For what it's worth...

A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug Administration
returned my call today.

I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that the
nutrition label needs to be investigated.

I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.

I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...

For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:

http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0

"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>Administration returned my call today.
>
> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>
> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>
> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>
> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>
> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0

You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page to
the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why would
anyone want to eat that crap?

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>>Administration returned my call today.
>>
>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>>
>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>>
>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>>
>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>>
>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
>
> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page to
> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why would
> anyone want to eat that crap?

I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell, I'd
be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should even
start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.

"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:sWRki.4527$CJ4.825@trndny08...
>>
>> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>>>Administration returned my call today.
>>>
>>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
>>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>>>
>>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>>>
>>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>>>
>>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
>>
>> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
>> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page to
>> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why
>> would anyone want to eat that crap?
>
> I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
> real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell,
> I'd be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
> sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
> inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should even
> start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.
>
I would think that, once they start messin with it - it leaves the realm of
"real ice cream" and becomes a low-carb product.... which is fine with me. I
couldn't care less.. as long as it tastes good and has fewer carbs so I can
eat a larger gob.

John

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:36:48 -0400, "Frisbee®"
<billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:sWRki.4527$CJ4.825@trndny08...
>>
>> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>>>Administration returned my call today.
>>>
>>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
>>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>>>
>>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>>>
>>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>>>
>>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
>>
>> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
>> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page to
>> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why would
>> anyone want to eat that crap?
>
>I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
>real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell, I'd
>be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
>sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
>inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should even
>start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.
>

Good luck; maybe you'll be a celebrity like the NZ girls who
challenged Ribena's Vitamin C claims.

At one stage back when I was testing a lot and checking
absolutely everything I spent a lot of time checking our
local ice-creams.

I tried low-fat, low-carb, "lite", "ice-confections", the
lot, over several months.

Regardless of the labels and claims of manufacturers I
discovered that the lowest BG spikes came from the
old-fashioned REAL ice creams. They were generally the ones
a little higher in fat, lower in additives, slightly lower
in carbs.

If the words "low" or "lo" or the suffix "ol" appeared on
the pack I could guarantee a spike or, nearly as bad, a
taste tragedy.

I also found that my portion size limit is the equivalent of
a single scoop; a medium scoop in the afternoon or a large
one in the evening.

Nutrition lists and the glycemic index are guides only; the
final test is your BG meter at your peak time after eating.







Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
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http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:36:48 -0400, Frisbee® wrote:

> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:sWRki.4527$CJ4.825@trndny08...
>>
>> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>>>Administration returned my call today.
>>>
>>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
>>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>>>
>>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>>>
>>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>>>
>>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
>>
>> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
>> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page to
>> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why would
>> anyone want to eat that crap?
>
> I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
> real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell, I'd
> be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
> sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
> inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should even
> start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.

Dreyer's 'carb smart' is about 7 carbs per 1/4 cup. Not a lot of taste,
but not bad.

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
newsan.2007.07.11.01.30.29.58124@zianet.com...
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:36:48 -0400, Frisbee® wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:sWRki.4527$CJ4.825@trndny08...
>>>
>>> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>>>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>>>>Administration returned my call today.
>>>>
>>>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
>>>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>>>>
>>>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
>>>
>>> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
>>> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page
>>> to
>>> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why
>>> would
>>> anyone want to eat that crap?
>>
>> I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
>> real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell,
>> I'd
>> be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
>> sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
>> inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should
>> even
>> start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.
>
> Dreyer's 'carb smart' is about 7 carbs per 1/4 cup. Not a lot of taste,
> but not bad.
>
That's the one I eat. See www.diabeticjunkfood.com

John

I eat edys grand double vanillia ice cream with strawberries and other fruit
like pinapple and never spike at all.
It had like 16 carbs and 6 protien and high fat for a half cup
serving...seems like it would spike but doesnt and ive eaten it at least 3
times a week for a while now...like others its the stuff with sugar alcohols
etc that spike me.
Anything with cream and not much junk does me fine.

KROM

"johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2007.07.11.01.30.29.58124@zianet.com...
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:36:48 -0400, Frisbee® wrote:
>>
>>> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:sWRki.4527$CJ4.825@trndny08...
>>>>
>>>> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
>>>>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
>>>>>Administration returned my call today.
>>>>>
>>>>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree
>>>>> that
>>>>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
>>>>
>>>> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
>>>> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page
>>>> to
>>>> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why
>>>> would
>>>> anyone want to eat that crap?
>>>
>>> I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
>>> real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell,
>>> I'd
>>> be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
>>> sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
>>> inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should
>>> even
>>> start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.
>>
>> Dreyer's 'carb smart' is about 7 carbs per 1/4 cup. Not a lot of taste,
>> but not bad.
>>
> That's the one I eat. See www.diabeticjunkfood.com
>
> John
>

ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:36:48 -0400, Frisbee?? wrote:

: > "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
: > news:sWRki.4527$CJ4.825@trndny08...
: >>
: >> "Frisbee??" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: >> news:46939f64$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
: >>>A representative of the Florida division of the Food and Drug
: >>>Administration returned my call today.
: >>>
: >>> I pointed them to the web site for D'Lites Emporium and they agree that
: >>> the nutrition label needs to be investigated.
: >>>
: >>> I actually hope I'm wrong. That would be too cool.
: >>>
: >>> I'll let you know what and if they come up with anything...
: >>>
: >>> For those of you who might not know what I'm talking about:
: >>>
: >>> http://www.dlitesemporium.com/Document6.pdf?wp_ml=0
: >>
: >> You hope you're wrong about...what? What I see listed makes no sense.
: >> Totally different ingredients and breakdowns from one side of the page to
: >> the other. Unless they are in fact two different products. But why would
: >> anyone want to eat that crap?
: >
: > I hope I'm wrong because what a wonderful world it would be if there was
: > real ice cream out there that had only two carbs per four ounces. Hell, I'd
: > be thrilled if it was eight carbs per four ounces. As to your last
: > sentence, um... it tastes pretty good. And yes, there are so many
: > inconsistencies in both nutrition lists one wonders where they should even
: > start, which is one of the reasons I reported it.

: Dreyer's 'carb smart' is about 7 carbs per 1/4 cup. Not a lot of taste,
: but not bad.

Edy's fancy churned, no sugar added is lowish fat and about 11 carbs net
fiber for 1/2 cup. Seems better to me. Edy's and Dreyer's are the sm
company, different coasts.

Wendy

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:19 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
<wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

>Edy's fancy churned, no sugar added is lowish fat and about 11 carbs net
>fiber for 1/2 cup. Seems better to me. Edy's and Dreyer's are the sm
>company, different coasts.
>
>Wendy

We buy Edy's and Bryer's, Wendy... both have n0-sugar added (ie.
splenda recipes) and both make delicious ice cream!

Will, T2

In the East Coast, it is Breyers Carbsmart, not Dreyers
I wonder why they did that.

Loretta

To give us something to talk about?

Had a rough, emotional day with the kids (17, 21, 39, 44 (with a couple more
thrown in the pot for good measure.... lol ) today, and am feeling silly
tonight. Gotta unwind. Hellooooooooo, John!!!!!!

Oh, thank goodness for you all! LOL I let loose on the two younger ones,
leaving nothing unsaid; Jim did, too, when he took her and him to the doctor
for some lab work; and he sent a looong email to all the adult ones.
Sometimes I ask myself "Where did I go wrong?" If mine were the only ones,
I might think it had been me, but it's not just mine. And they really *are*
very, very good kids......... hey, I'm talking about the 40s somethings!!
lol Wish they were all like the 17 y/o.

Didn't feel like going, but went for my appointment with the hairdresser for
cut and color touch-up today, and think it was a good thing to do.

Billie


: In the East Coast, it is Breyers Carbsmart, not Dreyers
: I wonder why they did that.
:
: Loretta
:

Aren't they two different companies? We have Breyers and Dreyers here.
I prefer Breyers for any kind of ice cream. :-)

Cheri

>: In the East Coast, it is Breyers Carbsmart, not Dreyers
>: I wonder why they did that.
>:
>: Loretta

Will, T2 <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote:
: On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:19 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
: <wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

: >Edy's fancy churned, no sugar added is lowish fat and about 11 carbs net
: >fiber for 1/2 cup. Seems better to me. Edy's and Dreyer's are the sm
: >company, different coasts.
: >
: >Wendy

: We buy Edy's and Bryer's, Wendy... both have n0-sugar added (ie.
: splenda recipes) and both make delicious ice cream!

: Will, T2

Breyer's is NOT Dreyers. The Dreyer's is the name of Edy's on the West
Coast. I guess two companies joined some years ago like Best Foods and
Hellmans mayo. Same product, different costs. Breyers is something
entirely different! And I don't likei tas much as the double churned lno
sugar added Edy's. It's a textural question.

enough of this treatise inIce Cream! My bgs are too igh fo rme to have a
dish tnight so I am going to bed!

Wendy