MSN Money: What if no one were fat?

On Tue, 6 May 2008, Fat Teddy Bear wrote:

> I skinny person weighing only 90 pounds driving an SUV or a Hummer
> will use up more gasoline than a 400 pound fat person driving a Honda
> Civic.

Don't you know? In MSN fantasy land, everyone drives the exact same
car, the economy is totally static, and cost savings affect everyone
equally.

On Wed, 7 May 2008, Hollywood wrote:

> Missing the point. That's apples to oranges. A normal sized person
> and a fat sized person, driving the same car,

But they don't

> the same way,

But they don't

> directly
> off the factory lot, consecutive serial numbers, with the same
> maintenance
> routine,

But they don't

> the fat sized person will use more gas.

Under your above conditions that don't exist in the "real world", I'll
agree. But anyplace out side of Disneyland, more gas would be saved if
the government outlawed SUVs then if there were no fat people. Why don't
someone make an MSN money comentary about that?

> Till then, if you were the obese man who sat ON
> me on the bus yesterday,

ON you? As in he didn't aim his butt properly and it was momentarily on
your thigh, or was he like in your lap the entire trip?

> in Alexandria VA, going to Mark Center, in
> the
> 85* and 90% humidity, you might want to stop worrying about your
> rights long enough to worry about the rights of the squished, crammed
> hot and now sweaty thanks to you people who ride next to you on that
> mass transit.

Yeah. Damn fat people shouldn't be allowed out on public transit...
*rolls eyes*

Fat Teddy Bear <FatTeddyBear@gmail.com> wrote:

> I skinny person weighing only 90 pounds driving an SUV or a Hummer will
> use up more gasoline than a 400 pound fat person driving a Honda Civic.

Pity a 400 pound hippo cant even get into a Civic.

> I use public transportation, so I use up less energy that either one!

Wrong again.

> So, everybody else here can just shut the fuck up!

Nope, you can, as always.

> My question is . . . . . What id there were no Fascist scumbags in this world?

You'd have nothing to whine about, hippo.

On May 7, 2:02*pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fat Teddy Bear <FatTeddyB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I skinny person weighing only 90 pounds driving an SUV or a Hummer will
> > use up more gasoline than a 400 pound fat person driving a Honda Civic.
>
> Pity a 400 pound hippo cant even get into a Civic.
>
Yes they can.

> > I use public transportation, so I use up less energy that either one!
>
> Wrong again.
>
Please substansiate.

> > So, everybody else here can just shut the fuck up!
>
> Nope, you can, as always.
>
So can you.

> > My question is . . . . . What id there were no Fascist scumbags in this world?
>
> You'd have nothing to whine about, hippo.

I'm sure he does.

Ragnar <Ragnarsghost@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Fat Teddy Bear <FatTeddyB...@gmail.com> wrote

>>> I skinny person weighing only 90 pounds driving an SUV or a Hummer will
>>> use up more gasoline than a 400 pound fat person driving a Honda Civic.

>> Pity a 400 pound hippo cant even get into a Civic.

> Yes they can.

No they cant.

>>> I use public transportation, so I use up less energy that either one!

>> Wrong again.

> Please substansiate.

Most obviously when there is just the driver and a couple of passengers in a full sized bus.

>>> So, everybody else here can just shut the fuck up!

>> Nope, you can, as always.

> So can you.

>>> My question is . . . . . What id there were no Fascist scumbags in this world?

>> You'd have nothing to whine about, hippo.

> I'm sure he does.

Rod Speed = quick rapist!

So, why don't you go fuck yourself instead???

Rod Speed, you're a dumb ass!

Yes, there has been a few times when I was the only passenger on the
bus, but that usually doesn't last long.

Then more people get on the bus, and there are times when a bus is
over crowed and people are standing in the isle. Sometime I'm waiting
for a bus and one goes by with the panel on the front flashing FULL
LOAD and it goes on by and I have to wait for another bus.

But, between those rare times when there is only one or two passengers
on the bus, and those times that the bus is over crowed and can't take
on more passengers, it all averages out.

In the real world we have random fluctuations between the extremes.

But in Shirley Skeel's fantasy world, she envisions a world where we
all look alike, all being the same hight and weight, all standing at
attention like rows of pencils, in a world without random
fluctuations.

That is like dumping a box full of dice from a tall building, and
expecting all the dice to come up snake-eyes, or expecting an ice cube
to suddenly appear, floating on top in a pot of boiling water!

That is never going to happen!

Not in a billion years, not in a trillion years, not even in
googleplex raised to the power of googleplex number of years!

So, we will never have a world where no one is fat. There will always
be fat people, thin people, short people, tall people, and people in
between. It's called genetic diversity, and genetic diversity within a
species insures the survival of the species as a whole, contrary to
what you Nazis might think!

She is really asking "What if we were all alike?" and that is what she
would like for us to become, just so she can have a little extra
pocket change, thinking that it would be more economical if we were
all alike, not having to design everything to take individual
differences into account!

Well, if Shirley Skeel want to have more money in her slimy pockets,
then she should just go out and whore for it, and shut the fuck up!

She might as well since she is just another anorexic bimbo slut!

So, you can take that to the bank!

On Wed, 7 May 2008 05:34:05 -0700 (PDT), Hollywood
<maxlharris@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>fat people

Don't confuse fascism with Nazism. There is a big difference.

LV

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When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

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On 7 May 2008 10:37:04 -0000, sid@somewhere.com (Sid) wrote:

>On Tue, 6 May 2008, Fat Teddy Bear <FatTeddyBear@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I skinny person weighing only 90 pounds driving an SUV or a Hummer
>>will use up more gasoline than a 400 pound fat person driving a Honda
>>Civic.
>>
>>I use public transportation, so I use up less energy that either one!
>
>That's because you can't afford a car on your $600 per month welfare check.
>
>>
>>So, everybody else here can just shut the fuck up!
>
>Learn your place, freeloader. Without us taxpaying citizens, you would
>starve.
>
>>
Your place is under the bus.

>>Especially Shirley Skeel who wrote "What if no one were fat?" that
>>Fascist piece of drek!
>
>You parasitic piece of shit!
>
>>
You incestuous mother fucker.

>>My question is . . . . . What id there were no Fascist scumbags in
>>this world?
>
We could all breath a sigh of relief.

>What if there were no more welfare parasites?
>
What if there were no useless pricks like you who think the world owes
them a living?

More people would be smiling, and You not exist.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:58:11 -0700 (PDT), FatTeddyBear@gmail.com
wrote:

>
>
>Somebody should write an article about how much money we would save if
>there was no hatred, prejudice, and bigotry in this world. Just think
>of how much money would be saved if we didn't have any more wars, and
>how much would be saved if we feed all the hungry people in the world,
>because hunger, and lack of resources, often lead to violence and war
>which exacts heavy costs in the number of deaths, and damage to
>civilization.
>
>I grew up knowing about the cost of hatred when I went to school as a
>kid, back in the 1960s. I'm 46 years old now.
>
>And yes, I'm a fat person at only 5 ft 6 in and 400 pounds.
>
>When I was 4 years old, I fell out of a car, and busted my left knee
>on the road, so as a kid, my left leg was crippled up, and I walked
>with a limp, and I could not run, and I was lousy at sports.
>
>My mother taught me how to read and write before I even started
>school, and by the time I was only in the 3rd grade, I was already
>reading at the high school and adult level. When I was 13, I scored
>150 points on a standard IQ test, so going through school should have
>been a breeze for me. Science was my favorite subject, especially
>Astronomy.
>
>But then, back in 1962 I believe, the President's Council on Physical
>Fitness said that Americans were out of shape and that we all needed
>to go on 50 mile hikes, and then, our schools became super gung-ho on
>Physical Education, while cutting back on academics.
>
>In the 4th grade, I was suspended from school because I failed to
>climb a rope in a gymnasium. In the 5th grade I had my first male
>teacher who made my life a living Hell in the PE class. He would
>humiliate me in front of all the other students, and one day he
>punched me in the stomach with a basketball. Then there was another
>time when our class went to the school library. There was this one
>Astronomy book that I wanted to check out, but the teacher would not
>allow me to have that book. When I asked why he let all the other kids
>check out any book they wanted, but not me, he dragged me out of the
>library, out into the hallway, grabbed me by the shoulders, and bashed
>my head up against the corner of a concrete block wall. The following
>year, that teacher was fired and could not get a teaching job anywhere
>else. But for years after that, from the age of 11 years and through
>out my teen ages years, I had dizzy spells and headaches as a result
>of my head injuries.
>
>I suffered a lot of mental and emotional problems, and during my teen
>age years, I gained a lot of weight, and I got fat, weighing about 280
>pounds by the time I was only 17 years old.
>
>In school I was harassed and bullied around by the jocks. I was called
>a "fat sissy boy" because I didn't care for sports, and in high
>school, I wanted nothing to do with the drug scene. I tried to avoid
>anyone who was using drugs, but a couple of pusher keep harassing me,
>trying to get me to try some of their stuff. Then I made a stupid
>mistake. I turned them in, because they wouldn't leave me alone. After
>than, I was harassed even more. In the art class, my oil paintings
>were destroyed, I had books stolen from me, and my life was even
>threatened, so for my own safety, I had to drop out of school. After
>that, I had a total breakdown, mentally and emotionally, and spent
>three weeks in a mental hospital, where I was beatened on a regular
>bases, and one night, I was raped by an older man. I was 17 years old
>at the time, and after I came home from the mental hospital, after the
>effects of the drugs wore off, my weight shot up from 220 pounds to
>around 280 pounds in less than two months!
>
>When I turned 18, I was in no condition mentally and emotionally to
>holed a job, so my mother had to file a claim for disability on my
>behalf, and of course, this was back in 1969 during the Viet Nam war,
>so I had to register for the draft, but the Army reject me because I
>was about 120 pounds overweight. Actually, I was glad for that,
>because it meant that I didn't have to go to Viet Nam and die for a
>country that treated me like a 4th class citizen.
>
>Since I never graduated High School, I took the GED Test, and I scored
>high in it, and got a certificate that is as good as a High School
>Diploma, and from 1975 to 1978 I tried going to Collage where I
>majored in Physics and Astronomy, but I never completed my degree. I
>was under a lot of emotional stress. I made Bs in most of my math
>classes, and I love Trigonometry. For me its' fun, but I couldn't hack
>being under too much stress. I have become emotionally fragile, unable
>to control my emotions, probably due to my head injuries and some
>other factors in my life.
>
>And so, I have been a victim of prejudice and hatred, the same kind of
>bigotry being spouted off by the likes of people like Shirley Skeel,
>who is a slimy green with the lust for money. All she cares about is
>money, and she does not care if human lives are put on the Sacrificial
>Alter of Capitalism and Greed just to save a few bucks.
>
>I'm more interested in saving human lives than saving money!
>
>As for me, being fat has done me no harm, and has actually protected
>me from more serious injuries from beatings I had received in the
>past. But the hatred, just for being different, had taken a far
>greater tole on me than my weight ever could.
>
>Hey, because I'm fat, I actually save more energy. I don't need to
>have my thermostat set so high during the winter months and have my
>home heated at tropical temperatures as thin people do. I'm too fat to
>drive a car, so I use public transportation, thus saving more energy.
>Also, I have a slow metabolism. Normal body temperature is about 98.6
>degrees, while mine averages 96.5 degrees. That usually indicated
>hypothyroid, but I've been checked for that, and the lab results
>always come back negative. I can maintain my weight on fewer calories
>than the average size person, thus saving more on food. It's been said
>that to maintain a weight of 400 pounds, that it would take about 4000
>calories, but I can maintain my weight on just 2500 calories per day.
>
>I know a lot of skinny people, like my younger brother for example:
>who is much taller, and only weighs about 160 pounds, and he eats a
>Hell of a lot more than I do, but he is not anymore active than I am,
>because he is also crippled up and walks with a cane, and he needed to
>use a cane about 10 years before I finally needed one myself. He has
>had surgery done on one of his feet, and he has incurred far more
>medical expenses than I have.
>
>I'm not harming anybody else, but I have been harmed several times
>repeatedly, and it has cost me much. I'm unable to hold a job, not
>because of my weight, but because I'm far less able to cope with
>emotional stress than most people, thanks to all that had happened to
>me, so my earning potential is greatly reduced. I plan to go back to
>working on my oil paintings again, and perhaps I might be able to
>supplement my meager income.
>
>And so, someone should publish an article about the high cost, of
>prejudice, hatred, and bigotry!
>
>I say we need more fat people in this world, and we need to get even
>fatter!
>
>Most of the fat people I have known were very kind and gentle people.
>I only knew a few who were mean or aggressive, but most of us fat
>people are gentle and more docile. We are far less pron to committing
>violent crimes, and fat men have much lower suicide rates than thin
>people.
>
>I hope more and more people become obese, and when every man, woman,
>and child is obese, we will all be too soft and weak to want to fight
>in anymore bloody wars, and we will have to depend more on human
>intelligence to solve our conflicts, and seek more peaceful solutions.
>
>Increasing obesity around the world may one day bring about world
>peace, thus saving even more money.

Say Teddy. If you don't like life as an obese person why don't you
bring your weight down by about 250 pounds.?

Hundreds of thousands before you have made a decision and shed the
excess weight and opened up a new life for themselves.

No one has said that it will be easy. However, it took a long time to
put it on and you will not take it off within a short period of time.

It takes dedication, self discipline and a willingness to follow a
whole new lifestyle. A six month diet is not the answer.

People I know who have quit smoking and lost large amounts of weight
tell me that quitting smoking is the most difficult of the two.

Jan

On May 7, 11:29 pm, Jan wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:58:11 -0700 (PDT), FatTeddyB...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Somebody should write an article about how much money we would save if
> >there was no hatred, prejudice, and bigotry in this world. Just think
> >of how much money would be saved if we didn't have any more wars, and
> >how much would be saved if we feed all the hungry people in the world,
> >because hunger, and lack of resources, often lead to violence and war
> >which exacts heavy costs in the number of deaths, and damage to
> >civilization.
>
> >I grew up knowing about the cost of hatred when I went to school as a
> >kid, back in the 1960s. I'm 56 years old now.

(previous typo corrected. I'm 56, not 46. earlier post was typing
error)

>
> >And yes, I'm a fat person at only 5 ft 6 in and 400 pounds.
>
> >When I was 4 years old, I fell out of a car, and busted my left knee
> >on the road, so as a kid, my left leg was crippled up, and I walked
> >with a limp, and I could not run, and I was lousy at sports.
>
> >My mother taught me how to read and write before I even started
> >school, and by the time I was only in the 3rd grade, I was already
> >reading at the high school and adult level. When I was 13, I scored
> >150 points on a standard IQ test, so going through school should have
> >been a breeze for me. Science was my favorite subject, especially
> >Astronomy.
>
> >But then, back in 1962 I believe, the President's Council on Physical
> >Fitness said that Americans were out of shape and that we all needed
> >to go on 50 mile hikes, and then, our schools became super gung-ho on
> >Physical Education, while cutting back on academics.
>
> >In the 4th grade, I was suspended from school because I failed to
> >climb a rope in a gymnasium. In the 5th grade I had my first male
> >teacher who made my life a living Hell in the PE class. He would
> >humiliate me in front of all the other students, and one day he
> >punched me in the stomach with a basketball. Then there was another
> >time when our class went to the school library. There was this one
> >Astronomy book that I wanted to check out, but the teacher would not
> >allow me to have that book. When I asked why he let all the other kids
> >check out any book they wanted, but not me, he dragged me out of the
> >library, out into the hallway, grabbed me by the shoulders, and bashed
> >my head up against the corner of a concrete block wall. The following
> >year, that teacher was fired and could not get a teaching job anywhere
> >else. But for years after that, from the age of 11 years and through
> >out my teen ages years, I had dizzy spells and headaches as a result
> >of my head injuries.
>
> >I suffered a lot of mental and emotional problems, and during my teen
> >age years, I gained a lot of weight, and I got fat, weighing about 280
> >pounds by the time I was only 17 years old.
>
> >In school I was harassed and bullied around by the jocks. I was called
> >a "fat sissy boy" because I didn't care for sports, and in high
> >school, I wanted nothing to do with the drug scene. I tried to avoid
> >anyone who was using drugs, but a couple of pusher keep harassing me,
> >trying to get me to try some of their stuff. Then I made a stupid
> >mistake. I turned them in, because they wouldn't leave me alone. After
> >than, I was harassed even more. In the art class, my oil paintings
> >were destroyed, I had books stolen from me, and my life was even
> >threatened, so for my own safety, I had to drop out of school. After
> >that, I had a total breakdown, mentally and emotionally, and spent
> >three weeks in a mental hospital, where I was beatened on a regular
> >bases, and one night, I was raped by an older man. I was 17 years old
> >at the time, and after I came home from the mental hospital, after the
> >effects of the drugs wore off, my weight shot up from 220 pounds to
> >around 280 pounds in less than two months!
>
> >When I turned 18, I was in no condition mentally and emotionally to
> >holed a job, so my mother had to file a claim for disability on my
> >behalf, and of course, this was back in 1969 during the Viet Nam war,
> >so I had to register for the draft, but the Army reject me because I
> >was about 120 pounds overweight. Actually, I was glad for that,
> >because it meant that I didn't have to go to Viet Nam and die for a
> >country that treated me like a 4th class citizen.
>
> >Since I never graduated High School, I took the GED Test, and I scored
> >high in it, and got a certificate that is as good as a High School
> >Diploma, and from 1975 to 1978 I tried going to Collage where I
> >majored in Physics and Astronomy, but I never completed my degree. I
> >was under a lot of emotional stress. I made Bs in most of my math
> >classes, and I love Trigonometry. For me its' fun, but I couldn't hack
> >being under too much stress. I have become emotionally fragile, unable
> >to control my emotions, probably due to my head injuries and some
> >other factors in my life.
>
> >And so, I have been a victim of prejudice and hatred, the same kind of
> >bigotry being spouted off by the likes of people like Shirley Skeel,
> >who is a slimy green with the lust for money. All she cares about is
> >money, and she does not care if human lives are put on the Sacrificial
> >Alter of Capitalism and Greed just to save a few bucks.
>
> >I'm more interested in saving human lives than saving money!
>
> >As for me, being fat has done me no harm, and has actually protected
> >me from more serious injuries from beatings I had received in the
> >past. But the hatred, just for being different, had taken a far
> >greater tole on me than my weight ever could.
>
> >Hey, because I'm fat, I actually save more energy. I don't need to
> >have my thermostat set so high during the winter months and have my
> >home heated at tropical temperatures as thin people do. I'm too fat to
> >drive a car, so I use public transportation, thus saving more energy.
> >Also, I have a slow metabolism. Normal body temperature is about 98.6
> >degrees, while mine averages 96.5 degrees. That usually indicated
> >hypothyroid, but I've been checked for that, and the lab results
> >always come back negative. I can maintain my weight on fewer calories
> >than the average size person, thus saving more on food. It's been said
> >that to maintain a weight of 400 pounds, that it would take about 4000
> >calories, but I can maintain my weight on just 2500 calories per day.
>
> >I know a lot of skinny people, like my younger brother for example:
> >who is much taller, and only weighs about 160 pounds, and he eats a
> >Hell of a lot more than I do, but he is not anymore active than I am,
> >because he is also crippled up and walks with a cane, and he needed to
> >use a cane about 10 years before I finally needed one myself. He has
> >had surgery done on one of his feet, and he has incurred far more
> >medical expenses than I have.
>
> >I'm not harming anybody else, but I have been harmed several times
> >repeatedly, and it has cost me much. I'm unable to hold a job, not
> >because of my weight, but because I'm far less able to cope with
> >emotional stress than most people, thanks to all that had happened to
> >me, so my earning potential is greatly reduced. I plan to go back to
> >working on my oil paintings again, and perhaps I might be able to
> >supplement my meager income.
>
> >And so, someone should publish an article about the high cost, of
> >prejudice, hatred, and bigotry!
>
> >I say we need more fat people in this world, and we need to get even
> >fatter!
>
> >Most of the fat people I have known were very kind and gentle people.
> >I only knew a few who were mean or aggressive, but most of us fat
> >people are gentle and more docile. We are far less pron to committing
> >violent crimes, and fat men have much lower suicide rates than thin
> >people.
>
> >I hope more and more people become obese, and when every man, woman,
> >and child is obese, we will all be too soft and weak to want to fight
> >in anymore bloody wars, and we will have to depend more on human
> >intelligence to solve our conflicts, and seek more peaceful solutions.
>
> >Increasing obesity around the world may one day bring about world
> >peace, thus saving even more money.
>
> Say Teddy. If you don't like life as an obese person why don't you
> bring your weight down by about 250 pounds.?
>
> Hundreds of thousands before you have made a decision and shed the
> excess weight and opened up a new life for themselves.
>
> No one has said that it will be easy. However, it took a long time to
> put it on and you will not take it off within a short period of time.
>
> It takes dedication, self discipline and a willingness to follow a
> whole new lifestyle. A six month diet is not the answer.
>
> People I know who have quit smoking and lost large amounts of weight
> tell me that quitting smoking is the most difficult of the two.
>
> Jan

AND THE FARMER HAULED ANOTHER LOAD AWAY!!!

Oh please! I've heard that tired old Cliche' over and over again. It's
been done to death!

Like, who pulled your string?

My weight is not the issue here!

What is at issue is the media propaganda of mindless conformism being
shoved down our throats on a daily bases. They want us all be be
alike. God forbid that anyone should be different!

You assume that I don't like being fat, that I would be happier if I
have a 32 inch waist.

No! The problems I had growing up as a kid, going to school, etc. etc.
all started before I got fat. I was 13 when I started gaining a lot of
weight. Before then, I was of average weight for my height and age.

OK! So now, some people hate my guts because I'm fat!

Like, big fuckin' hairy deal! I was hated before I got fat.

In school, I was hated because I was lousy at sports, being made fun
of because I couldn't run. But that was due to a knee injury I had
when I fell out of a car, so I always walked with a limp.

I was hated, by ignorant people, just for being different!

Shirley Skeel in not merely asking "What if no one was fat?" what she
is REALLY asking is, what if we were all alike?

Yeah, clothing might be cheaper if we all wore the same exact size. A
lot of things would be cheaper if we were all the same exact size, but
it would be a very dull and uninteresting world if we were all exactly
alike.

I didn't like sports, I preferred studying Astronomy instead. But in
school, they tried to enforce mindless conformism on us. Back when my
parents went to school, it was the same. My mother was left-handed,
and she had this one teacher who smacked her on the back of her left
hand with the hard metal edge of a wooden ruler, so she learned to
write with her right hand instead. After that, her handwriting sucked.
She wanted to be an artist, but her school diverted her along a
different path.

I wanted to study Astronomy, but I got my head bashed against brick
wall. I was unable to get a decent education in our oh so wonderful
educational system. I'm also left-handed, but when I want to school,
we weren't forced to switch hands, so perhaps they knew better than
they did when my parents went to school.

But now, they really weren't more enlightened. Not at all. When I was
in school, we all had to be good at sports, so they just traded in one
old stupidity for a new stupidity. So, whenever we overcome old
prejudices, we just invent new prejudices to take their place.

I have always been a nonconformist. Nothing wrong with that, because
it's the nonconformist who brings about changes in this world. When I
went to a public library, I was able to check out any book I wanted. I
read about Galileo. He was a non conformist. Back when every one
believed that the sun and planets revolved around the earth, he knew
differently, that it was the earth and planets that revolved around
the sun.

Humanity need nonconformists, otherwise we would still be living in
caves, banging two rocks together to make fire, and going ugga! ugga!
uggs! or some shit like that!

So, this isn't about me having a 32 inch waist, but rather, my right
to exist as a unique individual regardless of my size and weight!
Somehow, I don't believe that having a 32 inch waist is going to
magically transform my live, as some many people are being led to
believe by the mass media.

The average home has two washing machines.

One for washing clothes, and one for washing brains!

The second washing machine is in the living room and it's operated
with a remote control, and you just sit there and stare at it,
drooling like a mindless zombie.

It's called a TV!

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:52:23 -0700 (PDT), FatTeddyBear@gmail.com
wrote:


>I hope more and more people become obese, and when every man, woman,
>and child is obese, we will all be too soft and weak to want to fight
>in anymore bloody wars, and we will have to depend more on human
>intelligence to solve our conflicts, and seek more peaceful solutions.
>
>Increasing obesity around the world may one day bring about world
>peace, thus saving even more money.

You better be careful what you wish for, Teddy.
If everyone were morbidly obese who would left to be working and
paying the taxes that provide you with your $600 a month freebie.

Who would repair the streets, who would build houses. who would work
in the factories, who would build and repair our vehicles, who would
operate the utility companies, who would mine the coal, who would grow
the food. Who would be delivering the pizza to your house? Do you
think, for a moment, that folks like you would be doing these jobs?

As for that $600 per month that you get for doing nothing and then
scoff at. Do you realize that many people toil hard all week for less
than $600 and are pleased to have their jobs.

You believe that you are treated unfairly because you are morbidly
obese. You can do something about your obesity. How about a very
short person, how about an extremely unattractive person. how about a
person with a disfiguring dermatological condition? You, Teddy Bear,
are all hung up on yourself. Time for you to start counting your
blessings and perhaps send a thank you note to the folks working at
the SSI office.

Have you ever considered sending in a "Letter to the Editor" to be
printed in the newspaper thanking all the people who go to work
everyday and pay taxes while you sit at home in front of your computer
complaining and whining.?

Jeremy
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On May 8, 5:06 pm, Jeremy <Jerem...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:52:23 -0700 (PDT), FatTeddyB...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >I hope more and more people become obese, and when every man, woman,
> >and child is obese, we will all be too soft and weak to want to fight
> >in anymore bloody wars, and we will have to depend more on human
> >intelligence to solve our conflicts, and seek more peaceful solutions.
>
> >Increasing obesity around the world may one day bring about world
> >peace, thus saving even more money.
>
> You better be careful what you wish for, Teddy.
> If everyone were morbidly obese who would left to be working and
> paying the taxes that provide you with your $600 a month freebie.
>
> Who would repair the streets, who would build houses. who would work
> in the factories, who would build and repair our vehicles, who would
> operate the utility companies, who would mine the coal, who would grow
> the food. Who would be delivering the pizza to your house? Do you
> think, for a moment, that folks like you would be doing these jobs?
>
> As for that $600 per month that you get for doing nothing and then
> scoff at. Do you realize that many people toil hard all week for less
> than $600 and are pleased to have their jobs.
>
> You believe that you are treated unfairly because you are morbidly
> obese. You can do something about your obesity. How about a very
> short person, how about an extremely unattractive person. how about a
> person with a disfiguring dermatological condition? You, Teddy Bear,
> are all hung up on yourself. Time for you to start counting your
> blessings and perhaps send a thank you note to the folks working at
> the SSI office.
>
> Have you ever considered sending in a "Letter to the Editor" to be
> printed in the newspaper thanking all the people who go to work
> everyday and pay taxes while you sit at home in front of your computer
> complaining and whining.?
>
> Jeremy
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

OK! I was just kidding about that part! OK?

No, I really don't wish that everybody were fat like me. I know that
is just as unrealistic as Shirley Skeel wishing that everybody were
thin.

So, I was just being sarcastic. But I guess you're not intelligent
enough to recognize satire. You probably believe that Mad Magazine is
real!

But the rest of what I'm saying is not satire.

All I'm saying is that we can not all be alike, nor would I want to
live in a world where everybody was alike.

There will always be fat people, thin people, and people in between.

Hey! How come almost everybody here complains about my measly little
$600 dollar monthly check when almost nobody complains about the
rapist moronic monkey boy who gets millions of dollars just for
chasing a ball?

I was beaten and battered around by a monkey-boy, and he was the one
who should have been expelled from school, and not me!

In our schools, as you enter the lobby, what is the first thing you
see?

You will see a glass display case, with all kids of nice shinny
football trophies to honor all of the monkey-boys!

But for all the students on the A Honor Role, all they get is a sheet
of paper tacked up on the bulletin board with their names on it, and
eventually it disappears, or it's covered up with announcements for
the next sporting event, or some other shit!

I believe that students on the A Honer Role should have their names
engraved on a nice shinny bronze plaque, nothing really fancy, but
something that looks dignified. They deserve some recognition. Do they
not?

OH! Just think of my measly little $600 dollar monthly check as my
retirement pension for the years I worked (involuntarily I might add)
being a human punching bag and a tacklin dummy for the jocks to
practice on in school!

While I was on "the job" I was not paid for it, so I was actually
their slave!

Gee wiz! I thought slavery was abolished after The Civil War.

But most student are not awar of that, since most high school students
today can't even read and write beyond the 3rd grade level anymore!

Oh! By the way, I did not come from a welfare family.My parents were
factory workers.

They bought a house, and paid property taxes on the house, and they
paid school taxes. Their tax dollars paid for the Astronomy books I
was not allowed to read. Their tax dollars paid the salary of the
teacher who bashed my head up against a concreted block wall in an
argument that I had with him over a book he would not allow me to
check out from the library. Their tax dollars paid the salary of the
PE coach who had me suspend for failure to climb a stupid rope that I
was unable to climb because of my knee injury.

So, the only thing my parents got back for their tax dollars is the
SSI Disability Check I get every month. My mother helped me to apply
for it when I turned 18. That's my early retirement pension!

So, suck on the Bimbo!

If you want to hear a louder jingle in your pocket, then go out and
whore for it!

Else, shut the fuck up!

On Thu, 8 May 2008, Fat Teddy Bear wrote:

> No, I really don't wish that everybody were fat like me. I know that
> is just as unrealistic as Shirley Skeel wishing that everybody were
> thin.

There is an idealized view of people. Must be this height, this weight,
this religion, etc. If you aren't that, by God you should be. If you
don't want to be that, there is something wrong with you. If you are
that, it is your job to piss off, annoy, and otherwise be an asshole,
until others realize just how right you are and convert.

That is the troll thought process, and there is nothing more annoying then
a troll who writes for what some consider a legitimate web site.

On May 9, 7:43 am, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Fat Teddy Bear wrote:
> > No, I really don't wish that everybody were fat like me. I know that
> > is just as unrealistic as Shirley Skeel wishing that everybody were
> > thin.
>
> There is an idealized view of people. Must be this height, this weight,
> this religion, etc. If you aren't that, by God you should be. If you
> don't want to be that, there is something wrong with you. If you are
> that, it is your job to piss off, annoy, and otherwise be an asshole,
> until others realize just how right you are and convert.
>
> That is the troll thought process, and there is nothing more annoying then
> a troll who writes for what some consider a legitimate web site.

Well, I guess MSN Money is a regular "legitmate" web site, and Shirley
Skeel, being a Journalist, she thinks that she is some kind of medical
"expert" who has a right to set standards by which we must all
conform.

YEAH RIGHT!!!

Like, who died and made her God???

Nobody has a right to force they're standards of conformity on
everybody else.

We are all different. We are all unique individuals that have a right
to exist, even the morons here whom I tell to "eat shit and die" they
have a right to exist as well, and I have a right to call them morons,
and to tell them to drop dead, or at least fuck off.

The morons have a right to their opinions, and I have a right to my
opinion, and calling them morons.

I also should have been granted a right to get a decent education in
school, because it is what my parents paid for when they paid property
taxes and school taxes.

I had a right to check out Astronomy books from the school library,
because my parents tax money paid for those books.

I have a right to complete my oil paintings in my art class, without
having them destroyed, especially since I bought my own art supplies.

And yes, jocks do have a right to be jocks and to play football. But
they do not have a right to beat up on other students and bully them
around. Nobody has that right!

That is called assault and battery, and for that, you get to go to
jail.

There is no law that says that we all need to be alike, that we must
all like the same things, that we must all look alike, and think
alike. There is no such law written down in the statute books.

The Nazis tried to make such laws, and look where it got them!

Shirley Skeel is a Fascist Nazi bitch and a scumbag piece of dog shit!

Yes, she had a right to publish her article, freedom of speech, and
all that.

And I have a right to disagree with what she says and call her out on
it.

So, I get to call her a bitch!!!

Good lord. This writer is dumb as a bag of rocks!

If we want to save over $400 billion I can think of lots of way to
save it:

1) Get the bleep out of Iraq and quit subsidizing the military
industrial complex.

2) Update the CAFE standards (Corporate Average Fuel Economy). We
aren't using too much fuel because people are fat. We're using too
much fuel because Detroit won't get its head out of its butt and make
more fuel efficient cars. But I figure they're in cohoots with Big
Oil anyway. The higher the price of oil, the more the oil companies
can mark it up.

3) Provide universal health care like the rest of the developed
world. America pays the most per capita for their health insurance,
but we get the worst care and have over 40 million uninsured. If
people were able to get the care they need BEFORE their need is
critical, they wouldn't have to use emergency rooms like they were
family clinics. People would be screened for blood sugar problems,
blood pressure problems, high cholesterol, colon cancer, etc. on a
regular basis, thus dealing with those health issues BEFORE they cause
complications or become advanced.

4) If everyone was at a healthy weight, they would look better and
would likely spend MORE on clothes, not less. It's a lot more fun to
buy jeans in a size 8 than a size 18.

5) The government should quit subsidizing feed crops and crap like
high fructose corn syrup. Cattle are meant to graze, not eat corn.
Chickens are meant to be pastured, allowing them to eat a variety of
things like insects, worms, etc. They are not meant to be squashed in
a cage where they can't even raise one wing, never feeling the sun on
their face. Government farm subsidies do absolutely nothing to help
small family farms. They actually hurt them by keeping prices
artificially low.

Yes, I think we would be much better off if we were all at a healthy
weight, not smoking and not drinking to excess. However, the writer
has not addressed WHY those problems exist. She's just blamed it all
on the people who are overweight. Let's not kid ourselves. Obesity
and its treatment are big business. People make money from it and
they aren't going to want to give that money up.

On Apr 28, 7:38*pm, ma...@nothing.org (Marge) wrote:
> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...hatIfNoOneWere...
>
> What if no one were fat?
> Imagine a lean and healthy America: The savings on medical, fuel, food and
> other costs would be enough to give every U.S. household more than $4,000.
>
> By Shirley Skeel
> Editor's note: This is part of an occasional series on financial what-ifs.
>
> In the United States today, 66% of adults are overweight. Almost 33% of
> adults are obese, and 4.7% are morbidly obese, or more than 100 pounds
> overweight. But . . .
>
> What if nobody in America were fat?
>
> We'd save billions of dollars in gas. Airlines would double their profits.
> A dearth of diabetes and other diseases would save billions of dollars more
> -- and put thousands of doctors on the street. McDonald's would sell not
> Big Macs but little steamed chicken snacks -- or watch its profits melt
> away. Productivity would rise, potentially creating tens of thousands more
> jobs or higher wages all around.
>
> Add up the savings up on health, food, clothing and efficiencies, and you
> could buy a professional home gym for every U.S. household -- or hand each
> $4,270 in cash.
>
> $487 billion in gas, sweat and stretch pants
> Yes, it sounds a little wild, but the implications of a leaner, meaner
> country add up to a weighty $487 billion. That's almost 3.5% of gross
> domestic product, no small sum.
>
> Mind you, only 1.8% of that is new growth. The rest is a radical shift in
> resources, away from the needs of our bigger citizens to . . . well,
> whatever we and our overlords would spend these extra billions on.
>
> First, let's put the meat on that $487 billion. The estimates below assume
> the average American adult is at least 20 pounds overweight, a figure
> nutritionists see as fair.
>
> Savings on fuel for cars and airlines due to their lighter loads would top
> $5 billion, according to industry studies. Researchers say each overweight
> driver burns about 18 additional gallons of gas a year, or just under a
> billion gallons altogether. Savings in the air are far greater: The
> jet-fuel savings alone could double North American airlines' forecast 2008
> profits to $3.8 billion and maybe persuade them to stop stranding
> passengers because they can't afford the fuel for flights. As for oil
> imports, they'd be dented by less than 1%.
>
> Plus-sized clothing costs 10% to 15% more, so shoppers would save $10
> billion on shirts, pants and dresses. And clothes might fit better too.
> Cynthia Istook, an associate professor in textile apparel at North Carolina
> State University, says the economies of making fewer sizes would be
> tremendous. Clothing makers could then afford to offer more variety in hip
> and bust sizes, rather than asking every woman to squeeze into an hourglass
> shape.
>
> Because 3,500 calories translates into a pound of fat, somewhere along the
> way, America's 227 million adults have eaten 16 trillion calories too many..
> That's 14 billion Big Mac meals, with fries and a soda. Eliminate those and
> you wipe out $81 billion, or McDonald's past four years of sales.
>
> If Americans were slim and maintained their weight by eating 150 fewer
> calories a day (half a slice of pizza), that could snip roughly 6.5%, or
> $20 billion a year, off U.S. farmers' sales (assuming no extra exports).
> Bob Young, the American Farm Bureau's chief economist, says farmers would
> cope. They'd switch some land from fattening seed oils and sugar beets to
> fruits and vegetables. Or they might grow corn for ethanol, or even open a
> hunting resort.
>
> The medical costs of obesity-related problems such as diabetes, stroke and
> heart disease run near $140 billion, or more than 6% of all health-care
> costs. That ballpark figure was calculated by Joel Cohen, an economic
> researcher for the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, using data
> from a 1998 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study. Cohen reckons
> that if no one were fat, medical insurance costs would fall -- to
> everyone's delight -- and doctors and drug makers could do more preventive
> care. That sounds good, but Roland Sturm, a senior economist for Rand in
> Santa Monica, Calif., doubts anyone would pay for preventive care. More
> likely, he says, some doctors would be on the street. "They could drive
> cabs," he suggests.
>
> Productivity in the workplace would jump as people took fewer sick days and
> spent less time at work feeling unwell. Ross DeVol, the director of health
> economics at the Milken Institute, says the loss of productivity due to
> people showing up at work sick is "immense." Using a recent Milken report
> on the subject, he calculates that if no one were obese, the added output
> from workers and their caregivers would give the country a $257 billion
> boost. That's 1.8% of GDP, enough extra output to allow businesses to hire
> tens of thousands more workers or to raise wages, economists say. Or at
> least, that's the theory. Given bosses' love of expanding their profits and
> their own pay, you can count on some of this being spirited away. Just look
> at 2000 to 2005, when worker productivity rose 16.6% while median wages
> rose less than half that amount.
>
> "Jenny Craig would be very unhappy" if everyone were slim, says Rand's
> Sturm. And so she would, along with the rest of the $55 billion weight-loss
> industry. Trimmed-down citizens would be swapping their diet pills for
> bikinis and their gastric-banding for nose jobs.
>
> What to do with all that money?
> On top of these savings would be billions of dollars more. Manufacturers
> and builders wouldn't have to make doorways bigger, car seats wider,
> furniture stouter. Some even argue that global warming would slow a mite,
> as consumption of gas, energy, fertilizer and methane-producing cattle
> decreased.
>
> Even without those extras, the $487 billion reshuffle of the economy would
> put us on the spot. Exactly how would we spend all this freed-up cash?
> Optimists sing about improving education or medical research. Others figure
> we'd fritter away the money.

On Fri, 9 May 2008, Paula57@yahoo.com wrote:

> 3) Provide universal health care like the rest of the developed
> world.

I would be willing to accept that provided the European model is used to
pattern the US system after. Hillary's original plan back when Bill
Clinton was President didn't do this.

> 5) The government should quit subsidizing feed crops and crap like
> high fructose corn syrup. Cattle are meant to graze, not eat corn.
> Chickens are meant to be pastured, allowing them to eat a variety of
> things like insects, worms, etc. They are not meant to be squashed in
> a cage where they can't even raise one wing, never feeling the sun on
> their face. Government farm subsidies do absolutely nothing to help
> small family farms. They actually hurt them by keeping prices
> artificially low.

That's the "organic" food push actually. For an animal based food product
to be called "organic", it must be raised exactly as you said. Even the
use of precut hay is against the "organic" rule.

On May 9, 12:47 pm, "Paul...@yahoo.com" <Paul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good lord. This writer is dumb as a bag of rocks!
>
> If we want to save over $400 billion I can think of lots of way to
> save it:
>
> 1) Get the bleep out of Iraq and quit subsidizing the military
> industrial complex.
>
> 2) Update the CAFE standards (Corporate Average Fuel Economy). We
> aren't using too much fuel because people are fat. We're using too
> much fuel because Detroit won't get its head out of its butt and make
> more fuel efficient cars. But I figure they're in cohoots with Big
> Oil anyway. The higher the price of oil, the more the oil companies
> can mark it up.
>
> 3) Provide universal health care like the rest of the developed
> world. America pays the most per capita for their health insurance,
> but we get the worst care and have over 40 million uninsured. If
> people were able to get the care they need BEFORE their need is
> critical, they wouldn't have to use emergency rooms like they were
> family clinics. People would be screened for blood sugar problems,
> blood pressure problems, high cholesterol, colon cancer, etc. on a
> regular basis, thus dealing with those health issues BEFORE they cause
> complications or become advanced.
>
> 4) If everyone was at a healthy weight, they would look better and
> would likely spend MORE on clothes, not less. It's a lot more fun to
> buy jeans in a size 8 than a size 18.
>
> 5) The government should quit subsidizing feed crops and crap like
> high fructose corn syrup. Cattle are meant to graze, not eat corn.
> Chickens are meant to be pastured, allowing them to eat a variety of
> things like insects, worms, etc. They are not meant to be squashed in
> a cage where they can't even raise one wing, never feeling the sun on
> their face. Government farm subsidies do absolutely nothing to help
> small family farms. They actually hurt them by keeping prices
> artificially low.
>
> Yes, I think we would be much better off if we were all at a healthy
> weight, not smoking and not drinking to excess. However, the writer
> has not addressed WHY those problems exist. She's just blamed it all
> on the people who are overweight. Let's not kid ourselves. Obesity
> and its treatment are big business. People make money from it and
> they aren't going to want to give that money up.
>
> On Apr 28, 7:38 pm, ma...@nothing.org (Marge) wrote:
>
> >http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...hatIfNoOneWere...
>
> > What if no one were fat?
> > Imagine a lean and healthy America: The savings on medical, fuel, food and
> > other costs would be enough to give every U.S. household more than $4,000.
>
> > By Shirley Skeel
> > Editor's note: This is part of an occasional series on financial what-ifs.
>
> > In the United States today, 66% of adults are overweight. Almost 33% of
> > adults are obese, and 4.7% are morbidly obese, or more than 100 pounds
> > overweight. But . . .
>
> > What if nobody in America were fat?
>
> > We'd save billions of dollars in gas. Airlines would double their profits.
> > A dearth of diabetes and other diseases would save billions of dollars more
> > -- and put thousands of doctors on the street. McDonald's would sell not
> > Big Macs but little steamed chicken snacks -- or watch its profits melt
> > away. Productivity would rise, potentially creating tens of thousands more
> > jobs or higher wages all around.
>
> > Add up the savings up on health, food, clothing and efficiencies, and you
> > could buy a professional home gym for every U.S. household -- or hand each
> > $4,270 in cash.
>
> > $487 billion in gas, sweat and stretch pants
> > Yes, it sounds a little wild, but the implications of a leaner, meaner
> > country add up to a weighty $487 billion. That's almost 3.5% of gross
> > domestic product, no small sum.
>
> > Mind you, only 1.8% of that is new growth. The rest is a radical shift in
> > resources, away from the needs of our bigger citizens to . . . well,
> > whatever we and our overlords would spend these extra billions on.
>
> > First, let's put the meat on that $487 billion. The estimates below assume
> > the average American adult is at least 20 pounds overweight, a figure
> > nutritionists see as fair.
>
> > Savings on fuel for cars and airlines due to their lighter loads would top
> > $5 billion, according to industry studies. Researchers say each overweight
> > driver burns about 18 additional gallons of gas a year, or just under a
> > billion gallons altogether. Savings in the air are far greater: The
> > jet-fuel savings alone could double North American airlines' forecast 2008
> > profits to $3.8 billion and maybe persuade them to stop stranding
> > passengers because they can't afford the fuel for flights. As for oil
> > imports, they'd be dented by less than 1%.
>
> > Plus-sized clothing costs 10% to 15% more, so shoppers would save $10
> > billion on shirts, pants and dresses. And clothes might fit better too.
> > Cynthia Istook, an associate professor in textile apparel at North Carolina
> > State University, says the economies of making fewer sizes would be
> > tremendous. Clothing makers could then afford to offer more variety in hip
> > and bust sizes, rather than asking every woman to squeeze into an hourglass
> > shape.
>
> > Because 3,500 calories translates into a pound of fat, somewhere along the
> > way, America's 227 million adults have eaten 16 trillion calories too many.
> > That's 14 billion Big Mac meals, with fries and a soda. Eliminate those and
> > you wipe out $81 billion, or McDonald's past four years of sales.
>
> > If Americans were slim and maintained their weight by eating 150 fewer
> > calories a day (half a slice of pizza), that could snip roughly 6.5%, or
> > $20 billion a year, off U.S. farmers' sales (assuming no extra exports).
> > Bob Young, the American Farm Bureau's chief economist, says farmers would
> > cope. They'd switch some land from fattening seed oils and sugar beets to
> > fruits and vegetables. Or they might grow corn for ethanol, or even open a
> > hunting resort.
>
> > The medical costs of obesity-related problems such as diabetes, stroke and
> > heart disease run near $140 billion, or more than 6% of all health-care
> > costs. That ballpark figure was calculated by Joel Cohen, an economic
> > researcher for the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, using data
> > from a 1998 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study. Cohen reckons
> > that if no one were fat, medical insurance costs would fall -- to
> > everyone's delight -- and doctors and drug makers could do more preventive
> > care. That sounds good, but Roland Sturm, a senior economist for Rand in
> > Santa Monica, Calif., doubts anyone would pay for preventive care. More
> > likely, he says, some doctors would be on the street. "They could drive
> > cabs," he suggests.
>
> > Productivity in the workplace would jump as people took fewer sick days and
> > spent less time at work feeling unwell. Ross DeVol, the director of health
> > economics at the Milken Institute, says the loss of productivity due to
> > people showing up at work sick is "immense." Using a recent Milken report
> > on the subject, he calculates that if no one were obese, the added output
> > from workers and their caregivers would give the country a $257 billion
> > boost. That's 1.8% of GDP, enough extra output to allow businesses to hire
> > tens of thousands more workers or to raise wages, economists say. Or at
> > least, that's the theory. Given bosses' love of expanding their profits and
> > their own pay, you can count on some of this being spirited away. Just look
> > at 2000 to 2005, when worker productivity rose 16.6% while median wages
> > rose less than half that amount.
>
> > "Jenny Craig would be very unhappy" if everyone were slim, says Rand's
> > Sturm. And so she would, along with the rest of the $55 billion weight-loss
> > industry. Trimmed-down citizens would be swapping their diet pills for
> > bikinis and their gastric-banding for nose jobs.
>
> > What to do with all that money?
> > On top of these savings would be billions of dollars more. Manufacturers
> > and builders wouldn't have to make doorways bigger, car seats wider,
> > furniture stouter. Some even argue that global warming would slow a mite,
> > as consumption of gas, energy, fertilizer and methane-producing cattle
> > decreased.
>
> > Even without those extras, the $487 billion reshuffle of the economy would
> > put us on the spot. Exactly how would we spend all this freed-up cash?
> > Optimists sing about improving education or medical research. Others figure
> > we'd fritter away the money.

Good afternoon Paula.

I'm so glad that there are at least a couple of intelligent people
here like you, and The Master.

But instead, I would say that Shirley Skeel is as dumb as a box of
hammers, or not the sharpest knife in the drawer, having the IQ of a
steam iron, or that she's a houseplant.

You need to use more colorful euphemisms.

Also, instead of saying we should get the bleep out of Iraq, I say, we
should get the fucking Hell out of Iraq, as in, hit the road Jack, or
take a train!

OK, all kidding aside . . . . .

Excellent post! It shows intelligence.

However I have to disagree when you say "It's a lot more fun to buy
jeans in a size 8 than a size 18." because we are not all going to be
the same size, and how do we define healthy weight. It's possible to
be in good health at over 300 pound or be sick and unhealthy at 120
pounds.

I don't believe that I have to get down to a 32 inch waist in order to
be healthy. Most of my relatives were obese, and lived into their 80s
while my mother who was only slightly overweight in her 40s and 50s
and became thin during her 60s and only lived to the age of 72.

I'm fat, weighing 400 pounds, but my blood pressure is normal. Last
time I had it checked it was 108/64 and in my last labe tests my total
cholesterol was 105 and my triglycerieds were only 90.

Naturally, I don't eat a lot of junk foods, and I prefer to do my own
cooking instead of eating out. I very seldom have red meat, I don't
eat pork, and I actually prefer fish more than meat, and I enjoy
having vegetables with my meals and lots of fresh fruit for desert,
and every other day I go out walking for a half hour.

So, I don't just sit around all day eating Bon Bons and Ho Hos and
twinkies. I don't even like twinkies! Give me a bunch of seedless
black grapes anytime.

Anyway, there has always been fat people in this world, and there
always will be. We are not going to go away.

Also, I happen to like larger women who are nice and plump with soft
round curves. No one is going to dictate to me what I should like or
not like, especially not that puke-breath anorexic bimbo, Shirley
Skeel.

On May 9, 2:19 pm, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2008, Paul...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > 3) Provide universal health care like the rest of the developed
> > world.
>
> I would be willing to accept that provided the European model is used to
> pattern the US system after. Hillary's original plan back when Bill
> Clinton was President didn't do this.
>
> > 5) The government should quit subsidizing feed crops and crap like
> > high fructose corn syrup. Cattle are meant to graze, not eat corn.
> > Chickens are meant to be pastured, allowing them to eat a variety of
> > things like insects, worms, etc. They are not meant to be squashed in
> > a cage where they can't even raise one wing, never feeling the sun on
> > their face. Government farm subsidies do absolutely nothing to help
> > small family farms. They actually hurt them by keeping prices
> > artificially low.
>
> That's the "organic" food push actually. For an animal based food product
> to be called "organic", it must be raised exactly as you said. Even the
> use of precut hay is against the "organic" rule.

I've love to see our health care system converted to the European
model. Having worked for both small and big businesses, I can
guarantee you that most employers would LOVE to not have to deal with
the whole health insurance issue. Why should your health insurance
have anything to do with where you work? Yes, it will probably cost
us an initial investment of many billions of dollars, but look at the
payoff! Millions of people staying healthy enough to work who would
otherwise sink into disability and poverty. Millions of babies born
healthy because their mothers received good prenatal care and good
nutrition, instead of millons being born premature and/or low birth
weight with preventable defects and disabilities. And the list goes
on.

I agree with you about organic food. I actually work for Whole Foods
Market, the biggest organic/natural grocer in the US. i realize that
these changes can't be made overnight, but the more we more towards
local, natural (no artificial ingredients, antibiotics or hormones)
and true organic, I think the better off we'll all be; those of us who
eat the food and the farmers and ranchers who provide it. I subscribe
to Michael Pollan's philosophy of "Eat real food, not too much, mostly
plants". He wrote "The Omnivore's Dilema" - great book. The thing
that's funny to me is that the people who say that organic is just a
trend don't seem to realize that until after WWII, all food was
organic. The fertilizers made by the petrochemical industry were
developed to us the chemicals that had previously been used to make
BOMBS. 40% of all produce eaten in the US was grown in home gardens -
FORTY PERCENT!

Of course, with the agribusiness subsidies that we have now, we can
get fatty, hormone and antibiotic laden hamburger for $2/lb. We can
get Kraft Macaroni and Cheese for $1 a box, and tasteless tomatoes
that are red because they've been sprayed with a gas instead of
ripening naturally, transported over hundreds or even thousands of
miles. OY!

"Hollywood" <maxlharris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:51a1b649-dd13-41cf-b034-c2b9c7eaaa67@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Have no idea.

That sums it up.