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Old 04-12-2008, 07:31 PM
Trinkwasser
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:50:12 +1000, "hemyd"
<myd!!!hen@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>I know a person (not in this newsgroup) who, in a masterstroke of setup,
>configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a
>brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet...


I've met more than one person who killfiled themselves . . .
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:31 PM
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:38:38 +1200, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>I've had a few things go wrong with my computer and didn't want to add
>to them. Secondly I figured the latest version of Agent should be
>able to do most of the filtering I required. It had to be a matter of
>my not fully exploiting its potential. The cross posting issue hasn't
>bothered me much recently for some reason. Whatever. Up until now I
>had been filtering by author etc This of course doesn't work with the
>crowd who change addressed for each spam of Nike, cheap wholesale
>fake Rolex. (Some people won't be reading this post if they filter
>the entire post for such key words) I discovered that I could filter
>for those key words without Subject or Author. Most of my problems
>disappeared.


Check out alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent

also

http://forteinc.com/agent/faq.php

Filtering can be made much more complicated than my poor brain can
handle, or as simple as right click - filter - edit the subject
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Alice Faber
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In article <dru104d552qls4qjv5brjccq82ujund779@4ax.com>,
Trinkwasser <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:50:12 +1000, "hemyd"
> <myd!!!hen@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >I know a person (not in this newsgroup) who, in a masterstroke of setup,
> >configered the kf in her news program to include all posters. There was a
> >brief period of surprise why the newsgroup went strangely quiet...

>
> I've met more than one person who killfiled themselves . . .


I placed a trouble-ticket with my ISP for a broken newsfeed when I had,
totally inadvertently, killed *all* subject lines. They forgave me.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:34 AM
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:12:31 -0700 (PDT), "Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> >> > On Apr 3, 1:54 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote:

>>
>> >> > > The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not
>> >> > > long ago
>> >> > > is superb in how clear & well written it is. I poached it to offer
>> >> > > elsewhere. And, I think he poached it from the person who wrote the
>> >> > > script.

>>
>> >> > Could you post the information again, please?

>>
>> >> I hope you saw that I reposted them in a thread of their own last night
>> >> right after you posted, asking. HTH. And, basically, it is an excellent
>> >> version to pass along! Thanks to Mack for making it available here.

>>
>> > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so
>> > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try.

>>
>> > Thanks again!
>> > Michelle C., T2
>> > diet & exercise

>>
>> You're welcome.

>
>I got it! It's working! :-)


Still working for ya?!

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DonnaB shallotpeel USA new Windows VISTA user
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 6.3

"Behind every successful woman ... is a substantial amount of coffee." -
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:31 AM
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"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uik204lcbiu7ks3v4o0fc8fma1rg33sgqq@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:12:31 -0700 (PDT), "Michelle C."
> <bookbug2005@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> >> > On Apr 3, 1:54 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted
>>> >> > > not
>>> >> > > long ago
>>> >> > > is superb in how clear & well written it is. I poached it to
>>> >> > > offer
>>> >> > > elsewhere. And, I think he poached it from the person who wrote
>>> >> > > the
>>> >> > > script.
>>>
>>> >> > Could you post the information again, please?
>>>
>>> >> I hope you saw that I reposted them in a thread of their own last
>>> >> night
>>> >> right after you posted, asking. HTH. And, basically, it is an
>>> >> excellent
>>> >> version to pass along! Thanks to Mack for making it available here.
>>>
>>> > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so
>>> > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try.
>>>
>>> > Thanks again!
>>> > Michelle C., T2
>>> > diet & exercise
>>>
>>> You're welcome.

>>
>>I got it! It's working! :-)

>
> Still working for ya?!
>
> --
> DonnaB shallotpeel USA new Windows VISTA user


I've found that is possible to discourage spammers posting through
Google Groups from posting to your favorite newsgroups, but
more difficult than doing the same to spammers posting through
sites harder on spammers. groups-abuse@google.com apparantly
doesn't do much for many reports of spam, even if you include
all headers as well as the whole spam message, and even when
they do something, it seldom prevents the spammers from
creating a new Google Groups account and sending spam again.
However, if you constantly send such spam reports for over a
month, they'll do enough that the spammers decide to exclude
those newsgroups from the ones they post spam to. I've been
sending such messages for over a month, and many of the
spammers now seem to have quit posting spam to asd. There
seem to be a few that need more effort, though, so I'll keep on
doing it.


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Old 04-13-2008, 03:01 AM
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On Apr 12, 5:23 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:12:31 -0700 (PDT), "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> >> > On Apr 3, 1:54 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> >> >> > > The instructions on how to KF in Google Groups that Mack posted not
> >> >> > > long ago
> >> >> > > is superb in how clear & well written it is. I poached it to offer
> >> >> > > elsewhere. And, I think he poached it from the person who wrote the
> >> >> > > script.

>
> >> >> > Could you post the information again, please?

>
> >> >> I hope you saw that I reposted them in a thread of their own last night
> >> >> right after you posted, asking. HTH. And, basically, it is an excellent
> >> >> version to pass along! Thanks to Mack for making it available here.

>
> >> > Thank you all--Robert, Donna, and Mack. I already have Firefox, so
> >> > I'm halfway there. Will give this a try.

>
> >> > Thanks again!
> >> > Michelle C., T2
> >> > diet & exercise

>
> >> You're welcome.

>
> >I got it! It's working! :-)

>
> Still working for ya?!
>
> --
> DonnaB shallotpeel USA new Windows VISTA user
> 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
> Current ................... HbA1c 6.3
>
> "Behind every successful woman ... is a substantial amount of coffee." -
> Stephanie Piro


Yep! Thanks! :-)

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:47 AM
Oleg Lego
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:38:38 +1200, Quentin Grady posted:

>
>G'day G'day Larry,
>
> You went to a lot of effort to provide me with an excellent
>solution to my problems by recommending nfilter. Like anyone who
>puts in the effort you are likely to be wondering if I've taken your
>advice and how it is going.


Thanks for responding. It is nice to know that my efforts didn't just
go into the bit bucket.

>Well went to the nfilter site and looked to see if it was compatible
>with Windows XP. Windows XP wasn't listed and that made me wary.
>Especially now the originator of the software no longer supports it.


I run XP, and have also used nfilter on Windows 2000. The support is
not a really big deal, for a few reasons. First is that it does a
creditable job of filtering, and has not proven to be buggy in any way
I've noticed. The second is that the source code is available, and
there are folks working with it. This means that there are a few
improved versions out there, though you do have to be somewhat careful
to choose your download sites carefully if you want to upgrade.

In fact, I have made a slight modification of the source code I got
from nfilter.org, to do something I find quite useful. When you run
nfilter, you can bring up a window to view the "dropped articles"
information. Unfortunately, it only tells you that it dropped one,
which one it was by reference number, and which rule caused it to be
dropped.

The problem with stating which rule it used is that it is reported as
a rule number, which becomes very hard to find in the nfilter.dat
file, because of the comment lines. My modification saves a file
called "RuleSet.txt" that contains all rules, in order, each one
beginning with "Filter n".

I may get around to changing the output of the "dropped articles" view
to better identify the article too, but it's low priority.

>I've had a few things go wrong with my computer and didn't want to add
>to them. Secondly I figured the latest version of Agent should be
>able to do most of the filtering I required. It had to be a matter of
>my not fully exploiting its potential. The cross posting issue hasn't
>bothered me much recently for some reason. Whatever. Up until now I
>had been filtering by author etc This of course doesn't work with the
>crowd who change addressed for each spam of Nike, cheap wholesale
>fake Rolex. (Some people won't be reading this post if they filter
>the entire post for such key words) I discovered that I could filter
>for those key words without Subject or Author. Most of my problems
>disappeared.


To give you an example (forgive me if this was already obvious to you
from y previous raving), I have the following filter in nfilter.dat.

* flag:[SPAM-cheap] subject:*[Cc][Hh][Ee][Aa][Pp].*

This one flags ant posting with the word "cheap" in the subject line,
regardless of whether or not any of the word is in upper or lower
case. It will flag any post with "cheap", Cheap", or "cHeAP"

Note that it does not drop the article. I just had a look through my
headers, and see that it flagged one, which read:

"Hot ! ! ! china discount cheap mauri sneakers nike james air force
ones mid cut AF1 shoes etc"

and it now shows up as:

"[SPAM-cheap] Hot ! ! ! china discount cheap mauri sneakers nike james
air force ones mid cut AF1 shoes etc"

So, if I see [SPAM-cheap], all I have to do is take a look at the
subject line and not bother reading it. Since I am not any more
interested in the reaction of other posters to the spam, I won't be
interested in anything with that subject. But since you might not want
to take the chance that someone didn't reply with information about
his peripheral neuropathy worsening while wearing discount shoes, you
always have the option of looking inside the post.

The flip side of this sort of filter is that you don't drop articles
with a subject like "Quentin's book would be cheap at twice the price"

>However your post has drawn my attention to the benefits I could be
>enjoying when I get a technowhiz to safely talk me through setting up
>nfilter.


Be glad to walk you (and anyone else) through it, and to supply you
with some working filters.

>So the quick summary is that it hasn't happened yet but it definitely
>could.


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Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:51 AM
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:24:40 +0100, Trinkwasser
<spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:

>Check out alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
>
>also
>
>http://forteinc.com/agent/faq.php
>
>Filtering can be made much more complicated than my poor brain can
>handle, or as simple as right click - filter - edit the subject


Thanks. In retrospect it seems I was making things more complicated
than I needed to meet my needs.

Best wishes,
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New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:26:20 -0600, Oleg Lego <rat@atatatat.com>
wrote:

>Be glad to walk you (and anyone else) through it, and to supply you
>with some working filters.


G'day G'day Larry,

Thank you Larry,

This week my highest priority is getting some exam editing
completed. For that reason I'll be somewhat withdrawn as far as ASD
is concerned. I'd appreciate my friends keeping in touch though.
If any newcomers should appear with a question that appears highly
relevant to my field of knowledge send me an email to let me know.

It is the time taken up with searching that I really can't afford at
the moment

Best wishes,
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New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:08 PM
DonnaB shallotpeel
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:58:59 -0700 (PDT), "Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 5, 12:53 pm, John Williamson <johnwilliam...@btinternet.com>
>wrote:
>> DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
>>
>> > Well, there are still a few free Usenet access providers. But, the real
>> > bargain is the (text groups only but all text groups) German server that
>> > many of us have used for years. ...

>>
>> It's billed in Euros at the interbank rate on the day you pay. 10 Euros
>> plus any commission your bank charges, so about USD 16 or 17 a year at
>> the moment. Apparently, the Click'n'Buy option for payment is currently
>> broken, but I believe they can accept payment by Paypal.
>>
>> Excellent service, very good backup. I recently changed from the
>> Tornevall.net free server to Individual. ...

>
>Thanks everyone! I am copying the links to your suggestions and will
>check it out. :-)


Great! Let us know how it works for you, if you try it. I notice that several
more free servers have been mentioned, too!

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Current ................... HbA1c 6.3

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