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11-12-2006, 02:28 AM
| | | Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? Anyone drinks wine during Atkins Introduction?
And I am allergic to eggs, what is an alternative item that I could eat for
breakfast instead of eggs? | 
11-12-2006, 02:28 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting?
"wjanni" <u28985@uwe> wrote in message news:692430c561b20@uwe...
> Anyone drinks wine during Atkins Introduction?
>
> And I am allergic to eggs, what is an alternative item that I could eat
> for
> breakfast instead of eggs?
>
I've never done Atkins. But I allow room in my WOE for a nice glass of wine
ever once in a while. You can make some real good faux egg recipes with
tofu. Do a google and you'll find lots and lots of recipes.
Tonia | 
11-13-2006, 05:54 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? wjanni <u28985@uwe> wrote:
> Anyone drinks wine during Atkins Introduction?
>
> And I am allergic to eggs, what is an alternative item that I could
> eat for breakfast instead of eggs?
If you're going to do Atkins induction you should do it as written which
means if it's not on the list of allowable foods you don't eat/drink it.
Wine is not on the list.
Having said that you do not have to do induction to follow the Atkins diet.
The two week induction phase is designed to help people get into ketosis and
lose glycogen and water quickly.
Anything you can eat the rest of the day can be eaten at breakfast. There's
plenty of times I've eaten leftovers from dinner for breakfast the next day.
One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein, or
carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
calories. | 
11-13-2006, 05:55 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? Jeri wrote:
>> Anyone drinks wine during Atkins Introduction?
>>
>> And I am allergic to eggs, what is an alternative item that I could
>> eat for breakfast instead of eggs?
>
>If you're going to do Atkins induction you should do it as written which
>means if it's not on the list of allowable foods you don't eat/drink it.
>Wine is not on the list.
>
>Having said that you do not have to do induction to follow the Atkins diet.
>The two week induction phase is designed to help people get into ketosis and
>lose glycogen and water quickly.
>
>Anything you can eat the rest of the day can be eaten at breakfast. There's
>plenty of times I've eaten leftovers from dinner for breakfast the next day.
>
>One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein, or
>carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
>calories.
Hi,
You have made a very good point. Alcohol is made of carbs therefore carbs
will be burned first. Thank you for your reply. I am sticking to Atkin diet
as what I am told by the book until I meet my weight goal. It is my third
day of induction.
What do you eat for breakfast? I am allergic to eggs. I sometime ate the
Atkins breakfast bar. It does help.
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11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? wjanni via WeightAdviser.com <u28985@uwe> wrote:
<snip>
> Hi,
>
> You have made a very good point. Alcohol is made of carbs therefore
> carbs will be burned first. Thank you for your reply. I am sticking
> to Atkin diet as what I am told by the book until I meet my weight
> goal. It is my third day of induction.
>
> What do you eat for breakfast? I am allergic to eggs. I sometime
> ate the Atkins breakfast bar. It does help.
You've misunderstood. Alcohol is not made up of carbs. Alcohol is alcohol.
It's a separate category of calories. Pure alcohol (vodka, gin, whisky, etc)
have no carbs but they do have calories and will be burned first before
carbs, fats, or proteins. Wine does have carbs but they come from the sugar
content not the alcohol.
For breakfast you could eat chunks or rolls of meat and cheese, any
leftovers from the night before (I always made extra salmon so I could have
some for breakfast the next day), meat mixed with cream cheese on celery or
other acceptable veggies, broiled tomato slices or mushroom caps with
cheese, tuna or chicken salad on veggies.... like I said before, anything
you can eat the rest of the day can be eaten for breakfast. Break out of the
"breakfast food" mentality and a whole new world opens up.  )
I always tried to stay away from prepackaged foods whenever possible. Maybe
it's just me but real food satisfies me more than bars or packaged foods. | 
11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting?
On Nov 12, 11:46 am, "Jeri" <stargaze...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein, or
> carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
> calories.
Understanding how alcohol is digested might help. Your liver, whose
primary role in the digestion process is to delegate fats to storage or
for energy use is compromised when you drink any sort of alcohol. The
liver stops its usual job and switches modes to rid the body of the
alcohol which it perceives as a toxin. While doing this priority job,
the liver has its 'fat switch' in standby mode - whether its bodyfat
thats broken down into your bloodstream or fats you ingest from foods,
its all going back into storage for later use. Depending on how much
you drink, it may take up to four days for your liver to cleanse itself
of the alcohol. So even if you are eating well and exercising each day,
it may be for naught as you shot yourself in the foot/sabotaged your
weightloss by drinking.
So choices choices ...which is your priority?
joanne | 
11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? joanne wrote:
>
> On Nov 12, 11:46 am, "Jeri" <stargaze...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>>diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein, or
>>carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
>>calories.
>
>
> Understanding how alcohol is digested might help. Your liver, whose
> primary role in the digestion process is to delegate fats to storage or
> for energy use is compromised when you drink any sort of alcohol. The
> liver stops its usual job and switches modes to rid the body of the
> alcohol which it perceives as a toxin. While doing this priority job,
> the liver has its 'fat switch' in standby mode - whether its bodyfat
> thats broken down into your bloodstream or fats you ingest from foods,
> its all going back into storage for later use. Depending on how much
> you drink, it may take up to four days for your liver to cleanse itself
> of the alcohol. So even if you are eating well and exercising each day,
> it may be for naught as you shot yourself in the foot/sabotaged your
> weightloss by drinking.
> So choices choices ...which is your priority?
>
>
> joanne
>
Then isn't it strange that moderate (1 to 2 drinks per day) alcohol
consumption is associated with lower mortality?
--
Del Cecchi
"This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
strategies or opinions.” | 
11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? My priority is meeting my ideal weight. That would be a staying and sticking
to an induction no matter what for next two weeks. I started this diet on
November 10th and I was surprised to see myself not needing the wines. I
don’t have any desire for wines at every dinner. It seems that during the
induction does the work on releasing the sugar from my body system. I feel
great so far. Although, I watch on what I eat on Atkins, I don’t try to eat
red meat everyday, instead eat more fish, cream, and green salad. That way
it doesn’t disease on my heart, liver, or else.
joanne wrote:
>> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein, or
>> carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
>> calories.
>
>Understanding how alcohol is digested might help. Your liver, whose
>primary role in the digestion process is to delegate fats to storage or
>for energy use is compromised when you drink any sort of alcohol. The
>liver stops its usual job and switches modes to rid the body of the
>alcohol which it perceives as a toxin. While doing this priority job,
>the liver has its 'fat switch' in standby mode - whether its bodyfat
>thats broken down into your bloodstream or fats you ingest from foods,
>its all going back into storage for later use. Depending on how much
>you drink, it may take up to four days for your liver to cleanse itself
>of the alcohol. So even if you are eating well and exercising each day,
>it may be for naught as you shot yourself in the foot/sabotaged your
>weightloss by drinking.
>So choices choices ...which is your priority?
>
>joanne
--
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11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? Really? I didn't know that. I thought that alochol has carbs. You are
right and it has a lot of calories, not carbs. It can be easily confused.
Thank you for correcting it.
Jeri wrote:
><snip>
>> Hi,
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> What do you eat for breakfast? I am allergic to eggs. I sometime
>> ate the Atkins breakfast bar. It does help.
>
>You've misunderstood. Alcohol is not made up of carbs. Alcohol is alcohol.
>It's a separate category of calories. Pure alcohol (vodka, gin, whisky, etc)
>have no carbs but they do have calories and will be burned first before
>carbs, fats, or proteins. Wine does have carbs but they come from the sugar
>content not the alcohol.
>
>For breakfast you could eat chunks or rolls of meat and cheese, any
>leftovers from the night before (I always made extra salmon so I could have
>some for breakfast the next day), meat mixed with cream cheese on celery or
>other acceptable veggies, broiled tomato slices or mushroom caps with
>cheese, tuna or chicken salad on veggies.... like I said before, anything
>you can eat the rest of the day can be eaten for breakfast. Break out of the
>"breakfast food" mentality and a whole new world opens up. )
>
>I always tried to stay away from prepackaged foods whenever possible. Maybe
>it's just me but real food satisfies me more than bars or packaged foods.
--
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11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? joanne wrote:
>
> On Nov 12, 11:46 am, "Jeri" <stargaze...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein, or
>> carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
>> calories.
>
> Understanding how alcohol is digested might help. Your liver, whose
> primary role in the digestion process is to delegate fats to storage or
> for energy use is compromised when you drink any sort of alcohol. The
> liver stops its usual job and switches modes to rid the body of the
> alcohol which it perceives as a toxin. While doing this priority job,
> the liver has its 'fat switch' in standby mode - whether its bodyfat
> thats broken down into your bloodstream or fats you ingest from foods,
> its all going back into storage for later use. Depending on how much
> you drink, it may take up to four days for your liver to cleanse itself
> of the alcohol. So even if you are eating well and exercising each day,
> it may be for naught as you shot yourself in the foot/sabotaged your
> weightloss by drinking.
> So choices choices ...which is your priority?
>
>
> joanne
>
One can also choose balance. Food and alcohol in moderation.
--
Cheese http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php | 
11-14-2006, 02:25 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting?
"joanne" <jgrrl2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163436868.195626.288920@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
> On Nov 12, 11:46 am, "Jeri" <stargaze...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein,
>> or
>> carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
>> calories.
>
> Understanding how alcohol is digested might help. Your liver, whose
> primary role in the digestion process is to delegate fats to storage or
> for energy use is compromised when you drink any sort of alcohol. The
> liver stops its usual job and switches modes to rid the body of the
> alcohol which it perceives as a toxin. While doing this priority job,
> the liver has its 'fat switch' in standby mode - whether its bodyfat
> thats broken down into your bloodstream or fats you ingest from foods,
> its all going back into storage for later use. Depending on how much
> you drink, it may take up to four days for your liver to cleanse itself
> of the alcohol. So even if you are eating well and exercising each day,
> it may be for naught as you shot yourself in the foot/sabotaged your
> weightloss by drinking.
> So choices choices ...which is your priority?
>
>
> joanne
Calories are calories. Whatever your liver is up to with the alcohol, you
still need the same number of calories for the activity - whether they come
from alcohol, fat or spinach makes no difference.
--
Rachael
176/116/<119 www.justgiving.com/rachaelslondonmarathon
> | 
11-14-2006, 02:25 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? Rachael Reynolds wrote:
> "joanne" <jgrrl2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1163436868.195626.288920@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> On Nov 12, 11:46 am, "Jeri" <stargaze...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>>> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein,
>>> or
>>> carbs. It usually doesn't contribute nutrients so it's basically empty
>>> calories.
>> Understanding how alcohol is digested might help. Your liver, whose
>> primary role in the digestion process is to delegate fats to storage or
>> for energy use is compromised when you drink any sort of alcohol. The
>> liver stops its usual job and switches modes to rid the body of the
>> alcohol which it perceives as a toxin. While doing this priority job,
>> the liver has its 'fat switch' in standby mode - whether its bodyfat
>> thats broken down into your bloodstream or fats you ingest from foods,
>> its all going back into storage for later use. Depending on how much
>> you drink, it may take up to four days for your liver to cleanse itself
>> of the alcohol. So even if you are eating well and exercising each day,
>> it may be for naught as you shot yourself in the foot/sabotaged your
>> weightloss by drinking.
>> So choices choices ...which is your priority?
>>
>>
>> joanne
>
> Calories are calories. Whatever your liver is up to with the alcohol, you
> still need the same number of calories for the activity - whether they come
> from alcohol, fat or spinach makes no difference.
>
>
I have not found this to be true. My current diet includes 2 martinis
(517 calories). I have increased and decreased alcohol consumption with
no change in my weight. Increasing or decreasing food by that same
caloric amount does change weight and very quickly I might add. I have
no scientific explanation, merely personal experience that shows alcohol
calories are somehow different. Perhaps the mixers or munchies served
with the cocktails can cause a significant gain, but so far the vodka
has not shown the changes that 500+ calories should.
--
Cheese http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php | 
11-14-2006, 02:25 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? But what about Atkins during the induction? This was my point of asking
about alochol during the first phase of four phases. Can you tell me whether
or not if I could still have alochol during on Atkins Induction?
Cheese wrote:
>>>> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>>>> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein,
>[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> still need the same number of calories for the activity - whether they come
>> from alcohol, fat or spinach makes no difference.
>
>I have not found this to be true. My current diet includes 2 martinis
>(517 calories). I have increased and decreased alcohol consumption with
>no change in my weight. Increasing or decreasing food by that same
>caloric amount does change weight and very quickly I might add. I have
>no scientific explanation, merely personal experience that shows alcohol
>calories are somehow different. Perhaps the mixers or munchies served
>with the cocktails can cause a significant gain, but so far the vodka
>has not shown the changes that 500+ calories should.
--
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11-14-2006, 06:40 PM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? wjanni via WeightAdviser.com wrote:
> But what about Atkins during the induction? This was my point of asking
> about alochol during the first phase of four phases. Can you tell me whether
> or not if I could still have alochol during on Atkins Induction?
>
> Cheese wrote:
>>>>> One more thing to add about alcohol/wine......no matter what weight loss
>>>>> diet you choose to follow, alcohol is burned first before fat, protein,
>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>> still need the same number of calories for the activity - whether they come
>>> from alcohol, fat or spinach makes no difference.
>> I have not found this to be true. My current diet includes 2 martinis
>> (517 calories). I have increased and decreased alcohol consumption with
>> no change in my weight. Increasing or decreasing food by that same
>> caloric amount does change weight and very quickly I might add. I have
>> no scientific explanation, merely personal experience that shows alcohol
>> calories are somehow different. Perhaps the mixers or munchies served
>> with the cocktails can cause a significant gain, but so far the vodka
>> has not shown the changes that 500+ calories should.
>
Sorry, not following a low carbohydrate plan so no, I cannot offer you
experience one way or the other.
How hard do you want to push your liver? Assuming you're planning to
use your liver to generate glucose for the length of your low carb diet
(ketosis) do you want to also make it metabolize alcohol?
Bottom line, check the book. If you don't have the book, I suggest you
get one since assuming you're on the Atikins diet without the book is a
mistake.
--
Cheese http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php | 
11-15-2006, 08:24 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? You can't not have a drink for two weeks? | 
11-15-2006, 08:24 AM
| | | Re: Anyone drinks Wine during Atkins Introducting? They are asking for our permission to tell them it is okay to drink. That
is what they are fishing for. No, it is not okay to drink alcohol while on
induction, whether you do the two week induction or choose to stay on it
longer. I have a feeling you are going to do whatever you want anyways. So
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