Update

I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today was 114, and it was 198
2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my carbs and eating more
vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic, I almost never ate
vegetables. They would always try to get me but I don't like them. Now
I will have to eat them for my health and because I get so hungry. I
could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I shouldn't.
Mother got the papers from the school today and we got a referral
to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I have an appointment for
next Wednesday after school.
I was running low on test strips and we didn't have time to go the
base to gem more so we bought some for the Accu-chex meter. I compared
the test with my QID meter and they were quite a bit different. the
Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147. Something might be wrong with
one of the meters.
I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends house tonight. We are
working on a school project together. I'll be taking my test meter and
insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what she does when I poke my
finger to get blood and inject my insulin.
Amber

thanks for the update Amber........ good luck with
your school project, and congratulations on eating
more veggies :-)

you will come thru this diabetes and be healthier
than your peers are in another 20 years when age
has had a chance to 'injure' them silently
(meanwhile you keep an excellent diet/exercise
regime going)

i hope your friend isn't bothered by you testing
and shooting, but do try to either show her
everything if she's interested, or hide it from
her discretely if she appears to be aprehensive
about it

take care!

kate
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<amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171680467.984438.165120@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today
was 114, and it was 198
> 2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my carbs
and eating more
> vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic, I
almost never ate
> vegetables. They would always try to get me but
I don't like them. Now
> I will have to eat them for my health and
because I get so hungry. I
> could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I
shouldn't.
> Mother got the papers from the school today
and we got a referral
> to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I
have an appointment for
> next Wednesday after school.
> I was running low on test strips and we
didn't have time to go the
> base to gem more so we bought some for the
Accu-chex meter. I compared
> the test with my QID meter and they were quite a
bit different. the
> Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147. Something
might be wrong with
> one of the meters.
> I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends house
tonight. We are
> working on a school project together. I'll be
taking my test meter and
> insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what
she does when I poke my
> finger to get blood and inject my insulin.
> Amber
>

<amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171680467.984438.165120@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
> I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today was 114, and it was 198
> 2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my carbs and eating more
> vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic, I almost never ate
> vegetables. They would always try to get me but I don't like them. Now
> I will have to eat them for my health and because I get so hungry. I
> could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I shouldn't.
> Mother got the papers from the school today and we got a referral
> to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I have an appointment for
> next Wednesday after school.
> I was running low on test strips and we didn't have time to go the
> base to gem more so we bought some for the Accu-chex meter. I compared
> the test with my QID meter and they were quite a bit different. the
> Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147. Something might be wrong with
> one of the meters.
> I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends house tonight. We are
> working on a school project together. I'll be taking my test meter and
> insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what she does when I poke my
> finger to get blood and inject my insulin.

Actually your numbers aren't that much off. Keep in mind that meters are
not 100% accurate and those numbers are well within the acceptable range of
error. As for the pizza, you could have one slice and then the toppings
from another, along with a salad.

Amber is a type 1 teenager who needs her carbs

feel free to have 2 slices of pizza with the crust
on both of them, Amber..... you may find that
splitting your insulin into 2 doses will meet the
pizza delayed peak effect better than 1 shot in
advance

and a salad is always a great idea (lots of dark
green leafy veggies) to go with that pizza you
have

kate
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in
message news:sAvBh.84$aM.22@trndny03...
>
> <amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
news:1171680467.984438.165120@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
> > I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today
was 114, and it was 198
> > 2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my
carbs and eating more
> > vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic,
I almost never ate
> > vegetables. They would always try to get me
but I don't like them. Now
> > I will have to eat them for my health and
because I get so hungry. I
> > could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I
shouldn't.
> > Mother got the papers from the school today
and we got a referral
> > to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I
have an appointment for
> > next Wednesday after school.
> > I was running low on test strips and we
didn't have time to go the
> > base to gem more so we bought some for the
Accu-chex meter. I compared
> > the test with my QID meter and they were quite
a bit different. the
> > Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147.
Something might be wrong with
> > one of the meters.
> > I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends
house tonight. We are
> > working on a school project together. I'll be
taking my test meter and
> > insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what
she does when I poke my
> > finger to get blood and inject my insulin.
>
> Actually your numbers aren't that much off.
Keep in mind that meters are
> not 100% accurate and those numbers are well
within the acceptable range of
> error. As for the pizza, you could have one
slice and then the toppings
> from another, along with a salad.
>
>

On Feb 16, 7:03 pm, "TigerLily" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> thanks for the update Amber........ good luck with
> your school project, and congratulations on eating
> more veggies :-)
>
> you will come thru this diabetes and be healthier
> than your peers are in another 20 years when age
> has had a chance to 'injure' them silently
> (meanwhile you keep an excellent diet/exercise
> regime going)
>
> i hope your friend isn't bothered by you testing
> and shooting, but do try to either show her
> everything if she's interested, or hide it from
> her discretely if she appears to be aprehensive
> about it
>
> take care!
>
> kate
> --
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> I have no medical qualifications beyond my own
> experience.
> Choose your advisers carefully, because experience
> can be
> an expensive teacher.
>
> <amber.jea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171680467.984438.165120@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...> I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today
>
> was 114, and it was 198> 2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my carbs
> and eating more
> > vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic, I
> almost never ate
> > vegetables. They would always try to get me but
>
> I don't like them. Now> I will have to eat them for my health and
>
> because I get so hungry. I> could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I
> shouldn't.
> > Mother got the papers from the school today
>
> and we got a referral> to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I
>
> have an appointment for> next Wednesday after school.
> > I was running low on test strips and we
>
> didn't have time to go the> base to gem more so we bought some for the
>
> Accu-chex meter. I compared> the test with my QID meter and they were quite a
> bit different. the
> > Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147. Something
> might be wrong with
> > one of the meters.
> > I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends house
> tonight. We are
> > working on a school project together. I'll be
>
> taking my test meter and> insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what
>
> she does when I poke my
>
> > finger to get blood and inject my insulin.
> > Amber

I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.
It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and they ordered pizza. I
was going to test 2 hours but I forgot and didn't test until 3 1/2
hours. It was 293. I gook my Levemir and we talked most of the night.
When I got home this morning I tested 192 before I ate anything.
They were fixing waffles for breakfast, I injected my novolog and
only ate some sausage and an egg. My glucose was down to 128 after 2
hours. I hope the new doctor increases my insulin so I can eat more
because I am already hungry and only eating vegetables and meat almost
makes me sick.
Amber

On 17 Feb 2007 10:50:22 -0800, "amber.jean.j@gmail.com"
<amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.

Have you talked to your doc about going on a DAFNE (Dose Adjusted For
Normal Eating) course yet? The whole idea of it is that you can eat
what you want and know how to work out the right amount of insulin to
cover it - of course eating healthily is best, but the occasional
pizza fest can be enjoyed too.

Nicky.
T2 DX 05/2004
A1c 5.5% BMI 25 D&E
100ug Thyroxine

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:lsket2pb5florv1v50ksg3ricauefn2h9j@4ax.com...
> On 17 Feb 2007 10:50:22 -0800, "amber.jean.j@gmail.com"
> <amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.
>
> Have you talked to your doc about going on a DAFNE (Dose Adjusted For
> Normal Eating) course yet? The whole idea of it is that you can eat
> what you want and know how to work out the right amount of insulin to
> cover it - of course eating healthily is best, but the occasional
> pizza fest can be enjoyed too.
>

She hasn't even had the first visit with an endo yet.
Give her time!
bj

In alt.support.diabetes on 17 Feb 2007 10:50:22 -0800 in Msg.#
<1171738222.749947.243960@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>,
"amber.jean.j@gmail.com" <amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.
> It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and they ordered pizza.

I'm a T2 who is not on insulin. I eat pizza. I pay attention to how much I
eat & how often I eat it. I always eat thin crust now - and already it's now
my favorite kind, weird huh? <G> I make sure the pizza has both meat &
veggies on it - no more vegetarian pizzas for me. My favorite is Papa John's
thin crust with Pepperoni, fresh tomatoes & banana peppers, If I get
finished eating the pizza part of the piece & there's crust only leftover, I
no longer eat the crust.

So, I've made changes. I don't find those changes unbearable.

I do still fight hunger & I do still struggle with what to eat & how much &
when to eat it. I'm working on it.

How were your friends about your testing & injecting? Some curious &
interested & some ewwww about needles? I'm guessing here.

--
DonnaB

Amber, when do you see the endo? you might want to
call your GP and get more insulin NOW so that you
can eat more carbs in your diet..... living on
veggies and meat is doable, but you are young and
need some carbs

before they invented 'insulin' they used to keep
kids on starvation diets to allow them to live
longer............ sigh

kate
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<amber.jean> wrote in message

> I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I
shouldn't have had it.
> It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and
they ordered pizza. I
> was going to test 2 hours but I forgot and
didn't test until 3 1/2
> hours. It was 293. I gook my Levemir and we
talked most of the night.
> When I got home this morning I tested 192 before
I ate anything.
> They were fixing waffles for breakfast, I
injected my novolog and
> only ate some sausage and an egg. My glucose was
down to 128 after 2
> hours. I hope the new doctor increases my
insulin so I can eat more
> because I am already hungry and only eating
vegetables and meat almost
> makes me sick.
> Amber
>

On Feb 17, 12:51 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> In alt.support.diabetes on 17 Feb 2007 10:50:22 -0800 in Msg.#
> <1171738222.749947.243...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>,
>
> "amber.jea...@gmail.com" <amber.jea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.
> > It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and they ordered pizza.
>
> I'm a T2 who is not on insulin. I eat pizza. I pay attention to how much I
> eat & how often I eat it. I always eat thin crust now - and already it's now
> my favorite kind, weird huh? <G> I make sure the pizza has both meat &
> veggies on it - no more vegetarian pizzas for me. My favorite is Papa John's
> thin crust with Pepperoni, fresh tomatoes & banana peppers, If I get
> finished eating the pizza part of the piece & there's crust only leftover, I
> no longer eat the crust.
>
> So, I've made changes. I don't find those changes unbearable.
>
> I do still fight hunger & I do still struggle with what to eat & how much &
> when to eat it. I'm working on it.
>
> How were your friends about your testing & injecting? Some curious &
> interested & some ewwww about needles? I'm guessing here.
>
> --
> DonnaB

They had the thick crust pizza. I've been told after I learn to
adjust my own insulin I can eat anything I want. I'm not sure that
goes for snacks, that would require another insulin injection.
My girlfriend acted kinda strange after I showed her how I test and
inject insulin. She treated me almost like I was a different person.
She needs to learn more about diabetes and so do I.
Amber

On Feb 17, 6:36 pm, "TigerLily" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Amber, when do you see the endo? you might want to
> call your GP and get more insulin NOW so that you
> can eat more carbs in your diet..... living on
> veggies and meat is doable, but you are young and
> need some carbs
>
> before they invented 'insulin' they used to keep
> kids on starvation diets to allow them to live
> longer............ sigh
>
> kate
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> I have no medical qualifications beyond my own
> experience.
> Choose your advisers carefully, because experience
> can be
> an expensive teacher.
>
> <amber.jean> wrote in message
> > I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I
>
> shouldn't have had it.> It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and
>
> they ordered pizza. I> was going to test 2 hours but I forgot and
>
> didn't test until 3 1/2> hours. It was 293. I gook my Levemir and we
>
> talked most of the night.> When I got home this morning I tested 192 before
> I ate anything.
> > They were fixing waffles for breakfast, I
>
> injected my novolog and> only ate some sausage and an egg. My glucose was
> down to 128 after 2
> > hours. I hope the new doctor increases my
>
> insulin so I can eat more> because I am already hungry and only eating
>
> vegetables and meat almost
>
> > makes me sick.
> > Amber

I have an appointment for next Wednesday after school to see the
endo. I could be eating more now but I don't want to get high glucose
tests. I got my e calorieking carbohydrate counterbook, it makes it
east to calculate the carbs and I an keep the records in my log book.
I hope the endo increases my insulin right away.
Amber

In alt.support.diabetes on 17 Feb 2007 19:27:19 -0800 in Msg.#
<1171769239.942305.9940@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.c om>,
"amber.jean.j@gmail.com" <amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 17, 12:51 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > In alt.support.diabetes on 17 Feb 2007 10:50:22 -0800 in Msg.#
> > <1171738222.749947.243...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>,
> >
> > "amber.jea...@gmail.com" <amber.jea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.
> > > It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and they ordered pizza.
> >
> > I'm a T2 who is not on insulin. I eat pizza. I pay attention to how much I
> > eat & how often I eat it. I always eat thin crust now - and already it's now
> > my favorite kind, weird huh? <G> I make sure the pizza has both meat &
> > veggies on it - no more vegetarian pizzas for me. My favorite is Papa John's
> > thin crust with Pepperoni, fresh tomatoes & banana peppers, If I get
> > finished eating the pizza part of the piece & there's crust only leftover, I
> > no longer eat the crust.
> >
> > So, I've made changes. I don't find those changes unbearable.
> >
> > I do still fight hunger & I do still struggle with what to eat & how much &
> > when to eat it. I'm working on it.
> >
> > How were your friends about your testing & injecting? Some curious &
> > interested & some ewwww about needles? I'm guessing here.
>
> They had the thick crust pizza. I've been told after I learn to
> adjust my own insulin I can eat anything I want. ...

Sure, but it is still important to eat healthily. And, that's going to mean
some kind of balance. Whatever that balance is for you will be individual to
you. I was just describing a way I can still eat something I love (pizza) &
keep things balanced between protein, veggies & carbs. Things you work out
for you will be different. But, my big point was that you don't need to
think you're going to have to give up pizza forever, ya know?

> My girlfriend acted kinda strange after I showed her how I test and
> inject insulin. She treated me almost like I was a different person.
> She needs to learn more about diabetes and so do I.

Well, I hope that it was just the newness of it all! Give her a chance &
some time.

--
DonnaB
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg.
...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2

"It's like a healthy French fry that makes you mad." - Nicole talking about
carrot sticks, THE CLASS, 02-2007

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:sAvBh.84$aM.22@trndny03...
:
: <amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote in message
: news:1171680467.984438.165120@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
: > I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today was 114, and it was 198
: > 2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my carbs and eating more
: > vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic, I almost never ate
: > vegetables. They would always try to get me but I don't like them. Now
: > I will have to eat them for my health and because I get so hungry. I
: > could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I shouldn't.
: > Mother got the papers from the school today and we got a referral
: > to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I have an appointment for
: > next Wednesday after school.
: > I was running low on test strips and we didn't have time to go the
: > base to gem more so we bought some for the Accu-chex meter. I compared
: > the test with my QID meter and they were quite a bit different. the
: > Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147. Something might be wrong with
: > one of the meters.
: > I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends house tonight. We are
: > working on a school project together. I'll be taking my test meter and
: > insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what she does when I poke my
: > finger to get blood and inject my insulin.
:
: Actually your numbers aren't that much off. Keep in mind that meters are
: not 100% accurate and those numbers are well within the acceptable range
of
: error. As for the pizza, you could have one slice and then the toppings
: from another, along with a salad.
:
:
Nothing personal Julie, but this is my main GRIPE with T2's especially not
on
insulin stating things to a newly diagnosed T1 teenager. Amber could have
very well have had 2-3 slices of pizza because she needs the extra carbs
because she's still growing and needs the food. Is it healthy? Who knows..
It has been said that pizza is the most healthy out of all fast food. Even
moreso,
Amber is a teenager and needs to be able to "fit" in... and eating pizza at
a
sleepover is fitting in. Her mental health needs cared for as well as her
physical health if not moreso imho. I just don't want Amber to think she
cannot
eat normally and fit in with her friends.

You are correct about the meter readings, so thank you for mentioning that
since no one else had.


--
Reisa, T1
dx-5/00 asd-7/00
Animas IR1250 pumper
Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 36-38u
Last A1C: Rising! oPPs!

amber.jean.j@gmail.com <amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote:
: On Feb 17, 12:51 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
: wrote:
: > In alt.support.diabetes on 17 Feb 2007 10:50:22 -0800 in Msg.#
: > <1171738222.749947.243...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>,
: >
: > "amber.jea...@gmail.com" <amber.jea...@gmail.com> wrote:
: > > I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know I shouldn't have had it.
: > > It was 4 hours after dinner and I was hungry and they ordered pizza.
: >
: > I'm a T2 who is not on insulin. I eat pizza. I pay attention to how much I
: > eat & how often I eat it. I always eat thin crust now - and already it's now
: > my favorite kind, weird huh? <G> I make sure the pizza has both meat &
: > veggies on it - no more vegetarian pizzas for me. My favorite is Papa John's
: > thin crust with Pepperoni, fresh tomatoes & banana peppers, If I get
: > finished eating the pizza part of the piece & there's crust only leftover, I
: > no longer eat the crust.
: >
: > So, I've made changes. I don't find those changes unbearable.
: >
: > I do still fight hunger & I do still struggle with what to eat & how much &
: > when to eat it. I'm working on it.
: >
: > How were your friends about your testing & injecting? Some curious &
: > interested & some ewwww about needles? I'm guessing here.
: >
: > --
: > DonnaB

: They had the thick crust pizza. I've been told after I learn to
: adjust my own insulin I can eat anything I want. I'm not sure that
: goes for snacks, that would require another insulin injection.
: My girlfriend acted kinda strange after I showed her how I test and
: inject insulin. She treated me almost like I was a different person.
: She needs to learn more about diabetes and so do I.
: Amber

She too, will get used to it as will your other friends, particularly as
you begin to assume a casual attitude as it becomes part of your routine.

Wendy

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:01:46 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
<wbaker@panix.com> wrote:


>
>She too, will get used to it as will your other friends, particularly as
>you begin to assume a casual attitude as it becomes part of your routine.
>
>Wendy

People do get used to it... And, you would be truly surprised at how
many diabetics there really are out there who do understand, and for
each one of them, figure they have a number of family members who
understand....

I know, at first it may seem hard... But lots of people have to become
accustomed to things that seem difficult or awkward at first. Just
think of moms who have to find a way to nurse their infants when they
are travelling.... I should think that would be a big hurdle for some
women.... and yet, it is the most natural thing there is. For us,
testing is just what we have to do... Thank God that there are now
meters and test strips! only about 20-30 yrs ago, there were no such
things available.

Will, T2

On Feb 18, 7:34�am, "rk" <p_haha_med...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:sAvBh.84$aM.22@trndny03...
> :: <amber.jea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> :news:1171680467.984438.165120@s48g2000cws.googleg roups.com...
> : > * I'm doing better, pre breakfast test today was 114, and it was 198
> : > 2 hours after lunch. I have cut down on my carbs and eating more
> : > vegetables and meat. Before I became diabetic, I almost never ate
> : > vegetables. They would always try to get me but I don't like them. Now
> : > I will have to eat them for my health and because I get so hungry. I
> : > could go for 3-4 slices of pizza but I know I shouldn't.
> : > * Mother got the papers from the school today and we got a referral
> : > to an endocrinologist doctor from the base. I have an appointment for
> : > next Wednesday after school.
> : > * I was running low on test strips and we didn't have time to go the
> : > base to gem more so we bought some for the Accu-chex meter. I compared
> : > the test with my QID meter and they were quite a bit different. the
> : > Accu-chex was 135 and the QID was 147. Something might be wrong with
> : > one of the meters.
> : > *I'm off to a sleepover at my girlfriends house tonight. We are
> : > working on a school project together. I'll be taking my test meter and
> : > insulin pens with me. I can't wait to see what she does when I poke my
> : > finger to get blood and inject my insulin.
> :
> : Actually your numbers aren't that much off. *Keep in mind that metersare
> : not 100% accurate and those numbers are well within the acceptable range
> of
> : error. *As for the pizza, you could have one slice and then the toppings
> : from another, along with a salad.
> :
> :
> Nothing personal Julie, but this is my main GRIPE with T2's especially not
> on
> insulin stating things to a newly diagnosed T1 teenager. *Amber could have
> very well have had 2-3 slices of pizza because she needs the extra carbs
> because she's still growing and needs the food. *Is it healthy? Who knows..
> It has been said that pizza is the most healthy out of all fast food. *Even
> moreso,
> Amber is a teenager and needs to be able to "fit" in... and eating pizza at
> a
> sleepover is fitting in. *Her mental health needs cared for as well as her
> physical health if not moreso imho. *I just don't want Amber to think she
> cannot
> eat normally and fit in with her friends.

This is a very important point Reisa and I'm glad you made it.
Growing up with diabetes is hard enough with all of the things one has
to do to try and lasso the roller coaster blood sugars. Small things
like eating pizza with friends can make one feel like they are not so
different after all. Besides, pizza gets a bad rap and really is a
pretty good food compared to many other fast foods.

Amazing how some of the posters in here who throw hissy fits when a T1
has anything to say about diet for a T2 are the ones who seem to jump
in and give medication advice to T1's...often times the wrong
advice.

Kurt

On 18 Feb 2007 10:26:45 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Besides, pizza gets a bad rap and really is a
>pretty good food compared to many other fast foods.

Hi Kurt,

I like pizza, and I enjoy it about once a week... As long as I do not
pig out, and limit myself to only 2 or 3 modest slices of thin crust
pizza, I do fine...

We cannot quit living... I have come to realize that quality of life
counts for something, also... The key is moderation and testing for
each individual to know what they can safely consume in the way of an
occasional pizza. Some T2s can safely indulge in pizza to a greater
extent than others. As Loretta often says, we are all different...
Even T1s are different, from what I can tell... We all have our own
individual responses to different dietary items.

Will, T2

On 17 Feb 2007 19:27:19 -0800, "amber.jean.j@gmail.com"
<amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote:

> My girlfriend acted kinda strange after I showed her how I test and
>inject insulin. She treated me almost like I was a different person.
>She needs to learn more about diabetes and so do I.
>Amber

In my first few days after diagnosis I was ultra-discreet
about testing in public. As time went on it became no
different to blowing my nose; eventually, I found it was
often a conversation starter.

I wrote a bit more on this here:
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...etiquette.html

I've met people all around the world now who noticed me
testing and introduced themselves as another type 2.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news:dm6ht2d6jq8jm2mpt39gsnlm9d3ui05s9r@4ax.com...
: On 18 Feb 2007 10:26:45 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com>
: wrote:
:
: >Besides, pizza gets a bad rap and really is a
: >pretty good food compared to many other fast foods.
:
: Hi Kurt,
:
: I like pizza, and I enjoy it about once a week... As long as I do not
: pig out, and limit myself to only 2 or 3 modest slices of thin crust
: pizza, I do fine...
:
: We cannot quit living... I have come to realize that quality of life
: counts for something, also... The key is moderation and testing for
: each individual to know what they can safely consume in the way of an
: occasional pizza. Some T2s can safely indulge in pizza to a greater
: extent than others. As Loretta often says, we are all different...
: Even T1s are different, from what I can tell... We all have our own
: individual responses to different dietary items.
:
: Will, T2

Exactly Will... that is a perfect posting to help reassure a new young T1
that her life isn't over with and has to stop eating the things that she
likes
especially around her friends that would make them look at her a bit odd.

It's hard enough being a teenager, lord knows they don't need anything else
to throw a monkeywrench in to upturn it even more.

Thank you.

Reisa

are you keeping a record of how FEW carbs you are
eating daily?? ? that will be Good information for
the Endo to have on hand! ! !

good luck Wed !

kate
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<amber.jean.j@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171769830.623390.30680@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 17, 6:36 pm, "TigerLily"
<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > Amber, when do you see the endo? you might
want to
> > call your GP and get more insulin NOW so that
you
> > can eat more carbs in your diet..... living on
> > veggies and meat is doable, but you are young
and
> > need some carbs
> >
> > before they invented 'insulin' they used to
keep
> > kids on starvation diets to allow them to live
> > longer............ sigh
> >
> > kate
> > --
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> > More info:http://www.diabetic-talk.org/
> > http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm
> > I have no medical qualifications beyond my own
> > experience.
> > Choose your advisers carefully, because
experience
> > can be
> > an expensive teacher.
> >
> > <amber.jean> wrote in message
> > > I had 1 slice of pizza last night, I know
I
> >
> > shouldn't have had it.> It was 4 hours after
dinner and I was hungry and
> >
> > they ordered pizza. I> was going to test 2
hours but I forgot and
> >
> > didn't test until 3 1/2> hours. It was 293. I
gook my Levemir and we
> >
> > talked most of the night.> When I got home
this morning I tested 192 before
> > I ate anything.
> > > They were fixing waffles for breakfast, I
> >
> > injected my novolog and> only ate some sausage
and an egg. My glucose was
> > down to 128 after 2
> > > hours. I hope the new doctor increases my
> >
> > insulin so I can eat more> because I am
already hungry and only eating
> >
> > vegetables and meat almost
> >
> > > makes me sick.
> > > Amber
>
> I have an appointment for next Wednesday
after school to see the
> endo. I could be eating more now but I don't
want to get high glucose
> tests. I got my e calorieking carbohydrate
counterbook, it makes it
> east to calculate the carbs and I an keep the
records in my log book.
> I hope the endo increases my insulin right away.
> Amber
>

"rk" <p_haha_medium@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:_pednZiTy9S470XYnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...

> Nothing personal Julie, but this is my main GRIPE with T2's especially not
> on
> insulin stating things to a newly diagnosed T1 teenager. Amber could have
> very well have had 2-3 slices of pizza because she needs the extra carbs
> because she's still growing and needs the food. Is it healthy? Who
> knows..
> It has been said that pizza is the most healthy out of all fast food.
> Even
> moreso,
> Amber is a teenager and needs to be able to "fit" in... and eating pizza
> at
> a
> sleepover is fitting in. Her mental health needs cared for as well as her
> physical health if not moreso imho. I just don't want Amber to think she
> cannot
> eat normally and fit in with her friends.
>
> You are correct about the meter readings, so thank you for mentioning that
> since no one else had.

Well, I was a teenager once who didn't eat pizza. My friends always tried
to get me to eat it but I never liked the stuff. I only started eating
it...or I should say trying to eat it when I married an Italian. I still
don't like it.

And don't forget, my own daughter is allergic to 7 different foods. Regular
pizza is something she'll never have, barring some miracle that makes those
food allergies go away. Alas her class has monthly pizza parties. So I am
reminded all too often about the "fitting in" thing when I have to make from
scratch, a gluten and dairy free pizza for her lunch.

Julie Bove wrote:
> "rk" <p_haha_medium@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:_pednZiTy9S470XYnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
>
>> Nothing personal Julie, but this is my main GRIPE with
T2's
>> especially not on
>> insulin stating things to a newly diagnosed T1 teenager.
Amber
>> could have very well have had 2-3 slices of pizza because
she needs
>> the extra carbs because she's still growing and needs the
food. Is
>> it healthy? Who knows..
>> It has been said that pizza is the most healthy out of
all fast food.
>> Even
>> moreso,
>> Amber is a teenager and needs to be able to "fit" in...
and eating
>> pizza at
>> a
>> sleepover is fitting in. Her mental health needs cared
for as well
>> as her physical health if not moreso imho. I just don't
want Amber
>> to think she cannot
>> eat normally and fit in with her friends.
>>
>> You are correct about the meter readings, so thank you
for
>> mentioning that since no one else had.
>
> Well, I was a teenager once who didn't eat pizza. My
friends always
> tried to get me to eat it but I never liked the stuff. I
only
> started eating it...or I should say trying to eat it when
I married
> an Italian. I still don't like it.

I didn't realise your hubby was Italian, is Bove an Italian
name then?

rk <p_haha_medium@gmail.com> wrote:
: "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:dm6ht2d6jq8jm2mpt39gsnlm9d3ui05s9r@4ax.com...
: : On 18 Feb 2007 10:26:45 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com>
: : wrote:
: :
: : >Besides, pizza gets a bad rap and really is a
: : >pretty good food compared to many other fast foods.
: :
: : Hi Kurt,
: :
: : I like pizza, and I enjoy it about once a week... As long as I do not
: : pig out, and limit myself to only 2 or 3 modest slices of thin crust
: : pizza, I do fine...
: :
: : We cannot quit living... I have come to realize that quality of life
: : counts for something, also... The key is moderation and testing for
: : each individual to know what they can safely consume in the way of an
: : occasional pizza. Some T2s can safely indulge in pizza to a greater
: : extent than others. As Loretta often says, we are all different...
: : Even T1s are different, from what I can tell... We all have our own
: : individual responses to different dietary items.
: :
: : Will, T2

: Exactly Will... that is a perfect posting to help reassure a new young T1
: that her life isn't over with and has to stop eating the things that she
: likes
: especially around her friends that would make them look at her a bit odd.

: It's hard enough being a teenager, lord knows they don't need anything else
: to throw a monkeywrench in to upturn it even more.

: Thank you.

: Reisa

I was a teen with a weight problem adn there was no diet soda at that
time. That is why I learned to drink black coffee(no calories) so I cul
dhave something that wasn't childish with all the kids. I envier those
having soda or milkshakes or etc., but, at least I wasn't regarded as
either a baby or something weird.

The weight wasn't obese, just chunky, but I was wanted to be a ballet
dancer at the time and was studying intensely.

Wendy

"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
news:ercj4i$llr$1@reader2.panix.com...
: rk <p_haha_medium@gmail.com> wrote:
:: "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
:: news:dm6ht2d6jq8jm2mpt39gsnlm9d3ui05s9r@4ax.com...
:: : On 18 Feb 2007 10:26:45 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com>
:: : wrote:
:: :
:: : >Besides, pizza gets a bad rap and really is a
:: : >pretty good food compared to many other fast foods.
:: :
:: : Hi Kurt,
:: :
:: : I like pizza, and I enjoy it about once a week... As long as I do not
:: : pig out, and limit myself to only 2 or 3 modest slices of thin crust
:: : pizza, I do fine...
:: :
:: : We cannot quit living... I have come to realize that quality of life
:: : counts for something, also... The key is moderation and testing for
:: : each individual to know what they can safely consume in the way of an
:: : occasional pizza. Some T2s can safely indulge in pizza to a greater
:: : extent than others. As Loretta often says, we are all different...
:: : Even T1s are different, from what I can tell... We all have our own
:: : individual responses to different dietary items.
:: :
:: : Will, T2
:
:: Exactly Will... that is a perfect posting to help reassure a new young T1
:: that her life isn't over with and has to stop eating the things that she
:: likes
:: especially around her friends that would make them look at her a bit odd.
:
:: It's hard enough being a teenager, lord knows they don't need anything
else
:: to throw a monkeywrench in to upturn it even more.
:
:: Thank you.
:
:: Reisa
:
: I was a teen with a weight problem adn there was no diet soda at that
: time. That is why I learned to drink black coffee(no calories) so I cul
: dhave something that wasn't childish with all the kids. I envier those
: having soda or milkshakes or etc., but, at least I wasn't regarded as
: either a baby or something weird.
:
: The weight wasn't obese, just chunky, but I was wanted to be a ballet
: dancer at the time and was studying intensely.
:
: Wendy
:
:

I understand what you are saying... but I'd also have to say that being
an overweight teen and wanting to lose a bit of weight and not wanting
to eat certain things is quite a bit different then being a new diabetic as
a teenager, and having that hanging over your head... I'm just seeing
things a bit differently.... Even as an adult diagnosed, after I told a few
of my friends, I know how things changed.

Reisa

On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:49:25 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Well, I was a teenager once who didn't eat pizza. My friends always tried
>to get me to eat it but I never liked the stuff. I only started eating
>it...or I should say trying to eat it when I married an Italian. I still
>don't like it.

My teen hates it too - but enjoys all the components : ) I make three
pizzas about once a month; a full-carb one for hubby and kid #2, a
low-carb one for me, and a base, a bowl of sauce, and a plate with
sliced toppings for kid #2...

Nicky.
T2 DX 05/2004
A1c 5.5% BMI 25 D&E
100ug Thyroxine

On Feb 19, 3:10 pm, Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:49:25 GMT, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Well, I was a teenager once who didn't eat pizza. My friends always tried
> >to get me to eat it but I never liked the stuff. I only started eating
> >it...or I should say trying to eat it when I married an Italian. I still
> >don't like it.
>
> My teen hates it too - but enjoys all the components : ) I make three
> pizzas about once a month; a full-carb one for hubby and kid #2, a
> low-carb one for me, and a base, a bowl of sauce, and a plate with
> sliced toppings for kid #2...
>
> Nicky.
> T2 DX 05/2004
> A1c 5.5% BMI 25 D&E
> 100ug Thyroxine

Before I was a diabetic type 1 I ate lunch at school every day. I
had pizza 2 days a week as an option instead of the plate lunch.
Almost nobody gets the plate lunches the other 3 days I had hamburgers
and French fries as an option. Now that I am taking a look at my diet,
it was as bad as could be. I never ate vegetables, for breakfast I had
toaster pastries or coffee cake and I like coffee with lots of cream
in it. If we had vegetables at supper I usually didn't eat them. My
mother has to watch her diet to keep from gaining weight but I could
always eat anything I wanted and always stayed slim.
I am getting the idea that it will be impotent to eat a balanced
diet because I am diabetic. It will be hard to break the habit of
eating almost all junk food. I really like Mexican food and we would
stop and get rolled tacos and eat them at Smoothie King with a large
smoothie.
Exercise is another thing I see mentioned a lot. I'm not lazy but I
never get much exercise. The little I get is in PE class and walking 3
blocks to school. This diabetes is changing everything in my life
maybe good to eat a better diet but bad that I can't do what my
friends do. About the only thing I have left is a Latte at Starbucks.
Amber

amber.jean.j@gmail.com wrote:

> Before I was a diabetic type 1 I ate lunch at school every day. I
> had pizza 2 days a week as an option instead of the plate lunch.
> Almost nobody gets the plate lunches the other 3 days I had hamburgers
> and French fries as an option. Now that I am taking a look at my diet,
> it was as bad as could be. I never ate vegetables, for breakfast I had
> toaster pastries or coffee cake and I like coffee with lots of cream
> in it. If we had vegetables at supper I usually didn't eat them. My
> mother has to watch her diet to keep from gaining weight but I could
> always eat anything I wanted and always stayed slim.
> I am getting the idea that it will be impotent to eat a balanced
> diet because I am diabetic. It will be hard to break the habit of
> eating almost all junk food. I really like Mexican food and we would
> stop and get rolled tacos and eat them at Smoothie King with a large
> smoothie.
> Exercise is another thing I see mentioned a lot. I'm not lazy but I
> never get much exercise. The little I get is in PE class and walking 3
> blocks to school. This diabetes is changing everything in my life
> maybe good to eat a better diet but bad that I can't do what my
> friends do. About the only thing I have left is a Latte at Starbucks.
> Amber


Amber...

Look at it this way, you're getting a head start at keeping your body
healthy. Your friends will get the message, but just a few years down
the road. You'll be ahead of the game!

And you can still DO all the things your friends do... you just can't
eat all the things your friends eat, at least not all the time ; )

From your posts, I think you've got a great chance of handling this all
fabulously. You'll be fine. I promise, it does get easier!

Jennifer

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:46:22 GMT, Jennifer
<jenniferNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote:

>amber.jean.j@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Before I was a diabetic type 1 I ate lunch at school every day. I
>> had pizza 2 days a week as an option instead of the plate lunch.
>> Almost nobody gets the plate lunches the other 3 days I had hamburgers
>> and French fries as an option. Now that I am taking a look at my diet,
>> it was as bad as could be. I never ate vegetables, for breakfast I had
>> toaster pastries or coffee cake and I like coffee with lots of cream
>> in it. If we had vegetables at supper I usually didn't eat them. My
>> mother has to watch her diet to keep from gaining weight but I could
>> always eat anything I wanted and always stayed slim.
>> I am getting the idea that it will be impotent to eat a balanced
>> diet because I am diabetic. It will be hard to break the habit of
>> eating almost all junk food. I really like Mexican food and we would
>> stop and get rolled tacos and eat them at Smoothie King with a large
>> smoothie.
>> Exercise is another thing I see mentioned a lot. I'm not lazy but I
>> never get much exercise. The little I get is in PE class and walking 3
>> blocks to school. This diabetes is changing everything in my life
>> maybe good to eat a better diet but bad that I can't do what my
>> friends do. About the only thing I have left is a Latte at Starbucks.
>> Amber
>
>
>Amber...
>
>Look at it this way, you're getting a head start at keeping your body
>healthy. Your friends will get the message, but just a few years down
>the road. You'll be ahead of the game!
>
>And you can still DO all the things your friends do... you just can't
>eat all the things your friends eat, at least not all the time ; )
>
> From your posts, I think you've got a great chance of handling this all
>fabulously. You'll be fine. I promise, it does get easier!
>
>Jennifer

A side comment to that. Quentin is probably aware that I was
ruefully watching the cricket last night as New Zealand beat
Australia - again. Yeah, I know - what's cricket got to do
with it, (the game, not that little bug:-)

Well, it's a sport that demands a very high level of fitness
and agility. The guy that almost single-handedly humbled
the Aussies, supposedly the best team in the world until
last night, was Craig McMillan.

He's a type one.

You may not understand cricket, but you might find th