Atkins Protein Shake .. 80 cal from FAT?

Morning,

I've gained back some 60 pounds over the last couple years. I was down
to 220 from 280 two years ago (39yo male, 6'2). I think my suggested
is around $200, but I look good at 200 with thick arms and legs.

Changed jobs recently, started working out and while at for
convenience started drinking protein shakes in the morning on the way
in place of a fatty breakfast.

Tried a few shakes, and settled on the Atkins Advantage brand for
taste, price (about $1.75 a can) and that it kept me from not being
hungry until 1pm.

Anyways, was surprised to see that of the 160cal from the shake, 80cal
are from Fat. 2 grams of Carb. 2g of Saturated Fat. Comparing this to
Slimfast, 50 cal from fat, but 28g of Carb.

Does 80 cal from fat seem high? The shake does keep me satisfied a
little too well and the pounds have not been dropping, though I do
look like I'm losing the gut. So I was a little suspicious.

Also does anybody know of any good (tasty , inexpensive, safe and
effective) protein shakes or shake formulas? Is $1.70 for a 325ml can
reasonable? That's roughly $50 a month. It's certainly cheaper than
eating breakfast.

jc <jobs@webdos.com> wrote:
> Morning,
>
> I've gained back some 60 pounds over the last couple years. I was down
> to 220 from 280 two years ago (39yo male, 6'2). I think my suggested
> is around $200, but I look good at 200 with thick arms and legs.
>
> Changed jobs recently, started working out and while at for
> convenience started drinking protein shakes in the morning on the way
> in place of a fatty breakfast.
>
> Tried a few shakes, and settled on the Atkins Advantage brand for
> taste, price (about $1.75 a can) and that it kept me from not being
> hungry until 1pm.
>
> Anyways, was surprised to see that of the 160cal from the shake, 80cal
> are from Fat. 2 grams of Carb. 2g of Saturated Fat. Comparing this to
> Slimfast, 50 cal from fat, but 28g of Carb.

Is your goal to eat low carb or low fat? People who eat low carb get most of
their energy needs from fats rather than carbs so their diets are higher in
fat and lower in carbs. Fat in foods (with the exception of trans fat) is
not the enemy. It's combining high fat and high carb that's unhealthy.

> Does 80 cal from fat seem high? The shake does keep me satisfied a
> little too well and the pounds have not been dropping, though I do
> look like I'm losing the gut. So I was a little suspicious.

Is your goal a certain number on a scale or to be healthy? If you're
building muscle you may be losing fat yet not see much of a change on the
scale.

> Also does anybody know of any good (tasty , inexpensive, safe and
> effective) protein shakes or shake formulas? Is $1.70 for a 325ml can
> reasonable? That's roughly $50 a month. It's certainly cheaper than
> eating breakfast.

You need to decide what type of diet you want to eat and can stick to for
the rest of your life. Once you decide that then it will be easy for people
to recommend shake recipes.
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

"jc" <jobs@webdos.com> wrote in message
news:8c2ea7a0-5ec3-4ff8-a526-a4bee00c58cd@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Morning,
>
> I've gained back some 60 pounds over the last couple years. I was down
> to 220 from 280 two years ago (39yo male, 6'2). I think my suggested
> is around $200, but I look good at 200 with thick arms and legs.
>
> Changed jobs recently, started working out and while at for
> convenience started drinking protein shakes in the morning on the way
> in place of a fatty breakfast.
>
> Tried a few shakes, and settled on the Atkins Advantage brand for
> taste, price (about $1.75 a can) and that it kept me from not being
> hungry until 1pm.
>
> Anyways, was surprised to see that of the 160cal from the shake, 80cal
> are from Fat. 2 grams of Carb. 2g of Saturated Fat. Comparing this to
> Slimfast, 50 cal from fat, but 28g of Carb.
>
> Does 80 cal from fat seem high? The shake does keep me satisfied a
> little too well and the pounds have not been dropping, though I do
> look like I'm losing the gut. So I was a little suspicious.
>
> Also does anybody know of any good (tasty , inexpensive, safe and
> effective) protein shakes or shake formulas? Is $1.70 for a 325ml can
> reasonable? That's roughly $50 a month. It's certainly cheaper than
> eating breakfast.

Maybe I'm not awake yet, but I didn't see how much protein was in there.

Jeri already told you about the relationship of carbs and fat.

Your USENET name of jc is already in use by someone in this group, usually
as JCderKonig, or some variation. He is blocked by some readers.

Cubit <no@not.not> wrote:

> Your USENET name of jc is already in use by someone in this group, usually
> as JCderKonig, or some variation. He is blocked by some readers.

He hasn't posted here in ages.

On Feb 10, 12:29 pm, dhrr...@ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and
Jars) wrote:
> Cubit <n...@not.not> wrote:
> > Your USENET name of jc is already in use by someone in this group, usually
> > as JCderKonig, or some variation. He is blocked by some readers.
>
> He hasn't posted here in ages.

Yeah, somebody else.

Others:

As for if I prefer carbs over fats. I know my body does respond well
to low carb, though the sound of a high fat diet does sound risky. I
would imagine 40g calories from fat is likely not that big of a deal.

For me I think low carb mornings for sure works very well. And I do
also enjoy a nice juicy fat marbleized rib eye once a week.

I think it's pretty easy to identify what's really very wrong with
most overweight people's diets .. and it's likely not the little
things like if the protein shake is geared more toward low carb or
not..

But I hear you. Thanks.

On Feb 10, 2:05*pm, jc <j...@webdos.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:29 pm, dhrr...@ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and
>
> Jars) wrote:
> > Cubit <n...@not.not> wrote:
> > > Your USENET name of jc is already in use by someone in this group, usually
> > > as JCderKonig, or some variation. *He is blocked by some readers.
>
> > He hasn't posted here in ages.
>
> Yeah, somebody else.
>
> Others:
>
> As for if I prefer carbs over fats. I know my body does respond well
> to low carb, though the sound of a high fat diet does sound risky. I
> would imagine 40g calories from fat is likely not that big of a deal.
>
> For me I think low carb mornings for sure works very well. And I do
> also enjoy a nice juicy fat marbleized rib eye once a week.
>
> I think it's pretty easy to identify what's really very wrong with
> most overweight people's diets .. and it's likely not the little
> things like if the protein shake is geared more toward low carb or
> not..
>
> But I hear you. Thanks.

40 cal from fat for a breakfast is not high, even for a low-fat diet.
If you ate 40 cal from fat for each of 3 meals plus a snack, that is
only 160 cal. from fat, which for a 2500 cal/day diet puts you at 6.4%
fat, which is a VERY LOW fat diet and nearly impossible to achieve. I
suspect you are eating well over 20% fat if you follow anything from
Atkins. I eat a double portion of oats for breakfast and get 54 cal.
from fat in that. Of course there is a lot of food in two servings of
oats and I couldn't replace that with a can of protein drink and feel
like I had eaten much, but the 40 cal. from fat seems fine. In fact,
oatmeal is listed as low fat and a serving has 25 cal. from fat. The
thing is, you can consume a lot of fat in a hurry if you don't watch
carefully. dkw

On Feb 10, 4:44*am, "Jeri" <stargaze...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Fat in foods (with the exception of trans fat) is
> not the enemy. It's combining high fat and high carb that's unhealthy.

What's that, like for instance 60% fat and 60% carbs? Oops, that's
more than 100%.

I get it, you must be talking about (doh) overeating.

[snip]
>The
>thing is, you can consume a lot of fat in a hurry if you don't watch
>carefully. dkw

Actually, a high dietary fat intake is self regulating, and may even lead to
nausea, when done to excess. The big exception is when carbohydrates are
added to the fat. The opportunity to overeat then becomes huge.

Give a man a stack of steaks and he will stop eating rather quickly.

Give a man a stack of his favorite full sugar ice cream and he may eat the
whole stack over some hours.

On Feb 12, 11:31*am, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >The
> >thing is, you can consume a lot of fat in a hurry if you don't watch
> >carefully. dkw
>
> Actually, a high dietary fat intake is self regulating, and may even lead to
> nausea, when done to excess. * The big exception is when carbohydrates are
> added to the fat. *The opportunity to overeat then becomes huge.
>
> Give a man a stack of steaks and he will stop eating rather quickly.
>
> Give a man a stack of his favorite full sugar ice cream and he may eat the
> whole stack over some hours.

I don't think you know what a man is.