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Old 06-15-2008, 10:14 PM
Sal_55
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Default Grapefruit diet question.

I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
for breakfast etc etc?
Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
Thanks and bye.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:14 PM
Del Cecchi
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"Sal_55" <zaman_2756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> for breakfast etc etc?
> Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> Thanks and bye.


It is like totally bogus. Been around for many years. Google for
reviews.


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Old 06-16-2008, 04:32 PM
dkw12002@yahoo.com
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On Jun 15, 11:14*am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> "Sal_55" <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:97a84bdc-3a22-4459-9d9d-bcd8c90ae32d@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> > is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> > streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> > without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> > all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> > exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> > for breakfast etc etc?
> > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> > Thanks and bye.

>
> It is like totally bogus. *Been around for many years. *Google for
> reviews.


Right. Grapefruit is good food, but there's nothing sacred or even
important about eating it. Lots of people seem to subscribe to the fat-
burning idea where one food or nutrient is supposed to be a magic
bullet or a cure-all. dkw
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:28 PM
Sal_55
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Default Re: Grapefruit diet question.

On 16 Jun, 16:17, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 11:14*am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sal_55" <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:97a84bdc-3a22-4459-9d9d-bcd8c90ae32d@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>
> > >I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> > > is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> > > streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> > > without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> > > all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> > > exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> > > for breakfast etc etc?
> > > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> > > Thanks and bye.

>
> > It is like totally bogus. *Been around for many years. *Google for
> > reviews.

>
> Right. Grapefruit is good food, but there's nothing sacred or even
> important about eating it. Lots of people seem to subscribe to the fat-
> burning idea where one food or nutrient is supposed to be a magic
> bullet or a cure-all. dkw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
lying or just confused?
What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?
Thanks friends.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
> grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
> lying or just confused?
> What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
> before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?


Being able to lose some in a short time doesn't really
matter. There are so many different ways to lose. What
matters is being able to keep it off for years on end. And
so any diet that lacks a maintenance mode is a fad diet.

Since ASD is a support group with folks who've been
around for years, you'll find support for plans that work
long term. It's a bad idea to support folks who want to
go on crzay fad diets because it points them in the wrong
direction. Gain it back and the effort will have been
wasted so better to pick a plan that doesn't come with a
guarantee that it will all be regained. The problem with
all fad diets lacking a maintenance phase is they don't
mention that the come with such a guarantee but they
really do.

Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have
strict menus for anything other than a brief starting
phase, diets without long term results. Fad diets all.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Sal_55
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On 16 Jun, 21:46, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
> > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
> > lying or just confused?
> > What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
> > before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?

>
> Being able to lose some in a short time doesn't really
> matter. *There are so many different ways to lose. *What
> matters is being able to keep it off for years on end. *And
> so any diet that lacks a maintenance mode is a fad diet.
>
> Since ASD is a support group with folks who've been
> around for years, you'll find support for plans that work
> long term. *It's a bad idea to support folks who want to
> go on crzay fad diets because it points them in the wrong
> direction. *Gain it back and the effort will have been
> wasted so better to pick a plan that doesn't come with a
> guarantee that it will all be regained. *The problem with
> all fad diets lacking a maintenance phase is they don't
> mention that the come with such a guarantee but they
> really do.
>
> Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have
> strict menus for anything other than a brief starting
> phase, diets without long term results. *Fad diets all.


Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about
10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story).
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have
> > strict menus for anything other than a brief starting
> > phase, diets without long term results. *Fad diets all.

>
> Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about
> 10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story).


If you want to do something unhealthy and short term
you might want to ask around in a group frequented
by wrestlers. Then come back later to discuss the
long term so you won't need a crash effort next year.

But short term losing isn't all that hard. Plenty of ways.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:18 AM
Del Cecchi
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"Sal_55" <zaman_2756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 16 Jun, 16:17, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 11:14 am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sal_55" <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:97a84bdc-3a22-4459-9d9d-bcd8c90ae32d@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>
> > >I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet
> > > there
> > > is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> > > streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the
> > > diet,but
> > > without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just
> > > eliminate
> > > all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> > > exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> > > for breakfast etc etc?
> > > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> > > Thanks and bye.

>
> > It is like totally bogus. Been around for many years. Google for
> > reviews.

>
> Right. Grapefruit is good food, but there's nothing sacred or even
> important about eating it. Lots of people seem to subscribe to the fat-
> burning idea where one food or nutrient is supposed to be a magic
> bullet or a cure-all. dkw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
lying or just confused?
What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?
Thanks friends.

they were lying.


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Old 06-17-2008, 01:18 AM
dkw12002@yahoo.com
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On Jun 16, 2:19*pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 16 Jun, 21:46, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
> > > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
> > > lying or just confused?
> > > What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
> > > before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?

>
> > Being able to lose some in a short time doesn't really
> > matter. *There are so many different ways to lose. *What
> > matters is being able to keep it off for years on end. *And
> > so any diet that lacks a maintenance mode is a fad diet.

>
> > Since ASD is a support group with folks who've been
> > around for years, you'll find support for plans that work
> > long term. *It's a bad idea to support folks who want to
> > go on crzay fad diets because it points them in the wrong
> > direction. *Gain it back and the effort will have been
> > wasted so better to pick a plan that doesn't come with a
> > guarantee that it will all be regained. *The problem with
> > all fad diets lacking a maintenance phase is they don't
> > mention that the come with such a guarantee but they
> > really do.

>
> > Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have
> > strict menus for anything other than a brief starting
> > phase, diets without long term results. *Fad diets all.

>
> Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about
> 10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story).- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


10 pounds equates to 35,000 calories, so you just need to eat 35,000
calories less over whatever timeframe you choose to lose the weight.
Just count calories and know what number of calories you are presently
eating to maintain your overweight condition. If you are still gaining
weight, then counting the calories you are eating doesn't work. It is
still easy to figure if you know how much you are gaining over a
certain time period, say a month. A couple of pounds a week loss is
recommended unless you are very overweight, then you could lose more.
Each pound of body fat is lost with 3500 fewer calories. The
grapefruit juice has about 100 calories per cup. That's not much, so
if you think it might help, it would be better than pop, but not as
good as water or diet pop for losing weight. There's nothing magical
about grapefruit juice. Lots of dieters never drink their calories and
feel it is best to eat the grapefruit than drink the juice. It takes
longer and is more satisfying. Because of the high sugar content, many
nutritionists do not recommend fruit juices. dkw
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:11 AM
James G
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On Jun 15, 11:24 am, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> for breakfast etc etc?
> Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> Thanks and bye.


Fruits are strange to a diet. They're sugary, and contain calories.
However, fruits are juicy, so a lot of their content is watery, giving
you a lot of volume-per-calorie. Psychological hunger and dietary
regulation are driven by volume often, so fruit can be a good way to
give yourself a little sweet treat without busting your budget.

As dkw pointed out, there is no one-food diet. No one supplementary
food will make a huge difference. In the end, it's all about becoming
more aware of what you're eating, deciding how much you can do
without, and accepting the short-term discomfort for the long-term
gain.

I personally like cantaloupe, strawberries, and an occasional
watermelon. They're all juicy, sweet, and won't ruin a calorie budget
if you consciously keep track of how much you eat.


But fruits aren't a good thing to base a diet around. I personally
like to make the majority of my meals as green and leafy as possible.
Broccoli is my newest craze; I steam it with pretty much every meal
until it's just soft enough, with a little crunch left over. Some
salt (don't be afraid of salt! No calories, seasoning value, and
manageable water offsets), and it makes a great meal.

I think the best advice regarding diet is not to follow ANYBODY's
rules verbatim. Do your research, find out what works for others, try
to plan what works for you, and experiment. Watch the results (have
PATIENCE here), and decide the next course of action.

Good luck!
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:57 PM
dkw12002@yahoo.com
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On Jun 16, 9:32*pm, James G <SnoopJ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 11:24 am, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> > is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> > streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> > without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> > all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> > exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> > for breakfast etc etc?
> > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> > Thanks and bye.

>
> Fruits are strange to a diet. *They're sugary, and contain calories.
> However, fruits are juicy, so a lot of their content is watery, giving
> you a lot of volume-per-calorie. *Psychological hunger and dietary
> regulation are driven by volume often, so fruit can be a good way to
> give yourself a little sweet treat without busting your budget.
>
> As dkw pointed out, there is no one-food diet. *No one supplementary
> food will make a huge difference. *In the end, it's all about becoming
> more aware of what you're eating, deciding how much you can do
> without, and accepting the short-term discomfort for the long-term
> gain.
>
> I personally like cantaloupe, strawberries, and an occasional
> watermelon. *They're all juicy, sweet, and won't ruin a calorie budget
> if you consciously keep track of how much you eat.
>
> But fruits aren't a good thing to base a diet around. *I personally
> like to make the majority of my meals as green and leafy as possible.
> Broccoli is my newest craze; I steam it with pretty much every meal
> until it's just soft enough, with a little crunch left over. *Some
> salt (don't be afraid of salt! *No calories, seasoning value, and
> manageable water offsets), and it makes a great meal.
>
> I think the best advice regarding diet is not to follow ANYBODY's
> rules verbatim. *Do your research, find out what works for others, try
> to plan what works for you, and experiment. *Watch the results (have
> PATIENCE here), and decide the next course of action.
>
> Good luck!


That broccoli sounds good. I also eat a little watermelon and
canteloupe. As I recall, somebodies list of superfoods included
watermelon. I don't know if broccoli was on there but it seems pretty
super. My favorite fruit is blueberries. They are loaded with fiber
and vitamins and are low calorie at 70 cal a cup. I buy frozen ones.
They are always perfect plump and sweet...no mold or too ripe or too
green like the "fresh" ones. Frozen is almost always cheaper as well.
I drop some in my hot oatmeal. They defrost in the hot oats and the
hot oats cool off a bit so you can eat them right away.
Several years ago on a major news station, there was this news teaser
from some group...nutritionist or other experts, I guess, but really
don't recall...anyway, they were going to disclose the best single
food. I listened and watched for about a hour, and finally what they
came up with is mushrooms. I have seen them mentioned since,
especially the shitake, as being especially good, but alas, there is
no such thing as the "best single food", like you say. dkw
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:26 AM
James G
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On Jun 17, 11:04 am, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 9:32 pm, James G <SnoopJ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 15, 11:24 am, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> > > is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> > > streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> > > without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> > > all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> > > exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> > > for breakfast etc etc?
> > > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> > > Thanks and bye.

>
> > Fruits are strange to a diet. They're sugary, and contain calories.
> > However, fruits are juicy, so a lot of their content is watery, giving
> > you a lot of volume-per-calorie. Psychological hunger and dietary
> > regulation are driven by volume often, so fruit can be a good way to
> > give yourself a little sweet treat without busting your budget.

>
> > As dkw pointed out, there is no one-food diet. No one supplementary
> > food will make a huge difference. In the end, it's all about becoming
> > more aware of what you're eating, deciding how much you can do
> > without, and accepting the short-term discomfort for the long-term
> > gain.

>
> > I personally like cantaloupe, strawberries, and an occasional
> > watermelon. They're all juicy, sweet, and won't ruin a calorie budget
> > if you consciously keep track of how much you eat.

>
> > But fruits aren't a good thing to base a diet around. I personally
> > like to make the majority of my meals as green and leafy as possible.
> > Broccoli is my newest craze; I steam it with pretty much every meal
> > until it's just soft enough, with a little crunch left over. Some
> > salt (don't be afraid of salt! No calories, seasoning value, and
> > manageable water offsets), and it makes a great meal.

>
> > I think the best advice regarding diet is not to follow ANYBODY's
> > rules verbatim. Do your research, find out what works for others, try
> > to plan what works for you, and experiment. Watch the results (have
> > PATIENCE here), and decide the next course of action.

>
> > Good luck!

>
> That broccoli sounds good. I also eat a little watermelon and
> canteloupe. As I recall, somebodies list of superfoods included
> watermelon. I don't know if broccoli was on there but it seems pretty
> super. My favorite fruit is blueberries. They are loaded with fiber
> and vitamins and are low calorie at 70 cal a cup. I buy frozen ones.
> They are always perfect plump and sweet...no mold or too ripe or too
> green like the "fresh" ones. Frozen is almost always cheaper as well.
> I drop some in my hot oatmeal. They defrost in the hot oats and the
> hot oats cool off a bit so you can eat them right away.
> Several years ago on a major news station, there was this news teaser
> from some group...nutritionist or other experts, I guess, but really
> don't recall...anyway, they were going to disclose the best single
> food. I listened and watched for about a hour, and finally what they
> came up with is mushrooms. I have seen them mentioned since,
> especially the shitake, as being especially good, but alas, there is
> no such thing as the "best single food", like you say. dkw


After reading John Walker's diet eBook and deciding to get it started
already, I took his advice and kept a jar of pickles on hand for a
null-value snack. His reasoning for 6 (!!!) calories per spear is
that pickles are basically crunchy water.

On a curious whim, I looked up the facts on broccoli. According to
the USDA National Nutrient Database ( http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
), 100g of raw broccoli contains 89.30 +/- 1.04g of water. 90% water
by weight! Wow, I never really would have guessed that one! Also,
6.64g carb, 2.82g protein, and 2.6g dietary fiber. And only 34 kcal!

Water is non-caloric, and dietary fiber can't be broken down. That
gives almost 92% non-calorie content by weight. So you can eat a big
old helping of broccoli and just a little of your "main" course and
come away without hunger or guilt.

But now that I think about it, a lot of other foods seem like they'd
have a high water content. According to the same database, CANNED
green beans are also close to 90% water by weight, at only 35 kcal for
100g.

Adding even two vegetables to your meal makes it easy to take up more
than half of your meal with low-cal food, but avoid the boredom of one-
side eating.


Mom and Dad had it right all along, eat those veggies!
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:26 AM
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On Jun 17, 3:24*pm, James G <SnoopJ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 11:04 am, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 9:32 pm, James G <SnoopJ...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Jun 15, 11:24 am, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > > I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a
> > > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there
> > > > is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are
> > > > streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but
> > > > without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate
> > > > all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the
> > > > exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon
> > > > for breakfast etc etc?
> > > > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good?
> > > > Thanks and bye.

>
> > > Fruits are strange to a diet. *They're sugary, and contain calories.
> > > However, fruits are juicy, so a lot of their content is watery, giving
> > > you a lot of volume-per-calorie. *Psychological hunger and dietary
> > > regulation are driven by volume often, so fruit can be a good way to
> > > give yourself a little sweet treat without busting your budget.

>
> > > As dkw pointed out, there is no one-food diet. *No one supplementary
> > > food will make a huge difference. *In the end, it's all about becoming
> > > more aware of what you're eating, deciding how much you can do
> > > without, and accepting the short-term discomfort for the long-term
> > > gain.

>
> > > I personally like cantaloupe, strawberries, and an occasional
> > > watermelon. *They're all juicy, sweet, and won't ruin a calorie budget
> > > if you consciously keep track of how much you eat.

>
> > > But fruits aren't a good thing to base a diet around. *I personally
> > > like to make the majority of my meals as green and leafy as possible.
> > > Broccoli is my newest craze; I steam it with pretty much every meal
> > > until it's just soft enough, with a little crunch left over. *Some
> > > salt (don't be afraid of salt! *No calories, seasoning value, and
> > > manageable water offsets), and it makes a great meal.

>
> > > I think the best advice regarding diet is not to follow ANYBODY's
> > > rules verbatim. *Do your research, find out what works for others, try
> > > to plan what works for you, and experiment. *Watch the results (have
> > > PATIENCE here), and decide the next course of action.

>
> > > Good luck!

>
> > That broccoli sounds good. I also eat a little watermelon and
> > canteloupe. As I recall, somebodies list of superfoods included
> > watermelon. I don't know if broccoli was on there but it seems pretty
> > super. My favorite fruit is blueberries. They are loaded with fiber
> > and vitamins and are low calorie at 70 cal a cup. I buy frozen ones.
> > They are always perfect plump and sweet...no mold or too ripe or too
> > green like the "fresh" ones. Frozen is almost always cheaper as well.
> > I drop some in my hot oatmeal. They defrost in the hot oats and the
> > hot oats cool off a bit so you can eat them right away.
> > Several years ago on a major news station, there was this news teaser
> > from some group...nutritionist or other experts, I guess, but really
> > don't recall...anyway, they were going to disclose the best single
> > food. I listened and watched for about a hour, and finally what they
> > came up with is mushrooms. I have seen them mentioned since,
> > especially the shitake, as being especially good, but alas, there is
> > no such thing as the "best single food", like you say. dkw

>
> After reading John Walker's diet eBook and deciding to get it started
> already, I took his advice and kept a jar of pickles on hand for a
> null-value snack. *His reasoning for 6 (!!!) calories per spear is
> that pickles are basically crunchy water.
>
> On a curious whim, I looked up the facts on broccoli. *According to
> the USDA National Nutrient Database (http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
> ), *100g of raw broccoli contains 89.30 +/- 1.04g of water. *90% water
> by weight! *Wow, I never really would have guessed that one! *Also,
> 6.64g carb, 2.82g protein, and 2.6g dietary fiber. *And only 34 kcal!
>
> Water is non-caloric, and dietary fiber can't be broken down. *That
> gives almost 92% non-calorie content by weight. *So you can eat a big
> old helping of broccoli and just a little of your "main" course and
> come away without hunger or guilt.
>
> But now that I think about it, a lot of other foods seem like they'd
> have a high water content. *According to the same database, CANNED
> green beans are also close to 90% water by weight, at only 35 kcal for
> 100g.
>
> Adding even two vegetables to your meal makes it easy to take up more
> than half of your meal with low-cal food, but avoid the boredom of one-
> side eating.
>
> Mom and Dad had it right all along, eat those veggies!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Right. I look for high water, high fiber and low fat. Beans and
lentils turn out to be very filling and they are both very high fiber,
very low fat, and high water (once they're cooked). Of course they are
also low calorie. Green beans are especially good because they are so
low calorie....and loaded with protein. A baked potato is pretty
filling too and low calorie until stuff gets added to it.

I also keep pickles around. I rinse off as much salt as I can if I
plan to eat 5 or 6 dills. Mine say they are 10 cal. per large dill
pickle. About the only thing lower in calories than cucumbers is
lettuce and celery, which I also eat a lot of. Part of the secret to
my weight loss and maintenance was figuring out how to eat a lot of
food, which I do. dkw
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On Jun 16, 2:19 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 16 Jun, 21:46, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
> > > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
> > > lying or just confused?
> > > What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
> > > before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?

>
> > Being able to lose some in a short time doesn't really
> > matter. There are so many different ways to lose. What
> > matters is being able to keep it off for years on end. And
> > so any diet that lacks a maintenance mode is a fad diet.

>
> > Since ASD is a support group with folks who've been
> > around for years, you'll find support for plans that work
> > long term. It's a bad idea to support folks who want to
> > go on crzay fad diets because it points them in the wrong
> > direction. Gain it back and the effort will have been
> > wasted so better to pick a plan that doesn't come with a
> > guarantee that it will all be regained. The problem with
> > all fad diets lacking a maintenance phase is they don't
> > mention that the come with such a guarantee but they
> > really do.

>
> > Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have
> > strict menus for anything other than a brief starting
> > phase, diets without long term results. Fad diets all.

>
> Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about
> 10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story).- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


10 pounds equates to 35,000 calories, so you just need to eat 35,000
calories less over whatever timeframe you choose to lose the weight.
Just count calories and know what number of calories you are presently
eating to maintain your overweight condition. If you are still gaining
weight, then counting the calories you are eating doesn't work. It is
still easy to figure if you know how much you are gaining over a
certain time period, say a month. A couple of pounds a week loss is
recommended unless you are very overweight, then you could lose more.
Each pound of body fat is lost with 3500 fewer calories. The
grapefruit juice has about 100 calories per cup. That's not much, so
if you think it might help, it would be better than pop, but not as
good as water or diet pop for losing weight. There's nothing magical
about grapefruit juice. Lots of dieters never drink their calories and
feel it is best to eat the grapefruit than drink the juice. It takes
longer and is more satisfying. Because of the high sugar content, many
nutritionists do not recommend fruit juices. dkw


And it shouldn't be taken with many medications. Drink a glass of water
before you eat to make you feel more full. Then work on keeping your
portions under control and watch those "empty calories".

Melissa


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On Jun 19, 9:45*am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:35dc615f-e657-43a1-abeb-3eec3d9dbcd5@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 16, 2:19 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16 Jun, 21:46, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of
> > > > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was
> > > > lying or just confused?
> > > > What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit
> > > > before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss?

>
> > > Being able to lose some in a short time doesn't really
> > > matter. There are so many different ways to lose. What
> > > matters is being able to keep it off for years on end. And
> > > so any diet that lacks a maintenance mode is a fad diet.

>
> > > Since ASD is a support group with folks who've been
> > > around for years, you'll find support for plans that work
> > > long term. It's a bad idea to support folks who want to
> > > go on crzay fad diets because it points them in the wrong
> > > direction. Gain it back and the effort will have been
> > > wasted so better to pick a plan that doesn't come with a
> > > guarantee that it will all be regained. The problem with
> > > all fad diets lacking a maintenance phase is they don't
> > > mention that the come with such a guarantee but they
> > > really do.

>
> > > Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have
> > > strict menus for anything other than a brief starting
> > > phase, diets without long term results. Fad diets all.

>
> > Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about
> > 10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story).- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> 10 pounds equates to 35,000 calories, so you just need to eat 35,000
> calories less over whatever timeframe you choose to lose the weight.
> Just count calories and know what number of calories you are presently
> eating to maintain your overweight condition. If you are still gaining
> weight, then counting the calories you are eating doesn't work. It is
> still easy to figure if you know how much you are gaining over a
> certain time period, say a month. A couple of pounds a week loss is
> recommended unless you are very overweight, then you could lose more.
> Each pound of body fat is lost with 3500 fewer calories. The
> grapefruit juice has about 100 calories per cup. That's not much, so
> if you think it might help, it would be better than pop, but not as
> good as water or diet pop for losing weight. There's nothing magical
> about grapefruit juice. Lots of dieters never drink their calories and
> feel it is best to eat the grapefruit than drink the juice. It takes
> longer and is more satisfying. Because of the high sugar content, many
> nutritionists do not recommend fruit juices. dkw
>
> And it shouldn't be taken with many medications. Drink a glass of water
> before you eat to make you feel more full. Then work on keeping your
> portions under control and watch those "empty calories".
>
> Melissa- Hide quoted text -
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Right Melissa, grapefruit juice interfers with several meds like
Viagra and certain heart meds...so they say. dkw
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