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Old 12-07-2006, 10:01 PM
Ilena Rose
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Very true. Thanks Peter B.

http://www.BreastimplantAwareness.or...WatchWatch.htm
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:01 PM
Ilena Rose
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The last time this was posted the author was asked to provide an
example
by which this "shotgun" approach could be illustrated, it is of yet
not
forthcoming.


Response from Ilena Rosenthal:

You can start by checking out the despicable attacks launched by
Barrett's NCAHF (he's the founder) against 2500 fine scientists and
doctors published on his Quack List.

www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/

http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/quack.html

NCAHF Posts Names of 2,500 Physicians on Quack List
Originally published July 1997
Lyn Behrens, PhD
President, Loma Linda University
Loma Linda, California 92350

Dear President Behrens:

This letter responds to yours of April 22 in which you responded to a
written complaint I submitted concerning facts and circumstances
surrounding acts of suppression of speech at a public forum held at
Loma Linda University. As you know, the forum was under the control of
Loma Linda University professor William Jarvis, PhD. The lecture
entitled 'Cancer Quackery: What You Should Know!' was open to the
public and held at the University's Wong Kerlee Conference Center in
the Cancer Research Pavilion. Fliers announcing the event invited
members of the public to attend without charge. Microphones were
available for members of the public who wished to express a view or
ask a question.

When I and three others who shared a similar viewpoint rose to correct
inaccuracies and defamatory remarks made by Dr. Jarvis against Dr.
Stanislaw Burzynski, Dr. Jarvis refused to permit us to express these
views and ordered University security police to escort three of us
from the lecture hall.

Your letter explains that the matter is under investigation. In that
regard, I wish to supplement the record with additional information.
As I pointed out in my original complaint Dr. William Jarvis is the
President of an entity known as the National Council Against Health
Fraud (NCAHF). The University's address property, and stationery have
been by Dr. Jarvis in the performance of hi duties for NCAHF. Records
of the NCAHF are housed at his university office. Dr. Jarvis holds
NCAHF events at the University. He makes frequent reference to his
University affiliation while performing duties for his NCAHF.

Dr. Jarvis' NCAHF is a controversial organization whose members
crusade across the nation against specific, named practitioners whom
they condemn as 'quacks' or 'frauds' in public forum, in print, on the
air, and in judicial and administrative proceedings. Indeed, Dr.
Jarvis used the facilities of Loma Linda University and its lecture
hall to do precisely that at the recent Loma Linda event. He defamed
Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski by implying that he was a quack and a fraud.

Loma Linda should be deeply concerned that one of its professors has
elected to use its property, its name, and his University affiliation
to propagate rank character assassination and defamation against
health care practitioners.

Unfortunately, the NCAHF's anti quackery crusade is subjective and
results in defamation only. Dr. Jarvis and other NCAHF members usually
attack the character of their opponents, rather than the merits of
their views. Characteristically, as was Dr. Jarvis' attack on Dr.
Burzynski, NCAHF members harbor ignorance of key facts and frequently
lack a professional understanding of the science of the matter.

At the Loma Linda event, Dr. Jarvis identified Dr. Burzynski as a
typical example of a medical quack and fraud, but failed to mention
that after a two month trial Dr. Burzynski was acquitted of all fraud
charges, and not a single witness brought forth by the government to
testify against Dr. Burzynski questioned Dr. Burzynski's motives,
character or integrity. He also failed to mention that for almost six
months Dr. Burzynski's antineoplaston therapy has been undergoing
study in several dozen FDA-approved clinical trials, with Dr.
Burzynski as the principal investigator.

Dr. Jarvis chose to attack the honesty, character, integrity, and
personal characteristics of Dr. Burzynski. Such rank character
assassination is not only unbecoming of a professional but also
antithetical to educational dialogue at a University. Dr. Jarvis has
brought disrepute upon Loma Linda. His crusade seeks not only to
stifle opposing views but also to label those who express them as
frauds or quacks - the very antithesis of higher education. His
efforts convey the impression that Loma Linda University is not a
place where academic exchange of ideas and information is encouraged
but one where obvious overt bias and intolerance for dissenting views
predominate.

Unfortunately, the recent incident involving defamation against Dr.
Burzynski is not an isolated event. I offer four items for your
investigation that characterize the intent, actions, and consequences
of the NCAHF.
Item 1 - Deposition of Stephen Barrett, MD
The NCAHF recently attacked Dr. Shari Lieberman, RD, PhD, a
nutritionist and exercise physiologist in New York. Two of Dr. Jarvis'
fellow NCAHF board members defamed Dr. Lieberman, again without the
benefit of sound science or material facts.

Those NCAHF board members, Dr. Stephen Barrett and Ira Milner, RD,
testified against Dr. Lieberman at a hearing they themselves
instigated before the American Dietetic Association (ADA) which
resulted in the ADA publicly stripping Dr. Lieberman of her registered
dietitian (RD) credential. As you would imagine, this caused her loss
of prestige and credibility, hurt her financially, and caused her
public humiliation. In their testimony to the ADA, the two represented
themselves to be knowledgeable about several specific aspects of
nutrition science, yet neither had academic training nor publication
in those specific areas.

In the end, after the falsity of their charges came to light, the ADA
reinstated Dr. Leiberman's RD credential and published a statement
noting same in the ADA's Journal and Courier.
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:01 AM
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"The last time this was posted the author was asked to provide an
example by which this "shotgun" approach could be illustrated, it is of
yet not forthcoming."

To which in response:

"You can start by checking out the despicable attacks launched by
Barrett's NCAHF (he's the founder) against 2500 fine scientists and
doctors published on his Quack List."

I'm sorry, the claim of the original poster is that people are posting
critical things against the "alternative" industry in the pay or on
behalf of other industries. He was asked to provide one example of such
a newsgroup posting. He has not.

The web site to which you refer is not a newsgroup and the principle
author of it not a poster so this is not the sought one example by which
a discussion could be started.

What he really means is that he doesn't like people posting critical
science based responses to claims of the supporters of the "alternative"
industry and uses these empty "warnings" as a vain attempt to ward off
the critical eye being cast upon it.
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