Benefits of a low-fat diet.

As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
here is what I ate today:

1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.

A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
fiber.

Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.

apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.

3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.

4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.

another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.

3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.

4 more toast same as before.

tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.


Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.

Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
more food for the calories. dkw

That's great. What was your highest weight ever and how much do you
weight now?

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12002@yahoo.com"
<dkw12002@yahoo.com> wrote:

>As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
>you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
>that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
>here is what I ate today:
>
>1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
>under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
>protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>
>A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
>oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
>fiber.
>
>Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
>apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>
>3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>
>4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
>cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>
>another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
>g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>
>3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
>nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>
>4 more toast same as before.
>
>tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
>
>Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
>protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>
>Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
>more food for the calories. dkw

A diet consisting entirely of whole grain cereal and canned grean
beans with phony margarine would certainly help me to lose weight.

Because I wouldn't be able to stomach eating that crap longer than a
day.

I prefer a more balanced approach to eating.

Jo Anne

On 16 avr, 20:41, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
> you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
> that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
> here is what I ate today:
>
> 1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
> under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
> protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>
> A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
> oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
> fiber.
>
> Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>
> 3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>
> 4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
> cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>
> another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
> g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>
> 3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
> nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>
> 4 more toast same as before.
>
> tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
> protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>
> Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
> more food for the calories. dkw

For how long have you been eating like this? Have had a complete
medical evaluation -blood pressure, colesterol, heart,...) lately? Do
you sometimes lack energy?

On Apr 16, 9:14*pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com"
<mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 avr, 20:41, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
> > you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
> > that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
> > here is what I ate today:
>
> > 1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
> > under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
> > protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>
> > A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
> > oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
> > fiber.
>
> > Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> > apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>
> > 3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>
> > 4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
> > cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>
> > another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
> > g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>
> > 3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
> > nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>
> > 4 more toast same as before.
>
> > tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> > Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
> > protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>
> > Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
> > more food for the calories. dkw
>
> For how long have you been eating like this? Have had a complete
> medical evaluation -blood *pressure, colesterol, heart,...) lately? Do
> you sometimes lack energy?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've been vegetarian and low-fat for over 4 years. My diet has changed
slightly, but not much over that period of time. It's one of the main
reasons I was able to lose 95 pounds and keep it off. It isn't for
everyone, vegetarian and high-fiber and very high carb, but it works
out very well for me. It is almost completely opposite the low-carb
approach. My diet would fit Dean Ornish's low-fat recommendations. dkw

On Apr 16, 8:37*pm, Jo Anne <joanne.sla...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
> >you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
> >that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
> >here is what I ate today:
>
> >1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
> >under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
> >protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>
> >A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
> >oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
> >fiber.
>
> >Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> >apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>
> >3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>
> >4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
> >cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>
> >another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
> >g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>
> >3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
> >nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>
> >4 more toast same as before.
>
> >tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> >Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
> >protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>
> >Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
> >more food for the calories. dkw
>
> A diet consisting entirely of whole grain cereal and canned grean
> beans with phony margarine would certainly help me to lose weight.
>
> Because I wouldn't be able to stomach eating that crap longer than a
> day.
>
> I prefer a more balanced approach to eating.
>
> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Since when is whole grain crap? The mock margarine, Splenda, diet pop,
I eat might quality, but definitely not whole grains. In fact, whole
grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. dkw

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12002@yahoo.com"
<dkw12002@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 16, 8:37*pm, Jo Anne <joanne.sla...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
>> >you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
>> >that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
>> >here is what I ate today:
>>
>> >1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
>> >under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
>> >protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>>
>> >A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
>> >oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
>> >fiber.
>>
>> >Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>>
>> >apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>>
>> >3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>>
>> >4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
>> >cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>>
>> >another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
>> >g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>>
>> >3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
>> >nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>>
>> >4 more toast same as before.
>>
>> >tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>>
>> >Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
>> >protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>>
>> >Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
>> >more food for the calories. dkw
>>
>> A diet consisting entirely of whole grain cereal and canned grean
>> beans with phony margarine would certainly help me to lose weight.
>>
>> Because I wouldn't be able to stomach eating that crap longer than a
>> day.
>>
>> I prefer a more balanced approach to eating.
>>
>> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Since when is whole grain crap? The mock margarine, Splenda, diet pop,
>I eat might quality, but definitely not whole grains. In fact, whole
>grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. dkw

It's crap because you eat the same thing. Every. Single. Day. I could
not deal with that. It looks like you ate 5 1/2 - 6 servings of cereal
there. I'd be gagging on that by lunchtime.

Jo Anne

"Jo Anne" <joanne.slaven@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:66of04h85e29l19c7b47de4h8v5jagu2l3@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12002@yahoo.com"
> <dkw12002@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 16, 8:37 pm, Jo Anne <joanne.sla...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
>>> >you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
>>> >that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
>>> >here is what I ate today:
>>>
>>> >1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
>>> >under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g.
>>> >protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>>>
>>> >A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
>>> >oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
>>> >fiber.
>>>
>>> >Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>>>
>>> >apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>>>
>>> >3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>>>
>>> >4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
>>> >cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>>>
>>> >another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
>>> >g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>>>
>>> >3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
>>> >nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>>>
>>> >4 more toast same as before.
>>>
>>> >tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>>>
>>> >Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
>>> >protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>>>
>>> >Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
>>> >more food for the calories. dkw
>>>
>>> A diet consisting entirely of whole grain cereal and canned grean
>>> beans with phony margarine would certainly help me to lose weight.
>>>
>>> Because I wouldn't be able to stomach eating that crap longer than a
>>> day.
>>>
>>> I prefer a more balanced approach to eating.
>>>
>>> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>Since when is whole grain crap? The mock margarine, Splenda, diet pop,
>>I eat might quality, but definitely not whole grains. In fact, whole
>>grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. dkw
>
> It's crap because you eat the same thing. Every. Single. Day. I could
> not deal with that. It looks like you ate 5 1/2 - 6 servings of cereal
> there. I'd be gagging on that by lunchtime.
>
> Jo Anne
>

Geez, I need some chicken & fish and sometimes some red meat. I can't
imagine living on cereal. Bleah. No way is that a balanced diet, not to
mention how BORING it is. Where's the veggies? I'd be a slug on so many
carbs and couldn't even begin to exercise or lift weights.

Melissa

I guess it works for you, but as a person who lost and who has kept
off 65 lb, I know very few people could follow your diet.

Its the diet of a person who lives alone and eats alone, essentially,
because its so very narrow in range and so rigidly repetitive.

It just doesn't allow for much variety, for the pure pleasure of a
range of interesting foods and alternatives within the same caloric
range, for accomodating other people and family and a social life in
any way. Maybe that's not fair, but I'm married, mom of three kids all
still at home, and I'm manager in a projects group of a large utility.
I'm cooking for a family, I'm out and about, I'm on the road. I could
no more be eating cereal all day long than fly to the moon - nor would
I want to.

I do eat very low fat, and I am a bulk eater. What meat I do eat is
very lean, and what grains I eat are whole grains. However, I have a
much wider range of things I eat and ways they are prepared than you
do - and I am cooking for and eating with other people and taking
pleasure in the shared experience. Its not just about fueling the body
alone for most of us.

M

On Apr 17, 5:16*pm, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> "Jo Anne" <joanne.sla...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:66of04h85e29l19c7b47de4h8v5jagu2l3@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
> > <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Apr 16, 8:37 pm, Jo Anne <joanne.sla...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
>
> >>> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> >As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that
> >>> >you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make
> >>> >that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example,
> >>> >here is what I ate today:
>
> >>> >1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly
> >>> >under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g..
> >>> >protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
>
> >>> >A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled
> >>> >oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30%
> >>> >fiber.
>
> >>> >Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> >>> >apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
>
> >>> >3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
>
> >>> >4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175
> >>> >cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
>
> >>> >another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6
> >>> >g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
>
> >>> >3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid
> >>> >nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
>
> >>> >4 more toast same as before.
>
> >>> >tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
>
> >>> >Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g.
> >>> >protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
>
> >>> >Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat
> >>> >more food for the calories. dkw
>
> >>> A diet consisting entirely of whole grain cereal and canned grean
> >>> beans with phony margarine would certainly help me to lose weight.
>
> >>> Because I wouldn't be able to stomach eating that crap longer than a
> >>> day.
>
> >>> I prefer a more balanced approach to eating.
>
> >>> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>Since when is whole grain crap? The mock margarine, Splenda, diet pop,
> >>I eat might quality, but definitely not whole grains. In fact, whole
> >>grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. dkw
>
> > It's crap because you eat the same thing. Every. Single. Day. I could
> > not deal with that. It looks like you ate 5 1/2 - 6 servings of cereal
> > there. I'd be gagging on that by lunchtime.
>
> > Jo Anne
>
> Geez, I need some chicken & fish and sometimes some red meat. I can't
> imagine living on cereal. Bleah. No way is that a balanced diet, not to
> mention how BORING it is. Where's the veggies? I'd be a slug on so many
> carbs and couldn't even begin to exercise or lift weights.
>
> Melissa- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

To each his or her own. I don't like meat. Veggies? 75 calorie is a
huge tossed salad (without dressing). A McDonalds side salad is
considered one serving and it has 15-20 cal. to put it into
perspective. Mine had spinach, broccoli, carrots, tomatoes, onions-
roughly 5 servings I'd guess. The Subway veggie is just that...a salad
sandwich with perhaps 2 servings of vegetables. Believe it or not,
lentils can be counted as 2 servings of vegetables as well according
to Uncle Sam. Blueberries are a fruit, but I just lump fruit and
veggies together since tomatoes are really a fruit and so are a lot of
other foods that people call vegetables. I am in great shape, work out
6X a week, have endless energy, and love what I eat. You are just
wrong. My diet is very balanced. You need to learn a little about
vegetarianism before you start ragging. dkw

On Apr 17, 6:12*pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
> I guess it works for you, but as a person who lost and who has kept
> off 65 lb, I know very few people could follow your diet.
>
> Its the diet of a person who lives alone and eats alone, essentially,
> because its so very narrow in range and so rigidly repetitive.
>
> It just doesn't allow for much variety, for the pure pleasure of a
> range of interesting foods and alternatives within the same caloric
> range, for accomodating other people and family and a social life in
> any way. Maybe that's not fair, but I'm married, mom of three kids all
> still at home, and I'm manager in a projects group of a large utility.
> I'm cooking for a family, I'm out and about, I'm on the road. I could
> no more be eating cereal all day long than fly to the moon - nor would
> I want to.
>
> I do eat very low fat, and I am a bulk eater. What meat I do eat is
> very lean, and what grains I eat are whole grains. However, I have a
> much wider range of things I eat and ways they are prepared than you
> do - and I am cooking for and eating with other people and taking
> pleasure in the shared experience. Its not just about fueling the body
> alone for most of us.
>
> M

Right. To begin with, there aren't other vegetarians that post here so
right off, there wouldn't be much agreement. My point was not to
convert anyone or say my diet is better, but to show that you can eat
more food on a low-fat diet. Not all vegetarians eat low-fat of
course. Someone struggling with their diet might just get an idea from
my list and say, hey, I could eat that and look how much food I'd get
to eat for so few calories...wishful thinking I guess, but it sure
works and worked for me. This group seems to be all the same stuck-in-
their-ways folks with nobody new, so there isn't much use presenting
ideas anyway. Think I'll find another forum. Obviously there are lots
of ways to lose wt. and keep it off. Food preference is learned, so
someone could change their eating if they wanted to for any reason and
even learn to like foods they currently do not like. I chose my diet
in large part because it is healthy. I had to learn to like some
foods...like tomatoes which I now love. I have never liked meat so I
never feel like I'm missing something. I do see amonst meat eaters a
perception, false but prevalent, that it takes red meat or any meat to
have energy and be healthy. I also don't eat the same thing everyday,
but I do eat a lot of the same things, especially the oats, but then I
love oats. dkw

About repetiveness... I would eat only salad if I could get rid of my
belly and still be healthy and full of energy. I know it's impossible,
but it's just to show you where my priorities are.

"dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Since when is whole grain crap?

Since archeologists started being able to tell the transition
from hunter-gatherer society to farming society by the
amount of bone illness in skeletons found.

> In fact, whole
> grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health.

Unfortunately those studies compare refined grains against
whole grains so there's the chicken-and-egg problem of a
hidden assumption. Show me a study that compares
cruciferous vegitables with whole grain and I'll start to think
differently.

And that does suggest something about a low fat strategy:

The more veggies that are used in place of grains the
better. Asparagus through zucchini they are all better
than corn or oats. Fruit, too. Apples through (some fruit
that starts with a z) they are all better than wheat or rice.

Even taking into account the studies that say whole grains
aren't a problem, a plate of brown rice with a spoon of
rutabagas or a plate of rutabagas with a spoon of brown
rice, which is better should not be difficult to figure out.

While there's no point in anyone doing a low fat diet
trying to go grain free, grains do displace veggies and
fruits for the same total calories.

Your diet works for you so you should stick to it. Low fat
is obvious and easy to figure out so folks wanting to diet
it's a natural starting point. Low fat works for a percentage
of people and anyone it works for should stick to it.

But as plenty of folks point out different folks need to do
different stuff.