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Old 11-20-2006, 03:42 PM
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Mark Probert wrote:
> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>> 666 wrote:
>>
>>> "JohnDoe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>>> news:455d6f78$0$9457$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl. ..
>>>> Ed_Zep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, Jan, you should get yourself down to the nearest comedy club on
>>>>>> open mike night. You are a natural for stand-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip more "truth">
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
>>>>>> The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
>>>>>> Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
>>>>>> Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
>>>>>> To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
>>>>>
>>>>> So you know what's in Aspartame then?
>>>> N-L-a-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine
>>>> 1-methyl ester
>>>>
>>>> That's what's in it.
>>> Not quite.
>>>
>>> methanol-better known as wood alcohol-deadly poison-which further
>>> breaks down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic and very toxic,
>>> as well as formic acid and a brain tumor agent called
>>> diketopiperazine (DKP).

>>
>> None of those things are in aspartame.

>
> Correct. They are the metabilite's of aspartame, but they are also the
> metabolites of many other foods that people routinely eat.
>
>

That would be metabolites of aspartame.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:44 PM
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"JohnDoe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>>news:455d6f78$0$9457$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.n l...
>>> Ed_Zep wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Oh, Jan, you should get yourself down to the nearest comedy club on
>>>>>open mike night. You are a natural for stand-up.
>>>>>
>>>>><snip more "truth">


>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you know what's in Aspartame then?
>>>
>>> N-L-a-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine
>>> 1-methyl ester
>>>
>>> That's what's in it.

>>
>>Not quite.
>>
>>methanol-better known as wood alcohol-deadly poison-which further breaks
>>down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic and very toxic, as well as
>>formic acid and a brain tumor agent called diketopiperazine (DKP).
>>

>
> None of those things are in aspartame.


Of course they are.
> --
> Peter Bowditch



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Old 11-20-2006, 06:44 PM
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"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>> 666 wrote:


LOL!!

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

http://www.dorway.com/badnews.html

http://www.dorway.com/indexnew.html


http://www.rense.com/general33/legal.htm


http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/


http://www.aspartamesafety.com/


http://www.aspartame.com/


http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/aspartame.htm


http://presidiotex.com/aspartame/


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=3981


http://www.organicconsumers.org/toxic/aspartame.cfm


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Old 11-20-2006, 06:44 PM
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Mark Probert wrote:
> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>
>> 666 wrote:
>>
>>> "JohnDoe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>>> news:455d6f78$0$9457$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl. ..
>>>
>>>> Ed_Zep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, Jan, you should get yourself down to the nearest comedy club on
>>>>>> open mike night. You are a natural for stand-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip more "truth">
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
>>>>>> The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
>>>>>> Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
>>>>>> Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
>>>>>> To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you know what's in Aspartame then?
>>>>
>>>> N-L-a-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine
>>>> 1-methyl ester
>>>>
>>>> That's what's in it.
>>>
>>> Not quite.
>>>
>>> methanol-better known as wood alcohol-deadly poison-which further
>>> breaks down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic and very toxic,
>>> as well as formic acid and a brain tumor agent called
>>> diketopiperazine (DKP).

>>
>>
>> None of those things are in aspartame.

>
>
> Correct. They are the metabilite's of aspartame, but they are also the
> metabolites of many other foods that people routinely eat.
>
>


Actually, methanol, formaldehyde etc are metabolites present in all
people. when I was in graduate school, in the '70s, one of the projects
in the lab was the analysis of volatiles in blood and urine.

Almost every volataile you could name was found in blood and urine,
alcohols, ethers, esters, furans, nitrogen cpds.

j.
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:08 PM
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nospam@nospam.net wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
>> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>>
>>> 666 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "JohnDoe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>>>> news:455d6f78$0$9457$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl. ..
>>>>
>>>>> Ed_Zep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, Jan, you should get yourself down to the nearest comedy club on
>>>>>>> open mike night. You are a natural for stand-up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip more "truth">
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
>>>>>>> The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
>>>>>>> Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
>>>>>>> Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
>>>>>>> To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you know what's in Aspartame then?
>>>>>
>>>>> N-L-a-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine
>>>>> 1-methyl ester
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what's in it.
>>>>
>>>> Not quite.
>>>>
>>>> methanol-better known as wood alcohol-deadly poison-which further
>>>> breaks down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic and very toxic,
>>>> as well as formic acid and a brain tumor agent called
>>>> diketopiperazine (DKP).
>>>
>>>
>>> None of those things are in aspartame.

>>
>>
>> Correct. They are the metabilite's of aspartame, but they are also the
>> metabolites of many other foods that people routinely eat.
>>
>>

>
> Actually, methanol, formaldehyde etc are metabolites present in all
> people.


But they do not have SF ("special factor") which aspartame metabolites
have. This makes those metabolites more toxic nanogram for nanogram.


when I was in graduate school, in the '70s, one of the projects
> in the lab was the analysis of volatiles in blood and urine.
>
> Almost every volataile you could name was found in blood and urine,
> alcohols, ethers, esters, furans, nitrogen cpds.
>
> j.

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Old 11-20-2006, 11:11 PM
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"JohnDoe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
> >>news:455d6f78$0$9457$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.n l...
> >>> Ed_Zep wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>Oh, Jan, you should get yourself down to the nearest comedy club on
> >>>>>open mike night. You are a natural for stand-up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>><snip more "truth">

>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So you know what's in Aspartame then?
> >>>
> >>> N-L-a-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine
> >>> 1-methyl ester
> >>>
> >>> That's what's in it.
> >>
> >>Not quite.
> >>
> >>methanol-better known as wood alcohol-deadly poison-which further breaks
> >>down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic and very toxic, as well as
> >>formic acid and a brain tumor agent called diketopiperazine (DKP).
> >>

> >
> > None of those things are in aspartame.

>
> Of course they are.


Maybe they're in *yours* but they're not in ours!

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Old 11-21-2006, 12:17 AM
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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>"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
>news:gn33m2te0e9vua2ob0r2jcgbjl4m1m0g51@4ax.com.. .
>> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"JohnDoe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>>>news:455d6f78$0$9457$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet. nl...
>>>> Ed_Zep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, Jan, you should get yourself down to the nearest comedy club on
>>>>>>open mike night. You are a natural for stand-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip more "truth">

>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you know what's in Aspartame then?
>>>>
>>>> N-L-a-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine
>>>> 1-methyl ester
>>>>
>>>> That's what's in it.
>>>
>>>Not quite.
>>>
>>>methanol-better known as wood alcohol-deadly poison-which further breaks
>>>down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic and very toxic, as well as
>>>formic acid and a brain tumor agent called diketopiperazine (DKP).
>>>

>>
>> None of those things are in aspartame.

>
>Of course they are.


Aspartame has the chemical formula C14H18N2O5.

The compound contains nothing but C14H18N2O5.

It does not contain methanol (CH3O8), it does not contain formaldehyde
(H2CO), it does not contain formic acid (CH2O2) and it does not
contain diketopiperazine (which is a class of compounds which have
differing molecular structures).

Here's something I wrote some time ago when an ignoramus was saying
something like "thimerosal is 50% ethylmercury". It is just as
relevant with this piece of idiocy.

Don't let your sugar bowl get near a naked flame. Sugar is 31.25%
natural gas (methane) by weight. Wait, it's 68.75% carbon dioxide by
weight, so that will probably put out the fire. If the CO2 doesn't
work, sugar is also 62.5% water by weight so that might help. It's a
pity about the 54.2% ethanol by weight, though, because that could
make it flare up again.

Can you see how idiotic it is to talk about one chemical compound
being x% of another yet? If not, don't go near sugar because you might
burst into flame, drown, suffocate and get drunk.

Did I mention that sugar is also 87.5% carbon monoxide by weight and
will poison you? And the 37.5% carbon by weight will make a mess of
your clothes (unless you squeeze it real hard and turn it into
diamonds).
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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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