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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 AM
Matty \(I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway\)
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http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...59739&GT1=9303


Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
chain restaurants.

I don't know about the fast food places, asking for the changes the article
offers would probably warrant a disgruntled employee to 'add' something to
the special order...


Good tips, nonetheless...


Cheers!


Matty (I weighed more than Jared from Subway)
510/252/210
(starting weight/current weight/goal weight)


* mini goal achieved - jog 7k by 03/31/07
* mini goal - 300lbs total lost by 09/30/07


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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 AM
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:00:58 -0400, Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway) <Idontthinkso@spammy.net> wrote:
>
> http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...59739&GT1=9303
>
>
> Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
> chain restaurants.
>
> I don't know about the fast food places, asking for the changes the article
> offers would probably warrant a disgruntled employee to 'add' something to
> the special order...


They are typically so stupid and overworked that they cannot perform
such substitutions (and they also have a process that is not conducive
to any alterations).

When we visit McDonalds with my son, I ask for ice cream in a cone,
and I always ask to put a lot less ice cream than they normally
do. The reason for it is that my son cannot eat all ice cream anyway,
so the mountain of ice cream above the cone makes a huge mess when it
finally melts. Plus I do not think that eating so much ice cream is
good for him. I have not had ice cream in 4 years and do not finish
his ice cr5eam.

All that they have to do, is press the ice cream machine lever for a
little bit less time than normal. Guess what, 3 times out of four they
are uncapable of doing just what they were asked a minute ago, their
brains are fully turned off.

i
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 AM
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"Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway)" <Idontthinkso@spammy.net>
wrote in message news:131a08r69iuvv41@corp.supernews.com...
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> http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...59739&GT1=9303
>
>
> Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
> chain restaurants.
>
> I don't know about the fast food places, asking for the changes the
> article offers would probably warrant a disgruntled employee to 'add'
> something to the special order...
>

This is why on the occasions I need to eat at one of them I don't special
order but instead order something sane like salad or simply hold the mayo
and cheese.
--
the volleyballchick

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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 AM
Del Cecchi
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Ignoramus1197 wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:00:58 -0400, Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway) <Idontthinkso@spammy.net> wrote:
>
>>http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...59739&GT1=9303
>>
>>
>>Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
>>chain restaurants.
>>
>>I don't know about the fast food places, asking for the changes the article
>>offers would probably warrant a disgruntled employee to 'add' something to
>>the special order...

>
>
> They are typically so stupid and overworked that they cannot perform
> such substitutions (and they also have a process that is not conducive
> to any alterations).
>
> When we visit McDonalds with my son, I ask for ice cream in a cone,
> and I always ask to put a lot less ice cream than they normally
> do. The reason for it is that my son cannot eat all ice cream anyway,
> so the mountain of ice cream above the cone makes a huge mess when it
> finally melts. Plus I do not think that eating so much ice cream is
> good for him. I have not had ice cream in 4 years and do not finish
> his ice cr5eam.
>
> All that they have to do, is press the ice cream machine lever for a
> little bit less time than normal. Guess what, 3 times out of four they
> are uncapable of doing just what they were asked a minute ago, their
> brains are fully turned off.
>
> i

How do you know the ice cream machine isn't programmed to dispense a
fixed amount? The behind the counter pop machines were. Just ask for a
spoon and a courtesy cup and manually remove the excess.

Elitist pig.

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strategies or opinions.”
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 AM
Ignoramus1197
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:55:12 -0500, Del Cecchi <cecchinospam@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus1197 wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:00:58 -0400, Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway) <Idontthinkso@spammy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...59739&GT1=9303
>>>
>>>
>>>Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
>>>chain restaurants.
>>>
>>>I don't know about the fast food places, asking for the changes the article
>>>offers would probably warrant a disgruntled employee to 'add' something to
>>>the special order...

>>
>>
>> They are typically so stupid and overworked that they cannot perform
>> such substitutions (and they also have a process that is not conducive
>> to any alterations).
>>
>> When we visit McDonalds with my son, I ask for ice cream in a cone,
>> and I always ask to put a lot less ice cream than they normally
>> do. The reason for it is that my son cannot eat all ice cream anyway,
>> so the mountain of ice cream above the cone makes a huge mess when it
>> finally melts. Plus I do not think that eating so much ice cream is
>> good for him. I have not had ice cream in 4 years and do not finish
>> his ice cr5eam.
>>
>> All that they have to do, is press the ice cream machine lever for a
>> little bit less time than normal. Guess what, 3 times out of four they
>> are uncapable of doing just what they were asked a minute ago, their
>> brains are fully turned off.
>>
>> i

> How do you know the ice cream machine isn't programmed to dispense a
> fixed amount? The behind the counter pop machines were. Just ask for a
> spoon and a courtesy cup and manually remove the excess.
>
> Elitist pig.
>


I know that their machines can dispense less than the full amount,
because I saw them dispense less when they actually listened and
thought about it. Most of the time, they just do not think.

You may enjoy throwing food away, but I do not, I prefer to ask for
lesser amount.

i
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:44 AM
Kaz Kylheku
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On Apr 5, 7:00 am, "Matty \(I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway\)"
<Idontthin...@spammy.net> wrote:
> http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...ocumentid=1001...


The basic premise of this article is laughably stupid. Why go to these
places and try to fix the order? If Bob Evans might be in jail if
trans fats were criminal, why eat at his restaurant?

Maybe I'm biased by living in Vancouver, which has a lower obesity
rate than any other big city in North America. (11.7% according to
Statistics Canada figures for 2006). I'm doing my part by maintaining
at 6% body fat!

It's perhaps not an unrelated fact that we have seemingly boundless
choices for dining out well.

> Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
> chain restaurants.


The idiocy of this article reaches the first high point in its entry
for PF Chang's.

In correcting the Mu Shu Pork menu item, the author subtracts 490
calories, of which only 8 grams is fat! That's not even 20% of the
total calories. She's taking out a lean portion of the meal. What is
left behind is quite likely fatter as a consequence. Say, what if I /
want/ to eat 490 calories, with only 8 grams of fat in it?

Skip the hoisin sauce? Nothing wrong with that stuff. I have some in
the fridge and use it from time to time, and only maybe a teaspoon to
a tablespoon at a time. A 400 gram jar lasts me a year. She must be
confusing hoisin sauce with the fatty sauces used in the other
restaurants. The chief constituents of hoisin are sugar, water and
fermented soybean paste (i.e. something similar to miso). Oh yeah,
real killer stuff! One whiff and you put on half a pound.

Other stupidity in the article:

``[A] woman dines typically dines out five times per week.''

What? Maybe it describes cow who penned this claim, without any sort
of citation to back it up.

``Choose brown rice-it's lower in calories than fried varieties ...''

Is it rational to compare brown rice to fried rice??? Of course fried
rice has more calories, since it picks up oil. You can fry brown rice
too. I'm guessing that she is suggesting that white rice is fried in
order to imitate the color of brown rice, which isn't the case. There
isn't any deception: it's a traditional meal. (Actually, the brown
tint mostly comes from the soy sauce rather than the frying).

Now let's think about the idiocy of the suggestion that at an
``Asian'' place where you are supposedly ordering shrimp stir fry, you
should request brown rice instead of fried rice. Okay, first of all,
they won't have any brown rice in the back. Someone would have to be
sent on an errand to go buy it. Even if they have it, it won't be
cooked. So you're looking at a 50 minute wait for that. Your best bet
would be to cook your own brown rice at home, bring it in a plastic
container, and just order the stir-fried shrimp.

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Old 04-08-2007, 11:31 PM
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The best tip on eating out that I have heard, and that I continue to
hear repeatedly from the full spectrum of experts is to ask for half
of your meal to be wrapped up to go before it ever gets to you.

All of the portions everywhere are so out of control.

The worst that will happen is that you will under eat a bit and have
to eat your doggie bag sooner.

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Old 04-09-2007, 09:29 PM
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On Apr 5, 11:16 am, "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway)" <Idontthin...@spammy.net>
> wrote in messagenews:131a08r69iuvv41@corp.supernews.com...
>
> >http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/ar...ocumentid=1001...

>
> > Interesting article on MSN about eating healthier while eating out at some
> > chain restaurants.

>
> > I don't know about the fast food places, asking for the changes the
> > article offers would probably warrant a disgruntled employee to 'add'
> > something to the special order...

>
> This is why on the occasions I need to eat at one of them I don't special
> order but instead order something sane like salad or simply hold the mayo
> and cheese.
> --
> the volleyballchick


I have not eaten in an FF restaurant for years b/c being celiac, even
if I order a burger without the bun, there may be grain in meat. The
salads are awful. Even the new trendy ones are mostly white lettuce. I
do eat out often at Whole Foods where all ingredients in their takeout
are listed and there are some tasty and unusual choices, many many of
them. There is a nice sit down area in our Toronto WF.

Diva

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Old 04-11-2007, 10:40 PM
Diva
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On Apr 7, 9:53 pm, "Steve" <veganstir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The best tip on eating out that I have heard, and that I continue to
> hear repeatedly from the full spectrum of experts is to ask for half
> of your meal to be wrapped up to go before it ever gets to you.
>
> All of the portions everywhere are so out of control.
>
> The worst that will happen is that you will under eat a bit and have
> to eat your doggie bag sooner.


CNN had a discussion on fghting back aging which will be repeated over
the weekebd and they mentioned The Okinawa Diet whch was discussed on
this board many years ago. Longevity in those who eat this way is
attributed to the fact that they only eat 80% of what's on the plate.
I imagine we can assume the original portion is moderate.

Diva

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Old 04-11-2007, 10:40 PM
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On 7 Apr 2007 18:53:40 -0700, Steve wrote:

> All of the portions everywhere are so out of control.


So true but so are the obese. The portions wouldn't be so served if it
were not by popular demand.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:40 PM
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On 6 Apr 2007 09:36:46 -0700, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

> In correcting the Mu...


Careful.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:40 PM
Mu
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On 6 Apr 2007 09:36:46 -0700, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

> Maybe I'm biased by living in Vancouver, which has a lower obesity
> rate than any other big city in North America. (11.7% according to
> Statistics Canada figures for 2006). I'm doing my part by maintaining
> at 6% body fat!
>
> It's perhaps not an unrelated fact that we have seemingly boundless
> choices for dining out well.


Not unrelated at all. For whatever reasons, Vancouverians don't have
love-life relationships with their food hence they naturally eat less.
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