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Old 01-24-2007, 11:00 AM
RCE
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I am getting a big kick out of the noticeable results of my diet and
exercise routine, as are my somewhat envious sports orientated sons and
brother. I've never been a big exercise guy ... more of a weekend warrior
at the softball field or basketball court, so the progress I am making is
cracking everyone up.

FWIT, here's my routine:

1. Been dieting since Oct 23rd and have dropped from 260 lbs to a current
211 lbs. Most noticeable has been the reduction of the beer belly that took
30 something years to build. For the past week or so I've been upping the
calorie intake as I approach the final goal of 185-190 to slow the weight
loss rate down and arrive at a "soft landing". At least, that's the plan.

2. Exercise consists of alternating "light days" and "heavy days". I've
been doing this now for over 3 months and have been slowly increasing the
intensity. The light day workout currently consists of:

3.5 to 4.0 miles on a combination of the treadmill and elliptical. I go at
a rate of about 3.8-4.2 mph with an incline of 4 degrees on the treadmill
and a somewhat demanding "hill" program on the elliptical. I am not a
runner ... never was ... but I have found I can maintain a faster rate on
the elliptical compared to the treadmill.

Then ... 50 sit-ups on one of those ABS lounger chairs while holding an 8 lb
weight behind my neck.
Then ... 50 sit-ups on an inclined bench, again with an 8 lb weight. I
alternate from straight to turning the shoulders to the right, then the left
as I do these.
Then ... 50 alternating "touch your toes" from a standing position.

The "heavy day" consists of a shorter cardiovascular workout on the
elliptical/treadmill ... I only do about 2 miles. I then repeat the sit-up
routine described above. Then ... a series of three weight lifting sets ...
bench presses, free curls, machine "pulls" for chest and back, pull down for
the triceps, and some sitting curls. I push it until it hurts and record
the weight and number of reps for each set. Every heavy day I force myself
to either do more reps at a weight or ... if the reps start to exceed 14 ...
I add another 10 lbs of weight. This workout is particularly exhausting.

The results are really starting to show, and I am getting a big kick out of
it. My belly is almost flat ... still have about an inch of flab, but it's
slowly going away, as are the extra skin flaps that resulted from the weight
loss. Below the flab I can feel hard muscle. My arms, upper chest and
shoulders have begun to noticeably become thicker and heavier with
pronounced muscle definition.
My brother, five years younger than I, came over the other day. He was
always the "jock" in the family, playing a lot of sports and working out but
has let himself go in the past few years. I was never into exercise and he
was always on my case about my "softness".

We went down to my exercise room and I was showing him the routine I use
and, as I took off my shirt to use the weights he almost fell over in shock.
Cracked me up. Now, "I" am the jock and he's motivated to catch up.

Well worth the effort.

RCE

260/211/185




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Old 01-24-2007, 09:43 PM
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:22:00 -0500, RCE wrote:

> Then ... 50 sit-ups on one of those ABS lounger chairs while holding an 8 lb
> weight behind my neck.
> Then ... 50 sit-ups on an inclined bench, again with an 8 lb weight. I
> alternate from straight to turning the shoulders to the right, then the left
> as I do these.
> Then ... 50 alternating "touch your toes" from a standing position.


See below.

> The "heavy day" consists of a shorter cardiovascular workout on the
> elliptical/treadmill ... I only do about 2 miles. I then repeat the sit-up
> routine described above. Then ... a series of three weight lifting sets ...
> bench presses, free curls, machine "pulls" for chest and back, pull down for
> the triceps, and some sitting curls. I push it until it hurts and record
> the weight and number of reps for each set. Every heavy day I force myself
> to either do more reps at a weight or ... if the reps start to exceed 14 ...
> I add another 10 lbs of weight. This workout is particularly exhausting.


Drop the ab exercises, they are superfluous at this stage of your
routine.


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Old 01-24-2007, 11:39 PM
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"RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:OKmdncPzBpikuCrYnZ2dnUVZ_v-
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> The "heavy day" consists of a shorter cardiovascular workout on the
> elliptical/treadmill ... I only do about 2 miles. I then repeat the
> sit-up routine described above. Then ... a series of three weight lifting
> sets ... bench presses, free curls, machine "pulls" for chest and back,
> pull down for the triceps, and some sitting curls. I push it until it
> hurts and record the weight and number of reps for each set. Every heavy
> day I force myself to either do more reps at a weight or ... if the reps
> start to exceed 14 ... I add another 10 lbs of weight. This workout is
> particularly exhausting.


Have you considered resistance training (weight lifting) for your legs/lower
body? Like squats or deadlifts? I'm sure your routine is great, but the
biggest muscles of your body are in your lower half, and it doesn't look
like they are getting much of a workout.


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Old 01-24-2007, 11:39 PM
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"determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>
> Have you considered resistance training (weight lifting) for your
> legs/lower body? Like squats or deadlifts? I'm sure your routine is
> great, but the biggest muscles of your body are in your lower half, and it
> doesn't look like they are getting much of a workout.
>


I should. I have a leg lift and a leg curl machine that I used to use on
alternate days from the upper body workout. I don't know what you call the
machines. All the equipment is older stuff that is probably out of date,
but they work so I use them

I stopped using the leg stuff because I figured I was working the legs
enough doing the elliptical with resistance and the treadmill at an incline.

I've been toying with the idea of getting another 35 lb bar and weight set
just to do deadlifts.
I exercise alone in the house and don't have a spotter, so I need to be a
little careful with the free weights.

Here's some pictures of the equipment I have in the home gym. The leg
workout equipment is in the first picture ... on either side of the
elliptical machine.

http://www.eisboch.com/gym

RCE





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Old 01-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:57:48 -0500, RCE wrote:

> I stopped using the leg stuff because I figured I was working the legs
> enough doing the elliptical with resistance and the treadmill at an incline.


And you are.

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Old 01-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:57:48 -0500, RCE wrote:

> I've been toying with the idea of getting another 35 lb bar and weight set
> just to do deadlifts.


A 45lb Olympic bar will last you a lifetime, it will allow the plates to
rotate as you pull the bar from the floor.

> I exercise alone in the house and don't have a spotter, so I need to be a
> little careful with the free weights.


Then don't push to max, there's no need anyway.

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:19 AM
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"Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:57:48 -0500, RCE wrote:
>
>> I've been toying with the idea of getting another 35 lb bar and weight
>> set
>> just to do deadlifts.

>
> A 45lb Olympic bar will last you a lifetime, it will allow the plates to
> rotate as you pull the bar from the floor.
>
>> I exercise alone in the house and don't have a spotter, so I need to be a
>> little careful with the free weights.

>
> Then don't push to max, there's no need anyway.
>



Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights given
that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy workouts
every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be done 3 or 4
times a week.

It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so many
years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished with them.
:-)

RCE


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Old 01-25-2007, 01:21 PM
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"RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1xtj9lbdtwb4i$.yfdhdj15ow0z$.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>
>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:57:48 -0500, RCE wrote:
>>
>>> I've been toying with the idea of getting another 35 lb bar and
>>> weight set
>>> just to do deadlifts.

>>
>> A 45lb Olympic bar will last you a lifetime, it will allow the plates
>> to
>> rotate as you pull the bar from the floor.
>>
>>> I exercise alone in the house and don't have a spotter, so I need to
>>> be a
>>> little careful with the free weights.

>>
>> Then don't push to max, there's no need anyway.
>>

>
>
> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights
> given that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy
> workouts every other day is too often. I've read that it should only
> be done 3 or 4 times a week.
>
> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so
> many years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished
> with them. :-)
>
> RCE

Isn't "every other day" and "3 or 4 times a week" pretty much the same
thing? Something about 7 days?


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Old 01-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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"RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights given
> that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy workouts
> every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be done 3 or
> 4 times a week.
>
> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so many
> years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished with them.
> :-)
>
> RCE


Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
--
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:03 PM
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"Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:_8qdnYKVTMSe1iXYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
>
>>
>> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights given
>> that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy
>> workouts every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be
>> done 3 or 4 times a week.
>>
>> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so
>> many years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished with
>> them. :-)
>>
>> RCE

>
> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
> --
> the volleyballchick
>


"Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)


RCE


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Old 01-25-2007, 04:17 PM
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"RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbidnez@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:51rqkuF1lilojU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:_8qdnYKVTMSe1iXYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights
>>> given that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy
>>> workouts every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be
>>> done 3 or 4 times a week.
>>>
>>> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so
>>> many years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished
>>> with them. :-)
>>>
>>> RCE

>>
>> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
>> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
>> --
>> the volleyballchick
>>

>
> "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)
>

Seriously, she knows her stuff. It's a really good way to get some good
information. Unlike the troll that has hit this group lately pretending he
knows anything.
--
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:18 PM
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On Jan 25, 10:21 am, "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote in messagenews:G6KdnZ89D5i_XSXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@gigan ews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:51rqkuF1lilojU1@mid.individual.net...

>
> >> "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >>news:_8qdnYKVTMSe1iXYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@giganews.c om...

>
> >>> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights
> >>> given that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy
> >>> workouts every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be
> >>> done 3 or 4 times a week.

>
> >>> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so
> >>> many years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished
> >>> with them. :-)

>
> >>> RCE

>
> >> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
> >>http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
> >> --
> >> the volleyballchick

>
> > "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)Seriously, she knows her stuff. It's a really good way to get some good

> information. Unlike the troll that has hit this group lately pretending he
> knows anything.
> --
> the volleyballchick- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


The site may be geared toward women but it has information suitable for
everyone. "Mistress Krista" is well known for her knowledge in weight
training.

Are you saying you don't want the info from Krista specifically or just
from a woman??

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:18 PM
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On Jan 25, 11:27 am, "Beverly" <Beverly.Ow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 10:21 am, "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote in messagenews:G6KdnZ89D5i_XSXYnZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@gigan ews.com...

>
> > > "Nunya B." <nunyadayumbid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:51rqkuF1lilojU1@mid.individual.net...

>
> > >> "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:_8qdnYKVTMSe1iXYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@giganews.c om...

>
> > >>> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights
> > >>> given that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy
> > >>> workouts every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be
> > >>> done 3 or 4 times a week.

>
> > >>> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so
> > >>> many years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished
> > >>> with them. :-)

>
> > >>> RCE

>
> > >> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
> > >>http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
> > >> --
> > >> the volleyballchick

>
> > > "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)Seriously, she knows her stuff. It's a really good way to get some good

> > information. Unlike the troll that has hit this group lately pretending he
> > knows anything.
> > --
> > the volleyballchick- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -The site may be geared toward women but it has information suitable for

> everyone. "Mistress Krista" is well known for her knowledge in weight
> training.
>
> Are you saying you don't want the info from Krista specifically or just
> from a woman??- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


I think Google has made it even harder to post with their latest update


Anyone else posting from Google that can give me some hints other than
just using my newsreader from home

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:18 PM
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On Jan 25, 6:35 am, "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)


Actually she has lots of valuable info on her site, not gender specific
I might add. Be open to learning. ;-)

You could be doing lower body stuff that doesnt require much equipment
... squats, as someone suggested is a great exercise for using those
larger leg muscles. Some say using the largest muscles in your body
helps to increase growth hormone/testosterone to to signal your muscles
to grow more. Squats, lunges, calf raises etc are all leg shapers (and
some are also butt removers) that you just wont get from cardio type
elliptical work or even walking uphill. Its just not the same
intensity.
Also, since you have been pretty much doing the same exercises for a
few months now, (altho you mention you do increase the weights) your
body tends to adapt and adding some new stuff to the mix will help keep
your routine fresh and challenging.
For some squat variations:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness23.htm
See various squats, lunges, extenions, curls and whatnot here:
http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/ex/all_exercises.asp
Some other ab exercises (Ab Boot Camp):
http://www.musclemedia.com/training/BootCamp.asp


And you know, its not just the changes on the outside, think about the
changes that are happening on the inside! After losing what almost
50lbs (whew! good job so far!) just think of how your insides are
thanking you! Your heart and its arteries are probably sighing relief
that you undertook these steps to get healthier! :-)




joanne

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:18 PM
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"Beverly" <Beverly.Owens@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> The site may be geared toward women but it has information suitable for
> everyone. "Mistress Krista" is well known for her knowledge in weight
> training.
>
> Are you saying you don't want the info from Krista specifically or just
> from a woman??
>



Naw, it was just a poor attempt at humor. I browsed through the site and
will go back and read in more detail.

I've been reviewing many sites that have various techniques for both weight
loss and weight training. What I look for is the common denominators
contributing to results, not a unique, single method. Her site appears to
have some good information and I appreciate the link.

RCE


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Old 01-25-2007, 06:18 PM
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"joanne" <jgrrl2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 25, 6:35 am, "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> > "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)

>
> Actually she has lots of valuable info on her site, not gender specific
> I might add. Be open to learning. ;-)
>
> You could be doing lower body stuff that doesnt require much equipment
> .. squats, as someone suggested is a great exercise for using those
> larger leg muscles. Some say using the largest muscles in your body
> helps to increase growth hormone/testosterone to to signal your muscles
> to grow more. Squats, lunges, calf raises etc are all leg shapers (and
> some are also butt removers) that you just wont get from cardio type
> elliptical work or even walking uphill. Its just not the same
> intensity.
> Also, since you have been pretty much doing the same exercises for a
> few months now, (altho you mention you do increase the weights) your
> body tends to adapt and adding some new stuff to the mix will help keep
> your routine fresh and challenging.
> For some squat variations:
> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness23.htm
> See various squats, lunges, extenions, curls and whatnot here:
> http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/ex/all_exercises.asp
> Some other ab exercises (Ab Boot Camp):
> http://www.musclemedia.com/training/BootCamp.asp
>
>
> And you know, its not just the changes on the outside, think about the
> changes that are happening on the inside! After losing what almost
> 50lbs (whew! good job so far!) just think of how your insides are
> thanking you! Your heart and its arteries are probably sighing relief
> that you undertook these steps to get healthier! :-)
>
>
>
>
> joanne
>


Thanks for the recommendation and the links. Part of the enjoyment of this
new "lifestyle" is learning. I certainly didn't mean to cast any negative
reaction to Krista's website. I just got a kick out of the "Mistress Krista"
signature. I guess I am too old fashioned.

Based on some of the recommendations from sites and this NG, I am going to
integrate some lower heavy weight workouts into my routine. And you're
right. I haven't felt this healthy and good in 30 something years.

RCE
260/211/185




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Old 01-25-2007, 07:15 PM
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:28:24 -0500, "RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"joanne" <jgrrl2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1169744373.638660.304520@m58g2000cwm.googleg roups.com...
>>
>>
>> On Jan 25, 6:35 am, "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> > "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)

>>
>> Actually she has lots of valuable info on her site, not gender specific
>> I might add. Be open to learning. ;-)
>>
>> You could be doing lower body stuff that doesnt require much equipment
>> .. squats, as someone suggested is a great exercise for using those
>> larger leg muscles. Some say using the largest muscles in your body
>> helps to increase growth hormone/testosterone to to signal your muscles
>> to grow more. Squats, lunges, calf raises etc are all leg shapers (and
>> some are also butt removers) that you just wont get from cardio type
>> elliptical work or even walking uphill. Its just not the same
>> intensity.
>> Also, since you have been pretty much doing the same exercises for a
>> few months now, (altho you mention you do increase the weights) your
>> body tends to adapt and adding some new stuff to the mix will help keep
>> your routine fresh and challenging.
>> For some squat variations:
>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness23.htm
>> See various squats, lunges, extenions, curls and whatnot here:
>> http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/ex/all_exercises.asp
>> Some other ab exercises (Ab Boot Camp):
>> http://www.musclemedia.com/training/BootCamp.asp
>>
>>
>> And you know, its not just the changes on the outside, think about the
>> changes that are happening on the inside! After losing what almost
>> 50lbs (whew! good job so far!) just think of how your insides are
>> thanking you! Your heart and its arteries are probably sighing relief
>> that you undertook these steps to get healthier! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> joanne
>>

>
>Thanks for the recommendation and the links. Part of the enjoyment of this
>new "lifestyle" is learning. I certainly didn't mean to cast any negative
>reaction to Krista's website. I just got a kick out of the "Mistress Krista"
>signature. I guess I am too old fashioned.
>
>Based on some of the recommendations from sites and this NG, I am going to
>integrate some lower heavy weight workouts into my routine. And you're
>right. I haven't felt this healthy and good in 30 something years.
>
>RCE
>260/211/185
>
>
>


Another great exercise resource -- with also some good nutritional
information -- is www.exrx.net. It provides instructions -- with
little video clips -- on how to perform hundreds (maybe thousands) of
different exercises. This is very useful in helping to ensure you are
using correct form and avoiding risk of injury.



Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:39 PM
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On Jan 25, 11:04 am, Chris Braun <b...@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:28:24 -0500, "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >"joanne" <jgr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1169744373.638660.304520@m58g2000cwm.googleg roups.com...

>
> >> On Jan 25, 6:35 am, "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>> > "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)

>
> >> Actually she has lots of valuable info on her site, not gender specific
> >> I might add. Be open to learning. ;-)

>
> >> You could be doing lower body stuff that doesnt require much equipment
> >> .. squats, as someone suggested is a great exercise for using those
> >> larger leg muscles. Some say using the largest muscles in your body
> >> helps to increase growth hormone/testosterone to to signal your muscles
> >> to grow more. Squats, lunges, calf raises etc are all leg shapers (and
> >> some are also butt removers) that you just wont get from cardio type
> >> elliptical work or even walking uphill. Its just not the same
> >> intensity.
> >> Also, since you have been pretty much doing the same exercises for a
> >> few months now, (altho you mention you do increase the weights) your
> >> body tends to adapt and adding some new stuff to the mix will help keep
> >> your routine fresh and challenging.
> >> For some squat variations:
> >>http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness23.htm
> >> See various squats, lunges, extenions, curls and whatnot here:
> >>http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/ex/all_exercises.asp
> >> Some other ab exercises (Ab Boot Camp):
> >>http://www.musclemedia.com/training/BootCamp.asp

>
> >> And you know, its not just the changes on the outside, think about the
> >> changes that are happening on the inside! After losing what almost
> >> 50lbs (whew! good job so far!) just think of how your insides are
> >> thanking you! Your heart and its arteries are probably sighing relief
> >> that you undertook these steps to get healthier! :-)

>
> >> joanne

>
> >Thanks for the recommendation and the links. Part of the enjoyment of this
> >new "lifestyle" is learning. I certainly didn't mean to cast any negative
> >reaction to Krista's website. I just got a kick out of the "Mistress Krista"
> >signature. I guess I am too old fashioned.

>
> >Based on some of the recommendations from sites and this NG, I am going to
> >integrate some lower heavy weight workouts into my routine. And you're
> >right. I haven't felt this healthy and good in 30 something years.

>
> >RCE
> >260/211/185Another great exercise resource -- with also some good nutritional

> information --


iswww.exrx.net.

It provides instructions -- with
> little video clips -- on how to perform hundreds (maybe thousands) of
> different exercises. This is very useful in helping to ensure you are
> using correct form and avoiding risk of injury.
>


That site kicks ass!!! : D

Martha
184/151/140

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:17 AM
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:04:42 GMT, Chris Braun wrote:

> Another great exercise resource -- with also some good nutritional
> information -- is www.exrx.net. It provides instructions -- with
> little video clips -- on how to perform hundreds (maybe thousands) of
> different exercises. This is very useful in helping to ensure you are
> using correct form and avoiding risk of injury.


Correct form is highly individualistic. Correct approaches to lifting is
what they show but any attempt to copy verbatim is going to be
counterproductive.

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:17 AM
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:21:02 -0600, Nunya B. wrote:

>>> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
>>> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
>>> --
>>> the volleyballchick
>>>

>>
>> "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)
>>

> Seriously, she knows her stuff. It's a really good way to get some good
> information. Unlike the troll that has hit this group lately pretending he
> knows anything.
> --
> the volleyballchick


LOL

I assume you mean Mu. Tell you what, whoever you are, if you would like
to debate Mu on anything regarding body motion, I am here to anytime you
would like.

I would give you a warning of caution, best Google Mu before you get
Mu-ed.

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:17 AM
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:35:08 -0500, RCE wrote:

>> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
>> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
>> --
>> the volleyballchick
>>

>
> "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)
>
> RCE


Nope, she's cool and her website is well written for those looking for
new and advanced advice. I don't agree with her on everything, so what
else is new?

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:17 AM
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:15:20 -0500, RCE wrote:

>>> I exercise alone in the house and don't have a spotter, so I need to be a
>>> little careful with the free weights.

>>
>> Then don't push to max, there's no need anyway.
>>

>
> Good advice. I really should take a primer on working with weights given
> that I am a bit of a novice. For example, I am wondering if heavy workouts
> every other day is too often. I've read that it should only be done 3 or 4
> times a week.


This is a matter of conditioning. Think about longshoreman, their
lifting and manual labor (routines) can be considered severe to you and
I. It is more a matter of conditioning to the tasks, learning them from
the standpoint of minimizing motion and maximizing effort.

> It's amazing that after sitting behind a desk pushing a pencil for so many
> years that I find the workouts enjoyable ... once I am finished with them.
> :-)
>
> RCE


The physiological benefits are pronounced. One word of caution.

Few keep up with the routines you posted over any period of time and,
most probably, your time will end as well. Injury, job change, whatever.
Enjoy what you are doing but always keep a keen eye on reality. Reality
= as you get older, mobility and cardiovacular heealth will become
predominant. As this happens, think squats over leg machines, deadlifts
and any other full body movements over limited single-joint based ones
(like curls).

Good luck.

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:17 AM
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On 25 Jan 2007 08:59:33 -0800, joanne wrote:

> Squats, lunges, calf raises etc are all leg shapers (and
> some are also butt removers) that you just wont get from cardio type
> elliptical work or even walking uphill. Its just not the same
> intensity.


One has to pick their goals. Hypertrophy, muscular conditioning, motion
capabilities, CV, body shaping....Squats are ltd "shapers" since lift
mass has to be controlled. Same with lunges. Personally, I prefer
describing movements so a calf raise is actually a heel lift, YMMV.

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Old 01-26-2007, 03:20 AM
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"Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:21:02 -0600, Nunya B. wrote:
>
>>>> Then get your advice from someone who actually knows something.
>>>> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
>>>> --
>>>> the volleyballchick
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Mistress Krista" ? No thanks. :-)
>>>

>> Seriously, she knows her stuff. It's a really good way to get some good
>> information. Unlike the troll that has hit this group lately pretending
>> he
>> knows anything.
>> --
>> the volleyballchick

>
> LOL
>
> I assume you mean Mu. Tell you what, whoever you are, if you would like
> to debate Mu on anything regarding body motion, I am here to anytime you
> would like.
>
> I would give you a warning of caution, best Google Mu before you get
> Mu-ed.


I don't need to google your foolishness to know what you are - just another
pathetic usenet troll. Not interested in your brand of psychotic
stalkerhood, but thanks for offering.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:00 AM
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"Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Few keep up with the routines you posted over any period of time and,
> most probably, your time will end as well. Injury, job change, whatever.
> Enjoy what you are doing but always keep a keen eye on reality. Reality
> = as you get older, mobility and cardiovacular heealth will become
> predominant. As this happens, think squats over leg machines, deadlifts
> and any other full body movements over limited single-joint based ones
> (like curls).
>
> Good luck.
>


Thanks. You've offered sound advice IMO. I am wondering if you are
posting from China.
If so, I think I discovered who you are. :-)

RCE



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Old 01-26-2007, 09:25 PM
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:45:25 -0600, Nunya B. wrote:

>>> Seriously, she knows her stuff. It's a really good way to get some good
>>> information. Unlike the troll that has hit this group lately pretending
>>> he
>>> knows anything.
>>> --
>>> the volleyballchick

>>
>> LOL
>>
>> I assume you mean Mu. Tell you what, whoever you are, if you would like
>> to debate Mu on anything regarding body motion, I am here to anytime you
>> would like.
>>
>> I would give you a warning of caution, best Google Mu before you get
>> Mu-ed.

>
> I don't need to google your foolishness to know what you are - just another
> pathetic usenet troll. Not interested in your brand of psychotic
> stalkerhood, but thanks for offering.
> --
> the volleyballchick


You elected to pass on testing me. This indicates you have a tablespoon
of intelligence.

Good choice, btw. lol

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Old 01-26-2007, 11:27 PM
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:23:58 -0500, RCE wrote:

> "Mu" <nocowinthismu@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Few keep up with the routines you posted over any period of time and,
>> most probably, your time will end as well. Injury, job change, whatever.
>> Enjoy what you are doing but always keep a keen eye on reality. Reality
>> = as you get older, mobility and cardiovacular heealth will become
>> predominant. As this happens, think squats over leg machines, deadlifts
>> and any other full body movements over limited single-joint based ones
>> (like curls).
>>
>> Good luck.
>>

>
> Thanks. You've offered sound advice IMO. I am wondering if you are
> posting from China.
> If so, I think I discovered who you are. :-)
>
> RCE


Been a lot of places but never China, nope, posting from the Good Ole
USA and common to popular belief, I am not Dr. Andrew Chung.

Or Mao Tse Tung's long lost brother.

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Old 01-28-2007, 07:07 PM
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"RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote
> We went down to my exercise room and I was showing him the routine I use
> and, as I took off my shirt to use the weights he almost fell over in
> shock. Cracked me up. Now, "I" am the jock and he's motivated to catch
> up.


I hope you said "nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah" .....

I took my coat off at work the other day, and did not have my big chef
jacket on, my coworker did a double take and said "Where's the rest of you?"


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