Re: At the supermarket today.

Robin King wrote:

> > I have absolute no reason to believe that yo yo myth.
>
> That's a pity. It's been documented. If your body
> senses it's going through hard times, it becomes more
> efficient at .keeping weight on. That's what peiple fight
> when they try to lose.

Then you should not have any issues providing us with credible cites.

In news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org,
Hunter <hunter@no-one.org> typed:
> Robin King wrote:
>
>>> I have absolute no reason to believe that yo yo myth.
>>
>> That's a pity. It's been documented. If your body
>> senses it's going through hard times, it becomes more
>> efficient at .keeping weight on. That's what peiple fight
>> when they try to lose.
>
> Then you should not have any issues providing us with credible cites.

Yo-yo is not a myth. It's what happens when someone comes off a "DIET" &
reverts to their previous eating habits.

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

"Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
> Robin King wrote:
>
>> > I have absolute no reason to believe that yo yo myth.
>>
>> That's a pity. It's been documented. If your body
>> senses it's going through hard times, it becomes more
>> efficient at .keeping weight on. That's what peiple fight
>> when they try to lose.
>
> Then you should not have any issues providing us with credible cites.

I keep very careful, daily records of my weight, calorie intake and exercise
since I started dieting last October. Six weeks into the program I hit a
wall. Eating the same, exercising the same, but for a week didn't lose any
weight ... in fact I gained a bit.

I started doing some research and found many references to "preservation
mode", "storage mode", etc. whereby the theory is that the body has a
biological program that will slow down the metabolism and begin storing fat
if it senses that the fat reserves are being burned too quickly.
The recommendations were to "shake up" the system by temporarily increasing
calorie intake and modifying the exercise routine to include short "bursts"
of very high intensity exercise.

I tried it and it worked. I broke through the "wall" and started losing
weight again. Since the first occurrence, this cycle has repeated several
times. Each time I modify the calories and exercise and the weight starts
to come off again.

Not scientific by any means but my results are consistent with the theory.

RCE
260/214/185

In news:F7WdnQAwR-hR4S3YnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com,
RCE <rce@nowhere.com> typed:
> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>> Robin King wrote:
>>
>>>> I have absolute no reason to believe that yo yo myth.
>>>
>>> That's a pity. It's been documented. If your body
>>> senses it's going through hard times, it becomes more
>>> efficient at .keeping weight on. That's what peiple fight
>>> when they try to lose.
>>
>> Then you should not have any issues providing us with credible cites.
>
> I keep very careful, daily records of my weight, calorie intake and
> exercise since I started dieting last October. Six weeks into the
> program I hit a wall. Eating the same, exercising the same, but for
> a week didn't lose any weight ... in fact I gained a bit.
>
> I started doing some research and found many references to
> "preservation mode", "storage mode", etc. whereby the theory is that
> the body has a biological program that will slow down the metabolism
> and begin storing fat if it senses that the fat reserves are being
> burned too quickly. The recommendations were to "shake up" the system by
> temporarily
> increasing calorie intake and modifying the exercise routine to
> include short "bursts" of very high intensity exercise.
>
> I tried it and it worked. I broke through the "wall" and started
> losing weight again. Since the first occurrence, this cycle has
> repeated several times. Each time I modify the calories and exercise
> and the weight starts to come off again.
>
> Not scientific by any means but my results are consistent with the
> theory.
> RCE
> 260/214/185

Google: leptin refeed!

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

RCE wrote:
> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
> > Robin King wrote:
> >
> >> > I have absolute no reason to believe that yo yo myth.
> >>
> >> That's a pity. It's been documented. If your body
> >> senses it's going through hard times, it becomes more
> >> efficient at .keeping weight on. That's what peiple fight
> >> when they try to lose.
> >
> > Then you should not have any issues providing us with credible cites.
>
> I keep very careful, daily records of my weight, calorie intake and exercise
> since I started dieting last October. Six weeks into the program I hit a
> wall. Eating the same, exercising the same, but for a week didn't lose any
> weight ... in fact I gained a bit.
>
> I started doing some research and found many references to "preservation
> mode", "storage mode", etc. whereby the theory is that the body has a
> biological program that will slow down the metabolism and begin storing fat
> if it senses that the fat reserves are being burned too quickly.
> The recommendations were to "shake up" the system by temporarily increasing
> calorie intake and modifying the exercise routine to include short "bursts"
> of very high intensity exercise.
>
> I tried it and it worked. I broke through the "wall" and started losing
> weight again. Since the first occurrence, this cycle has repeated several
> times. Each time I modify the calories and exercise and the weight starts
> to come off again.
>
> Not scientific by any means but my results are consistent with the theory.
>
> RCE
> 260/214/185

I yo-yoed for years, getting down into the 140's or 150's, then eating
everything in sight back to well over 200. When I was in my eating
phase, I have no idea what happened to my metabolism because I have no
clue as to how many calories I was consuming...other than to say a lot.
Last time it was 230 at least before I lost the weight for good ( I
think). I too noticed the reduced caloric requirement eating and
exercising the same. I went from needing 2,000 cal to maintain my
weight to about 1750. I'm not absolutely certain of the 1750, because
that's what I eat now and my weight stabilized and may have even gone
down a little, so it may be 1850 or so before I am done, but it is
lower than 2,000 for certain. My weight got down to 132, then crept
up...but just a little over about 5 months to 138 on the 2,000 cal.
Since eating 1750, it is about 136 over a 2 month period. There could
be a lot of factors... like sleeping more or moving slightly less, or
getting older, eating more salt and retaining a little more water..or
perhaps just being a little dehydrated initially, or scales not
working exactly right, etc., but I am very meticulous about counting
calories, the amount of exercise and it's been the same balance at the
gym all along, so I think it is a metabolic change. All the charts and
guidelines say I should be eating about 2,000 given my exercise level
and weight. dkw

On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>RCE wrote:
>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>> > Robin King wrote:

If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.

Go get a room with a gym nazi and get out of our hair.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones

In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> RCE wrote:
>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>> Robin King wrote:
>
> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
> over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.

I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that SSFA?

>
> Go get a room with a gym nazi and get out of our hair.

What's a gym nazi?



--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

Bully wrote:
> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> RCE wrote:
>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>
>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
>> over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.
>
> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that SSFA?
>
>>
>> Go get a room with a gym nazi and get out of our hair.
>
> What's a gym nazi?

Someone who apparently likes to take care of their health. I guess it's
better being a tub-o-lard and dying of a heart attack at 43.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:00:48 GMT, "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com>
wrote:

>Bully wrote:
>> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> RCE wrote:
>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>>
>>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
>>> over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.
>>
>> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that SSFA?
>>
>>>
>>> Go get a room with a gym nazi and get out of our hair.
>>
>> What's a gym nazi?
>
>Someone who apparently likes to take care of their health. I guess it's
>better being a tub-o-lard and dying of a heart attack at 43.
>

So do you want to exist or do you want to live? Trolls don't have
long life spans because their identities are so shallow they keep
being blown away by reality.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:20:05 -0000, "Bully"
<bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

>In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> RCE wrote:
>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>
>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
>> over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.
>
>I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that SSFA?

Yes I am ans we are not interested like I said.
>
>>
>> Go get a room with a gym nazi and get out of our hair.
>
>What's a gym nazi?

Someone who likes to bother the people in SSFA.


LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones

In news:jqc8r2t07pebvdu1qv2cvb37t9bj079hd3@4ax.com,
Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:20:05 -0000, "Bully"
> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>
>> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> RCE wrote:
>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>>
>>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
>>> over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.
>>
>> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that SSFA?
>
> Yes I am ans we are not interested like I said.

Stop cross-posting then you dozy tart.

>>
>>>
>>> Go get a room with a gym nazi and get out of our hair.
>>
>> What's a gym nazi?
>
> Someone who likes to bother the people in SSFA.

Oh, I thought it might have somthing to do with gyms, and nazis?

>
>
> LV
>
> "I rode a tank and held a general's rank
> When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."
>
> ---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones



--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:01:47 -0000, "Bully"
<bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

>In news:jqc8r2t07pebvdu1qv2cvb37t9bj079hd3@4ax.com,
>Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:20:05 -0000, "Bully"
>> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> RCE wrote:
>>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and obsessing
>>>> over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not interested.
>>>
>>> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that SSFA?
>>
>> Yes I am ans we are not interested like I said.
>
>Stop cross-posting then you dozy tart.

You first wanker.
LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones

In news:2pl9r2127cg16kvatn127a173hmv56v905@4ax.com,
Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:01:47 -0000, "Bully"
> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>
>> In news:jqc8r2t07pebvdu1qv2cvb37t9bj079hd3@4ax.com,
>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:20:05 -0000, "Bully"
>>> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>>>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>>>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RCE wrote:
>>>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and
>>>>> obsessing over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not
>>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that
>>>> SSFA?
>>>
>>> Yes I am ans we are not interested like I said.
>>
>> Stop cross-posting then you dozy tart.
>
> You first wanker.

Are you talking pidgin or just crap at punctuation?

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:49:12 -0000, "Bully"
<bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

>In news:2pl9r2127cg16kvatn127a173hmv56v905@4ax.com,
>Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:01:47 -0000, "Bully"
>> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:jqc8r2t07pebvdu1qv2cvb37t9bj079hd3@4ax.com,
>>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:20:05 -0000, "Bully"
>>>> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>>>>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>>>>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RCE wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and
>>>>>> obsessing over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that
>>>>> SSFA?
>>>>
>>>> Yes I am ans we are not interested like I said.
>>>
>>> Stop cross-posting then you dozy tart.
>>
>> You first wanker.
>
>Are you talking pidgin or just crap at punctuation?

Pigeons talk in your world? How cool is that...

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones

"Lady Veteran" <armyvet@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:t2ufr259glpirngkdsp1tcu8fgpe71og21@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:49:12 -0000, "Bully"
> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>
>>In news:2pl9r2127cg16kvatn127a173hmv56v905@4ax.com,
>>Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:01:47 -0000, "Bully"
>>> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In news:jqc8r2t07pebvdu1qv2cvb37t9bj079hd3@4ax.com,
>>>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:20:05 -0000, "Bully"
>>>>> <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In news:su95r2hmgntjoec0qptodh0pm63ublic35@4ax.com,
>>>>>> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> typed:
>>>>>>> On 19 Jan 2007 22:57:18 -0800, dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RCE wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Hunter" <hunter@no-one.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:45b038d1$1_2@x-privat.org...
>>>>>>>>>> Robin King wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you fools want to spend your life living in the gym and
>>>>>>> obsessing over ounces you can do it somewhere else. SSFA is not
>>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I take it you're posting from the fatties group, right? Is that
>>>>>> SSFA?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I am ans we are not interested like I said.
>>>>
>>>> Stop cross-posting then you dozy tart.
>>>
>>> You first wanker.
>>
>>Are you talking pidgin or just crap at punctuation?
>
> Pigeons talk in your world? How cool is that...
>

Stop crossposting your stupidity to irrelevant groups, troll.