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Old 01-27-2007, 04:54 PM
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I'm looking at magazine that has an article entitled, "Activate your
skinny gene" with the caption, "Try the underground diet scientists
are raving about!". Underground?

James B. Johnson, M.D., researcher at the Louisianna State University
basically advices us to eat as usually -meaning no restriction- one
day, and eat between 1000 to 1200 calories the next day. The diet has
been dubbed, "up-day, down-day dieting". It's all about alternating.
He claims that this alternating triggers the skinny gene known as
SIRT1. He ventures to the point of saying, "You can't store fat if
your SIRT1 is activated".

For me, that's a low-calorie diet. Instead of going at 1500 calories
EVERY day, you go at 2000 calories one day, 1000 calories the next
day, 2500 calories the day after, and 500 calories the day after that
one, which balances out to 1500 calories a day. Whatever health
magazine I open all the diets I've seen suggest to eat an average of
about 1500 calories. Not just a few magazines, but EVERY ONE OF THEM!

What do we know about SIRT1?

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Old 01-27-2007, 04:54 PM
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<mikesmith9999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking at magazine that has an article entitled, "Activate your
> skinny gene" with the caption, "Try the underground diet scientists
> are raving about!". Underground?
>
> James B. Johnson, M.D., researcher at the Louisianna State University
> basically advices us to eat as usually -meaning no restriction- one
> day, and eat between 1000 to 1200 calories the next day. The diet has
> been dubbed, "up-day, down-day dieting". It's all about alternating.
> He claims that this alternating triggers the skinny gene known as
> SIRT1. He ventures to the point of saying, "You can't store fat if
> your SIRT1 is activated".
>
> For me, that's a low-calorie diet. Instead of going at 1500 calories
> EVERY day, you go at 2000 calories one day, 1000 calories the next
> day, 2500 calories the day after, and 500 calories the day after that
> one, which balances out to 1500 calories a day. Whatever health
> magazine I open all the diets I've seen suggest to eat an average of
> about 1500 calories. Not just a few magazines, but EVERY ONE OF THEM!
>
> What do we know about SIRT1?


It's just another name for a diet we've called the "zig zag" diet. By zig
zagging calories, your body doesn't get "used" to a set calorie level, plus
it gives you the benefit of having some opportunity to eat those things not
usually allowed during a diet. It worked for me, but moreso because I know
that if I could just "tough it out" for a few more days, I'd get my "refeed
day". But I only had a refeed once a week.


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Old 01-27-2007, 07:40 PM
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On Jan 27, 10:54 am, "determined" <determi...@comcast.nest> wrote:
> <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169912986.393585.114400@v45g2000cwv.g ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm looking at magazine that has an article entitled, "Activate your
> > skinny gene" with the caption, "Try the underground diet scientists
> > are raving about!". Underground?

>
> > James B. Johnson, M.D., researcher at the Louisianna State University
> > basically advices us to eat as usually -meaning no restriction- one
> > day, and eat between 1000 to 1200 calories the next day. The diet has
> > been dubbed, "up-day, down-day dieting". It's all about alternating.
> > He claims that this alternating triggers the skinny gene known as
> > SIRT1. He ventures to the point of saying, "You can't store fat if
> > your SIRT1 is activated".

>
> > For me, that's a low-calorie diet. Instead of going at 1500 calories
> > EVERY day, you go at 2000 calories one day, 1000 calories the next
> > day, 2500 calories the day after, and 500 calories the day after that
> > one, which balances out to 1500 calories a day. Whatever health
> > magazine I open all the diets I've seen suggest to eat an average of
> > about 1500 calories. Not just a few magazines, but EVERY ONE OF THEM!

>
> > What do we know about SIRT1?It's just another name for a diet we've called the "zig zag" diet. By zig

> zagging calories, your body doesn't get "used" to a set calorie level, plus
> it gives you the benefit of having some opportunity to eat those things not
> usually allowed during a diet. It worked for me, but moreso because I know
> that if I could just "tough it out" for a few more days, I'd get my "refeed
> day". But I only had a refeed once a week.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


Thanks for the info. That diet is not a bad idea at all. Some days I
don't feel to eat that much, so I should not force myself to eat. A
few snacks throughout the day would be enough. As I want to keep an
average of 1600 calorie a day, the strategy would be for me to eat
1000 calories one day, and eat the "unused" 600 calories on a day when
I have a good appetite which would give me a good 2100 calories that
day. 1500 calories a day is hard for me, but I could live with
strategy with more ease.

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:43 PM
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On 27 Jan 2007 07:49:46 -0800, mikesmith9999@hotmail.com wrote:

> I'm looking at magazine that has an article entitled, "Activate your
> skinny gene" with the caption, "Try the underground diet scientists
> are raving about!". Underground?
>
> James B. Johnson, M.D., researcher at the Louisianna State University
> basically advices us to eat as usually -meaning no restriction- one
> day, and eat between 1000 to 1200 calories the next day. The diet has
> been dubbed, "up-day, down-day dieting". It's all about alternating.
> He claims that this alternating triggers the skinny gene known as
> SIRT1. He ventures to the point of saying, "You can't store fat if
> your SIRT1 is activated".


He's full of shit.

> For me, that's a low-calorie diet. Instead of going at 1500 calories
> EVERY day, you go at 2000 calories one day, 1000 calories the next
> day, 2500 calories the day after, and 500 calories the day after that
> one, which balances out to 1500 calories a day.


Eat two pounds or less a day, on balance, guess what, over time you have
a low calorie mean intake.

> Whatever health
> magazine I open all the diets I've seen suggest to eat an average of
> about 1500 calories. Not just a few magazines, but EVERY ONE OF THEM!


What does that tell you? That they sell fluff, use them for what they
are, entertainment pieces.
>
> What do we know about SIRT1?


Nothing that you or I need to care about.

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:43 PM
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>> For me, that's a low-calorie diet. Instead of going at 1500 calories
>> EVERY day, you go at 2000 calories one day, 1000 calories the next
>> day, 2500 calories the day after, and 500 calories the day after that
>> one, which balances out to 1500 calories a day. Whatever health
>> magazine I open all the diets I've seen suggest to eat an average of
>> about 1500 calories. Not just a few magazines, but EVERY ONE OF THEM!
>>
>> What do we know about SIRT1?


On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 07:54:37 -0800, determined wrote:

> It's just another name for a diet we've called the "zig zag" diet.


We who? "We" as if you are part of the scientific community of weight
loss researchers? "You're" a poster on Usenet, don't delude yourself.

> By zig
> zagging calories, your body doesn't get "used" to a set calorie level,


When does it? It never does, nearly everyone's intake is cyclical.

> plus
> it gives you the benefit of having some opportunity to eat those things not
> usually allowed during a diet.


Diets that specifically call for counting and restrict caloric intake
fail, the history is there, the studies are there, 95% rescission in
less that two years.

> It worked for me, but moreso because I know
> that if I could just "tough it out" for a few more days, I'd get my "refeed
> day". But I only had a refeed once a week.


This isn't a "diet", it's volume restriction and if you added the mass
of the food you ate, using a $10 scale instead of $1,000s in wasted
time, books, posts and effort, you would have come out the same.

Assuming your not lying and are actually at weighted loss.

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:43 PM
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On 27 Jan 2007 10:49:03 -0800, mikesmith9999@hotmail.com wrote:

> That diet is not a bad idea at all. Some days I
> don't feel to eat that much, so I should not force myself to eat. A
> few snacks throughout the day would be enough. As I want to keep an
> average of 1600 calorie a day,


Got your bomb calorimeter portable?

> the strategy would be for me to eat
> 1000 calories one day, and eat the "unused" 600 calories on a day when
> I have a good appetite which would give me a good 2100 calories that
> day. 1500 calories a day is hard for me, but I could live with
> strategy with more ease.


Screw strategy. Buy a $10 scale, weigh everything you eat except water,
you'll actually, then, have a strategy.

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Old 01-29-2007, 10:29 PM
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Are you the Asian doctor who promoted a 2-pound-a-day diet? The one
who was banned from working in a certain hospital? Is it you???

On Jan 29, 2:55 pm, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27 Jan 2007 10:49:03 -0800, mikesmith9...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > That diet is not a bad idea at all. Some days I
> > don't feel to eat that much, so I should not force myself to eat. A
> > few snacks throughout the day would be enough. As I want to keep an
> > average of 1600 calorie a day,Got your bomb calorimeter portable?

>
> > the strategy would be for me to eat
> > 1000 calories one day, and eat the "unused" 600 calories on a day when
> > I have a good appetite which would give me a good 2100 calories that
> > day. 1500 calories a day is hard for me, but I could live with
> > strategy with more ease.Screw strategy. Buy a $10 scale, weigh everything you eat except water,

> you'll actually, then, have a strategy.
>
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:36 AM
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"determined" <determi...@comcast.nest> wrote:
> <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > James B. Johnson, M.D., researcher at the Louisianna State University
> > basically advices us to eat as usually -meaning no restriction- one
> > day, and eat between 1000 to 1200 calories the next day. The diet has
> > been dubbed, "up-day, down-day dieting". It's all about alternating.

>
> It's just another name for a diet we've called the "zig zag" diet. By zig
> zagging calories, your body doesn't get "used" to a set calorie level, plus


There are studies that show T3 thyroid output dropping after 2+ weeks
of
extremely low carb intake. There are studies that show that leptin
drops
after a couple of months of extremely low car intake. Since low fat
dieting
is also driven by a few hormone feedback loops I figure those have
time
spans of weeks or months as well. The "get used to" comment isn't a
mystical idea but an observation that's backed up by specific studies
as
long as it's used specifically enough.

> it gives you the benefit of having some opportunity to eat those things not
> usually allowed during a diet. It worked for me, but moreso because I know
> that if I could just "tough it out" for a few more days, I'd get my "refeed
> day". But I only had a refeed once a week.


Alternating is harder work than low carbing. I don't know if it's
harder work
than low fatting. But it does work very well combined with either.

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Old 01-30-2007, 10:25 AM
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On 29 Jan 2007 13:27:09 -0800, mikesmith9999@hotmail.com wrote:

> Are you the Asian doctor who promoted a 2-pound-a-day diet? The one
> who was banned from working in a certain hospital? Is it you???


Yeah, that's Mu, you caught Mu, you're no match for MuChung. How was it
that you found out? Teach of where dozens have failed.

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