Food Journal Dec.5

December 5, 2006

1/2 bagel 145
Cream cheese 50
Coffee w/whitener 45
1 cup cabbage 33
1 cup broccoli 55
50 g chicken 83
1/2 cup black beans 95
78 g potato 73
50 mL skim milk 16
2 kisses 50
1/2 cup black beans 95
532 g chicken yakisoba 977
------------------------------------------------
1717 kcal

I did really well, up until dinnertime. I just kept getting seconds and
thirds. I really wanted to throw it all up, but I stopped myself. I
have to learn to accept the consequences of overeating. If I purge it
will only make it easier to overeat and purge next time. It'll make me
more likely to binge if I can purge. I need to stop the binging AND the
purging. Tomorrow I will just have to eat less. I'm aiming for 800 kcal.

On 5 Dec 2006 20:26:40 -0800, "Jenny" <jennyszet@gmail.com> wrote:

>December 5, 2006
>
>1/2 bagel 145
>Cream cheese 50
>Coffee w/whitener 45
>1 cup cabbage 33
>1 cup broccoli 55
>50 g chicken 83
>1/2 cup black beans 95
>78 g potato 73
>50 mL skim milk 16
>2 kisses 50
>1/2 cup black beans 95
>532 g chicken yakisoba 977
>------------------------------------------------
>1717 kcal
>
>I did really well, up until dinnertime. I just kept getting seconds and
>thirds. I really wanted to throw it all up, but I stopped myself. I
>have to learn to accept the consequences of overeating. If I purge it
>will only make it easier to overeat and purge next time. It'll make me
>more likely to binge if I can purge. I need to stop the binging AND the
>purging. Tomorrow I will just have to eat less. I'm aiming for 800 kcal.

This all makes sense up until last your last sentence. This is just
wrong. You do not make up for a binge by starving yourself the next
day. That just keeps the cycle going. You just get back on plan, and
eat at your goal calorie level for the day. You know better than this
-- I know you do :-) !



Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

Thanks for knocking some sense into me. I was really going to aim for
800 (or fewer) kcal tomorrow, but I now realize something: restricting
after a binge is also characteristic of bulimia. I feel so guilty after
a binge that that I feel like I must throw it all up or severely
restrict my calories. I have to break the cycle. Experience tells me
that restricting only makes me so hungry that I binge again. It's a
viscous cycle.

Thank-you Chris, for knocking sense into me. I'm going to aim for 1100
kcal tomorrow.


Chris Braun wrote:
> This all makes sense up until last your last sentence. This is just
> wrong. You do not make up for a binge by starving yourself the next
> day. That just keeps the cycle going. You just get back on plan, and
> eat at your goal calorie level for the day. You know better than this
> -- I know you do :-) !
>
>
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"Jenny" <jennyszet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165385676.340479.232990@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for knocking some sense into me. I was really going to aim for
> 800 (or fewer) kcal tomorrow, but I now realize something: restricting
> after a binge is also characteristic of bulimia. I feel so guilty after
> a binge that that I feel like I must throw it all up or severely
> restrict my calories. I have to break the cycle. Experience tells me
> that restricting only makes me so hungry that I binge again. It's a
> viscous cycle.
>
> Thank-you Chris, for knocking sense into me. I'm going to aim for 1100
> kcal tomorrow.

I don't have an eating disorder, but I can totally relate to overdoing it
and then feeling this crushing guilt for "not having enough control". And I
can totally relate to wanting to starve myself the next day to make up for
it, since I have this strong desire to maintain x amount of weight loss in x
amount of time. But it's just not like that, and it's far more important to
get healthy.

Betsy

Jenny,

Try tracking your food on www.sparkpeople.com

It's a great place. You can add food to your journal and it
precalculates the calories. I do it sometimes before I eat to see what
I will be using.

Also tracks water you drink, which is really, really important.

Mo


Jenny wrote:
> December 5, 2006
>
> 1/2 bagel 145
> Cream cheese 50
> Coffee w/whitener 45
> 1 cup cabbage 33
> 1 cup broccoli 55
> 50 g chicken 83
> 1/2 cup black beans 95
> 78 g potato 73
> 50 mL skim milk 16
> 2 kisses 50
> 1/2 cup black beans 95
> 532 g chicken yakisoba 977
> ------------------------------------------------
> 1717 kcal
>
> I did really well, up until dinnertime. I just kept getting seconds and
> thirds. I really wanted to throw it all up, but I stopped myself. I
> have to learn to accept the consequences of overeating. If I purge it
> will only make it easier to overeat and purge next time. It'll make me
> more likely to binge if I can purge. I need to stop the binging AND the
> purging. Tomorrow I will just have to eat less. I'm aiming for 800 kcal.

Jenny,

Try tracking your food on www.sparkpeople.com

It's a great place. You can add food to your journal and it
precalculates the calories. I do it sometimes before I eat to see what
I will be using.

Also tracks water you drink, which is really, really important.

Mo


Jenny wrote:
> December 5, 2006
>
> 1/2 bagel 145
> Cream cheese 50
> Coffee w/whitener 45
> 1 cup cabbage 33
> 1 cup broccoli 55
> 50 g chicken 83
> 1/2 cup black beans 95
> 78 g potato 73
> 50 mL skim milk 16
> 2 kisses 50
> 1/2 cup black beans 95
> 532 g chicken yakisoba 977
> ------------------------------------------------
> 1717 kcal
>
> I did really well, up until dinnertime. I just kept getting seconds and
> thirds. I really wanted to throw it all up, but I stopped myself. I
> have to learn to accept the consequences of overeating. If I purge it
> will only make it easier to overeat and purge next time. It'll make me
> more likely to binge if I can purge. I need to stop the binging AND the
> purging. Tomorrow I will just have to eat less. I'm aiming for 800 kcal.

On 6 Dec 2006 09:58:13 -0800, "Momojojo" <momojojo@comcast.net> wrote:

>Jenny,
>
>Try tracking your food on www.sparkpeople.com
>
>It's a great place. You can add food to your journal and it
>precalculates the calories. I do it sometimes before I eat to see what
>I will be using.
>
>Also tracks water you drink, which is really, really important.
>
>Mo

I signed up with them and they flooded me with email.

Don't have that problem with http://www.fitday.com

--

BlueBrooke
T2/D&E/June 2005

The things that come to those who wait will
be the things left by those who got there first.

Jenny wrote:
> December 5, 2006
>
> 1/2 bagel 145
> Cream cheese 50
> Coffee w/whitener 45
> 1 cup cabbage 33
> 1 cup broccoli 55
> 50 g chicken 83
> 1/2 cup black beans 95
> 78 g potato 73
> 50 mL skim milk 16
> 2 kisses 50
> 1/2 cup black beans 95
> 532 g chicken yakisoba 977
> ------------------------------------------------
> 1717 kcal
>
> I did really well, up until dinnertime. I just kept getting seconds and
> thirds. I really wanted to throw it all up, but I stopped myself. I
> have to learn to accept the consequences of overeating. If I purge it
> will only make it easier to overeat and purge next time. It'll make me
> more likely to binge if I can purge. I need to stop the binging AND the
> purging. Tomorrow I will just have to eat less. I'm aiming for 800 kcal.


You know binging & purging is never the answer! Something you might
want to consider (again) is binging and say... running!
We all slip up occasionally and the good news is that you can, its not
the end of the world and it certainly doesnt warrant starving yourself
the next day to make up for it. It will never work in the long term,
it's just not sustainable. A good solid, REGULAR physical training
regime will allow you eat some crap here and there, you really just
have to be aware that there is a price to be paid for anything you put
in your mouth. Nothing discourages eating garbage more than watching
the calorie counter slowly ticking over on the treadmill as you run.
Dude, your young and you certainly dont appear to be overweight as far
as I'm aware (at least not by my standards). To me it really sounds
like all you need is toning and conditioning. Get fit now, dont wait 10
years for a health crisis to force you into action. You'll be amazed by
what your body can do and the way it can change the way it looks. God
knows I am, it still shocks me everyday and I only wish I'd figured it
out years ago.


Rob B.
329/159/159

<bunker90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165440033.135030.168830@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Jenny wrote:
>> December 5, 2006
>>
>> 1/2 bagel 145
>> Cream cheese 50
>> Coffee w/whitener 45
>> 1 cup cabbage 33
>> 1 cup broccoli 55
>> 50 g chicken 83
>> 1/2 cup black beans 95
>> 78 g potato 73
>> 50 mL skim milk 16
>> 2 kisses 50
>> 1/2 cup black beans 95
>> 532 g chicken yakisoba 977
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> 1717 kcal
>>
>> I did really well, up until dinnertime. I just kept getting seconds and
>> thirds. I really wanted to throw it all up, but I stopped myself. I
>> have to learn to accept the consequences of overeating. If I purge it
>> will only make it easier to overeat and purge next time. It'll make me
>> more likely to binge if I can purge. I need to stop the binging AND the
>> purging. Tomorrow I will just have to eat less. I'm aiming for 800 kcal.
>
>
> You know binging & purging is never the answer! Something you might
> want to consider (again) is binging and say... running!
> We all slip up occasionally and the good news is that you can, its not
> the end of the world and it certainly doesnt warrant starving yourself
> the next day to make up for it. It will never work in the long term,
> it's just not sustainable. A good solid, REGULAR physical training
> regime will allow you eat some crap here and there, you really just
> have to be aware that there is a price to be paid for anything you put
> in your mouth. Nothing discourages eating garbage more than watching
> the calorie counter slowly ticking over on the treadmill as you run.
> Dude, your young and you certainly dont appear to be overweight as far
> as I'm aware (at least not by my standards). To me it really sounds
> like all you need is toning and conditioning. Get fit now, dont wait 10
> years for a health crisis to force you into action. You'll be amazed by
> what your body can do and the way it can change the way it looks. God
> knows I am, it still shocks me everyday and I only wish I'd figured it
> out years ago.
>
>
> Rob B.
> 329/159/159

From 329 down to 159... That is just amazing. Fantastic. I'll bet you
hear "how did you do it?" all the time!

You're right exercise is a much better way to deal with things. I don't
usually exercise and I definitely can't run (I'm terribly out of
shape). Right now my goal is to walk or ride my exercise bike for 30
mins five times a week. I rode the bike today for 30 mins.

bunker90@hotmail.com wrote:
> You know binging & purging is never the answer! Something you might
> want to consider (again) is binging and say... running!
> We all slip up occasionally and the good news is that you can, its not
> the end of the world and it certainly doesnt warrant starving yourself
> the next day to make up for it. It will never work in the long term,
> it's just not sustainable. A good solid, REGULAR physical training
> regime will allow you eat some crap here and there, you really just
> have to be aware that there is a price to be paid for anything you put
> in your mouth. Nothing discourages eating garbage more than watching
> the calorie counter slowly ticking over on the treadmill as you run.
> Dude, your young and you certainly dont appear to be overweight as far
> as I'm aware (at least not by my standards). To me it really sounds
> like all you need is toning and conditioning. Get fit now, dont wait 10
> years for a health crisis to force you into action. You'll be amazed by
> what your body can do and the way it can change the way it looks. God
> knows I am, it still shocks me everyday and I only wish I'd figured it
> out years ago.
>
>
> Rob B.
> 329/159/159

Jenny wrote:
> You're right exercise is a much better way to deal with things. I don't
> usually exercise and I definitely can't run (I'm terribly out of
> shape). Right now my goal is to walk or ride my exercise bike for 30
> mins five times a week. I rode the bike today for 30 mins.
>


Riding is a great start, still one of my favorites and pretty much my
primary mode of transport these days. I'm a big spin class man too, I
still try to get in 5 a week and they work wonders if done correctly.
As for the running, start slow and steady and gradually work it up. Its
certainly still not my favorite past time, I just have no natural
running rhythm. Some people just look like they are born to run, I aint
one of them! It is however a necessary evil. If you have access to a
treadmill you'll find that much easier. Honestly, given time and
persistence you will amaze yourself by what you can train yourself to
do. 2 years ago I couldnt walk up the gentle hill that my house is on
without continually stopping, would never have believed the stuff I'm
capable of now. Remarkable things these human bodies!