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Old 04-26-2007, 07:40 PM
Matty \(I Weighed More Than Jared From Subway\)
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Saw this article:

http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=634472007


Interesting. I think I mentioned reading the book "Fast Food Nation" by Eric
Schlosser on here before. He goes into detail on how marketing to kids is
big business. The most disturbing thing I read in the book was about a
school's voicemail system in Texas. I recall the opening message said
something like "Thank you for calling XXX school, proudly sponsored by
so-and-so cola" or something to that effect.

It had also mentioned that some school systems have a "fast food day" during
the week where different fast food restaurants set up shop in the cafeteria
for the kids to purchase their lunch from. School busses have advertisements
on the sides, one school that is near an airport has a soda logo on their
roof.

We as parents really need to step up and teach our kids proper eating
habits. I really struggle with that when my son leaves his hot dog
half-eaten or takes a few spoonfuls of yogurt and says he's done.

(I was raised in the old school, "take what you want but eat what you take,"
& the "clean your plate" clubs)

Matty (I weighed more than Jared from Subway)
510/252/210
(starting weight/current weight/goal weight)


* mini goal achieved - jog 7k by 03/31/07
* mini goal - 300lbs total lost by 09/30/07

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Old 04-26-2007, 07:40 PM
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:31:23 -0400, Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared
From Subway) wrote:

> We as parents really need to step up and teach our kids proper eating
> habits. I really struggle with that when my son leaves his hot dog
> half-eaten or takes a few spoonfuls of yogurt and says he's done.
>


It may be hard to see it when your son leave something uneaten... but,
remember, the human race has a STRONG instinct to survive. Your son
isn't going to let himself starve, he will eat what his body needs.

I know it's hard, but best step back and let your son develop normal
eating habits, wherein he eats as hungry and does not overeat.

As the portions have supersized, it's getting to where sometimes it is
darn near impossible for an adult to clean his/her plate at a
restaurant!

Your struggle is a worthy one... keep struggling!


> (I was raised in the old school, "take what you want but eat what you take,"
> & the "clean your plate" clubs)
>


Yah, but, think on how hard it can be to re-train those habits when
things go wrong and one is overweight and used to eating everything. I
know it's still hard to leave stuff on my plate, though that is a
lesson I am learning and now do much more frequently.


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Old 04-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:58:49 -0800, Cynthia P wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:31:23 -0400, Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared
> From Subway) wrote:
>
>> We as parents really need to step up and teach our kids proper eating
>> habits. I really struggle with that when my son leaves his hot dog
>> half-eaten or takes a few spoonfuls of yogurt and says he's done.
>>

>
> It may be hard to see it when your son leave something uneaten... but,
> remember, the human race has a STRONG instinct to survive. Your son
> isn't going to let himself starve, he will eat what his body needs.
>
> I know it's hard, but best step back and let your son develop normal
> eating habits, wherein he eats as hungry and does not overeat.
>
> As the portions have supersized, it's getting to where sometimes it is
> darn near impossible for an adult to clean his/her plate at a
> restaurant!


puhllllllleese, this is a "struggle", that he doesn't eat a whole
hotdog? Step back, this is hard?
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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On Apr 26, 2:58 pm, Cynthia P <nos...@dontwannit.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:31:23 -0400, Matty (I Weighed More Than Jared
>
> From Subway) wrote:
> > We as parents really need to step up and teach our kids proper eating
> > habits. I really struggle with that when my son leaves his hot dog
> > half-eaten or takes a few spoonfuls of yogurt and says he's done.

>
> It may be hard to see it when your son leave something uneaten... but,
> remember, the human race has a STRONG instinct to survive. Your son
> isn't going to let himself starve, he will eat what his body needs.


When I was child, I used to feel pressured, finished your dinner!
Only, if I had a strong will back than. I'll never do this to my
children, never!


> I know it's hard, but best step back and let your son develop normal
> eating habits, wherein he eats as hungry and does not overeat.


You know from what I have seen in my aunt's house. I have to agree
with you, and the big problem is the media & entertainment industry. I
no longer have cable to my home, nor TV. Obesity is a disease and you
get it from media.

>
> As the portions have supersized, it's getting to where sometimes it is
> darn near impossible for an adult to clean his/her plate at a
> restaurant!
>
> Your struggle is a worthy one... keep struggling!
>
> > (I was raised in the old school, "take what you want but eat what you take,"
> > & the "clean your plate" clubs)

>
> Yah, but, think on how hard it can be to re-train those habits when
> things go wrong and one is overweight and used to eating everything. I
> know it's still hard to leave stuff on my plate, though that is a
> lesson I am learning and now do much more frequently.
>
> --
> Cynthia
> 262/244/152



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Old 04-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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alishadevochka@gmail.com wrote:
<snip>
> You know from what I have seen in my aunt's house. I have to agree
> with you, and the big problem is the media & entertainment industry. I
> no longer have cable to my home, nor TV. Obesity is a disease and you
> get it from media.
>

<snip>

Why does it always have to be someone else's fault? Doesn't anyone
blame themselves or take responsibility for their own actions anymore?

We blamed smoking on the media too. We forbid the media to advertise
cigarettes and guess what happened? We still smoke. Maybe it wasn't
the media after all? Maybe it was our own weakness but we're too proud
to take the blame for something that's our fault. Instead we blame some
other group or organization.
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:34 PM
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On Apr 27, 9:55 am, Cheese <nos...@cheesensweets.com> wrote:
> alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>> You know from what I have seen in my aunt's house. I have to agree
> > with you, and the big problem is the media & entertainment industry. I
> > no longer have cable to my home, nor TV. Obesity is a disease and you
> > get it from media.

>
> <snip>
>
> Why does it always have to be someone else's fault? Doesn't anyone
> blame themselves or take responsibility for their own actions anymore?
>
> We blamed smoking on the media too. We forbid the media to advertise
> cigarettes and guess what happened? We still smoke. Maybe it wasn't
> the media after all? Maybe it was our own weakness but we're too proud
> to take the blame for something that's our fault. Instead we blame some
> other group or organization.
> --
>
> Cheese
>
> http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php


I take you are not a big fan of science. Some links and quotes why TV
should be removed from a our house specially those who are trying to
lose weight.

Television, Diet and Advertising:
Why Watching TV Makes You Fat
by Ron Kaufman

"In 1999, an estimated 61 percent of U.S. adults were overweight,
along with 13 percent of children and adolescents. Only 3 percent of
all Americans meet at least four of the five federal Food Guide
Pyramid recommendations for the in- take of grains, fruits,
vegetables, dairy products, and meats. And less than one-third of
Americans meet the federal recommendations to engage in at least 30
minutes of moderate physical activity at least five days a week, while
40 percent of adults engage in no leisure-time physical activity at
all."
-- from "The Surgeon General's Call to Action to Prevent and Decrease
Overweight and Obesity," December 2001.

---------------------------------------------

Taming the TV

How you handle television viewing now may make a measurable difference
in how your child will look when she is in her mid-twenties. Kids who
watch more than two hours a day between the ages of 5 and 15 will be
different from their peers more than ten years later, whether or not
they still watch much TV. At age 26 they are more likely to be obese,
out of shape, and to already have high cholesterol, according to a
study by Robert Hancox and colleagues published in the July 17, 2004
Lancet. Childhood TV viewing affecting adult health? How might this
be? Three major ways have been proposed: by replacing hours spent in
active play, by slowing kids' metabolism (especially while they are
watching), and by changing kids' diets. Harvard's Drs. Ludwig and
Gortmaker, in an commentary in the Lancet, explain that of these
possibilities, the evidence is strongest for TV viewing harming health
through changing the diet. Junk foods may be more convenient to eat
while viewing, but the biggest impact on diet comes from the
commercials. Enormous amounts of money are spent enticing kids to eat
foods that are high in calories, fat, sugar, and chemicals - and low
in nutritional value. Each ad that kids see increases the chance that
they will want those products, ask their parents for those products,
and that their parents will buy those products. There is a direct line
between the number of food ads kids see and the number of calories
they eat (and how few fruits and vegetables they eat). And food habits
that start in childhood affect our tastes as adults. As parents we can
reclaim control of our family rooms. The typical American child spends
more than ten times more time watching TV than playing actively. Many
kids spend more time watching TV than spent in school and sports
combined. We can help our kids forever by helping them get at least an
hour of active play every day. We can help them forever by limiting
time spent in front of a screen. And perhaps most importantly, we can
help them by damming the flood of advertisements.

http://www.drgreene.org/body.cfm?id=...=detail&ref=18
---------------------------------

Turn Off the TV to Fight Fat - and ADHD

"Television commercials can affect your child's diet, and in turn, his
learning.


"According to the National Center for Health Statistics, more than one
in five children in the United States are overweight. The problem is
creeping downward on the age scale, threatening even preschoolers. At
the same time, type 2 diabetes - once called adult-onset diabetes - is
affecting children as young as 4, while attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, is also on the rise."

Reference:

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/healthe.../junkfood.html

ttp://www.tvturnoff.org/research.htm

http://content.scholastic.com/browse...le.jsp?id=1441

http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/...place-it-with/

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/healthe.../junkfood.html

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Old 04-27-2007, 07:34 PM
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alishadevochka@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 27, 9:55 am, Cheese <nos...@cheesensweets.com> wrote:
>
>>alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>><snip>> You know from what I have seen in my aunt's house. I have to agree
>>
>>>with you, and the big problem is the media & entertainment industry. I
>>>no longer have cable to my home, nor TV. Obesity is a disease and you
>>>get it from media.

>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Why does it always have to be someone else's fault? Doesn't anyone
>>blame themselves or take responsibility for their own actions anymore?
>>
>>We blamed smoking on the media too. We forbid the media to advertise
>>cigarettes and guess what happened? We still smoke. Maybe it wasn't
>>the media after all? Maybe it was our own weakness but we're too proud
>>to take the blame for something that's our fault. Instead we blame some
>>other group or organization.
>>--
>>
>> Cheese
>>
>>http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php

>
>
> I take you are not a big fan of science. Some links and quotes why TV
> should be removed from a our house specially those who are trying to
> lose weight.
>
> Television, Diet and Advertising:
> Why Watching TV Makes You Fat
> by Ron Kaufman

(SNIP)

Correlation is not Causation. It's too bad since science would be so
easy.


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Old 04-27-2007, 07:34 PM
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On 27 Apr 2007 06:28:18 -0700, alishadevochka@gmail.com wrote:


> When I was child, I used to feel pressured, finished your dinner!
> Only, if I had a strong will back than. I'll never do this to my
> children, never!
>
>


My mother had some kind of thing about making me eat my oatmeal,
which, at the time, I HATED LIKE POISON. She would make me sit at the
table, sometimes for hours or at least it seemed like that.

But I never felt like eating much in the mornings and still don't. I
find that I want to eat a light breakfast, or even a drinkable one,
then later go on to heartier food.

These days, I usually do a quick and light smoothie, with a liquid
base of green tea, some cottage cheese, a little whey protein, flax
meal and blueberries.

I did eventually, some 40 years later, try steel cut oatmeal and
decided THAT I could eat. But I avoided oatmeal in all forms to that
point.



>
> You know from what I have seen in my aunt's house. I have to agree
> with you, and the big problem is the media & entertainment industry. I
> no longer have cable to my home, nor TV. Obesity is a disease and you
> get it from media.
>


I'm not much of a TV watcher myself, I'm a reader and always have
preferred books to the tube. And I ate just as much food as a kind of
mindless thing to do while reading as some people might mindlessly
munch while watching food ads. I don't think, however, that I would
blame books for my obesity...

Media has a part... but it is only a part, just like genetics are only
a part of the problem.


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Old 04-27-2007, 07:34 PM
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:55:43 -0400, Cheese wrote:

> alishadevochka@gmail.com wrote:
> <snip>
>> You know from what I have seen in my aunt's house. I have to agree
>> with you, and the big problem is the media & entertainment industry. I
>> no longer have cable to my home, nor TV. Obesity is a disease and you
>> get it from media.
>>

> <snip>
>
> Why does it always have to be someone else's fault? Doesn't anyone
> blame themselves or take responsibility for their own actions anymore?
>


I guess it's easier to blame some outside influence... but I don't
believe in it. My parents didn't make me fat, my genetics didn't do
it, it was me, putting too much food in my mouth and too much of the
wrong kind of food for too many years. And I knew better, yes, even as
a child, I knew blame well I shouldn't be sneaking chips and stuff.


> We blamed smoking on the media too. We forbid the media to advertise
> cigarettes and guess what happened? We still smoke. Maybe it wasn't
> the media after all? Maybe it was our own weakness but we're too proud
> to take the blame for something that's our fault. Instead we blame some
> other group or organization.



Applause!

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