Are your Colesteral & Triglyceridesa off the Chart ...Mine are!

I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
Will getting my BG under control help this also?

Thanks to the group.

On 27-Feb-2007, OldBriar <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote:

> am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?

I would say probably so... If your levels are that much out of control,
though, you really ought to get your doctor closely involved in your
treatment.

Will, T2

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OldBriar wrote:
> I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

Triglycerides pretty directly reflect carbohydrate consumption, and they
drop precipitously once carbs are tightly restricted. Your total
cholesterol includes 1/5 of your triglycerides, so this alone would
lower your total cholesterol number, too.

Susan

OldBriar <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote:
: I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
: Will getting my BG under control help this also?

: Thanks to the group.

Generally, high trigycerides are related to high bgs and lack of control.
I don't think the other cholestertol numbers ae as directly related.

Wendy

"OldBriar" <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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:I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
: Will getting my BG under control help this also?
:
: Thanks to the group.

Triglycerides are directly linked to eating too many carbs..
having a high carb diet. My lipid profile is always pretty
good, other then my HDL when I stick to "my" normal diet.
When I stray from it and we all get lazy at my house and
we start eating out again a lot.. I can definately see the
results in my trigs being high. Back to my diet and within
2 months, my trigs are back down below 100 again.

So, with eating a better diet not only will it help get your
glucose in control, but it will also help control you trigs.

You should also add in exercise, at least 30mins a day and
a good brisk walk should be included for cardio... this also
helps your entire lipid profile, but helps your HDL the most
it also helps reduce your glucose quite a bit.

If after you've tried fixing your glucose control and trigs with
diet and exericse, theres nothing wrong with asking for meds
to help get it in control.. the meds are there to help you.. they
don't have to be taken for life most times...

Best of luck.



--
Reisa, T1
dx-5/00 asd-7/00
Animas IR1250 pumper
Currently taking a pump vacation
Daily CHO: 100-130gm
TDD: 36-38u
Last A1C: too damn high!

When I compare past to present blood work I found
when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped up.
now that I am more active again they dropped down 66 points.
so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active I am.

its really a personal thing on what path you should take.. jmo
some people who cant exercise or basically sit and chat all day must limit
other things to much smaller portions much more than those that can
exercise or even take a few daily walks.
for me increased exercise leads to a more enjoyable life.
--
Tom

www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com


"OldBriar" <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

rk wrote:
> "OldBriar" <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsn29u2ls4cim2r08a3cddpn25l3p7tckdo@4ax.com...
>:I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and
Cholesterol.
>: Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>:
>: Thanks to the group.
>
> Triglycerides are directly linked to eating too many
carbs..
> having a high carb diet. My lipid profile is always
pretty
> good, other then my HDL when I stick to "my" normal diet.
> When I stray from it and we all get lazy at my house and
> we start eating out again a lot.. I can definately see the
> results in my trigs being high. Back to my diet and
within
> 2 months, my trigs are back down below 100 again.
>
> So, with eating a better diet not only will it help get
your
> glucose in control, but it will also help control you
trigs.
>
> You should also add in exercise, at least 30mins a day and
> a good brisk walk should be included for cardio... this
also
> helps your entire lipid profile, but helps your HDL the
most
> it also helps reduce your glucose quite a bit.
>
> If after you've tried fixing your glucose control and
trigs with
> diet and exericse, theres nothing wrong with asking for
meds
> to help get it in control.. the meds are there to help
you.. they
> don't have to be taken for life most times...
>
> Best of luck.

I was about to launch on a similar spiel, I am glad I read
the entire thread first

While you may need drug intervention in the meantime, getting your BGs
under control will help--especially your triglyceride numbers. Except for
those people who have a gene that causes high triglycerides (and sometimes
cholesterol), in most people, high triglycerides are a symptom of too much
carbohydrate in the diet. This effect is especially notable in T2 diabetics
because our bodies do not handle carbs appropriately. When people are
ingesting too many carbs, our bodies store them as fat, which also increases
fat (triglycerides) in the blood.
--
Michelle, T2
diet & exercise


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>
> On 27-Feb-2007, OldBriar <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
>> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> I would say probably so... If your levels are that much out of control,
> though, you really ought to get your doctor closely involved in your
> treatment.
>
> Will, T2
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OldBriar wrote:
> I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high as 2000) and
cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds, my T2 diabetic
husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The doctor put him on "no
carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I kept them as low as
possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and HDL were all in the
normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.

I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and I know people
react differently, but this is one case where I witnessed amazing
results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It is always worth
discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work for you.

Gillian

In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:01:55 GMT in Msg.#
<nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>, Gill Murray <gillmurray1@nowhere.net> wrote:

> After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high as 2000) and
> cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds, my T2 diabetic
> husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The doctor put him on "no
> carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I kept them as low as
> possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and HDL were all in the
> normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>
> I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and I know people
> react differently, but this is one case where I witnessed amazing
> results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It is always worth
> discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work for you.

Does he still eat very very low carb?

--
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06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg.
...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2

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So there. :-p" - Bill H, in AltAgent, 8/01

OldBriar wrote:
> I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

I had the same problem. I went on a low carb diet for diabetes and
started lipitor and micardis. I am back to normal again. I also keep a
low fat diet.

OldBriar wrote:
> I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

You must have been overweight for a long time and over ate. That was the
cause. Loose the weight and the other things may resolve themselves.

Gantlet <Tom@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:

> When I compare past to present blood work I found
> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped up.
> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66 points.
> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active I am.

Were you eating the same diet? Because if so being more active would
have reduced your BGs which would have reduced your trigs. You could
only claim an exercise effect if you adjusted your diet to have the
same BGs when you were inactive & active. From some of your other
posts I get the impression you didn't, am I right?

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:54k03jF21emlfU2@mid.individual.net...
> Gantlet <Tom@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:
>
>> When I compare past to present blood work I found
>> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped up.
>> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66 points.
>> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active I am.
>
> Were you eating the same diet? Because if so being more active would
> have reduced your BGs which would have reduced your trigs. You could
> only claim an exercise effect if you adjusted your diet to have the
> same BGs when you were inactive & active. From some of your other
> posts I get the impression you didn't, am I right?


I guess that would mean non diabetics dont have to worry about
Triglycerides.

Anyone interested in this subject should do their OWN research.
but here are some links from people you can trust.
your American Diabetes Association

http://www.diabetes.org/uedocuments/...leaseFINAL.doc

For enough links to make even the Anal 1 jealous check out this page.

http://google.diabetes.org/search?q=...x=29&btnG.y=13

or just go to
www.diabetes.org and type Triglycerides Exercise in the search field in the
upper right hand coner of the window.

for links on exercise for beginners
http://www.diabetes.org/weightloss-a...e/overview.jsp

Good luck.

--
Tom

www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com

DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
> In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:01:55 GMT in Msg.#
> <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>, Gill Murray <gillmurray1@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
>>After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high as 2000) and
>>cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds, my T2 diabetic
>>husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The doctor put him on "no
>>carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I kept them as low as
>>possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and HDL were all in the
>>normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>>
>>I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and I know people
>>react differently, but this is one case where I witnessed amazing
>>results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It is always worth
>>discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work for you.
>
>
> Does he still eat very very low carb?
>

Yes, he does. I have started easing a smidgeon; today I made a low-carb
flatbread pepperoni pizza for his lunch( first pizza in years).. I think
it worked out at 13 gms. On the other hand, dinner had lean pork roast,
and fresh green beans, zucchini and brussels sprouts. I would hazard a
guess he might have 25-30gms a day on average. That includes the
pistachios I get him to graze on. I use those because he has to take the
shell off each one before he eats it!LOL. He is a tall aand physically
large man, and enjoys his food. A challenge, but we have stuck to it.

Gillian

Gillian

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:00:51 GMT, "Gantlet"
<Tom@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:54k03jF21emlfU2@mid.individual.net...
>> Gantlet <Tom@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When I compare past to present blood work I found
>>> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped up.
>>> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66 points.
>>> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active I am.
>>
>> Were you eating the same diet? Because if so being more active would
>> have reduced your BGs which would have reduced your trigs. You could
>> only claim an exercise effect if you adjusted your diet to have the
>> same BGs when you were inactive & active. From some of your other
>> posts I get the impression you didn't, am I right?
>
>
>I guess that would mean non diabetics dont have to worry about
>Triglycerides.
>
??? How did you conclude that from that comment?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus

"OldBriar" <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?

Yes.

"OldBriar" <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsn29u2ls4cim2r08a3cddpn25l3p7tckdo@4ax.com...
>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

Cardiovascular disease is a major complication of diabetes, and raised
Triglycerides and Cholesterol are major contributors to CVD. Although a
change of lifestyle such as diet and exercise will improve these, as it will
your bg control, medication may be also required. Discuss this with your
doctor. Read up on what the recommended Cholesterol and Trig figures are for
a diabetic. Don't accept "I wouldn't worry about that" statements. Treat the
issue aggressively.

Henry M.
Age 59, Type 2, Diagnosed 1995
Managing diabetes through diet, exercise,
Gliclazide (sulph), Metformin,
Lantus and, recently, Novolog.
(remove 'spam' to reply)

Gantlet wrote:
> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:54k03jF21emlfU2@mid.individual.net...
>> Gantlet <Tom@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When I compare past to present blood work I found
>>> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped
up.
>>> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66
points.
>>> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active
I am.
>>
>> Were you eating the same diet? Because if so being more
active would
>> have reduced your BGs which would have reduced your
trigs. You could
>> only claim an exercise effect if you adjusted your diet
to have the
>> same BGs when you were inactive & active. From some of
your other
>> posts I get the impression you didn't, am I right?
>
>
> I guess that would mean non diabetics dont have to worry
about
> Triglycerides
HMO> but here are some links from people you can
trust.
> your American Diabetes Association

How did you come to that conclusion? The main causes of
secondary hypertriglyceridemia are obesity, diabetes, eating
excess carbohydrates, alcohol, nephrotic syndrome. Lesser
causes are hypothyroidism, estrogen replacement, beta
blockers, glucorticoids.

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Ozgirl wrote:

> How did you come to that conclusion? The main causes of
> secondary hypertriglyceridemia are obesity, diabetes, eating
> excess carbohydrates, alcohol, nephrotic syndrome. Lesser
> causes are hypothyroidism, estrogen replacement, beta
> blockers, glucorticoids.
>

Elevated TGLs are considered the single most predictive serum lipid
marker of CVD and cardiac mortality in everyone, with LDL and total
cholesterol turning out to be the poorest predictors.

Susan

In article <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>,
Gill Murray <gillmurray1@nowhere.net> wrote:

> OldBriar wrote:
> > I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> > Will getting my BG under control help this also?
> >
> > Thanks to the group.
>
> After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high as 2000) and
> cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds, my T2 diabetic
> husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The doctor put him on "no
> carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I kept them as low as
> possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and HDL were all in the
> normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>
> I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and I know people
> react differently, but this is one case where I witnessed amazing
> results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It is always worth
> discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work for you.

I'm curious as to why his A1c would be *up* after a strenuous reduction
in carb intake.

Priscilla

In article <fmr9u21da1r9tsbo0ipomiif8ls8sia1i1@4ax.com>,
Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:00:51 GMT, "Gantlet"
> <Tom@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >news:54k03jF21emlfU2@mid.individual.net...
> >> Gantlet <Tom@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> When I compare past to present blood work I found
> >>> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped up.
> >>> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66 points.
> >>> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active I am.
> >>
> >> Were you eating the same diet? Because if so being more active would
> >> have reduced your BGs which would have reduced your trigs. You could
> >> only claim an exercise effect if you adjusted your diet to have the
> >> same BGs when you were inactive & active. From some of your other
> >> posts I get the impression you didn't, am I right?
> >
> >
> >I guess that would mean non diabetics dont have to worry about
> >Triglycerides.
> >
> ??? How did you conclude that from that comment?

Logic is not his long suit.

Priscilla

For me, i found that in the last 3 month period between blood tests, my A1C
went from 5.8 to 6.1% (I think from less winter exersize). But at the same
time, my trigs went from 70 to 46. So lack of exercise didn't hurt my
trigs. I do eat low carb, hi fat diet.
I have just gone off of lipitor to see how I do by diet alone. In the same
period, my hdl went up slightly but so did my ldl.

Ed
glyburide-metformin 1.25/250, 3x per day.

"Gantlet" <Tom@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> wrote in message
news:2r1Fh.15777$sv6.3569@trndny08...
> When I compare past to present blood work I found
> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs jumped up.
> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66 points.
> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how active I am.
>
> its really a personal thing on what path you should take.. jmo
> some people who cant exercise or basically sit and chat all day must limit
> other things to much smaller portions much more than those that can
> exercise or even take a few daily walks.
> for me increased exercise leads to a more enjoyable life.
> --
> Tom
>
> www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com
>
>
> "OldBriar" <mwholland@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsn29u2ls4cim2r08a3cddpn25l3p7tckdo@4ax.com...
>>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
>> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>>
>> Thanks to the group.
>
>

Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
> In article <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>,
> Gill Murray <gillmurray1@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
>>OldBriar wrote:
>>
>>>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
>>>Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>>>
>>>Thanks to the group.
>>
>>After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high as 2000) and
>>cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds, my T2 diabetic
>>husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The doctor put him on "no
>>carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I kept them as low as
>>possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and HDL were all in the
>>normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>>
>>I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and I know people
>>react differently, but this is one case where I witnessed amazing
>>results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It is always worth
>>discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work for you.
>
>
> I'm curious as to why his A1c would be *up* after a strenuous reduction
> in carb intake.
>
> Priscilla

I really don't know, Priscilla. It was only a tiny amount over the
normal range, but off hand I can't remember the figure. I think it was
something like .2 above the normal range. He was also put on insulin in
january, when he was sick, and was responsible for adjusting the dosage
himself. Whrn I said "up", I meant over the normal range, not in
comparison to previous test, which I think were in the upper 6s, low 7s.

It will be interesting to see the results when je goes to the Dr again
in April! He has been eating a larger amount of food, but I try to fill
him up on green veggies and salads! Thank heavens he loves squash; he
gets that very frequently.

Gillian

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Ed wrote:
> For me, i found that in the last 3 month period between blood tests, my A1C
> went from 5.8 to 6.1% (I think from less winter exersize). But at the same
> time, my trigs went from 70 to 46. So lack of exercise didn't hurt my
> trigs. I do eat low carb, hi fat diet.
> I have just gone off of lipitor to see how I do by diet alone. In the same
> period, my hdl went up slightly but so did my ldl.

During periods of extremely low physical activity, I've been able to
keep my TGLs about 100 by cutting carbs.

Susan

On Feb 28, 10:09�am, "Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> In article <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>,
> *Gill Murray <gillmurr...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > OldBriar wrote:
> > > I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> > > Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> > > Thanks to the group.
>
> > After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high as 2000) and
> > cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds, my T2 diabetic
> > husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The doctor put him on "no
> > carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I kept them as low as
> > possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and HDL were all in the
> > normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>
> > I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and I know people
> > react differently, but this is one case where I witnessed amazing
> > results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It is always worth
> > discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work for you.
>
> I'm curious as to why his A1c would be *up* after a strenuous reduction
> in carb intake.

Because it's not all just about carbs. Obviously logic is not your
"long suit" either, Priscilla.

Kurt

Gill Murray wrote:
> Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
>> In article <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>,
>> Gill Murray <gillmurray1@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>OldBriar wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and
Cholesterol.
>>>>Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks to the group.
>>>
>>>After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high
as 2000)
>>>and cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds,
my T2
>>>diabetic husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The
doctor put him
>>>on "no carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I
kept them as
>>>low as possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and
HDL were all
>>>in the normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>>>
>>>I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and
I know
>>>people react differently, but this is one case where I
witnessed
>>>amazing results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It
is always
>>>worth discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work
for you.
>>
>>
>> I'm curious as to why his A1c would be *up* after a
strenuous
>> reduction in carb intake.
>>
>> Priscilla
>
> I really don't know, Priscilla. It was only a tiny amount
over the
> normal range, but off hand I can't remember the figure. I
think it was
> something like .2 above the normal range. He was also put
on insulin
> in january, when he was sick, and was responsible for
adjusting the
> dosage himself. Whrn I said "up", I meant over the normal
range, not
> in comparison to previous test, which I think were in the
upper 6s,
> low 7s.

So was the "up" higher or lower than his previous A1c? Just
want to clairfy as I am getting confused now

Kurt wrote:
> On Feb 28, 10:09�am, "Priscilla H. Ballou"
<vze23...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> In article <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>,
>> Gill Murray <gillmurr...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > OldBriar wrote:
>> > > I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and
>> > > Cholesterol. Will getting my BG under control help
this also?
>>
>> > > Thanks to the group.
>>
>> > After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as
high as 2000)
>> > and cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite
meds, my T2
>> > diabetic husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The
doctor put
>> > him on "no carbs" (we know that is an impossibility),
but I kept
>> > them as low as possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig,
LDL and
>> > HDL were all in the normal range, and his A1c was only
a tad up.
>>
>> > I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice,
and I know
>> > people react differently, but this is one case where I
witnessed
>> > amazing results by reducing carbs as low as possible.
It is always
>> > worth discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will
work for you.
>>
>> I'm curious as to why his A1c would be *up* after a
strenuous
>> reduction in carb intake.
>
> Because it's not all just about carbs. Obviously logic is
not your
> "long suit" either, Priscilla.

Wait until Gill has fully clarified what she means by "up"
before ripping into Priscilla. See, you do make personal
attacks without provocation.

Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
> In article <fmr9u21da1r9tsbo0ipomiif8ls8sia1i1@4ax.com>,
> Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:00:51 GMT, "Gantlet"
>> <Tom@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:54k03jF21emlfU2@mid.individual.net...
>> >> Gantlet <Tom@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> When I compare past to present blood work I found
>> >>> when I was on my back and unable to move my trigs
jumped up.
>> >>> now that I am more active again they dropped down 66
points.
>> >>> so for me I am thinking the biggest effect is how
active I am.
>> >>
>> >> Were you eating the same diet? Because if so being
more active
>> >> would have reduced your BGs which would have reduced
your trigs.
>> >> You could only claim an exercise effect if you
adjusted your diet
>> >> to have the same BGs when you were inactive & active.
From some
>> >> of your other posts I get the impression you didn't,
am I right?
>> >
>> >
>> >I guess that would mean non diabetics dont have to worry
about
>> >Triglycerides.
>> >
>> ??? How did you conclude that from that comment?
>
> Logic is not his long suit.
>
> Priscilla

Can I borrow that comment too?

Ed wrote:
> For me, i found that in the last 3 month period between
blood tests,
> my A1C went from 5.8 to 6.1% (I think from less winter
exersize).
> But at the same time, my trigs went from 70 to 46. So
lack of
> exercise didn't hurt my trigs. I do eat low carb, hi fat
diet.

Just curious about what constitutes a high fat diet in your
opinion. What percentage of total diet, what types of fat
and how much etc.

Ozgirl wrote:
> Gill Murray wrote:
>
>>Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
>>
>>>In article <nT1Fh.1980$JB2.121@trnddc07>,
>>> Gill Murray <gillmurray1@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OldBriar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and
>
> Cholesterol.
>
>>>>>Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks to the group.
>>>>
>>>>After consistently appallingly high triglycerides(as high
>
> as 2000)
>
>>>>and cholesterol( as high as 650) for years, despite meds,
>
> my T2
>
>>>>diabetic husband had acute pancreatitis Jan 2006. The
>
> doctor put him
>
>>>>on "no carbs" (we know that is an impossibility), but I
>
> kept them as
>
>>>>low as possible. 9 months later the Chol, Trig, LDL and
>
> HDL were all
>
>>>>in the normal range, and his A1c was only a tad up.
>>>>
>>>>I am not a physician, so do not give medical advice, and
>
> I know
>
>>>>people react differently, but this is one case where I
>
> witnessed
>
>>>>amazing results by reducing carbs as low as possible. It
>
> is always
>
>>>>worth discussing with your MD, and seeing if it will work
>
> for you.
>
>>>
>>>I'm curious as to why his A1c would be *up* after a
>
> strenuous
>
>>>reduction in carb intake.
>>>
>>>Priscilla
>>
>>I really don't know, Priscilla. It was only a tiny amount
>
> over the
>
>>normal range, but off hand I can't remember the figure. I
>
> think it was
>
>>something like .2 above the normal range. He was also put
>
> on insulin
>
>>in january, when he was sick, and was responsible for
>
> adjusting the
>
>>dosage himself. Whrn I said "up", I meant over the normal
>
> range, not
>
>>in comparison to previous test, which I think were in the
>
> upper 6s,
>
>>low 7s.
>
>
> So was the "up" higher or lower than his previous A1c? Just
> want to clairfy as I am getting confused now
>
OK, sorry to be confusing!!! It was definitely lower than in the past!
(Just not within the *normal* parameters).Overall, I was tickled pink to
see the results.

Gillian ( maybe the hot weather is getting to my feeble brain!)

> Wait until Gill has fully clarified what she means by "up"
> before ripping into Priscilla. See, you do make personal
> attacks without provocation.

For those who are always demanding that I specifically point out the
kind of hypocrisy that goes on in here, consider this Exhibit A.
Priscilla made a mean spirited insult about Tom. No one said a peep
about that. But when I gave her a taste of her own medicine, someone
jumps in and says that I "attacked without provocation." As I've
always said, it's only an insult if it involves anyone except Kurt or
Tom...if it's about us then it becomes fodder to be borrowed and
quoted.

Kurt

On Feb 27, 2:53 pm, OldBriar <mwholl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am having a big problem with both Triglycerides and Cholesterol.
> Will getting my BG under control help this also?
>
> Thanks to the group.

Here is my story of Triglycerides: 3 years ago my triglycerides were
1300, you proabably already know that the normal healthy range is 150
or less. After I changed my lifestyle I lowered my triglycerides to 65
without medication. I took TriCor for 3 years. Be sure to keep your
triglycerides in the normal range because triglycerides are fat in the
blood and will turn to plaque in the arteries if not controlled. In
fact mine were so high, my doctor chuckled at me and told me that we
could watch plaque form "right before our very eyes" with numbers that
high.