Candy at the checkout

I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market. I
think this is no accident. I started a business of my own a year ago,
so I have had to learn a lot about marketing. I know everything a
business does is deliberate and calculated to increase sales. Does
anybody have the inside scoop on this? Can you verify this is a
deliberate tactic to get us to eat more? Also, the candy at the
checkout at Ralphs is heavily discounted almost all the time. Yeah,
they give you the candy bars cheap to get you to go buy a lot of other
fattening, unhealthy, more expensive munchies. It's like when drug
pushers give you the first packet of drugs for free. Lately they not
only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money. I think
they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
could get away with it.

GreatArtist wrote:
> I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
> in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
> you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market. I
> think this is no accident. I started a business of my own a year ago,
> so I have had to learn a lot about marketing. I know everything a
> business does is deliberate and calculated to increase sales. Does
> anybody have the inside scoop on this? Can you verify this is a
> deliberate tactic to get us to eat more? Also, the candy at the
> checkout at Ralphs is heavily discounted almost all the time. Yeah,
> they give you the candy bars cheap to get you to go buy a lot of other
> fattening, unhealthy, more expensive munchies. It's like when drug
> pushers give you the first packet of drugs for free. Lately they not
> only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
> the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
> Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
> if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money. I think
> they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
> could get away with it.

Of course there is a lot of thought that goes into how food is
displayed and where. Notice all the nutritious cereal like oats,
shredded wheat, and puffed wheat (all whole grain cereals) are either
at the very top, or very bottom. What is within the easiest reach,
including the reach of children are the sugary cereals. Same with
checkout aisles. All those items are lower priced items including gum,
candy, and soda, to get you to buy more.

Stores, on the other hand are not out to ruin your health, but only to
make as much money as they can selling legal products. You have to
decide what you should and shouldn't eat. I wouldn't eat their candy if
they were giving it away, because I know it is not good food. They
would of course sell marijuana if it were legal. They sell beer and
wine and that causes many deaths each year from drunk driving and
health problems. Then there are cigarettes. Really, though, they aren't
out to kill you; just to sell you their legal products. dkw

GreatArtist wrote:
> I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
> in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
> you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market.

You seriously just figured this out? YES! And most of the products
marketed as "food" are not appropriate fuel for human bodies. They are,
in fact, specifically designed to provide entertainment as opposed to
nourishment.

By the way, many options for sex are not emotionally nourishing, either.
And quite a lot of the drugs available for sale would be poor choices
for your life. And you don't really need to buy a big screen TV either,
in case no one has mentioned these things to you.

> Lately they not
> only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
> the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
> Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
> if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money.

Oh, grow up. It doesn't ruin your health to buy a single candy bar at
an inexpensive price. Personally, I haven't bought even ONE candy bar
all year (aside from some fun packs of candy at Halloween.) But I do
buy dark chocolate in a family-sized package that I use for "medicinal
purposes" and I always appreciate when it's on sale.

You are responsible for what you choose to put in your mouth. Everyone
else is trying to make a buck off of you.

Say that again out loud. YOU are responsible for YOU. THEY are
responsible for THEM. Do not expect anyone else to have your welfare at
heart. YOU have your welfare at heart and that's supposed to be enough.
Those stores are not forcing you to buy crappy foods, they're
assuming you won't buy them if you don't choose to entertain yourself
that way.

By the way, quite a lot of people DO want to entertain themselves with
crappy food. It's not the store's job to teach them better values.

> I think
> they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
> could get away with it.

You're absolutely right, but what are you, twelve? You sound like it's
just dawning on you who is responsible for your own behavior.

It's YOU.

Dally
244/170/155

"Dally" <Dally@whoever.com> wrote in message
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> GreatArtist wrote:
>> I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
>> in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
>> you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market.
>
> You seriously just figured this out? YES! And most of the products
> marketed as "food" are not appropriate fuel for human bodies. They are,
> in fact, specifically designed to provide entertainment as opposed to
> nourishment.
>
> By the way, many options for sex are not emotionally nourishing, either.
> And quite a lot of the drugs available for sale would be poor choices for
> your life. And you don't really need to buy a big screen TV either, in
> case no one has mentioned these things to you.
>
>> Lately they not
>> only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
>> the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
>> Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
>> if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money.
>
> Oh, grow up. It doesn't ruin your health to buy a single candy bar at an
> inexpensive price. Personally, I haven't bought even ONE candy bar all
> year (aside from some fun packs of candy at Halloween.) But I do buy dark
> chocolate in a family-sized package that I use for "medicinal purposes"
> and I always appreciate when it's on sale.
>
> You are responsible for what you choose to put in your mouth. Everyone
> else is trying to make a buck off of you.
>
> Say that again out loud. YOU are responsible for YOU. THEY are
> responsible for THEM. Do not expect anyone else to have your welfare at
> heart. YOU have your welfare at heart and that's supposed to be enough.
> Those stores are not forcing you to buy crappy foods, they're assuming you
> won't buy them if you don't choose to entertain yourself that way.
>
> By the way, quite a lot of people DO want to entertain themselves with
> crappy food. It's not the store's job to teach them better values.
>
>> I think
>> they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
>> could get away with it.
>
> You're absolutely right, but what are you, twelve? You sound like it's
> just dawning on you who is responsible for your own behavior.
>
> It's YOU.
>
> Dally
> 244/170/155

What is even more worrying is that she is going into business & she has only
just realised this!!

There is another reason for the sweets being at the checkout...... it stops
shop lifting small items ;-)

--
Gary

228/221/175

It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle thing

"Dally" <Dally@whoever.com> wrote in message
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>
> Oh, grow up. It doesn't ruin your health to buy a single candy bar at an
> inexpensive price. Personally, I haven't bought even ONE candy bar all
> year (aside from some fun packs of candy at Halloween.) But I do buy dark
> chocolate in a family-sized package that I use for "medicinal purposes"
> and I always appreciate when it's on sale.

How do you store your chocolate? I've been breaking it up into pieces and
storing it in the fridge. Our latest favorite is the Endangered Species
extremely dark chocolate (88% cacao). 1 bar lasts a week with both of us
eating it. DH isn't (wasn't) a chocolate person until he tried the dark
stuff.
--
the volleyballchick

GreatArtist wrote:
>
> I know everything a
> business does is deliberate and calculated to increase sales.

Just calculated to increase sales.

> Can you verify this is a
> deliberate tactic to get us to eat more?

Not in the sense you mean. Stores try various stuff up front and
track the sales trends. If something increaes sale they have
less interest in the biochemistry of it than the folks on ASD do.

*big grin* Good post Dally!
Will~

"Dally" <Dally@whoever.com> wrote in message
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> GreatArtist wrote:
>> I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
>> in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
>> you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market.
>
> You seriously just figured this out? YES! And most of the products
> marketed as "food" are not appropriate fuel for human bodies. They are,
> in fact, specifically designed to provide entertainment as opposed to
> nourishment.
>
> By the way, many options for sex are not emotionally nourishing, either.
> And quite a lot of the drugs available for sale would be poor choices for
> your life. And you don't really need to buy a big screen TV either, in
> case no one has mentioned these things to you.
>
>> Lately they not
>> only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
>> the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
>> Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
>> if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money.
>
> Oh, grow up. It doesn't ruin your health to buy a single candy bar at an
> inexpensive price. Personally, I haven't bought even ONE candy bar all
> year (aside from some fun packs of candy at Halloween.) But I do buy dark
> chocolate in a family-sized package that I use for "medicinal purposes"
> and I always appreciate when it's on sale.
>
> You are responsible for what you choose to put in your mouth. Everyone
> else is trying to make a buck off of you.
>
> Say that again out loud. YOU are responsible for YOU. THEY are
> responsible for THEM. Do not expect anyone else to have your welfare at
> heart. YOU have your welfare at heart and that's supposed to be enough.
> Those stores are not forcing you to buy crappy foods, they're assuming you
> won't buy them if you don't choose to entertain yourself that way.
>
> By the way, quite a lot of people DO want to entertain themselves with
> crappy food. It's not the store's job to teach them better values.
>
>> I think
>> they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
>> could get away with it.
>
> You're absolutely right, but what are you, twelve? You sound like it's
> just dawning on you who is responsible for your own behavior.
>
> It's YOU.
>
> Dally
> 244/170/155

GreatArtist wrote:
> I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
> in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
> you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market. I
> think this is no accident. I started a business of my own a year ago,
> so I have had to learn a lot about marketing. I know everything a
> business does is deliberate and calculated to increase sales.

Ding ding ding ding ding! Tell him what he won, Johnny!

> Does
> anybody have the inside scoop on this? Can you verify this is a
> deliberate tactic to get us to eat more? Also, the candy at the
> checkout at Ralphs is heavily discounted almost all the time. Yeah,
> they give you the candy bars cheap to get you to go buy a lot of other
> fattening, unhealthy, more expensive munchies.

The candy is in the check-out lanes to promote impulse purchasing. If
you simply walk through the candy isle you're less likely to purchase
some than you are if you're standing next to them for three minutes
while you wait to check out. It's quite unlikely that they'd expect you
to leave the line to go get more expensive munchies.

> It's like when drug
> pushers give you the first packet of drugs for free. Lately they not
> only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
> the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
> Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
> if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money. I think
> they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
> could get away with it.

And why should they care about your health? Are they your mother? The
liquor store sure doesn't care about your health do they? Neither does
the smoke shop, or fast food chains. And of course they'd sell
marijuana if it were legal. Can you imagine the money they'd make? Are
you so irresponsible that you can't accept the blame when you purchase
something unhealthy?

--
Jerry

I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food is not
an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible for what goes
into our bodies, period.

If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like they do
at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream, hot fudge sauce,
etc.

"GreatArtist" <wizzzer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have just come to the conclusion that they put candy at the checkout
> in the supermarket to get you to eat more candy, which in turn makes
> you to eat more food overall, so you buy more food at the market. I
> think this is no accident. I started a business of my own a year ago,
> so I have had to learn a lot about marketing. I know everything a
> business does is deliberate and calculated to increase sales. Does
> anybody have the inside scoop on this? Can you verify this is a
> deliberate tactic to get us to eat more? Also, the candy at the
> checkout at Ralphs is heavily discounted almost all the time. Yeah,
> they give you the candy bars cheap to get you to go buy a lot of other
> fattening, unhealthy, more expensive munchies. It's like when drug
> pushers give you the first packet of drugs for free. Lately they not
> only have the regular sized candy bars at the checkout, they also have
> the really huge ones for only $1 there. They're normally close to $2.
> Accident? I DON'T THINK SO. I think they're bastards. They don't care
> if they ruin people's health as long as they make more money. I think
> they would sell you marijuana to get you to eat more food, if they
> could get away with it.
>

dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Of course there is a lot of thought that goes into how food is
> displayed and where. Notice all the nutritious cereal like oats,
> shredded wheat, and puffed wheat (all whole grain cereals) are either
> at the very top, or very bottom. What is within the easiest reach,
> including the reach of children are the sugary cereals. Same with
> checkout aisles. All those items are lower priced items including gum,
> candy, and soda, to get you to buy more.
>
Stores like Trader Joes carry more healthy fare and don't hide it. Same
thing with Whole Foods and local organic chains.

determined wrote:
> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>
> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>

I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for them.

"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
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> determined wrote:
>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>
>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>
>
> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
> themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for
> them.
>

For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store without
seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a mess, while
parents just simply ignore them...

Responsability is optional it seems..

Will~

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> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
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>> determined wrote:
>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>
>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>
>>
>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
>> themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for
>> them.
>>
>
> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store without
> seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a mess, while
> parents just simply ignore them...
>
> Responsability is optional it seems..

Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind, or
they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class who kept
ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just needs more
attention." Geesh!

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>> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
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>>> determined wrote:
>>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>>
>>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
>>> themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for
>>> them.
>>>
>>
>> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store without
>> seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a mess, while
>> parents just simply ignore them...
>>
>> Responsability is optional it seems..
>
> Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind, or
> they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class who
> kept ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just needs
> more attention." Geesh!

Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students' poor
behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent that I didn't
make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her son. This is also a
MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.
--
the volleyballchick

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>> "Willow Herself" <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote in
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>>> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
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>>>> determined wrote:
>>>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>>>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
>>>> themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store without
>>> seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a mess, while
>>> parents just simply ignore them...
>>>
>>> Responsability is optional it seems..
>>
>> Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind, or
>> they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class who
>> kept ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just needs
>> more attention." Geesh!
>
> Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
> example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students'
> poor behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent that I
> didn't make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her son. This
> is also a MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.
> --
> the volleyballchick
>
I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine, talking to
his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and that
he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...

Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool... 3-
Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???

Will~

Willow Herself wrote:
> >
> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine, talking to
> his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and that
> he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
>
> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool... 3-
> Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
>
> Will~

Did you have the parent arrested? Time for her to go to jail.

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> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine, talking
> to his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and
> that he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
>
> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool... 3-
> Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
>
> Will~

#4 - that it's easier to nip his stash than steal his pills.
--
the volleyballchick

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> Willow Herself wrote:
>> >
>> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine, talking
>> to
>> his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and
>> that
>> he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
>>
>> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool...
>> 3-
>> Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
>> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
>>
>> Will~
>
> Did you have the parent arrested? Time for her to go to jail.
>
We contacted social service rather than the cops.. I just felt so bad for
that kid... what kind of life will you have with parents like that?
Will~

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>
>> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine, talking
>> to his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and
>> that he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
>>
>> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool...
>> 3- Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
>> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
>>
>> Will~
>
> #4 - that it's easier to nip his stash than steal his pills.
> --
> the volleyballchick
>
Mom wasn't a user... Dad was.. but not living with them..

Weird family really..
Will~

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> "SFrunner" <bastmag666@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Willow Herself wrote:
> >> >
> >> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine, talking
> >> to
> >> his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and
> >> that
> >> he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
> >>
> >> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool...
> >> 3-
> >> Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
> >> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
> >>
> >> Will~
> >
> > Did you have the parent arrested? Time for her to go to jail.
> >
> We contacted social service rather than the cops.. I just felt so bad for
> that kid... what kind of life will you have with parents like that?
> Will~


Yeah, no kidding....

In article <51c4qkF1jti25U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
> example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students' poor
> behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent that I didn't
> make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her son. This is also a
> MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.

Funny. I'm always quick to tell my girl's teachers to keep the hammer
down! Keep 'em busy or they tend towards sloth. I think educators have
it tough enough without parents interfering. I would never dream of
interfering with their processes or styles, unless it was obvious that
the girls weren't gaining anything.

Amy

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>> Willow Herself wrote:
>>> >
>>> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine,
>>> talking to
>>> his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and
>>> that
>>> he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
>>>
>>> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool...
>>> 3-
>>> Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
>>> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
>>>
>>> Will~
>>
>> Did you have the parent arrested? Time for her to go to jail.
>>
> We contacted social service rather than the cops.. I just felt so bad for
> that kid... what kind of life will you have with parents like that?
> Will~

Social services in most areas totally SUCKS.

"determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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> "Willow Herself" <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote in
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>>
>> "SFrunner" <bastmag666@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1169221745.847504.309890@38g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>> Willow Herself wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> I had a student (17 years old) who came in class high on cocaine,
>>>> talking to
>>>> his mom, she explained that he was a diagnosed hyperactive and ADD and
>>>> that
>>>> he liked cocaine better as a treatment than Ritalin...
>>>>
>>>> Huh.. lady... 1- it's an illegal drug... and 2- this is a highschool...
>>>> 3-
>>>> Any kind of "medication" should be regulated by a doctor... obviously
>>>> cocaine isn't.. 4- what the h.... are you thinking about???
>>>>
>>>> Will~
>>>
>>> Did you have the parent arrested? Time for her to go to jail.
>>>
>> We contacted social service rather than the cops.. I just felt so bad for
>> that kid... what kind of life will you have with parents like that?
>> Will~
>
> Social services in most areas totally SUCKS.
>
It was in Quebec, not in the States... nothing perfect, but it's certainly
better than the states, we actually put money in it..
Will~

"Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "teachrmama" <teachrmama@iwon.com> wrote in message
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>> "Willow Herself" <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote in
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>>>
>>> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
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>>>> determined wrote:
>>>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>>>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
>>>> themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store without
>>> seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a mess, while
>>> parents just simply ignore them...
>>>
>>> Responsability is optional it seems..
>>
>> Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind, or
>> they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class who
>> kept ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just needs
>> more attention." Geesh!
>
> Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
> example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students'
> poor behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent that I
> didn't make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her son. This
> is also a MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.

I know--it's gotten to be quite disturbing. I can't imagine my parents ever
making such excuses about me or my siblings. We should write a book!

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> "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "teachrmama" <teachrmama@iwon.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Willow Herself" <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote in
>>> message news:hL4sh.50472$wc5.34152@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
>>>>
>>>> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:raYrh.12939$My1.7363@trndny03...
>>>>> determined wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>>>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>>>>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>>>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>>>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't discipline
>>>>> themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure in life for
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store
>>>> without seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a mess,
>>>> while parents just simply ignore them...
>>>>
>>>> Responsability is optional it seems..
>>>
>>> Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind,
>>> or they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class
>>> who kept ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just
>>> needs more attention." Geesh!
>>
>> Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
>> example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students'
>> poor behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent that
>> I didn't make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her son.
>> This is also a MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.
>
> I know--it's gotten to be quite disturbing. I can't imagine my parents
> ever making such excuses about me or my siblings. We should write a book!

Well at least we're doing the best we can in the circumstances. I'm
preparing to go back to work right when we're going to have parent
confernces and there are going to be lots of upset parents to deal with.
Seems that some of my students figured that since they had a sub they didn't
need to do any work - for 4 weeks. I've been going through the stacks of
assignments and there are a few kids for whom I can find *no* work
whatsoever. I'll bet their solitaire games have improved though.
--
the volleyballchick

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> "teachrmama" <teachrmama@iwon.com> wrote in message
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>> "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "teachrmama" <teachrmama@iwon.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Willow Herself" <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote in
>>>> message news:hL4sh.50472$wc5.34152@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:raYrh.12939$My1.7363@trndny03...
>>>>>> determined wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>>>>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are responsible
>>>>>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>>>>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>>>>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't
>>>>>> discipline themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure
>>>>>> in life for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store
>>>>> without seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a
>>>>> mess, while parents just simply ignore them...
>>>>>
>>>>> Responsability is optional it seems..
>>>>
>>>> Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind,
>>>> or they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class
>>>> who kept ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just
>>>> needs more attention." Geesh!
>>>
>>> Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
>>> example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students'
>>> poor behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent that
>>> I didn't make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her son.
>>> This is also a MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.
>>
>> I know--it's gotten to be quite disturbing. I can't imagine my parents
>> ever making such excuses about me or my siblings. We should write a
>> book!
>
> Well at least we're doing the best we can in the circumstances. I'm
> preparing to go back to work right when we're going to have parent
> confernces and there are going to be lots of upset parents to deal with.
> Seems that some of my students figured that since they had a sub they
> didn't need to do any work - for 4 weeks. I've been going through the
> stacks of assignments and there are a few kids for whom I can find *no*
> work whatsoever. I'll bet their solitaire games have improved though.

<chuckle> Undoubtedly! I imagine they have also bebun polishing up their
excuses as to how terrible the sub was, how they "didn't understand," how
they turned it in, but it must have gotten lost, etc. I wish you lots of
extra patience, and exactly the right words to say.

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>>> "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "teachrmama" <teachrmama@iwon.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Willow Herself" <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote in
>>>>> message news:hL4sh.50472$wc5.34152@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:raYrh.12939$My1.7363@trndny03...
>>>>>>> determined wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't think they're bastards. I think they are very smart. Food
>>>>>>>> is not an addiction like cocaine, imo. I believe we are
>>>>>>>> responsible
>>>>>>>> for what goes into our bodies, period.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I ran a store, I'd have free samples of foods all the time, like
>>>>>>>> they do at Costco. Especially things like Ben & Jerry's ice cream,
>>>>>>>> hot fudge sauce, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never partake of store samples. I wonder why people can't
>>>>>>> discipline themselves. I guess they figure food is the only pleasure
>>>>>>> in life for them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the same reason that you can't walk into a big surface store
>>>>>> without seeing kids running around, screaming, generally making a
>>>>>> mess, while parents just simply ignore them...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Responsability is optional it seems..
>>>>>
>>>>> Or fobbed off on someone else. "The people who work there don't mind,
>>>>> or they'd have someone tell the kids to stop." Or the kid in my class
>>>>> who kept ripping pages out of books. Mom's response? "Maybe he just
>>>>> needs more attention." Geesh!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, don't get me started! I'm sure you and I could give example after
>>>> example of how we're the ones completely responsible for our students'
>>>> poor behavior, lack of responsibility, etc. I was told by a parent
>>>> that I didn't make the assigments enough like a "game" to interest her
>>>> son. This is also a MIDDLE SCHOOL student we're talking about.
>>>
>>> I know--it's gotten to be quite disturbing. I can't imagine my parents
>>> ever making such excuses about me or my siblings. We should write a
>>> book!
>>
>> Well at least we're doing the best we can in the circumstances. I'm
>> preparing to go back to work right when we're going to have parent
>> confernces and there are going to be lots of upset parents to deal with.
>> Seems that some of my students figured that since they had a sub they
>> didn't need to do any work - for 4 weeks. I've been going through the
>> stacks of assignments and there are a few kids for whom I can find *no*
>> work whatsoever. I'll bet their solitaire games have improved though.
>
> <chuckle> Undoubtedly! I imagine they have also bebun polishing up their
> excuses as to how terrible the sub was, how they "didn't understand," how
> they turned it in, but it must have gotten lost, etc. I wish you lots of
> extra patience, and exactly the right words to say.

Thanks, fortunately I've BTDT. The work they were meant to do was stuff
they've done in the past and is recorded by the computer (keyboarding
lessons) - at least for the ones in question. The older kids have no
excuses because I gave the presentations myself and they all have the
ability to email me with questions and problems and were given numerous
extensions on due dates. I know how to CMA.
--
the volleyballchick