besides, most of us would rather not be
self-prescribing insulin...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25

Ozgirl wrote in message <6fqce6Fch45nU1@mid.individual.net>...
>Protagonist wrote:
>> "bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than
4.1%.
>>> bj
>>
>> If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start
>> ordering his/her coffin for sure.
>
>Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto air?

I like it on crisped cheese. :-)

Cheri

On 8/5/08 12:03 AM, in article 6fqce6Fch45nU1@mid.individual.net, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

> Protagonist wrote:
>> "bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
>>> bj
>>
>> If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start
>> ordering his/her coffin for sure.
>
> Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto air?
>
>
And not only that, he seems to think that the fruit has no sugar.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:28:18 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
wrote:

>>Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto air?
>
>I like it on crisped cheese. :-)

EW! That sounds just about as horrid as tomato beer :P

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25

Nicky wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:05:00 -0700, "Protagonist" <gysz@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
>>> bj
>>
>> If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start
>> ordering his/her coffin for sure.
>
> Don't be daft, Julius. Besides, most of us would rather not be
> self-prescribing insulin...


And STILL not gaining control. I wish Julius would listen to some common
sense sometimes. His self treatment is just not working and never has over
all the years I have known him in the groups.

Nicky wrote in message <1ihh94toa6i2gihc27oks8rhvolb624cap@4ax.com>...
>On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:28:18 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
>wrote:
>
>>>Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto
air?
>>
>>I like it on crisped cheese. :-)
>
>EW! That sounds just about as horrid as tomato beer :P


Mmmmm tomato beers with crisped cheese, now that sounds good. Too bad
I don't drink anymore. :-)

Cheri

Nicky wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:28:18 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
> wrote:
>
>>> Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto air?
>> I like it on crisped cheese. :-)
>
> EW! That sounds just about as horrid as tomato beer :P
>
> Nicky.
> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25

oh, Nicky

cheddar cheese and strawberry jam on toast

AMAZING


--
kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-chat.org
www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/n...diagnosed.html

Cheri wrote:
> Ozgirl wrote in message <6fqce6Fch45nU1@mid.individual.net>...
>> Protagonist wrote:
>>> "bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:jfCdnct4gbFGgArVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>>> OP was interested in a low carb% in what he used to get.
>>>> That Smucker's has 5g of carb in a 17g serving, way more than 4.1%.
>>>> bj
>>>
>>> If some one can't handle 5 gr of carb/serving, than he should start
>>> ordering his/her coffin for sure.
>>
>> Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto air?
>
> I like it on crisped cheese. :-)


I always knew you were strange

Nicky wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:28:18 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
> wrote:
>
>>> Its not just the jam, surely one spreads it onto something? Onto
>>> air?
>>
>> I like it on crisped cheese. :-)
>
> EW! That sounds just about as horrid as tomato beer :P

maybe Cheri has both together