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  1. #1
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default WIBNI

    (Wouldn't It Be Nice If ....)

    We had a thread of resources ?
    These URLs keep coming up all the time, if we maintained a
    unique list tat lurkers and shy newbies could consult we should
    certainly be rendering service ??

    I found this one as my starter:

    http://thehealthcare.blogspot.com/20...besity_03.html

    What do the "Diabetes Jedi" think ?

    Frank




  2. #2
    Alan S Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:13:11 +0200, " Frank t2" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >(Wouldn't It Be Nice If ....)
    >
    >We had a thread of resources ?
    >These URLs keep coming up all the time, if we maintained a
    >unique list tat lurkers and shy newbies could consult we should
    >certainly be rendering service ??
    >
    >I found this one as my starter:
    >
    >http://thehealthcare.blogspot.com/20...besity_03.html
    >
    >What do the "Diabetes Jedi" think ?
    >
    >Frank
    >
    >


    I'm definitely not a Jedi, but I'll comment.

    There are literally thousands of sites like that one out
    there - including quite a few which feed off this group.

    Do a simple test. Go to that site, click on the Diabetes
    link on the right and see what happens. Form you own
    opinion, but I consider it a load of crap designed solely to
    drum up readers to click on their advertising.

    Returning to those who feed off this group. Do another test.
    Use something from your own nick and do a google search on
    it. Here is an example:

    Google on "Frank T2" gives 656 hits.
    http://tinyurl.com/297uxa Some are this group via google
    groups - but the majority aren't. Never realised you were so
    popular, or so widely read, did you? :-)

    It appears that there are others out there that think this
    group is worth repeating - to attract advertising. But, in
    chatting about this in past times to the regulars, all our
    cheques seem to be lost in the mail:-)

    Be very selective in choosing your resources. However, in
    the spirit of your post I'll offer a few resources myself.
    Not exhaustive - just to start you off:

    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...and-links.html
    Books and Links
    Get ready for information overload.

    Books

    The two books below are worth reading. I benefited most from
    Gretchen Becker's book, but Bernstein also has a wealth of
    good ideas. It's a smorgasbord - I take what works for me,
    and leave what doesn't suit me.

    Available from your library, good bookstore or Amazon. No -
    I don't get a commission.

    The First Year, Type 2 Diabetes, An Essential Guide for the
    Newly Diagnosed. Author: Gretchen Becker. ISBN 1-56924-646-0

    Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution, Revised and Updated", by
    Richard K, Bernstein, M.D.,ISBN 0-316-09906-6.

    Magazines

    All the magazines I've read on diabetes were only suitable
    for one thing - and they were too glossy to even be much use
    for that. The same applies to all "Diabetes Recipes" books
    and magazines.


    Links

    I've listed some links below, but by far the most important
    one is
    http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

    This is not an exhaustive list, but some, like Mendosa, have
    links to many others. Those which require registration have
    never sent me a spam or promotion.

    A.S.D. home page
    http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/

    Testing and dietary control (all are Jennifer's advice):
    http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
    http://jennifer.flyingrat.net/
    http://www.diabetic-talk.org/jennifer.htm

    General Diabetes Information:

    The misc.health.diabetes FAQs
    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/diabetes/

    David Mendosa
    http://www.mendosa.com

    Joslin
    http://joslin.org

    The AACE
    http://www.aace.com/index.php

    The ADA
    http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp

    Diabetes Australia
    http://www.diabetesaustralia.com.au/home/index.htm

    Diabetes UK
    http://www.diabetes.org.uk/home.htm

    National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney
    Diseases (NIDDK)
    http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/

    UK Prospective Diabetes Study (Type 2)
    http://www.dtu.ox.ac.uk/index.html?maindoc=/ukpds/

    Diabetes Control and Complications Trial (DCCT) (Type 1)
    http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/control/

    Medical Research Search Engines (registration required):

    Highwire (A brilliant Stanford U site)
    http://highwire.stanford.edu/

    Medscape
    http://www.medscape.com/medscapetoday

    Google Scholar
    http://scholar.google.com/advanced_scholar_search

    Discussion Groups

    Yahoo
    Diabetes World
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetesworld/
    Australian Diabetics
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...liandiabetics/
    Diabetic
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetic/

    The ADA Forum
    http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/...ebtag=adatype2

    Diabetic Talk Chat Room:
    http://www.diabetic-talk.org/

    And finally, a great Australian support site which accepts
    international members for young adults with diabetes (mainly
    Type 1):
    http://realitycheck.org.au/

    I attempt to keep them current - please let me know if any
    links have changed.


    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
    --
    http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
    latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
    latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

  3. #3
    Måck©® Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:13:11 +0200, " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >(Wouldn't It Be Nice If ....)
    >
    >We had a thread of resources ?
    >These URLs keep coming up all the time, if we maintained a
    >unique list tat lurkers and shy newbies could consult we should
    >certainly be rendering service ??
    >
    >I found this one as my starter:
    >
    >What do the "Diabetes Jedi" think ?
    >
    >Frank
    >
    >



    it's best to stay away from blogspot spamvertising scams.


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  4. #4
    Loretta Eisenberg Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Frank, I cant help you, I dont think :-)

    Loretta


  5. #5
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Ohhh, don't day that, babe ....

    <g>

    "Loretta Eisenberg" <[email protected]> a écrit ...
    > Frank, I cant help you, I dont think :-)
    >
    > Loretta
    >




  6. #6
    Loretta Eisenberg Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Frank, I am sure there was no disrespect intended, but at this stage of
    my life, I am no body's babe nor do I want to be. lol
    she says sarcastically


    Loretta


  7. #7
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...

    A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...

    Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..

    A true compliment ...


    "Loretta Eisenberg" <[email protected]> a écrit ...
    > Frank, I am sure there was no disrespect intended, but at this stage of
    > my life, I am no body's babe nor do I want to be. lol
    > she says sarcastically
    >
    >
    > Loretta




  8. #8
    Alice Faber Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In article <46967d09$0$28783$[email protected]>,
    " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...
    >
    > A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    > someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...
    >
    > Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..
    >
    > A true compliment ...


    You may intend it as a compliment. But the women you describe that way
    aren't obligated to take it as a compliment, as, in our experience, it's
    a belittling term.

    --
    "and the snark alert level has reached "fuschia""
    ---zig zigalo homes in on the meat of the matter

  9. #9
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    ?

    "Alice Faber" <[email protected]> a écrit ...
    > " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...
    >>
    >> A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    >> someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...
    >>
    >> Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..
    >>
    >> A true compliment ...

    >
    > You may intend it as a compliment. But the women you describe that way
    > aren't obligated to take it as a compliment, as, in our experience, it's
    > a belittling term.
    >
    > --
    > "and the snark alert level has reached "fuschia""
    > ---zig zigalo homes in on the meat of the matter




  10. #10
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    True Alice. If a man wants to call a woman babe, it should be his SO.
    Most women I know hate it.

    Cheri

    Alice Faber wrote in message ...
    >In article <46967d09$0$28783$[email protected]>,
    > " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...
    >>
    >> A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    >> someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...
    >>
    >> Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..
    >>
    >> A true compliment ...

    >
    >You may intend it as a compliment. But the women you describe that

    way
    >aren't obligated to take it as a compliment, as, in our experience,

    it's
    >a belittling term.
    >
    >--
    >"and the snark alert level has reached "fuschia""
    > ---zig zigalo homes in on the meat of the matter




  11. #11
    Loretta Eisenberg Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    I never thought for a minute it wasnt a compliment Frank, but the woman
    of today in cosmopolitan areas find it demeaning.

    hope you are having delicious french ice cream

    Loretta


  12. #12
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Do you know any non-American women ?

    It's not belittling in English and I never use it in such a manner.


    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> a écrit ...
    > True Alice. If a man wants to call a woman babe, it should be his SO.
    > Most women I know hate it.
    >
    > Cheri
    >
    > Alice Faber wrote in message ...
    >> " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...
    >>>
    >>> A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    >>> someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...
    >>>
    >>> Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..
    >>>
    >>> A true compliment ...

    >>
    >>You may intend it as a compliment. But the women you describe that

    > way
    >>aren't obligated to take it as a compliment, as, in our experience,

    > it's
    >>a belittling term.




  13. #13
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    I don't know what you mean when you say it's not belittling in
    English, but no, I don't know any non-American women. I know many
    American women of different nationalities though.

    Cheri


    Frank t2 wrote in message
    <469697d6$0$23262$[email protected]>...
    >Do you know any non-American women ?
    >
    >It's not belittling in English and I never use it in such a manner.
    >
    >
    >"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> a écrit ...
    >> True Alice. If a man wants to call a woman babe, it should be his

    SO.
    >> Most women I know hate it.
    >>
    >> Cheri
    >>
    >> Alice Faber wrote in message ...
    >>> " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...
    >>>>
    >>>> A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    >>>> someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...
    >>>>
    >>>> Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..
    >>>>
    >>>> A true compliment ...
    >>>
    >>>You may intend it as a compliment. But the women you describe that

    >> way
    >>>aren't obligated to take it as a compliment, as, in our experience,

    >> it's
    >>>a belittling term.

    >
    >




  14. #14
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Ahhh, well there you are then ...


    "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> a écrit ...
    >I don't know what you mean when you say it's not belittling in
    > English, but no, I don't know any non-American women. I know many
    > American women of different nationalities though.
    >
    > Cheri
    >
    >
    > Frank t2 wrote ...
    >>Do you know any non-American women ?
    >>
    >>It's not belittling in English and I never use it in such a manner.
    >>
    >>
    >>"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> a écrit ...
    >>> True Alice. If a man wants to call a woman babe, it should be his

    > SO.
    >>> Most women I know hate it.
    >>>
    >>> Cheri
    >>>
    >>> Alice Faber wrote in message ...
    >>>> " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> The term "babe" in my mind, is one of compliment ...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> A babe is a woman who is pleasant to be around,
    >>>>> someone to whom a guy can talk easily ...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Also a woman who is atractive in some way ..
    >>>>>
    >>>>> A true compliment ...
    >>>>
    >>>>You may intend it as a compliment. But the women you describe that
    >>> way
    >>>>aren't obligated to take it as a compliment, as, in our experience,
    >>> it's
    >>>>a belittling term.

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  15. #15
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Glad we got that straightened out...babe. :-)

    Cheri


    Frank t2 wrote in message
    <46969acf$0$28791$[email protected]>...
    >Ahhh, well there you are then ...
    >
    >
    >"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> a écrit ...
    >>I don't know what you mean when you say it's not belittling in
    >> English, but no, I don't know any non-American women. I know many
    >> American women of different nationalities though.
    >>
    >> Cheri





  16. #16
    DonnaB shallotpeel Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:06:22 +0200 in Msg.#
    <469697d6$0$23262$[email protected]>, " Frank t2" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Do you know any non-American women ?
    >
    > It's not belittling in English and I never use it in such a manner.


    I do. I know non-American women & they have the same take at this point in
    time on calling women 'babes'.

    --
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    CORRINO. Just began EATING IN THE LIGHT OF THE MOON.

    "Would it not be a comfort, just for a time, to believe that we create our
    own Heavens and our own Hells?" - Lancelot, THE MISTS OF AVALON,
    mini-series, 2001

  17. #17
    Nicky Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:06:22 +0200, " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Do you know any non-American women ?
    >
    >It's not belittling in English and I never use it in such a manner.


    I find it so too.

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

  18. #18
    Will, T2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:49:46 -0400, [email protected] (Loretta
    Eisenberg) wrote:

    >I never thought for a minute it wasnt a compliment Frank, but the woman
    >of today in cosmopolitan areas find it demeaning.
    >
    >hope you are having delicious french ice cream
    >
    >Loretta



    All this "babe" talk reminds me of that Sonny and Cher song, "I've Got
    you, Babe". In that context, I think it was a token of fondness and
    affection.... Neveretheless, it has never occurred to me to call
    anyone "babe" for a very, very long time.

    Will, T2

  19. #19
    Will, T2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:00:16 -0400, "Will, T2" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >All this "babe" talk reminds me of that Sonny and Cher song, "I've Got
    >you, Babe". In that context, I think it was a token of fondness and
    >affection.... Neveretheless, it has never occurred to me to call
    >anyone "babe" for a very, very long time.
    >
    >Will, T2



    Then, there was "Babe", the blue ox ....

    Will, T2

  20. #20
    Frank t2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    It's used all the time in a US comic strip without all the hue & cry.
    Calvin & Hobbes

    For me, it's just another manifestation of sensitivity ...

    Y'all KNOW I don't use it to denigrate.


    "Nicky" <[email protected]> a écrit ...
    > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:06:22 +0200, " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Do you know any non-American women ?
    >>
    >>It's not belittling in English and I never use it in such a manner.

    >
    > I find it so too.
    >
    > Nicky.
    > T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    > D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    > Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25




  21. #21
    Alice Faber Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In article <4697882d$0$24404$[email protected]>,
    " Frank t2" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It's used all the time in a US comic strip without all the hue & cry.
    > Calvin & Hobbes
    >
    > For me, it's just another manifestation of sensitivity ...
    >
    > Y'all KNOW I don't use it to denigrate.


    I know that's what you claim. However, a number of women, of varying
    ages and nationalities, have attempted to educate you about the
    impression you're giving by using that term the way you use it. It seems
    that, while you don't intend to give offense, it doesn't much bother you
    if you do.

    --
    "and the snark alert level has reached "fuschia""
    ---zig zigalo homes in on the meat of the matter

  22. #22
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    As you say, Sonny and Cher were a couple, nothing wrong with it at all
    in that context, but it can be off putting when a stranger calls a
    woman babe. I will give you an example. I had a "bad" electrician here
    to do some work. He was trying to do all sorts of things with simple
    plug additions that weren't up to code, so I hired someone else to
    finish what he started after I had paid him for what he had done. He
    called back in a few days to see if he should come back, I said no,
    your job wasn't satisfactory in the first place. He then said..." have
    it your way babe, and I hope we can still be buds babe." Now, that
    pissed me off big time, and I don't think that was a term of fondness.
    LOL

    Cheri


    Will, T2 wrote in message ...

    >All this "babe" talk reminds me of that Sonny and Cher song, "I've

    Got
    >you, Babe". In that context, I think it was a token of fondness and
    >affection.... Neveretheless, it has never occurred to me to call
    >anyone "babe" for a very, very long time.
    >
    >Will, T2




  23. #23
    Grandpa Chuck Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    What the heck does "WIBNI" stand for?
    --

    Grandpa Chuck
    -ô¿ô-
    ~


    Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 11, 2007 is 3,611.
    United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.

    How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
    Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

    As of July 13, 2007 it has been 1535 days since Bush
    while standing in front of the banner which was sent
    to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
    declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
    allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

    Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
    Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
    Lewis

  24. #24
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Wouldn't it be nice if.......

    Cheri


    Grandpa Chuck wrote in message
    <8dbf93h2ekebjenn[email protected]>...
    >What the heck does "WIBNI" stand for?
    >--
    >
    >Grandpa Chuck
    > -ô¿ô-
    > ~
    >
    >
    >Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 11, 2007 is

    3,611.
    >United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.
    >
    >How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
    >Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!
    >
    >As of July 13, 2007 it has been 1535 days since Bush
    >while standing in front of the banner which was sent
    >to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
    >declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
    >allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
    >
    >Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
    >Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.
    >
    >
    >"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and

    carrying a cross." --Sinclair
    >Lewis





  25. #25
    Grandpa Chuck Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Now doesn't that make sense.
    Thanks Cheri.
    I can always depend on you.

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:02:20 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
    wrote:

    >Wouldn't it be nice if.......
    >
    >Cheri
    >
    >
    >Grandpa Chuck wrote in message
    ><[email protected]>...
    >>What the heck does "WIBNI" stand for?

    --

    Grandpa Chuck
    -ô¿ô-
    ~


    Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 11, 2007 is 3,611.
    United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.

    How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
    Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

    As of July 13, 2007 it has been 1535 days since Bush
    while standing in front of the banner which was sent
    to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
    declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
    allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

    Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
    Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
    Lewis

  26. #26
    DonnaB shallotpeel Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:11:55 +0200 in Msg.#
    <4697882d$0$24404$[email protected]>, " Frank t2" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > It's used all the time in a US comic strip without all the hue & cry.
    > Calvin & Hobbes
    >
    > For me, it's just another manifestation of sensitivity ...
    >
    > Y'all KNOW I don't use it to denigrate.


    I don't know that. I know that you continue to support it, rather than
    simply to understand how your audience has told you it is taken & take a
    lesson from that. In terms of US current cultural beliefs, you are wrong. I
    would agree, however, that it is an issue of sensitivity. You were gently
    informed because you were given the benefit of the doubt. But, now, you want
    to be right? Huh? What's that about?

    --
    DonnaB
    06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
    ...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
    ...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2
    ...................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3

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    which way that coin falls." - Duke Paulus Atreides, DUNE: HOUSE CORRINO,
    Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson [2001]

  27. #27
    Loretta Eisenberg Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    Thanks for the definition Cheri, I didnt know what it meant, but I was
    too embarassed to ask what the meaning of something else was.

    Loretta


  28. #28
    DonnaB shallotpeel Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:49:15 -0700 in Msg.#
    <[email protected]>, "Cheri"
    <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

    > As you say, Sonny and Cher were a couple, nothing wrong with it at all
    > in that context, but it can be off putting when a stranger calls a
    > woman babe.


    And, they were a couple & put that song out many years ago & at a time when
    'babe' had a very different cultural connotation.

    Good example. Work acquaintances, acquaintances, as well as strangers, but
    anyone outside one's closest circle, calling you babe, honey, sweetie,
    peaches, etc. is a sure sign that someone doesn't know your name, and, after
    all, we're all the same in the dark, right?

    --
    DonnaB
    06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
    ...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
    ...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2
    ...................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3

    "Diplomats are chosen for their ability to lie." - Bene Gesserit Saying,
    DUNE: HOUSE CORRINO, Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson [2001]

  29. #29
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI


    DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ...

    >Good example. Work acquaintances, acquaintances, as well as

    strangers, but
    >anyone outside one's closest circle, calling you babe, honey,

    sweetie,
    >peaches, etc. is a sure sign that someone doesn't know your name,

    and, after
    >all, we're all the same in the dark, right?



    Arrrrrrrrrgh, oh yeah, it's like when someone says in a newsgroup
    discussion "don't get your panties in a bunch sweetheart," or "is it
    that time of the month hon?" All put downs IMO, and I see nothing like
    fondness or sensitivity in any of them.

    Cheri



  30. #30
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    I only knew because Frank said that's what it was when he started the
    thread, otherwise I wouldn't have known either. :-)

    Cheri


    Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message
    <[email protected]>...
    Thanks for the definition Cheri, I didnt know what it meant, but I
    was
    too embarassed to ask what the meaning of something else was.

    Loretta



  31. #31
    DonnaB shallotpeel Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:03:08 -0700 in Msg.#
    <[email protected]>, "Cheri"
    <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

    > DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ...
    >
    > >Good example. Work acquaintances, acquaintances, as well as

    > strangers, but
    > >anyone outside one's closest circle, calling you babe, honey,

    > sweetie,
    > >peaches, etc. is a sure sign that someone doesn't know your name,

    > and, after
    > >all, we're all the same in the dark, right?

    >
    > Arrrrrrrrrgh, oh yeah, it's like when someone says in a newsgroup
    > discussion "don't get your panties in a bunch sweetheart," or "is it
    > that time of the month hon?" All put downs IMO, and I see nothing like
    > fondness or sensitivity in any of them.


    Cheri, ya know when you & I don't agree, we disagree civilly, but when we
    agree, we agree vociferously!

    --
    DonnaB
    06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
    ...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
    ...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2
    ...................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3

    "In a technological culture, progress may be viewed as the attempt to move
    more quickly into the future, rushing to make known the unknown." - Mother
    Superior Harishka, DUNE: HOUSE CORRINO, Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson
    [2001]

  32. #32
    DonnaB shallotpeel Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:13:55 -0700 in Msg.#
    <[email protected]>, "Cheri"
    <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

    > I only knew because Frank said that's what it was when he started the
    > thread, otherwise I wouldn't have known either. :-)


    I didn't recall what it was by now, though. LOL

    > Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message
    > <[email protected]>...
    > Thanks for the definition Cheri, I didnt know what it meant, but I
    > was too embarassed to ask what the meaning of something else was.


    Hey, don't be embarrassed to ask a question!! Sheesh, I have asked more
    questions here than I've answered BY FAR. <G>

    --
    DonnaB
    06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
    ...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
    ...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2
    ...................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3

    "It is astonishing how foolish human beings can be in groups, especially
    when they follow their leaders without question." - States: The Bene
    Gesserit View, All States Are an Abstraction, DUNE: HOUSE CORRINO, Brian
    Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson [2001]

  33. #33
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI


    DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message

    >Cheri, ya know when you & I don't agree, we disagree civilly, but

    when we
    >agree, we agree vociferously!



    True Donna, very true.

    Cheri





  34. #34
    Will, T2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:13:07 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:49:15 -0700 in Msg.#
    ><[email protected]>, "Cheri"
    ><gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
    >
    >> As you say, Sonny and Cher were a couple, nothing wrong with it at all
    >> in that context, but it can be off putting when a stranger calls a
    >> woman babe.

    >
    >And, they were a couple & put that song out many years ago & at a time when
    >'babe' had a very different cultural connotation.
    >
    >Good example. Work acquaintances, acquaintances, as well as strangers, but
    >anyone outside one's closest circle, calling you babe, honey, sweetie,
    >peaches, etc. is a sure sign that someone doesn't know your name, and, after
    >all, we're all the same in the dark, right?


  35. #35
    Will, T2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:13:07 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    >
    >Good example. Work acquaintances, acquaintances, as well as strangers, but
    >anyone outside one's closest circle, calling you babe, honey, sweetie,
    >peaches, etc. is a sure sign that someone doesn't know your name, and, after
    >all, we're all the same in the dark, right?


    Sorry folks, the last one got away from me, before I had a chance to
    write any text ;-)

    I was gonna say, this afternoon, I was on my way to a deposition and
    waiting impatiently for the elevator to reach the ground floor. The
    elevator door opened, and as I was bustling out, I bumped into a
    rather attractive young woman who was entering the elevator....

    Says I, "Oh, I am so sorry, I didn't see you."

    Sez she, "That's OK, honey... How's it going today?" And, she gave me
    a big, cordial smile....

    Hmmm, says I to Willself, "Too bad I am nearly 59, and in a hurry."
    ;-)

    At this moment, I have absolutely no idea who she was, as I have
    never, ever seen her before...

    Will, T2

  36. #36
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI


    Will, T2 wrote in message ...speaking of a woman coming from an
    elevator

    >Sez she, "That's OK, honey... How's it going today?" And, she gave me
    >a big, cordial smile....
    >
    >Hmmm, says I to Willself, "Too bad I am nearly 59, and in a hurry."
    >;-)



    And married. :-) Seriously, I had to break myself of that habit as
    well. In my working outside of the home years I was around small
    children all day long, so I called them sweetie, sweetheart, honey,
    etc. I caught myself calling adults those names in supermarkets etc.,
    so I made a conscious effort to stop.

    Cheri




  37. #37
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI


    Will, T2 wrote in message ...speaking of a female stranger calling him
    honey today

    >Yes, Cheri, and married...
    >
    >Still, it is nice to be "apprecicated" as they say ;-)
    >
    >Will, T2


    Just a friendly reminder my friend. :-) I think men want to be
    "appreciated" more with words like honey, babe, etc. from strangers
    than women do though.

    Cheri



  38. #38
    Will, T2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:31:29 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
    wrote:

    >And married. :-) Seriously, I had to break myself of that habit as
    >well. In my working outside of the home years I was around small
    >children all day long, so I called them sweetie, sweetheart, honey,
    >etc. I caught myself calling adults those names in supermarkets etc.,
    >so I made a conscious effort to stop.


    Yes, Cheri, and married...

    Still, it is nice to be "apprecicated" as they say ;-)

    Will, T2

  39. #39
    Will, T2 Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:43:45 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
    wrote:

    >
    >Will, T2 wrote in message ...speaking of a female stranger calling him
    >honey today
    >
    >>Yes, Cheri, and married...
    >>
    >>Still, it is nice to be "apprecicated" as they say ;-)
    >>
    >>Will, T2

    >
    >Just a friendly reminder my friend. :-) I think men want to be
    >"appreciated" more with words like honey, babe, etc. from strangers
    >than women do though.
    >
    >Cheri
    >


    You are probably right, Cheri... I wouldn't know, as I am not a
    woman... But, I do have a certain sense of these things.

    Will, T2

  40. #40
    DonnaB shallotpeel Guest

    Default Re: WIBNI

    In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:47:43 -0400 in Msg.#
    <[email protected]>, "Will, T2" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:43:45 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Will, T2 wrote in message ...speaking of a female stranger calling him
    > >honey today
    > >
    > >>Yes, Cheri, and married...
    > >>
    > >>Still, it is nice to be "apprecicated" as they say ;-)

    > >
    > >Just a friendly reminder my friend. :-) I think men want to be
    > >"appreciated" more with words like honey, babe, etc. from strangers
    > >than women do though.

    >
    > You are probably right, Cheri... I wouldn't know, as I am not a
    > woman... But, I do have a certain sense of these things.


    Okay, then, explain, why it was an *appreciation* to you, why it made you feel
    you appreciated, rather than other words being used?

    --
    DonnaB just saw SICKO and HP:Order of the Phoenix. Just read DUNE:HOUSE
    CORRINO. Just began EATING IN THE LIGHT OF THE MOON.

    "You know those stories they tell about me? Erica Kane's alleged mean
    streak? Well, they have no idea. Because when I get my hands on Babe &
    that-that floozy she calls her Mama & that traitor David Hayward, I will
    show you vengeance." - Erica, AMC, 12-13-04

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