Our Revels are Never-ending.... the Historian in Baltimore!

I spent yesterday in Baltimore, and I have some more non-scale
victories to report. I was visiting two friends, co-authors of a study
of possible sources for Shakespeare's The Tempest. One can determine
their real names by searching
humanities.literature.authors.shakespeare, but for my post I'll call
them Prospero and Miranda.

The first NSV I discovered on getting into my car, AKA The Neilmobile.
There's a lot more space between me and the steering wheel. If this
keeps up I may need to move the seat forward.

The drive from my home to Baltimore normally takes 2.5 hours. This trip
there was an accident on I-95 that added a half-hour to the commute.
Despite that, I had none of my usual road-travel fatigue. I was very
pleased at this discovery, for Prospero and Miranda are both active
individuals, and I needed to have energy to keep up with them.

My hosts for the day were very happy to see so much less of me. We had
last met in Philadelphia in April, back when I was 330 pounds. Miranda
opened the door and exclaimed
"Oh brave new Neil that hath so little fat on you!:
Perhaps the words were different, but the spirit was the same.

After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.) I
wasn't in the least bit tired, even though the hike involved climbing
hills, and I could keep up with Prospero as he lead us up those
cloud-capp'd towers.The rest of the day was spent in more sedentary
pursuits, but again I had no tiredness or that sense of dull-wittedness
that obesity can bring. Not that I would be foolhardly enough to debate
Prospero in his apartment....

In fact, the only time I experienced fatigue the entire time was during
the trip back home. I left at nearly 9:00 PM, and as a precaution I
stopped at the Maryland border to 'caffinate'. I reached home about
midnight, tired, but tired from a full day of activitity, not tired
from carrying the weight of two people. It was time to round this
little adventure with a sleep.

To some, this pagent I've described must seem insubstantial, but for me
being able to participate in life's simple pleasures - a hike along a
lake, a trip to a nearby city - and having the energy to enjoy them, is
the goal of weight loss. And I hope these revels never end.

Neil
385/280/220

Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And, like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on, and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

The Historian wrote:
> I spent yesterday in Baltimore, and I have some more non-scale
> victories to report. I was visiting two friends, co-authors of a study
> of possible sources for Shakespeare's The Tempest. One can determine
> their real names by searching
> humanities.literature.authors.shakespeare, but for my post I'll call
> them Prospero and Miranda.
>
> The first NSV I discovered on getting into my car, AKA The Neilmobile.
> There's a lot more space between me and the steering wheel. If this
> keeps up I may need to move the seat forward.
>
> The drive from my home to Baltimore normally takes 2.5 hours. This trip
> there was an accident on I-95 that added a half-hour to the commute.
> Despite that, I had none of my usual road-travel fatigue. I was very
> pleased at this discovery, for Prospero and Miranda are both active
> individuals, and I needed to have energy to keep up with them.
>
> My hosts for the day were very happy to see so much less of me. We had
> last met in Philadelphia in April, back when I was 330 pounds. Miranda
> opened the door and exclaimed
> "Oh brave new Neil that hath so little fat on you!:
> Perhaps the words were different, but the spirit was the same.
>
> After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
> hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
> dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.) I
> wasn't in the least bit tired, even though the hike involved climbing
> hills, and I could keep up with Prospero as he lead us up those
> cloud-capp'd towers.The rest of the day was spent in more sedentary
> pursuits, but again I had no tiredness or that sense of dull-wittedness
> that obesity can bring. Not that I would be foolhardly enough to debate
> Prospero in his apartment....
>
> In fact, the only time I experienced fatigue the entire time was during
> the trip back home. I left at nearly 9:00 PM, and as a precaution I
> stopped at the Maryland border to 'caffinate'. I reached home about
> midnight, tired, but tired from a full day of activitity, not tired
> from carrying the weight of two people. It was time to round this
> little adventure with a sleep.
>
> To some, this pagent I've described must seem insubstantial, but for me
> being able to participate in life's simple pleasures - a hike along a
> lake, a trip to a nearby city - and having the energy to enjoy them, is
> the goal of weight loss. And I hope these revels never end.
>
> Neil
> 385/280/220
>
> Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
> As I foretold you, were all spirits and
> Are melted into air, into thin air:
> And, like the baseless fabric of this vision,
> The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces,
> The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
> Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve
> And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
> Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
> As dreams are made on, and our little life
> Is rounded with a sleep.

It was a delight seeing Neil yesterday. I hope to see him--or, in the
nicest possible way, I hope to see still less of him--when I return to
Baltimore in the spring. What a fantastic role model he is!

Miranda Mouse

The Historian wrote:

> but for my post I'll call them Prospero and Miranda.

You had me worried. I've read Poe more recently than Shakespeare.

> The drive from my home to Baltimore normally takes 2.5 hours. This trip
> there was an accident on I-95 that added a half-hour to the commute.
> Despite that, I had none of my usual road-travel fatigue

> "Oh brave new Neil that hath so little fat on you!:
> Perhaps the words were different, but the spirit was the same.

> After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
> hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
> dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.)

> And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
> Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
> As dreams are made on, and our little life
> Is rounded with a sleep.

And socks! A thick pair really helps ward off the blisters.

Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.

335/319/215

comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
>
> > but for my post I'll call them Prospero and Miranda.
>
> You had me worried. I've read Poe more recently than Shakespeare.

Poe is buried in Baltimore, I understand.

> > After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
> > hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
> > dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.)
>
> And socks! A thick pair really helps ward off the blisters.

Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
- I've been a big fellow for a while.

I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
should bring?

My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
one be?

> Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.

It was.

Neil
385/280/220

"The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
>> The Historian wrote:
>>
>> > but for my post I'll call them Prospero and Miranda.
>>
>> You had me worried. I've read Poe more recently than Shakespeare.
>
> Poe is buried in Baltimore, I understand.
>
>> > After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
>> > hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
>> > dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.)
>>
>> And socks! A thick pair really helps ward off the blisters.
>
> Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
> be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
> - I've been a big fellow for a while.
>
> I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
> have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
> should bring?
>
> My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
> exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
> one be?
>
>> Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.
>
> It was.
>
> Neil
> 385/280/220
>

I like Merrels shoes and hiking boots, mainly because they are very
comfortable, but they are pricy and not very durable.

My brother swears by the "Salomon" I think.. it's also found in hiking shops
and stores.

I don't know where you are, but go to a "outdoor sport shop" get
recommandations, and if you don't want to pay their price, go back home and
find it cheaper online... a sport shop in your area will know the kind of
terrain and weather you're likely to meet.

If you plan to hike a lot, an investment in good hiking boots AND shoes is a
must. That way you can hit the trail at any time of the year.

If you're in snow country, think about snow shoes!!!! it's a lot of fun, and
burn tons of calories!!
Will~

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:23:11 GMT, "Willow Herself"
<willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote:

>
>"The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1164577284.633247.134260@l39g2000cwd.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> The Historian wrote:
>>>
>>> > but for my post I'll call them Prospero and Miranda.
>>>
>>> You had me worried. I've read Poe more recently than Shakespeare.
>>
>> Poe is buried in Baltimore, I understand.
>>
>>> > After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
>>> > hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
>>> > dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.)
>>>
>>> And socks! A thick pair really helps ward off the blisters.
>>
>> Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
>> be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
>> - I've been a big fellow for a while.
>>
>> I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
>> have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
>> should bring?
>>
>> My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
>> exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
>> one be?
>>
>>> Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.
>>
>> It was.
>>
>> Neil
>> 385/280/220
>>
>
>I like Merrels shoes and hiking boots, mainly because they are very
>comfortable, but they are pricy and not very durable.
>
>My brother swears by the "Salomon" I think.. it's also found in hiking shops
>and stores.
>
>I don't know where you are, but go to a "outdoor sport shop" get
>recommandations, and if you don't want to pay their price, go back home and
>find it cheaper online... a sport shop in your area will know the kind of
>terrain and weather you're likely to meet.
>
>If you plan to hike a lot, an investment in good hiking boots AND shoes is a
>must. That way you can hit the trail at any time of the year.
>
>If you're in snow country, think about snow shoes!!!! it's a lot of fun, and
>burn tons of calories!!
>Will~
>

My usual hiking boots are mid-rise Vasques: http://tinyurl.com/yknxyr
.. I chose these partly because they are designed for running trails
as well as walking, though it was a while before I got around to
trying running :-). I also have some higher-topped boots for snow or
hikes that involve more creek crossing, but I don't think they'd work
well for running. I bought them from Land's End. They were less
expensive than the Vasque's -- and I expect not as high quality -- but
they've been fine the few times I wore them.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

I've heard of them, but never got around to trying them. Are they comfy?
Will~ who likes slippers-like workout shoes

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:23:11 GMT, "Willow Herself"
> <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1164577284.633247.134260@l39g2000cwd.google groups.com...
>>>
>>> comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> The Historian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > but for my post I'll call them Prospero and Miranda.
>>>>
>>>> You had me worried. I've read Poe more recently than Shakespeare.
>>>
>>> Poe is buried in Baltimore, I understand.
>>>
>>>> > After lunch in Mt Washington, Prospero lead us on a mile and a half
>>>> > hike at Lake Roland. I thought I did quite well even though I wasn't
>>>> > dressed for hiking. (Note to self - buy hiking boots for next trip.)
>>>>
>>>> And socks! A thick pair really helps ward off the blisters.
>>>
>>> Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
>>> be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
>>> - I've been a big fellow for a while.
>>>
>>> I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
>>> have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
>>> should bring?
>>>
>>> My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
>>> exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
>>> one be?
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.
>>>
>>> It was.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>> 385/280/220
>>>
>>
>>I like Merrels shoes and hiking boots, mainly because they are very
>>comfortable, but they are pricy and not very durable.
>>
>>My brother swears by the "Salomon" I think.. it's also found in hiking
>>shops
>>and stores.
>>
>>I don't know where you are, but go to a "outdoor sport shop" get
>>recommandations, and if you don't want to pay their price, go back home
>>and
>>find it cheaper online... a sport shop in your area will know the kind of
>>terrain and weather you're likely to meet.
>>
>>If you plan to hike a lot, an investment in good hiking boots AND shoes is
>>a
>>must. That way you can hit the trail at any time of the year.
>>
>>If you're in snow country, think about snow shoes!!!! it's a lot of fun,
>>and
>>burn tons of calories!!
>>Will~
>>
>
> My usual hiking boots are mid-rise Vasques: http://tinyurl.com/yknxyr
> . I chose these partly because they are designed for running trails
> as well as walking, though it was a while before I got around to
> trying running :-). I also have some higher-topped boots for snow or
> hikes that involve more creek crossing, but I don't think they'd work
> well for running. I bought them from Land's End. They were less
> expensive than the Vasque's -- and I expect not as high quality -- but
> they've been fine the few times I wore them.
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

The Historian wrote:
>
> Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
> be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
> - I've been a big fellow for a while.
>
> I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
> have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
> should bring?

Hiking shoes, socks, and an adequate supply of water are a great start.
You can add to your gear as you discover what you're missing. I shop
REI, but any outdoors store that carries the big brands should be fine.

Socks: A good pair of socks prevents blisters by cushioning your feet,
stopping them from rubbing against your shoe, and wicking away sweat.
My $8 Wigwam Merino Wool socks lasted a dozen hikes. My $16 Bridgedale
Light Hiker polyester-blend socks have lasted a few years. Most socks
in that price range should be good.

Shoes: What's most important is that you try the shoe. Put on your
hiking socks, lace the shoes up tight, and walk around for 15 minutes.
It probably won't feel as comfortable as sandals, but you should feel
no discomfort or rubbing. Also, spend a few minutes walking up--and
down--an incline. A good outdoors store will have a rocky incline at a
45 degree angle or so for you to test your shoes on. I bought a pair of
5-10 Mountain Masters for hikes involving hills, rocks, mud, or rain
and a pair of Eco shoes for hikes involving pavement or light trails.
The Eco shoes double as my normal shoe.

Water: Always bring some, and drink before you feel thirsty. Novice
hikers tend to drink too little. For a 1.0-1.5 hour hike I bring a
water bottle. For a 3.0+ hour hike I carry a Camelbak (with a snack and
a camera). For a multi-day hike I carry a canteen and water-purifying
tablets. The in-betweens depend on the terrain and weather.

> My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
> exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
> one be?

Whatever feels comfortable and safe. My first hike was 3-days on the
Appalachian Trail. I arrived alone and was terribly equipped, but I
bartered along the way and enjoyed it immensely. Keep your gear light
and set a consistent pace (no fast then slow). You'll be surprised how
far your feet will carry you. :-)

> > Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.
>
> It was.
>
> Neil
> 385/280/220

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:10:02 GMT, "Willow Herself"
<willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote:

>I've heard of them, but never got around to trying them. Are they comfy?
>Will~ who likes slippers-like workout shoes
>

Well, they're comfortable for their purpose. They're not
slipper-like, but that's not what one would want in a climbing shoe.
You need something fairly rigid to provide the traction you need and
to protect your ankles.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

On 27 Nov 2006 10:03:40 -0800, comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:

>Water: Always bring some, and drink before you feel thirsty. Novice
>hikers tend to drink too little. For a 1.0-1.5 hour hike I bring a
>water bottle. For a 3.0+ hour hike I carry a Camelbak (with a snack and
>a camera). For a multi-day hike I carry a canteen and water-purifying
>tablets. The in-betweens depend on the terrain and weather.

I carry a Camelbak as well -- definitely want water when hiking. It
has an added advantage in providing a little extra weight to up the
exercise level :-).

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
>
>>Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
>>be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
>>- I've been a big fellow for a while.
>>
>>I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
>>have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
>>should bring?
>
>
> Hiking shoes, socks, and an adequate supply of water are a great start.
> You can add to your gear as you discover what you're missing. I shop
> REI, but any outdoors store that carries the big brands should be fine.
>
> Socks: A good pair of socks prevents blisters by cushioning your feet,
> stopping them from rubbing against your shoe, and wicking away sweat.
> My $8 Wigwam Merino Wool socks lasted a dozen hikes. My $16 Bridgedale
> Light Hiker polyester-blend socks have lasted a few years. Most socks
> in that price range should be good.
>
> Shoes: What's most important is that you try the shoe. Put on your
> hiking socks, lace the shoes up tight, and walk around for 15 minutes.
> It probably won't feel as comfortable as sandals, but you should feel
> no discomfort or rubbing. Also, spend a few minutes walking up--and
> down--an incline. A good outdoors store will have a rocky incline at a
> 45 degree angle or so for you to test your shoes on. I bought a pair of
> 5-10 Mountain Masters for hikes involving hills, rocks, mud, or rain
> and a pair of Eco shoes for hikes involving pavement or light trails.
> The Eco shoes double as my normal shoe.
>
> Water: Always bring some, and drink before you feel thirsty. Novice
> hikers tend to drink too little. For a 1.0-1.5 hour hike I bring a
> water bottle. For a 3.0+ hour hike I carry a Camelbak (with a snack and
> a camera). For a multi-day hike I carry a canteen and water-purifying
> tablets. The in-betweens depend on the terrain and weather.
>
>
>>My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
>>exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
>>one be?
>
>
> Whatever feels comfortable and safe. My first hike was 3-days on the
> Appalachian Trail. I arrived alone and was terribly equipped, but I
> bartered along the way and enjoyed it immensely. Keep your gear light
> and set a consistent pace (no fast then slow). You'll be surprised how
> far your feet will carry you. :-)
>
>
>>>Sounds like a fun bunch and hike.
>>
>>It was.
>>
>>Neil
>>385/280/220
>
>
If you are going long enough that you have to rely on uncertain water
supplies, I would recommend a filter over purification tablets. Filters
don't weigh much, are more reliable, and the water tastes better.

del

--
Del Cecchi
"This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
strategies or opinions.”

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
news:qtcmm2lp7eb93uihob6cinj89gr7ck53rs@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:10:02 GMT, "Willow Herself"
> <willowkinda@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote:
>
>>I've heard of them, but never got around to trying them. Are they comfy?
>>Will~ who likes slippers-like workout shoes
>>
>
> Well, they're comfortable for their purpose. They're not
> slipper-like, but that's not what one would want in a climbing shoe.
> You need something fairly rigid to provide the traction you need and
> to protect your ankles.
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

Agreed, but that doesn't mean that the interior needs to feel like steel
plates.. I bought a pair of hiking boots onces, I swear the padding had to
be plastic or something..

Merrels are very comfortable and have good support... I just wish they were
better built. I have to buy a new pair every 6-8 months.

Will~

comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
> >
> > Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
> > be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
> > - I've been a big fellow for a while.
> >
> > I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
> > have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
> > should bring?
>
> Hiking shoes, socks, and an adequate supply of water are a great start.
> You can add to your gear as you discover what you're missing. I shop
> REI, but any outdoors store that carries the big brands should be fine.

OK. I'm shopping REI tomorrow. I'll post my purchases so all you hiking
experts can criticize them. :-)

> Socks: A good pair of socks prevents blisters by cushioning your feet,
> stopping them from rubbing against your shoe, and wicking away sweat.
> My $8 Wigwam Merino Wool socks lasted a dozen hikes. My $16 Bridgedale
> Light Hiker polyester-blend socks have lasted a few years. Most socks
> in that price range should be good.

Do you use sock liners? I see they are recommended by people who wish
to sell them to me. :-)

> Shoes: What's most important is that you try the shoe. Put on your
> hiking socks, lace the shoes up tight, and walk around for 15 minutes.
> It probably won't feel as comfortable as sandals, but you should feel
> no discomfort or rubbing. Also, spend a few minutes walking up--and
> down--an incline. A good outdoors store will have a rocky incline at a
> 45 degree angle or so for you to test your shoes on. I bought a pair of
> 5-10 Mountain Masters for hikes involving hills, rocks, mud, or rain
> and a pair of Eco shoes for hikes involving pavement or light trails.
> The Eco shoes double as my normal shoe.
>
> Water: Always bring some, and drink before you feel thirsty. Novice
> hikers tend to drink too little. For a 1.0-1.5 hour hike I bring a
> water bottle. For a 3.0+ hour hike I carry a Camelbak (with a snack and
> a camera). For a multi-day hike I carry a canteen and water-purifying
> tablets. The in-betweens depend on the terrain and weather.

We'll stick with the water bottle for now. Multi-day hikes might be in
the future, or they might not.

Imagine, ME writing about bicycling or multi-day hikes! A year ago I
had trouble walking as a result of the weight. I couldn't dream of the
transformation that has happened - no, is happening - to me. Or, more
accurately, the transformation I made - fat people have things happen
to them, fit people make things happen.

To quote Mitch, one of ASD's regular posters, "GOD I'm so glad I'm not
lazy and sluggish anymore!"

> > My first hike was three miles about three weeks ago, and I was
> > exhausted. I want to take longer hikes; how much longer should my next
> > one be?
>
> Whatever feels comfortable and safe. My first hike was 3-days on the
> Appalachian Trail.

GASP! You don't do things by halves, do you, "comp"? Whatever made you
want to jump in at the deep end?

I arrived alone and was terribly equipped, but I
> bartered along the way and enjoyed it immensely. Keep your gear light
> and set a consistent pace (no fast then slow). You'll be surprised how
> far your feet will carry you. :-)

I think I'm going to try for four miles this weekend, perhaps at French
Creek State Park. Thanks for the advice, everyone!

Neil
385/280/220.

The Historian wrote:
> comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
> > The Historian wrote:
> > >
> > > Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
> > > be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
> > > - I've been a big fellow for a while.
> > >
> > > I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
> > > have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
> > > should bring?
> >
> > Hiking shoes, socks, and an adequate supply of water are a great start.
> > You can add to your gear as you discover what you're missing. I shop
> > REI, but any outdoors store that carries the big brands should be fine.
>
> OK. I'm shopping REI tomorrow. I'll post my purchases so all you hiking
> experts can criticize them. :-)
>
> > Socks: A good pair of socks prevents blisters by cushioning your feet,
> > stopping them from rubbing against your shoe, and wicking away sweat.
> > My $8 Wigwam Merino Wool socks lasted a dozen hikes. My $16 Bridgedale
> > Light Hiker polyester-blend socks have lasted a few years. Most socks
> > in that price range should be good.
>
> Do you use sock liners? I see they are recommended by people who wish
> to sell them to me. :-)
>

Take a look at the Thorlo socks on the REI site. I haven't used the
hiking socks but swear by their walking socks. I've used them for
years and really notice the difference when walking long distances.

Enjoy the hiking this weekend. I'll be doing two bike rides this
weekend. The usual Sunday morning ride and a Christmas Lights ride in
the evening. Hopefully it won't be tooooo cold

Beverly

comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
> You'll be surprised how
> far your feet will carry you. :-)

I just got back from a two mile hike. In sneakers - I haven't purchased
boots yet. I think I can manage 4 miles this weekend, with a little bit
of work. "GOD I'm so glad I'm not lazy or sluggish anymore!"

Neil
385/280/220

On 29 Nov 2006 06:34:10 -0800, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Do you use sock liners? I see they are recommended by people who wish
>to sell them to me. :-)

Personally, I just use plain old gym socks -- they work fine for me.
The only time I ever got blisters was when I wore expensive
double-layer Thorlo socks. Different strokes, I guess...

Something I do use -- both in my hiking shoes and running shoes -- is
Superfeet insole replacements. These provide more cushioning and arch
support than the insoles that come with the shoes.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"Chris Braun" <braun@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote in message
news:ndlrm2pel5b104cf3vbfe2ntlt2obsht06@4ax.com...
> On 29 Nov 2006 06:34:10 -0800, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Do you use sock liners? I see they are recommended by people who wish
>>to sell them to me. :-)
>
> Personally, I just use plain old gym socks -- they work fine for me.
> The only time I ever got blisters was when I wore expensive
> double-layer Thorlo socks. Different strokes, I guess...
>
> Something I do use -- both in my hiking shoes and running shoes -- is
> Superfeet insole replacements. These provide more cushioning and arch
> support than the insoles that come with the shoes.
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

I walk every day in "sneakers" -- actually cheap walking shoes from sam's
club. And white cotton athletic socks. They work fine on even surfaces
with no snow and light loads for distances up to 7 or 8 miles.

del

lynnekositsky@gmail.com wrote:

> It was a delight seeing Neil yesterday. I hope to see him--or, in the
> nicest possible way, I hope to see still less of him--when I return to
> Baltimore in the spring. What a fantastic role model he is!
>
> Miranda Mouse

Aw, shucks, Ms. Mouse, I'm not a role model. Perhaps a roll model.....

Neil
385/280/220
and not half the writer the Mouse is.

The Historian wrote:
>
> The first NSV I discovered on getting into my car, AKA The Neilmobile.
> There's a lot more space between me and the steering wheel. If this
> keeps up I may need to move the seat forward.

This week, I did move the seat closer to the steering wheel. That's a
small victory, I suppose.

Also, in another ten pounds or so I should be able to drop another pant
and shirt size. That will bring me to a size 44 waist, which I haven't
been since shortly after my high school graduation in 1984!

Meanwhile, I've maintained a weight of 280-282 over the past week,
despite overdoing it at Thanksgiving. Oh, the eggnog cheesecake......

Neil
385/280/220

The Historian wrote:
> comp_n_chess@hotmail.com wrote:
> > The Historian wrote:
> > >
> > > Good advice. Since you are both an avid hiker and a big guy, would you
> > > be so kind as to offer suggestions to a novice? A novice hiker, that is
> > > - I've been a big fellow for a while.
> > >
> > > I need to buy real hiking boots, that I know - these casual shoes I
> > > have aren't cutting it. Aside from shoes and socks, anything else I
> > > should bring?
> >
> > Hiking shoes, socks, and an adequate supply of water are a great start.
> > You can add to your gear as you discover what you're missing. I shop
> > REI, but any outdoors store that carries the big brands should be fine.
>
> OK. I'm shopping REI tomorrow. I'll post my purchases so all you hiking
> experts can criticize them. :-)

OK, I'm done shopping. I didn't get to REI, but I think I was
successful anyway I bought comfortable but relatively inexpensive
hiking boots by Hi-tec, the Outlander. They are labeled "light hiking",
which is all I will be doing for a few months probably - backpacking
will have to wait until summer, when I am lighter. If I do backpack,
I'll spring for the industrial strength footwear then.

The store I shopped - French Creek Outfitters - didn't have the socks
you recommended, so I purchased the Wigwam ones. I did buy liners as
well. If I'm going to act like a hiker, I should dress like one. :-)

I wore the boots all day yesterday without any problems. Today I'll
keep test-driving them. Tomorrow will be my 'official' debut as a
hiker.

Neil
385/280/220

On 2 Dec 2006 05:35:53 -0800, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>The Historian wrote:
>>
>> The first NSV I discovered on getting into my car, AKA The Neilmobile.
>> There's a lot more space between me and the steering wheel. If this
>> keeps up I may need to move the seat forward.
>
>This week, I did move the seat closer to the steering wheel. That's a
>small victory, I suppose.
>
>Also, in another ten pounds or so I should be able to drop another pant
>and shirt size. That will bring me to a size 44 waist, which I haven't
>been since shortly after my high school graduation in 1984!
>
>Meanwhile, I've maintained a weight of 280-282 over the past week,
>despite overdoing it at Thanksgiving. Oh, the eggnog cheesecake......
>
>Neil
>385/280/220

I enjoy reading about your NSVs, Neil. I'm happy for you, plus they
remind me all over again of my own pleasure at reaching those
milestones.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

Chris Braun wrote:
> On 2 Dec 2006 05:35:53 -0800, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >The Historian wrote:
> >>
> >> The first NSV I discovered on getting into my car, AKA The Neilmobile.
> >> There's a lot more space between me and the steering wheel. If this
> >> keeps up I may need to move the seat forward.
> >
> >This week, I did move the seat closer to the steering wheel. That's a
> >small victory, I suppose.
> >
> >Also, in another ten pounds or so I should be able to drop another pant
> >and shirt size. That will bring me to a size 44 waist, which I haven't
> >been since shortly after my high school graduation in 1984!
> >
> >Meanwhile, I've maintained a weight of 280-282 over the past week,
> >despite overdoing it at Thanksgiving. Oh, the eggnog cheesecake......
> >
> >Neil
> >385/280/220
>
> I enjoy reading about your NSVs, Neil. I'm happy for you, plus they
> remind me all over again of my own pleasure at reaching those
> milestones.

It's good to know that they serve some higher purpose other than
feeding my ego.

Neil
385/280/220

"The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> The Historian wrote:
>>
>> The first NSV I discovered on getting into my car, AKA The Neilmobile.
>> There's a lot more space between me and the steering wheel. If this
>> keeps up I may need to move the seat forward.
>
> This week, I did move the seat closer to the steering wheel. That's a
> small victory, I suppose.
>
> Also, in another ten pounds or so I should be able to drop another pant
> and shirt size. That will bring me to a size 44 waist, which I haven't
> been since shortly after my high school graduation in 1984!
>
> Meanwhile, I've maintained a weight of 280-282 over the past week,
> despite overdoing it at Thanksgiving. Oh, the eggnog cheesecake......

Eggnog cheesecake! Sounds yummy! My daughter saw an eggnog cake at Costco
yesterday and just couldn't live without it, so I got it. Had an itsy bitsy
sliver. It was sooooooo good, I'm sure I gained weight just from the pure
pleasure of eating it. <chuckle>
>