Food & Exercise -- 12/31/2006

Last night we went to a lovely New Year's Eve dinner dance at a
country restaurant that we love. Because it's about 40 miles away and
we didn't want to drive home that late -- especially with people on
the road who'd been drinking a lot -- we got a motel room in that town
and stayed overnight. The dinner was great -- and not too fattening.
This is a restaurant that specializes in very small,
exquisitely-prepared dishes. We had six courses but each was only 3
or 4 bites -- very satisfying but not enough to leave us feeling
stuffed.

Food:

* 11:15 (home): 2 poached eggs on 1 slice whole wheat toast w/ 3
slices melted f/f cheese & 10g grated asiago {Wasn't hungry when I got
up, after the big meal Saturday night, so this was a very late
breakfast.}
* 1:30 (home): energy bar
* 4:45 (from the 7-11 in the town where we stayed -- should have eaten
something before we left the house): small hot dog (with bun) w/ a
tablespoon of chili on top
* 9:00 -- 12:00: 13 oz. wine; 2 small pieces of whole grain bread w/ 1
pat butter: "Pan Seared Sea Scallop on an Orange, Granny Smith Apple
and Horseradish Salad drizzled with a Beet and Cider Reduction" (a
single scallop, tiny garnish of salad); "Crispy Panamanian Snapper on
a Cauliflower Puree with a Caramelized Lemon Marmalade and Lobster Roe
Butter Sauce" (~2 oz. snapper, small amount of rich sauce); "Pan
Roased Maine Lobster and Local Shitake Casserole with a Sweet Onion
Puree and Oven Roasted Tomatoes" (cupcake-sized ramekin of a casserole
w/ about 1 oz. of lobster, tomato, shitakes, creamy sauce); "A Duet of
Local Lamb -- Cinnamon and Chili Braised Lamb Cheek and Grilled Loin
of Lamb with Sweet Corn Jonny Cake, Fire Roased Vegetable Relish and
finished with an Arugula and Bacon Sauce" (~2 oz. lamb, 2" diameter
jonnycake, a bit of relish and sauce); "Candied Almond Encrused Brie
with a Honey dipped Greek Spiced Cookie" (1/2 oz. brie w/ finger-sized
biscotti-like cookie); "Caramelized Chardonnay Poached Pear and
Chocolate filled Crepe on a Sweet Orange Chutney and drizzled with a
Vanilla and Chamomile Tea Sauce" (very small crepe with just a little
filling -- but very yummy :-) )

Totals: 1782 calories (251 from alcohol), 66g fat (33%), 132g carbs
(30%), 103g protein (23%)

Exercise:

12:00 -- 3 mile run







Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
news:u9uip2h5768ovsqul5h7sd2qmjc9ebk0kh@4ax.com...
> Last night we went to a lovely New Year's Eve dinner dance at a
> country restaurant that we love. Because it's about 40 miles away and
> we didn't want to drive home that late -- especially with people on
> the road who'd been drinking a lot -- we got a motel room in that town
> and stayed overnight. The dinner was great -- and not too fattening.
> This is a restaurant that specializes in very small,
> exquisitely-prepared dishes. We had six courses but each was only 3
> or 4 bites -- very satisfying but not enough to leave us feeling
> stuffed.
>
> Food:
>
> * 11:15 (home): 2 poached eggs on 1 slice whole wheat toast w/ 3
> slices melted f/f cheese & 10g grated asiago {Wasn't hungry when I got
> up, after the big meal Saturday night, so this was a very late
> breakfast.}
> * 1:30 (home): energy bar
> * 4:45 (from the 7-11 in the town where we stayed -- should have eaten
> something before we left the house): small hot dog (with bun) w/ a
> tablespoon of chili on top
> * 9:00 -- 12:00: 13 oz. wine; 2 small pieces of whole grain bread w/ 1
> pat butter: "Pan Seared Sea Scallop on an Orange, Granny Smith Apple
> and Horseradish Salad drizzled with a Beet and Cider Reduction" (a
> single scallop, tiny garnish of salad); "Crispy Panamanian Snapper on
> a Cauliflower Puree with a Caramelized Lemon Marmalade and Lobster Roe
> Butter Sauce" (~2 oz. snapper, small amount of rich sauce); "Pan
> Roased Maine Lobster and Local Shitake Casserole with a Sweet Onion
> Puree and Oven Roasted Tomatoes" (cupcake-sized ramekin of a casserole
> w/ about 1 oz. of lobster, tomato, shitakes, creamy sauce); "A Duet of
> Local Lamb -- Cinnamon and Chili Braised Lamb Cheek and Grilled Loin
> of Lamb with Sweet Corn Jonny Cake, Fire Roased Vegetable Relish and
> finished with an Arugula and Bacon Sauce" (~2 oz. lamb, 2" diameter
> jonnycake, a bit of relish and sauce); "Candied Almond Encrused Brie
> with a Honey dipped Greek Spiced Cookie" (1/2 oz. brie w/ finger-sized
> biscotti-like cookie); "Caramelized Chardonnay Poached Pear and
> Chocolate filled Crepe on a Sweet Orange Chutney and drizzled with a
> Vanilla and Chamomile Tea Sauce" (very small crepe with just a little
> filling -- but very yummy :-) )
>
> Totals: 1782 calories (251 from alcohol), 66g fat (33%), 132g carbs
> (30%), 103g protein (23%)
>
> Exercise:
>
> 12:00 -- 3 mile run
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004


Chris
How many minutes does it take you to run a mile?
Your regiment is fantastic!

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:54:43 -0500, "sirch" <sirch@sover.net> wrote:

>How many minutes does it take you to run a mile?

I don't time myself when I run outdoors, but I'm not very fast. (I'm a
58 year old woman with short legs :-).) When I run on the treadmill
in the gym I generally vary my speed between 5 & 6 miles per hour --
so a 10-12 minute mile. That's probably about what i do outdoors as
well. I'm not really making an effort to try to go faster -- just
trying to keep at it and do enough to feel like I'm getting a good
cardio workout.

>Your regiment is fantastic!

Well, thanks :-). Not perfect -- skipped the gym today as we didn't
get in home in time to make my usual schedule -- but I try to exercise
pretty regularly.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
news:b25jp2t3236jmop5jj30u28t2b1q7omppc@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:54:43 -0500, "sirch" <sirch@sover.net> wrote:
>
>>How many minutes does it take you to run a mile?
>
> I don't time myself when I run outdoors, but I'm not very fast. (I'm a
> 58 year old woman with short legs :-).) When I run on the treadmill
> in the gym I generally vary my speed between 5 & 6 miles per hour --
> so a 10-12 minute mile. That's probably about what i do outdoors as
> well. I'm not really making an effort to try to go faster -- just
> trying to keep at it and do enough to feel like I'm getting a good
> cardio workout.
>
>>Your regiment is fantastic!
>
> Well, thanks :-). Not perfect -- skipped the gym today as we didn't
> get in home in time to make my usual schedule -- but I try to exercise
> pretty regularly.
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

I do want to know how you calculate calories to 4 significant figures,
especially for a long menu of exotic restaurant food.

:-) :-)

del

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
news:b25jp2t3236jmop5jj30u28t2b1q7omppc@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:54:43 -0500, "sirch" <sirch@sover.net> wrote:
>
>>How many minutes does it take you to run a mile?
>
> I don't time myself when I run outdoors, but I'm not very fast. (I'm a
> 58 year old woman with short legs :-).) When I run on the treadmill
> in the gym I generally vary my speed between 5 & 6 miles per hour --
> so a 10-12 minute mile. That's probably about what i do outdoors as
> well. I'm not really making an effort to try to go faster -- just
> trying to keep at it and do enough to feel like I'm getting a good
> cardio workout.
>
>>Your regiment is fantastic!
>
> Well, thanks :-). Not perfect -- skipped the gym today as we didn't
> get in home in time to make my usual schedule -- but I try to exercise
> pretty regularly.
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

Very Good!

I don't run, but walk, do calisthenics, and light weight lifting.
What a change a little exercise does for you.

Nothing for me beats playing my drums for burning the most cals!!

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:03:09 -0600, "Del Cecchi"
<delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
>news:b25jp2t3236jmop5jj30u28t2b1q7omppc@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:54:43 -0500, "sirch" <sirch@sover.net> wrote:
>>
>>>How many minutes does it take you to run a mile?
>>
>> I don't time myself when I run outdoors, but I'm not very fast. (I'm a
>> 58 year old woman with short legs :-).) When I run on the treadmill
>> in the gym I generally vary my speed between 5 & 6 miles per hour --
>> so a 10-12 minute mile. That's probably about what i do outdoors as
>> well. I'm not really making an effort to try to go faster -- just
>> trying to keep at it and do enough to feel like I'm getting a good
>> cardio workout.
>>
>>>Your regiment is fantastic!
>>
>> Well, thanks :-). Not perfect -- skipped the gym today as we didn't
>> get in home in time to make my usual schedule -- but I try to exercise
>> pretty regularly.
>>
>> Chris
>> 262/130s/130s
>> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
>
>I do want to know how you calculate calories to 4 significant figures,
>especially for a long menu of exotic restaurant food.
>
>:-) :-)
>
>del
>

Well, since I put this stuff in a spreadsheet I have to put in
something, so I just guess a lot. And the spreadsheet is set up so I
enter a type and quantity of food and it figures out the calories and
nutrients, so guesses at what goes in still come out with data -- just
not as accurate.

For dishes like these I'll put in the more calorie-dense elements
like the meat or fish, probably just ignore the veggies unless there's
a significant quantity -- I'll ignore a teaspoon of relish or a couple
asparagus spears or whatever, but would certainly count something like
potatoes -- and then add in some butter or olive oil based on how rich
it tastes :-). I'm not too worried about how accurate it is. At home
I measure and weigh stuff, but for restaurant meals I just try to
approximate.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 20:02:51 -0500, "sirch" <sirch@sover.net> wrote:

>I don't run, but walk, do calisthenics, and light weight lifting.
>What a change a little exercise does for you.

I used to walk with a colleague when I was working, but now I don't
really do that, except for hiking sometimes. I do lift 3 times a week
though (heavy), and also do yoga 3 times a week.
>
>Nothing for me beats playing my drums for burning the most cals!!

This sounds very cool. I've never even tried playing drums, but I bet
it's a lot of fun. Do you play with a group?

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

I've noticed that you often eat an energy bar. Is there a particular
brand/type you prefer?

I've tried comparing the various types; but, there's just so darn many
lately, I get confused over the calculations.

Other than protein and sugar content, is there something else I should
be looking for? Thanks. Sue

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:22:56 -0800, chiefnine@webtv.net (William
Loranger) wrote:

>I've noticed that you often eat an energy bar. Is there a particular
>brand/type you prefer?
>
>I've tried comparing the various types; but, there's just so darn many
>lately, I get confused over the calculations.
>
>Other than protein and sugar content, is there something else I should
>be looking for? Thanks. Sue


I generally eat bars from my gym company, Life Time Fitness:
http://shop.lifetimefitness.com/item...fm?ITEM_ID=227. In
particular, I eat the Peanut Butter Crunch flavor. I get boxes of
these by mail order, which means I get a good price and always have a
supply on hand. They have 180 calories, 5g fat, 23g carbs (17g
sugar), 12g protein. When shopping for bars -- when I'm traveling I
buy other brands -- I look for calories in that range and a good
amount of protein -- don't worry much about other stuff. Sometimes if
it's replacing a meal I'll eat a higher-calorie, higher-protein bar.
I'd refer to that in my log as a "protein bar" rather than an "energy
bar".


Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"William Loranger" <chiefnine@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19519-459A86E0-1006@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
> I've noticed that you often eat an energy bar. Is there a particular
> brand/type you prefer?
>
> I've tried comparing the various types; but, there's just so darn many
> lately, I get confused over the calculations.
>
> Other than protein and sugar content, is there something else I should
> be looking for? Thanks. Sue

I like to look for fiber also though I don't do energy bars as much anymore.
I still rely on protein shakes for snacks though they don't hold up in the
glove compartment for those "emergencies."
--
the volleyballchick

William Loranger wrote:
> I've noticed that you often eat an energy bar. Is there a particular
> brand/type you prefer?
>
> I've tried comparing the various types; but, there's just so darn many
> lately, I get confused over the calculations.
>
> Other than protein and sugar content, is there something else I should
> be looking for? Thanks. Sue


It depends on what you want them for. I don't eat them as a meal
replacement much, except when I'm stuck and can't get anything else.
Then I like the Zone bars.

I like the ones with less protein and more carbs, as I'll eat half of
one about 30 to 60 minutes before a run and am trying to train myself
to eat while I run, not easy, but necessary on longer runs. So far, I
can get down Gu, but not more whole foods yet. For this I like Cliff
bars or Tiger's Milk.

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:47:13 -0600, "Nunya B."
<nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"William Loranger" <chiefnine@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:19519-459A86E0-1006@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
>> I've noticed that you often eat an energy bar. Is there a particular
>> brand/type you prefer?
>>
>> I've tried comparing the various types; but, there's just so darn many
>> lately, I get confused over the calculations.
>>
>> Other than protein and sugar content, is there something else I should
>> be looking for? Thanks. Sue
>
>I like to look for fiber also though I don't do energy bars as much anymore.
>I still rely on protein shakes for snacks though they don't hold up in the
>glove compartment for those "emergencies."

I just looked at the wrapper -- these have 2g of fiber -- not a lot
but okay. Sometimes if I just want some quick energy before a workout
I'll eat an All Bran bar -- insignificant protein, so digests more
quickly -- but also a good fiber source.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:47:13 -0600, "Nunya B."
> <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"William Loranger" <chiefnine@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>news:19519-459A86E0-1006@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
>>> I've noticed that you often eat an energy bar. Is there a particular
>>> brand/type you prefer?
>>>
>>> I've tried comparing the various types; but, there's just so darn many
>>> lately, I get confused over the calculations.
>>>
>>> Other than protein and sugar content, is there something else I should
>>> be looking for? Thanks. Sue
>>
>>I like to look for fiber also though I don't do energy bars as much
>>anymore.
>>I still rely on protein shakes for snacks though they don't hold up in the
>>glove compartment for those "emergencies."
>
> I just looked at the wrapper -- these have 2g of fiber -- not a lot
> but okay. Sometimes if I just want some quick energy before a workout
> I'll eat an All Bran bar -- insignificant protein, so digests more
> quickly -- but also a good fiber source.
>

That it has some fiber would be good enough for me. There are plenty of bars
out there with <1g fiber. It may only be me, but I tend to be more satisfied
with a combo of protein and fiber moreso than either one alone.
--
the volleyballchick

Chris Braun wrote:
> Last night we went to a lovely New Year's Eve dinner dance at a
> country restaurant that we love. Because it's about 40 miles away and
> we didn't want to drive home that late -- especially with people on
> the road who'd been drinking a lot -- we got a motel room in that town
> and stayed overnight. The dinner was great -- and not too fattening.
> This is a restaurant that specializes in very small,
> exquisitely-prepared dishes. We had six courses but each was only 3
> or 4 bites -- very satisfying but not enough to leave us feeling
> stuffed.
<snip>
> * 9:00 -- 12:00: 13 oz. wine; 2 small pieces of whole grain bread w/ 1
> pat butter: "Pan Seared Sea Scallop on an Orange, Granny Smith Apple
> and Horseradish Salad drizzled with a Beet and Cider Reduction" (a
> single scallop, tiny garnish of salad); "Crispy Panamanian Snapper on
> a Cauliflower Puree with a Caramelized Lemon Marmalade and Lobster Roe
> Butter Sauce" (~2 oz. snapper, small amount of rich sauce); "Pan
> Roased Maine Lobster and Local Shitake Casserole with a Sweet Onion
> Puree and Oven Roasted Tomatoes" (cupcake-sized ramekin of a casserole
> w/ about 1 oz. of lobster, tomato, shitakes, creamy sauce); "A Duet of
> Local Lamb -- Cinnamon and Chili Braised Lamb Cheek and Grilled Loin
> of Lamb with Sweet Corn Jonny Cake, Fire Roased Vegetable Relish and
> finished with an Arugula and Bacon Sauce" (~2 oz. lamb, 2" diameter
> jonnycake, a bit of relish and sauce); "Candied Almond Encrusted Brie
> with a Honey dipped Greek Spiced Cookie" (1/2 oz. brie w/ finger-sized
> biscotti-like cookie); "Caramelized Chardonnay Poached Pear and
> Chocolate filled Crepe on a Sweet Orange Chutney and drizzled with a
> Vanilla and Chamomile Tea Sauce" (very small crepe with just a little
> filling -- but very yummy :-) )
>


This sounds "Inn at Little Washington"ish...I enjoy your splurges
almost as much as your consistency!

kellye

On 2 Jan 2007 13:10:30 -0800, "k." <kelbutt@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Chris Braun wrote:
>> Last night we went to a lovely New Year's Eve dinner dance at a
>> country restaurant that we love. Because it's about 40 miles away and
>> we didn't want to drive home that late -- especially with people on
>> the road who'd been drinking a lot -- we got a motel room in that town
>> and stayed overnight. The dinner was great -- and not too fattening.
>> This is a restaurant that specializes in very small,
>> exquisitely-prepared dishes. We had six courses but each was only 3
>> or 4 bites -- very satisfying but not enough to leave us feeling
>> stuffed.
><snip>
>> * 9:00 -- 12:00: 13 oz. wine; 2 small pieces of whole grain bread w/ 1
>> pat butter: "Pan Seared Sea Scallop on an Orange, Granny Smith Apple
>> and Horseradish Salad drizzled with a Beet and Cider Reduction" (a
>> single scallop, tiny garnish of salad); "Crispy Panamanian Snapper on
>> a Cauliflower Puree with a Caramelized Lemon Marmalade and Lobster Roe
>> Butter Sauce" (~2 oz. snapper, small amount of rich sauce); "Pan
>> Roased Maine Lobster and Local Shitake Casserole with a Sweet Onion
>> Puree and Oven Roasted Tomatoes" (cupcake-sized ramekin of a casserole
>> w/ about 1 oz. of lobster, tomato, shitakes, creamy sauce); "A Duet of
>> Local Lamb -- Cinnamon and Chili Braised Lamb Cheek and Grilled Loin
>> of Lamb with Sweet Corn Jonny Cake, Fire Roased Vegetable Relish and
>> finished with an Arugula and Bacon Sauce" (~2 oz. lamb, 2" diameter
>> jonnycake, a bit of relish and sauce); "Candied Almond Encrusted Brie
>> with a Honey dipped Greek Spiced Cookie" (1/2 oz. brie w/ finger-sized
>> biscotti-like cookie); "Caramelized Chardonnay Poached Pear and
>> Chocolate filled Crepe on a Sweet Orange Chutney and drizzled with a
>> Vanilla and Chamomile Tea Sauce" (very small crepe with just a little
>> filling -- but very yummy :-) )
>>
>
>
>This sounds "Inn at Little Washington"ish...I enjoy your splurges
>almost as much as your consistency!
>
>kellye

Interesting you should say that! This restaurant is Foti's in
Culpeper, VA -- started by folks who left the Inn, in particular Frank
Maragos, who was executive sous chef at the Inn. He and his wife Sue
own Foti's. Here's a review from Washingtonian:

http://www.washingtonian.com/restaurantreviews/375.html

Are you in the DC area?

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

Chris Braun wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2007 13:10:30 -0800, "k." <kelbutt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting you should say that! This restaurant is Foti's in
> Culpeper, VA -- started by folks who left the Inn, in particular Frank
> Maragos, who was executive sous chef at the Inn. He and his wife Sue
> own Foti's. Here's a review from Washingtonian:
>
> http://www.washingtonian.com/restaurantreviews/375.html
>
> Are you in the DC area?

Not any more! I actually lived in the Tidewater area of Virginia for 3
years, then Rockville for 1. Then I moved out here to Northern Cali,
which is where I grew up. I was in the restaurant biz for a long while,
though, and am pretty familiar with the Inn's style. Sounds awfully
good!

k.

On 3 Jan 2007 10:51:49 -0800, "k." <kelbutt@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Chris Braun wrote:
>> On 2 Jan 2007 13:10:30 -0800, "k." <kelbutt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting you should say that! This restaurant is Foti's in
>> Culpeper, VA -- started by folks who left the Inn, in particular Frank
>> Maragos, who was executive sous chef at the Inn. He and his wife Sue
>> own Foti's. Here's a review from Washingtonian:
>>
>> http://www.washingtonian.com/restaurantreviews/375.html
>>
>> Are you in the DC area?
>
>Not any more! I actually lived in the Tidewater area of Virginia for 3
>years, then Rockville for 1. Then I moved out here to Northern Cali,
>which is where I grew up. I was in the restaurant biz for a long while,
>though, and am pretty familiar with the Inn's style. Sounds awfully
>good!
>
>k.

Interesting. I actually lived in Rockville during high school -- back
in the 60s.

I like the Inn a lot -- have eaten there 5 or 6 times over the years.
It's pricey, though. Last time we ate there our check for four people
(with wines, of course) was over $1000. So we don't get there too
often :-).

Another place we love in the area -- not nearly as well known as the
Inn, but a gorgeous place with great food -- is Poplar Springs Inn:
http://manorhouseatpoplarsprings.com/. That's where we had our recent
brunch splurge.


Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004