sad to say

2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!

On Oct 4, 7:40 am, honeybunch <doro_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.

There is probably way more going on inside (where you cant see the
benefits) that doesnt even begin to reflect on a scale.
Read about how scales lie: http://skwigg.tripod.com/id12.html

> today at the gym:

Dont compare yourself to others.

> and trying to be good with the diet.

'Trying' doesnt cut it. Get it under control and make definate changes
to last.
The word 'diet' should just be what you eat on a daily basis and not
some restricted evil 'd-i-e-t' that starves your body into submission
only to gain back what it wasted away far too quickly. Eat healthy.
Learn about nutrition. Make small healthy changes to last a lifetime.
Balance exercise and healthy eating with consistancy.
Who cares if you lose 1lb every two weeks? Thats like 26lbs in a year
- where do you want to be in a year from now? Two years from now?
Think longterm and you wont be sorry you stayed on track.


joanne

"honeybunch" <doro_iams@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!
>
"7 am black coffee
9 am oatmeal, chopped apple, soy nuts, f/f soy-milk, black coffee
2 PM brown rice, broccoli, ginger, scallion, poached salmon.
arugula, avocado, olive oil, tomato. green tea. honeydew, figs, lime
juice
walked 45 minutes
4 chocolate covered dates with a nut inside each from Dubai.
almond butter, honey, 2 slices bread, f/f soy-milk, apple
walked 45 minutes"

Doesn't sound too draconian to me. How fast did you walk? And what were
the quantities of the above?
My guess.
4 dates 300 calories
Almond butter 3T 300 calories
honey, 100 calories
2 bread 200 calories,
soy milk 100 calories
apple 50 calories
so supper was 1050

Lunch,
brown rice 100 calories
veggies ah call it zero.
avocado (1/2) 150 calories
olive oil 1T 125 calories
salmon 150 calories (4 oz)
figs (3) 100 cal.

625 for lunch

Oatmeal 200
apple 50
soy nuts 100
milk 50

Breakfast was 400

day total was 2075

Adds right up. take away 400 or so for the walking and you are about
even if you are a 150 lb sedentary (when not walking) woman.

Just guessing at the calories but if this is typical, weight loss not
going to be speedy

"honeybunch" <doro_iams@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!

You just don't see the big picture. Whenever you start a new exercise
regimen, the body takes in and retains extra water in the muscles. This can
account for up to 5 lbs. Chances are very good that you lost more than a lb
of fat but the scale doesn't reflect that because of the water gain. A good
measure of progress is to take tape measurements of things like waist, hips,
thighs, etc. Check this like every month.

Very important not to compare yourself to others. I have learned this the
hard way. Best to just compare yourself to you. Set goals, meet and
surpass them, and set new ones. In a year, you won't recognize yourself.

Don't give up.

honeybunch wrote:
>
> 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!

Did you wait at least 2,5 hours after a meal before doing your
exercise, and did you wait half an hour after the exercise before
taking a next meal ? Glycogen is the enemy when it comes to exercise
and losing weight.

On Oct 4, 10:12 pm, Feranija <feranija@net....> wrote:
> honeybunch wrote:
>
> > 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> > today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> > machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> > effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> > her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> > marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> > in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> > next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> > well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> > walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> > joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!
>
> Did you wait at least 2,5 hours after a meal before doing your
> exercise, and did you wait half an hour after the exercise before
> taking a next meal ? Glycogen is the enemy when it comes to exercise
> and losing weight.

Don't believe everything you read, Honeybunch :-).

Chris (who managed to lose 130 lbs without worrying about this stuff)
262/130s/130s

On Oct 4, 10:40 am, honeybunch <doro_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!

Well, you need to stop comparing yourself to others. You'll get
better at the lifting and swimming and stuff. Whether or not you get
to be just as strong or as fast as these people is immaterial; you'll
get better for you.

As to weight loss, others have already given some useful advice.
There are things like adding muscle and retaining more fluid (which
can happen when you start exercising) that can make the scale read
higher.

But, as Del suggested, you should look at calorie consumption. It's
possible that you're making healthier food choices than you were
before but consuming approximately the same number of calories. If
so, you're probably not going to lose very quickly. It's not uncommon
for people who start exercising to compensate for it with additional
eating without realizing that they're doing so. There was a time,
before I got serious about weight loss (and started tracking
calories), when I'd go for an hour walk and then come home and drink a
20 ounce glass of orange juice. Orange juice is healthy, but in that
quantity it probably made up for the calories I'd burned walking.

It's really worth doing some measuring and logging when you start out
so you can be sure you know the facts.

Chris
262/130s/130s

On Oct 4, 10:40 am, honeybunch <doro_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you are feeling pretty sorry for yourself - and this attitude
isn't going to help you one bit.

1. Don't compare yourself to anyone else. Everyone's life
circumstances are different, everyone's health and body is different,
everyone's activity preferences are different, and everyone has a
different metabolism, and a different best weight for them. This isn't
about anyone but you. Not fair, but true.

You will lose or gain an amount specific to you when you eat X amount
and get Y amount of exercise. When I was first trying to lose the
greater part of my overweight I was on a medically supervised diet. It
drove me crazy because they thought I should be losing amount A per
month, and even though I stuck like glue to the program, I lost less
than that. I had to learn that what anyone else can or can't do is
entirely irrelevent to MY situation. My maintenance calories per day
are about 1600 or so. If I ate what you ate on your diet, I'd be
gaining weight.I can't tell you that I like that I can't eat like most
people, but its reality if I want to stay at a healthy weight for my
body.

2. If you are keeping a complete and accurate food diary (which should
include weighing portions at least initially), calculate how many
calories per day you are taking in. Weighing portions can be
important, because some people have different notions about
appropriate portion sizes, and you have to "learn" what size is
appropriate for your goals (i.e. when I first started on the journey,
I was totally floored by what I saw as the teeny size a serving of
meat was).

Its not rocket science. If you find you are plateauing on a given
regime of diet and exercise, you have two choices. Reduce calories, or
up your activity level. Reducing calories doesn't have to mean
starving to death. You can look at what you eat, and figure out better
choices (i.e. up your intake of fruits and veg, and reduce the
starches and fats).

3. This is a big picture, long term thing you are tackling. In other
words,
this about the rest of your life. This isn't something you jump on,
get fixed and then relax. Its about permanent, sustainable changes in
habit, which is HARD. Losing weight is actually pretty darned easy - I
mean look at Kirstie Allie. Boom its off, boom its back, boom its off,
boom its back. Not healthy. Maintaining the loss by living differently
forever is the hard part.

Mary G.
Year 3 of sustaining.

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:40:28 -0700, honeybunch wrote:

> 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!

OK, one, if you are closer to goal, often the weight loss comes
slower. So don't stress, the pound loss is A-OK.

Two, what the other person or persons are able to do is not relevant.
Work for your own personal records. It's what YOU can achieve that
counts. Don't compare yourself. Keep going and you will find that you
end up being able to do some things that are hard for others.

Three, eating right and exercising add up to health benefits, these
DON'T SHOW ON THE STUPID SCALE... start thinking about that and feel
the joy!

So, today, I swam, for the first time since I was like a child in a
swim class, AN ENTIRE MILE! No, it wasn't fast... took me over an hour
to do it, but I did it, the whole dang thing.

Oh, and my blood pressure, which use to be around 120/80 is 108/65.

I've recently seen 225 on the scale... it's coming, if slowly. But,
I've noticed that my previously somewhat mushy biceps are now firmer!
Even hubby was surprised when he felt them. And I am MUCH stronger
than I used to be in water aerobics. I might add that I did a full 45
minute water aerobics class just before swimming my first mile in like
4 decades...

So patience... keep working, and have fun on the journey. Don't obsess
over the scale!

--
Cynthia
262/226/152

"Cynthia P" <nospam@dontwannit.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:40:28 -0700, honeybunch wrote:
>
>> 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
>> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
>> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
>> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
>> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
>> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
>> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
>> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
>> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
>> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
>> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!
>
> OK, one, if you are closer to goal, often the weight loss comes
> slower. So don't stress, the pound loss is A-OK.
>
> Two, what the other person or persons are able to do is not relevant.
> Work for your own personal records. It's what YOU can achieve that
> counts. Don't compare yourself. Keep going and you will find that you
> end up being able to do some things that are hard for others.
>
> Three, eating right and exercising add up to health benefits, these
> DON'T SHOW ON THE STUPID SCALE... start thinking about that and feel
> the joy!
>
> So, today, I swam, for the first time since I was like a child in a
> swim class, AN ENTIRE MILE! No, it wasn't fast... took me over an hour
> to do it, but I did it, the whole dang thing.
>
> Oh, and my blood pressure, which use to be around 120/80 is 108/65.
>
> I've recently seen 225 on the scale... it's coming, if slowly. But,
> I've noticed that my previously somewhat mushy biceps are now firmer!
> Even hubby was surprised when he felt them. And I am MUCH stronger
> than I used to be in water aerobics. I might add that I did a full 45
> minute water aerobics class just before swimming my first mile in like
> 4 decades...
>
> So patience... keep working, and have fun on the journey. Don't obsess
> over the scale!
>
> --
> Cynthia
> 262/226/152

Congratulations on the mile.
And, what is a rotary hip machine? I googled and looked at pictures and
still can't figure out what it does. What is the motion?

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:04:01 -0500, Del Cecchi wrote:


>
> Congratulations on the mile.
> And, what is a rotary hip machine? I googled and looked at pictures and
> still can't figure out what it does. What is the motion?

Thanks... I was pretty sore after, still feeling it today in the
shoulders, but could've been worse.

I have no idea what the rotary hip machine the OP mentioned is. Sounds
wild... and more than a little bit scary, LOL!

--
Cynthia
262/226/152

On Oct 5, 10:04 pm, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> "Cynthia P" <nos...@dontwannit.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ccthju40zedo$.1sqfoeb5wd3bs.dlg@40tude.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:40:28 -0700, honeybunch wrote:
>
> >> 2 weeks of dieting and exercise has produced the loss of one pound.
> >> today at the gym: an anoerexic looking female was on the rotary hip
> >> machine. and then I got on it and saw that she was doing 148 pounds
> >> effortlessly! I do 28. but i take full swings. each ropy muscle on
> >> her small legs was visible as she walked away. Maybe she is a
> >> marathon runner in disguise. In the pool a male covered the 25 yards
> >> in 13 stokes effortlessly and fast, over and over. the female in the
> >> next lane looked picayune by comparison, even though she was swimming
> >> well. and me...absolutely futile. I lost one pound in 2 weeks of
> >> walking miles and miles and trying to be good with the diet. My only
> >> joy is: hey, I didnt gain any weight!
>
> > OK, one, if you are closer to goal, often the weight loss comes
> > slower. So don't stress, the pound loss is A-OK.
>
> > Two, what the other person or persons are able to do is not relevant.
> > Work for your own personal records. It's what YOU can achieve that
> > counts. Don't compare yourself. Keep going and you will find that you
> > end up being able to do some things that are hard for others.
>
> > Three, eating right and exercising add up to health benefits, these
> > DON'T SHOW ON THE STUPID SCALE... start thinking about that and feel
> > the joy!
>
> > So, today, I swam, for the first time since I was like a child in a
> > swim class, AN ENTIRE MILE! No, it wasn't fast... took me over an hour
> > to do it, but I did it, the whole dang thing.
>
> > Oh, and my blood pressure, which use to be around 120/80 is 108/65.
>
> > I've recently seen 225 on the scale... it's coming, if slowly. But,
> > I've noticed that my previously somewhat mushy biceps are now firmer!
> > Even hubby was surprised when he felt them. And I am MUCH stronger
> > than I used to be in water aerobics. I might add that I did a full 45
> > minute water aerobics class just before swimming my first mile in like
> > 4 decades...
>
> > So patience... keep working, and have fun on the journey. Don't obsess
> > over the scale!
>
> > --
> > Cynthia
> > 262/226/152
>
> Congratulations on the mile.
> And, what is a rotary hip machine? I googled and looked at pictures and
> still can't figure out what it does. What is the motion?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm envisioning on ro the other of these (though I could of course be
completed wrong):

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...Adduction.html

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...Abduction.html

Both of these use the same machine -- just a change of setting. (I do
a seated version of these.)

Chris
262/130s/130s

"Chris" <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> I'm envisioning on ro the other of these (though I could of course be
> completed wrong):
>
> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...Adduction.html
>
> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...Abduction.html
>
> Both of these use the same machine -- just a change of setting. (I do
> a seated version of these.)
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
>
Thanks. Looks like sort of a specialized exercise.

del

On Oct 7, 12:18 pm, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> "Chris" <braun_ch...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191773483.670429.292790@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...> I'm envisioning on ro the other of these (though I could of course be
> > completed wrong):
>
> >http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ndHipAdduction....
>
> >http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...Abduction.html
>
> > Both of these use the same machine -- just a change of setting. (I do
> > a seated version of these.)
>
> > Chris
> > 262/130s/130s
>
> Thanks. Looks like sort of a specialized exercise.
>
> del

Yes this is the machine. I was going to wait to reply until I saw it
again and write down what it does. I kind of like it. I use it for
range of motion in all 4 thigh muscles: hamstrings, quads, aductors
and abductors, I think and it makes the legs feel kind of free. The
seated version in my gym is a bit different and does just the
abductors and the aductors.