Needing advice on weight loss. Would really appreciate it.

Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
appreciate it.

Here's what I need advice on:

I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
May.

I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.

I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
snacks too that I can't resist.

Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.

So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
told this is a reasonable goal.

I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
the time that I want.

Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
time to achieve the results I want.

Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
what you think of my proposed next step?

Thanks a bunch!

[Jojo]

Cardio genrally "burns" fat better than weight training so if you feel like it, try replacing some weight training with more cardio. Don't skip breakfast and don't eat too few calories, doing that might be one reason why you feel like gorging or indulging in those fatty snacks. Ask your mom to support you and get rid of her snacks when you visit, or at least hide them away out of sight.

Don't look for radical solutions, eat from a balanced diet let it take the time it needs and stay healthy. Restricting your normal diet by about 1000 calories a day will have you losing about 2 pounds a week which I would say is a healthy rate.

Good luck.

On Aug 16, 8:10 pm, Shauhnathan <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
> of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
> appreciate it.
>
> Here's what I need advice on:
>
> I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
> always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
> on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
> ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
> May.
>
> I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
> This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
> year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
> times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
> weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
> about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
> about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
> done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>
> I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
> consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
> tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
> and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
> don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
> out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
> my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
> I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
> out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
> house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
> snacks too that I can't resist.
>
> Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
> cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>
> So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
> to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
> lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
> at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
> frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
> fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
> clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
> before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
> 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
> I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
> told this is a reasonable goal.
>
> I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
> clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
> These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
> also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
> help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
> still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
> This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
> the time that I want.
>
> Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
> from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
> time to achieve the results I want.
>
> Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
> what you think of my proposed next step?
>
> Thanks a bunch!

The short answer is that you eat too much. Since the body is such an
efficient machine, it is very difficult to lose significant weight
from increasing your exercise level. You might have to spend 30 min.
on a treadmill to get rid of one bite of a fatty food, for example.
Calorie control is the key.

If some days you only eat 1,000 calories, other days you must be
eating 4,000 or more. My guess is that given your size and active
lifestyle, you probably burn about 2300 calories per day. If you start
counting calories and eat say 1500 calories each and every day....then
stop and don't go over that, you will start losing weight again at the
rate of about 1 pound per week. dkw

"lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?

Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.


"Shauhnathan" <shauhnc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187320258.601977.307870@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
> of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
> appreciate it.
>
> Here's what I need advice on:
>
> I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
> always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
> on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
> ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
> May.
>
> I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
> This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
> year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
> times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
> weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
> about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
> about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
> done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>
> I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
> consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
> tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
> and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
> don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
> out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
> my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
> I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
> out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
> house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
> snacks too that I can't resist.
>
> Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
> cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>
> So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
> to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
> lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
> at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
> frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
> fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
> clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
> before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
> 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
> I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
> told this is a reasonable goal.
>
> I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
> clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
> These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
> also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
> help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
> still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
> This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
> the time that I want.
>
> Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
> from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
> time to achieve the results I want.
>
> Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
> what you think of my proposed next step?
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>

Shauna, a lot depends on what you are trying to do. You are focussed
on getting the weight off fast, but you aren't fixing the root problem
- which is that you eat excessive quantitites of the wrong things.

If you DON'T change your eating habits for the long haul, you might
lose the weight with pills and shots, but you will put it all back on
again - and when you get into that groove, iweight not only comes
back, it brings its friends with it....so your weight slowly starts to
ratchet upwards with every yo-yo.

The best results are getting into good habits you can sustain - and if
you ask me, some of your exercise routine may not be sustainable
either. You are knocking yourself out with exercise, and not dealing
at all with the food.

You have to control portion size, you have to steer away from the high
fat/high carb junk, and you need to up the fruit and veggie quotient.

Its not rocket science. You are eating too much, and you need to dial
back your intake - permanently, and no, it isn't easy to change
habits. You have to run a bigger deficit to lose weight, but in the
longer term, essentially you have to plan to eat a little less than
you plan to expend daily, so you have a bit of wiggle room (i.e. if
you have every single calorie spoken for in the plan - i.e. you know
your maintenance calories are 2000 per day and you are planning to eat
that much, you will end up gaining since there is no room for
occasional unplanned splurge).

Mary G.

On Aug 17, 11:05 am, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
> Shauna, a lot depends on what you are trying to do. You are focussed
> on getting the weight off fast, but you aren't fixing the root problem
> - which is that you eat excessive quantitites of the wrong things.
>
> If you DON'T change your eating habits for the long haul, you might
> lose the weight with pills and shots, but you will put it all back on
> again - and when you get into that groove, iweight not only comes
> back, it brings its friends with it....so your weight slowly starts to
> ratchet upwards with every yo-yo.
>
> The best results are getting into good habits you can sustain - and if
> you ask me, some of your exercise routine may not be sustainable
> either. You are knocking yourself out with exercise, and not dealing
> at all with the food.
>
> You have to control portion size, you have to steer away from the high
> fat/high carb junk, and you need to up the fruit and veggie quotient.
>
> Its not rocket science. You are eating too much, and you need to dial
> back your intake - permanently, and no, it isn't easy to change
> habits. You have to run a bigger deficit to lose weight, but in the
> longer term, essentially you have to plan to eat a little less than
> you plan to expend daily, so you have a bit of wiggle room (i.e. if
> you have every single calorie spoken for in the plan - i.e. you know
> your maintenance calories are 2000 per day and you are planning to eat
> that much, you will end up gaining since there is no room for
> occasional unplanned splurge).
>
> Mary G.

I agree with your advice....but if someone is to change their eating
habits, one habit that is/was extremely important to me was to NEVER
splurge in the first place. Once you get to your daily quota, you stop
eating. The problem is of course that if you allow yourself to "cheat"
even once, then you do it over again and again. I suppose there are
rare folks who overeat only at Thanksgiving and thier birthday, for
example, but much more commonly is a lot of splurging...followed by
feeling guilty, followed by starving yourself, excessive work outs to
try to offset your indulgence, or the outright ending of your diet.
This is a kind of eating disorder, IMO, so I won't allow myself to do
it. Overweight people do not have good mechanisms to tell them when
they should be full and stop eating, so in that way, the extra
calories you get from overeating are STILL NOT ENOUGH. Once your
recognize this, it makes it easier to never do it. As an analogy, how
many people only cheat on their spouses once in a great while. They do
it a lot or not at all. Same idea. You also feel guilty, remorseful, a
failure, and out of control....and you go and do it again. Just don't
even go there. NO SPLURGING ever. That's my 2 cents anyway. dkw

On Aug 16, 10:10 pm, Shauhnathan <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
> of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
> appreciate it.
>
> Here's what I need advice on:
>
> I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
> always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
> on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
> ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
> May.
>
> I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
> This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
> year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
> times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
> weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
> about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
> about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
> done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>
> I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
> consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
> tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
> and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
> don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
> out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
> my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losingweight.
> I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
> out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
> house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
> snacks too that I can't resist.
>
> Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
> cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>
> So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
> to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
> lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
> at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
> frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
> fat, but I still think I should be losing moreweightthan I am. My
> clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
> before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
> 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
> I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
> told this is a reasonable goal.
>
> I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on aweightloss
> clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
> These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
> also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
> help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
> still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
> This seems like my best option for losing theweightthat I want to in
> the time that I want.
>
> Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
> from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
> time to achieve the results I want.
>
> Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
> what you think of my proposed next step?
>
> Thanks a bunch!

Hi,
You sound really frustrated and discouraged. I would like to help
you. Please visit my website at loseweightnowtips.com and check out
my story. I am in the process of developing the site but there is
information that can get you started. Also please feel free to e-mail
me at georgene@loseweightnowtips.com. It sounds as though your
metabolism has changed due to age, too low of calorie intake and
hormones associated with the baby. I am not a big advocate of fads.
Many are unsafe and very costly.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Georgene Dana Collins
I Care Because I've Been There

You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?



On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
> "lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?
>
> Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.
>
> "Shauhnathan" <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187320258.601977.307870@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
> > of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
> > appreciate it.
>
> > Here's what I need advice on:
>
> > I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
> > always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
> > on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
> > ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
> > May.
>
> > I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
> > This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
> > year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
> > times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
> > weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
> > about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
> > about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
> > done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>
> > I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
> > consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
> > tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
> > and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
> > don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
> > out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
> > my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
> > I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
> > out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
> > house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
> > snacks too that I can't resist.
>
> > Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
> > cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>
> > So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
> > to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
> > lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
> > at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
> > frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
> > fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
> > clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
> > before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
> > 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
> > I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
> > told this is a reasonable goal.
>
> > I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
> > clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
> > These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
> > also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
> > help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
> > still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
> > This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
> > the time that I want.
>
> > Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
> > from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
> > time to achieve the results I want.
>
> > Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
> > what you think of my proposed next step?
>
> > Thanks a bunch!

So it sounds like I should stick to around 1500 and make a daily
effort to stick to that and not go over. Will a person still lose 1 lb
a week while doing weight training 2-3 times a week? I know muscle
weighs more than fat, so I just want to make sure I am striving for a
realistic goal here and not expecting to lose weight when actually I
should be staying the same because of muscle gain.

Also, can any of you give me tips on how to keep from going over 1500
calories a day? I have tried a food log and that wore off. I don't
keep it anymore. Maybe I'll try keeping it on here, so I can get a
spat on the hand when I eat bad stuff or go over my limit. One big
problem is I love to go out to eat and I can never resist the free
appetizers, like the bread, chips and salsa, etc. I know that if I
took my lunch to work everyday or went to subway over going out to
eat, I would be saving many calories, but who wants to sit at work and
eat a packed lunch and not get out of the office for an hour?? It's
really hard to find the motivation to just sit at work for an hour and
eat a crappy meal to save the calories. I also need tips on how I can
go to my mother's house in the evening to pick up my son when she is
cooking a really good meal and not over-eat. I have tried eating
before I go there, so that I'm not hungry when I'm there, but I still
can never resist eating something there because she has so much good
stuff, so then I end up having even more calories.

I will really try my best to eat fewer calories and see how the
results go.

Thanks for the help.

dkw said NO SPLURGING ever. That's my 2 cents anyway.

Mary responds: I didn't express myself properly - what I meant by
splurge....was budgetting calories to allow the occasional spontaneous
little treat - so you have enough "give" to have a little frozen
yoghurt if the whole family is at the beach and decides to go for it,
or have a nibble of cake when its someone's birthday at the office. I
didn't mean going on a total blow out bender.

I've been maintaining about 3 years now, and if I have can't EVER have
a spontaneous and unplanned for treat, I end up feeling deprived,
particularly in social situations. I do keep them small, but because I
make my eating plan run about 100-200 calories lighter than I need for
maintenance daily, I have that little bit of freedom to let me have an
unplanned biscuit when you take me out for a coffee!

M.

Shauhnathan, I hate to sound negative, but this is not going to work
unless you commit. Think about what Yoda says...There is no "try",
there is only DO. You are looking for a way out of change - even short
term change - to get the desired effect, and sorry, that is just not
possible - we all wish it weren't so, but it IS hard, but there is no
escape. You have to change. You are doomed to fail before you start if
you don't get your head around that reality. If you are struggling
with this at 23, you'll be in deep by middle age, unless you take the
steps now to avert.

Start keeping your food log again. Pack a lunch and go for a walk
instead of going out and eating crap. Buy yourself a little scale
(here is a sample of a pretty good one for very little money
http://www.thekitchenstore.com/).
If you have to, take it with you to your mom's and weigh your darned
portion so you don't load up your plate.

Mary G.

"Shauhnathan" <shauhnc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187406603.723870.241030@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?
>

That was a rather rude response to a legitimate question. I hadn't heard of
it either but did a google and came up with this site. Many of us aren't
interested in lipo of any form

http://www.yourplasticsurgeryguide.c...o-dissolve.htm







>
>
> On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
>> "lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?
>>
>> Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.
>>
>> "Shauhnathan" <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187320258.601977.307870@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
>> > of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
>> > appreciate it.
>>
>> > Here's what I need advice on:
>>
>> > I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
>> > always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
>> > on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
>> > ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
>> > May.
>>
>> > I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
>> > This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
>> > year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
>> > times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
>> > weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
>> > about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
>> > about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
>> > done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>>
>> > I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
>> > consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
>> > tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
>> > and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
>> > don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
>> > out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
>> > my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
>> > I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
>> > out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
>> > house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
>> > snacks too that I can't resist.
>>
>> > Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
>> > cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>>
>> > So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
>> > to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
>> > lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
>> > at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
>> > frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
>> > fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
>> > clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
>> > before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
>> > 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
>> > I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
>> > told this is a reasonable goal.
>>
>> > I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
>> > clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
>> > These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
>> > also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
>> > help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
>> > still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
>> > This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
>> > the time that I want.
>>
>> > Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
>> > from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
>> > time to achieve the results I want.
>>
>> > Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
>> > what you think of my proposed next step?
>>
>> > Thanks a bunch!
>
>

I'm sorry (Beverly) that you found my response rude, but when I write
about 6 paragraphs explaining my situation and a person writes, "What
the hell is lipodissolve? Your clinic might be run by snake oil
experts," that is much more rude than what I wrote in response.
Lipodissolve is a big thing is my city, maybe it's not passed around
the rest of the world yet, but I assumed it had because I live in TN.
We are usually one of last places to catch onto things.

Yes, the link you posted is what I am talking about. It is a non-
invasive shot that you are given as much as once a week to dissolve
fat underneath the skin. I don't know about anyone else, but in my
experience that fat is the hardest to get to vanish. It seems like a
pretty good option to me as long as the person isn't depending solely
on the shot because obviously she will gain the weight back quickly
after the process is over. If she uses the lipodissolve as a jump-
start the fat loss process, then maintains it by working out properly
and eating properly, I think it's a great idea.


On Aug 18, 8:49 am, "Beverly" <bow...@home.woh.rr.com> wrote:
> "Shauhnathan" <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187406603.723870.241030@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?
>
> That was a rather rude response to a legitimate question. I hadn't heard of
> it either but did a google and came up with this site. Many of us aren't
> interested in lipo of any form
>
> http://www.yourplasticsurgeryguide.c...o-dissolve.htm
>
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
> >> "lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?
>
> >> Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.
>
> >> "Shauhnathan" <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1187320258.601977.307870@57g2000hsv.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> > Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
> >> > of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
> >> > appreciate it.
>
> >> > Here's what I need advice on:
>
> >> > I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
> >> > always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
> >> > on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
> >> > ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
> >> > May.
>
> >> > I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
> >> > This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
> >> > year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
> >> > times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
> >> > weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
> >> > about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
> >> > about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
> >> > done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>
> >> > I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
> >> > consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
> >> > tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
> >> > and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
> >> > don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
> >> > out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
> >> > my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
> >> > I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
> >> > out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
> >> > house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
> >> > snacks too that I can't resist.
>
> >> > Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
> >> > cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>
> >> > So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
> >> > to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
> >> > lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
> >> > at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
> >> > frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
> >> > fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
> >> > clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
> >> > before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
> >> > 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
> >> > I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
> >> > told this is a reasonable goal.
>
> >> > I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
> >> > clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
> >> > These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
> >> > also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
> >> > help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
> >> > still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
> >> > This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
> >> > the time that I want.
>
> >> > Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
> >> > from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
> >> > time to achieve the results I want.
>
> >> > Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
> >> > what you think of my proposed next step?
>
> >> > Thanks a bunch!

Shauhnathan <shauhnc@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes, the link you posted is what I am talking about. It is a non-
> invasive shot that you are given as much as once a week to dissolve
> fat underneath the skin.

And it's a total scam. Don't waste your time or money, and don't insult
the group by suggesting that we're somehow ass backwards for not knowing
about it. Most of us have seen a scam just like it somewhere along the
way.

Eat less. Exercise more. Repeat forever.

12 pounds in three months, by the way, is perfectly fine. A plateau
after initial good loss, by the way, is perfectly normal. You need to
butch up and continue doing the sensible thing, not give in to some
stupid scam.

Caves have many advantages. Temperature control can be less expensive and
sharing leftovers with bears leaves little cleanup after meals. [/end
sarcasm]

Thanks to a link provided in the thread I found:
"Because different doctors use different ingredients for lipo-dissolve, it
is difficult to give a meaningful prediction of results from past
procedures. There are no significant studies demonstrating where the
medication travels or how it may affect organs, what the proper dosage or
ingredient requirement is, the short term side effects, or long-term
complications."

I had read about a side effect of colagenase that is the dissolving of fat.
However, the lipo-dissolve folks do not seem to be using that, and it
certainly is far from *approval* for such use.

I stopped hoping for treatments like this, when I learned how direct caloric
restriction acts, and found that I was comfortable with an Atkins-like
approach.



"Shauhnathan" <shauhnc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187406603.723870.241030@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> You haven't heard of lipodissolve yet? Do you live in a cave?
>
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2:04 pm, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
>> "lipo-dissolve" What the hell is that?
>>
>> Your clinic might be run by snake-oil experts.
>>
>> "Shauhnathan" <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187320258.601977.307870@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > Hi all. Before I begin, thanks to any of you who are taking time out
>> > of your day to read this to help me and give me good advice. I really
>> > appreciate it.
>>
>> > Here's what I need advice on:
>>
>> > I am a 23 year old (in 2 days to be exact) female and am 5'6. I've
>> > always been semi- thin, but over the past few years, I have slowly put
>> > on pounds. I did work as a waitress and got down to 137 lbs two years
>> > ago, then got pregnant and had a baby, leaving me at 160, as of last
>> > May.
>>
>> > I desperately want to be 130 lbs, which would make me about a size 6.
>> > This is ideal for me. Right now, I wear about an 11. Since May of this
>> > year, I have been really working out, consistently. I work out about 5
>> > times a week. When I say work out, I mean a mixture of cardio and
>> > weights. I typically do a full body workout (given to me by a trainer)
>> > about twice a week and the other days I am there, I do cardio for
>> > about an hour. This type of activity is much more than I have ever
>> > done before in my life. I never consistently worked out before now.
>>
>> > I have tried really hard to eat better since I started working out
>> > consistently. I only drink water, diet drinks and ocassionally sweet
>> > tea. My diet could definitely be better, though. I have my good days
>> > and bad. Some days I stay right at 1,000 calories, while others I
>> > don't do so well and eat a fast breakfast, like a biscuit and then eat
>> > out for lunch and so on. I pretty much always keep a running count of
>> > my calories, but food is definitely one downfall to my losing weight.
>> > I am very busy so I eat what is easiest to get to and I love to eat
>> > out, which I know is very bad. I also tend to gorge at my mother's
>> > house when she cooks. She always has cabinets brimming with fatty
>> > snacks too that I can't resist.
>>
>> > Obviously I have a really hard time dieting, so I usually do extra
>> > cardio to try and make up for the extra calories I've had.
>>
>> > So, my problem is that I'm not seeing the results that I really want
>> > to see. With as much as I work out and do cardio, I've only lost 12
>> > lbs in 3 months. At first, it was slowly coming off, but it has been
>> > at a dead standstill at 147 for about 5 weeks now, which is very
>> > frustrating. I know that I am gaining muscle which weighs more than
>> > fat, but I still think I should be losing more weight than I am. My
>> > clothes are fitting a little looser, I feel more toned than I did
>> > before I started working out, and my body fat has gone down from 28 to
>> > 24, but I still don't have results like I would expect for as hard as
>> > I work. My goal is to be where I want by December, and I have been
>> > told this is a reasonable goal.
>>
>> > I am considering spending a couple hundred dollars on a weight loss
>> > clinic to get shots consisting of half lipo-dissolve and half B-12.
>> > These are suppose to give you alot of energy and dissolve fat. You can
>> > also buy diet pills from this clinic that work with the program to
>> > help you lose quickly. I am considering doing the pills too. I will
>> > still be watching what I eat and working out while I am on this plan.
>> > This seems like my best option for losing the weight that I want to in
>> > the time that I want.
>>
>> > Otherwise, it seems I will have to eat virtually nothing, stay away
>> > from my mother's house ( ) and still keep working out all the
>> > time to achieve the results I want.
>>
>> > Can anyone give me advice on what I should do at this point or tell me
>> > what you think of my proposed next step?
>>
>> > Thanks a bunch!
>
>

Thanks for the tips. That's why you get several opinions and not just
a few. There is a very well-liked morning talk show guy in Knoxville
that seriously talks about lipodissolve about every day. Then there's
a new weight loss clinic in my hometown that opened up recently that
people my family know are swearing by. They say they feel better, more
energized, and they are losing weight. And hey, it never hurts to ask
what people think about something like this. I, myself, will probably
not be trying it now.

And by the way, was not trying to imply that anyone here was "ass
backwards," I was just saying that I'm surprised it hasn't gotten
around more because we in Tennessee are usually one of the last to
know about things. I was implying that I am "ass backwards."

On Aug 17, 8:21 pm, Shauhnathan <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So it sounds like I should stick to around 1500 and make a daily
> effort to stick to that and not go over. Will a person still lose 1 lb
> a week while doing weight training 2-3 times a week? I know muscle
> weighs more than fat, so I just want to make sure I am striving for a
> realistic goal here and not expecting to lose weight when actually I
> should be staying the same because of muscle gain.
>
> Also, can any of you give me tips on how to keep from going over 1500
> calories a day? I have tried a food log and that wore off. I don't
> keep it anymore. Maybe I'll try keeping it on here, so I can get a
> spat on the hand when I eat bad stuff or go over my limit. One big
> problem is I love to go out to eat and I can never resist the free
> appetizers, like the bread, chips and salsa, etc. I know that if I
> took my lunch to work everyday or went to subway over going out to
> eat, I would be saving many calories, but who wants to sit at work and
> eat a packed lunch and not get out of the office for an hour?? It's
> really hard to find the motivation to just sit at work for an hour and
> eat a crappy meal to save the calories. I also need tips on how I can
> go to my mother's house in the evening to pick up my son when she is
> cooking a really good meal and not over-eat. I have tried eating
> before I go there, so that I'm not hungry when I'm there, but I still
> can never resist eating something there because she has so much good
> stuff, so then I end up having even more calories.
>
> I will really try my best to eat fewer calories and see how the
> results go.
>
> Thanks for the help.

Yes. Muscle does weigh more than fat, but you will still lose weight
on the 1500 cal/day. For one thing, you'll lose fat quickly, but
muscle builds much more slowly. Also, no matter what, you will also
lose a little muscle while on the diet. If you do the 1500 cal, it
shouldn't be significant, but there will be some muscle loss along
with the fat. People who diet have extra proteins in their blood that
comes from the muscle breakdown, is how they know.

The biggest pitfall is that you might not carefully count calories. If
you aren't religious about it, it is very easy to get an extra 200-300
calories too..... just a few cookies that you conveniently forget
about, or fudging on portion sizes, or just guessing about caloric
content, etc. I've been there and done that (lots of times) and
perhaps you have too. NO CHEATING and good luck. Let me know when you
reach your goal. Actually you can pretty much determine that: there
are 3500 cal in 1 pound. At 1500 cal you are undereating by about 500
cal per day (since we estimated probably very accurately that you are
presently burning 2300 cal per day. 3500 divided by 500 = 7 days to
lose one pound. Initially you might lose even little more, but it
would most likely be water and temporary. As your weight decreases, so
does the 500 calories though and for a couple of reasons: 1) Your body
recognizes you are starving yourself (relatively speaking of course)
so it becomes a little more efficient getting extra work out of those
calories you are eating and 2) You burn fewer calories as your weight
decreases. A really big person burns more calories walking for 1 mile
at 4 mph than a thin person. Here the fat person AND the thin person
is YOU. Because of these mathematical changes, you might want to re-
estimate your needed calories after a month or so, especially if you
are losing a little more or less than you expected, but I think it
will work like clockwork for at least 3 months and by then you'll be
down 12 pounds and at least one size clothes smaller..maybe even 2
sizes. Good luck. dkw

On Aug 18, 3:52 am, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
> dkw said NO SPLURGING ever. That's my 2 cents anyway.
>
> Mary responds: I didn't express myself properly - what I meant by
> splurge....was budgetting calories to allow the occasional spontaneous
> little treat - so you have enough "give" to have a little frozen
> yoghurt if the whole family is at the beach and decides to go for it,
> or have a nibble of cake when its someone's birthday at the office. I
> didn't mean going on a total blow out bender.
>
> I've been maintaining about 3 years now, and if I have can't EVER have
> a spontaneous and unplanned for treat, I end up feeling deprived,
> particularly in social situations. I do keep them small, but because I
> make my eating plan run about 100-200 calories lighter than I need for
> maintenance daily, I have that little bit of freedom to let me have an
> unplanned biscuit when you take me out for a coffee!
>
> M.

That works. dkw

It seems to me that you can't stick to a set calorie intake by
counting calories each day.
My advice is don't bother.
Eat 5 meals per day no more than 3 hours apart. Each meal should have
30g approx of protein (fish, chicken, turkey, egg white, lean beef or
cottage cheese). The rest of your plate should be full of salad or
vegetables and nothing else. You will find it difficult to eat too
many calories this way; it is very healthy and will kick your
metabolism into shape. Every 3 days add a large potato or some pasta
to one of these meals only. Make it the first meal after your
exercise. Once a week have 2 meals with the added carbs again after
exercise. See that you exercise virtually everyday for about 30
minutes but make it hard exercise, which should get out of breath.
Try this for 3 weeks and you will see and feel real results.
I can recommend a great resource to use if you wish.

Good luck

On Aug 18, 1:30 pm, Fred <fredsteph...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> It seems to me that you can't stick to a set calorie intake by
> counting calories each day.
> My advice is don't bother.
> Eat 5 meals per day no more than 3 hours apart. Each meal should have
> 30g approx of protein (fish, chicken, turkey, egg white, lean beef or
> cottage cheese). The rest of your plate should be full of salad or
> vegetables and nothing else. You will find it difficult to eat too
> many calories this way; it is very healthy and will kick your
> metabolism into shape. Every 3 days add a large potato or some pasta
> to one of these meals only. Make it the first meal after your
> exercise. Once a week have 2 meals with the added carbs again after
> exercise. See that you exercise virtually everyday for about 30
> minutes but make it hard exercise, which should get out of breath.
> Try this for 3 weeks and you will see and feel real results.
> I can recommend a great resource to use if you wish.
>
> Good luck
Your recommendation is very general and good diets and exercise
routine might include nothing you mention and also the specifics you
mention will definely NOT work for lots of people. If it works for
you, that is the main thing though. There are lots of good ways to
diet and maintain weight and muscle tone and health, I think. dkw

Thank you DKW and Fred for the really good tips! After tonight, I am
definitely going to watch my calories much better. Today was my
birthday, so I had some delicious birthday cake tonight, so I'm sure I
went over my calorie count. The thing is for me, since I am now
working out alot, plus am somewhat conscious of the calories I'm
eating, I am doing much more than I ever have in the past, and it's
showing. People are noticing my weight loss that haven't seen me in a
while, which I am stoked about. If I were to keep doing exactly what I
am doing, I would slowly, slowly lose what I want to lose, I think,
but I definitely want to lose it faster than it's going now. I am
definitely going to be more diligent about the calorie thing.

You guys are awesome to give such good advice. Thanks so much. <3

On Aug 17, 11:21 pm, Shauhnathan <shau...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> So it sounds like I should stick to around 1500 and make a daily
> effort to stick to that and not go over. Will a person still lose 1 lb
> a week while doing weight training 2-3 times a week?

Well, I lost 130 lbs (at an average rate of about 6 lbs/month) while
weight training 4-5 times a week :-).

> Also, can any of you give me tips on how to keep from going over 1500
> calories a day? I have tried a food log and that wore off. I don't
> keep it anymore.

Well, that's just because you gave up on it. I kept a food log for 4
1/2 years. (Incidentally, I generally targeted about 1600 calories
per day, but by the time I got down to what you weigh I was doing more
like 1400 while I was continuing to try to lose, then back up to
around 1600 for maintenance. But I'm a whole lot older than you and
almost surely have a slower metabolism for that reason.)

>I know that if I
> took my lunch to work everyday or went to subway over going out to
> eat, I would be saving many calories, but who wants to sit at work and
> eat a packed lunch and not get out of the office for an hour?? It's
> really hard to find the motivation to just sit at work for an hour and
> eat a crappy meal to save the calories.

Well, why do you suppose the lunch you took to work would be
"crappy"? What's crappy is the breadsticks and stuff you're eating at
the restaurants. I really loved the big salads I took to work for
lunch. And think about getting out for a walk or a run at lunchtime.
(Running works best if you have a shower at the office or a good way
to cool off afterward :-).)

>I also need tips on how I can
> go to my mother's house in the evening to pick up my son when she is
> cooking a really good meal and not over-eat. I have tried eating
> before I go there, so that I'm not hungry when I'm there, but I still
> can never resist eating something there because she has so much good
> stuff, so then I end up having even more calories.

Well, I think you know the real answer to all this. You just don't
have the commitment or discipline to control what you're eating. You
say you can't do it, but of course you can. You just don't want to.
At some point you're going to have to get serious about it if you hope
to lose weight. And keep in mind that you're setting an example for
your son. If you eat junk all the time, so will he.

Chris
262/130s/130s

On Aug 18, 7:33 am, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:

>If you are struggling
> with this at 23, you'll be in deep by middle age, unless you take the
> steps now to avert.

What she said. Another young woman here, who was around your age and
weight, said she couldn't imagine ever getting up to a really obese
weight like I'd once been at (my all-time high was at least 275); she
just had to worry about her extra 15-20 stubborn pounds. Well, here's
what happens: I was 135 lbs. at age 20. At 54 I was 275. So I
gained 140 lbs. in 34 years. That comes out to about 4 lbs/year. Not
such a lot, huh? That's an extra 14,000 calories PER YEAR over what I
would have needed to maintain my weight. That's a whopping extra 38
calories per day -- maybe 1/4 of a breadstick :-). Obesity happens
because you don't do anything about the little problem before it
becomes a big problem. Think about this.

Chris
262/130s/130w

Shauhnathan <shauhnc@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Also, can any of you give me tips on how to keep from going over 1500
> calories a day? I have tried a food log and that wore off. I don't
> keep it anymore.

Butch the hell up. Seriously. Nothing's going to work if you keep
quitting.

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