What is the mass of fat?

Is that the right question?

My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that I
have to lose.

Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some muscle
too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I come up
with.

Thanks!

"em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>
> Is that the right question?

You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
immersion.
Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
to calculate it.

> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that I
> have to lose.
>
> Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some muscle
> too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I come up
> with.

"Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>>
>> Is that the right question?
>
> You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
> rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
> immersion.
> Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
> to calculate it.
>
>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that
>> I
>> have to lose.

Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.

On Aug 16, 2:06 pm, "determined" <determi...@comcast.nest> wrote:
> "Doug Freyburger" <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187295404.945045.269160@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>
> >> Is that the right question?
>
> > You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
> > rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
> > immersion.
> > Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
> > to calculate it.
>
> >> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
> >> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that
> >> I
> >> have to lose.
>
> Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.

Probably a caliper test would give you roughly what you want then.
Normally total body fat is determined using the belly and several
other places, but you can probably find some single caliper
measurement indicators. The general one of course is that you are
overweight if you can "pinch an inch". Now, you cannot lose fat just
in your belly, so the question is academic though. Situps or similar
exercises also strenghten the stomach muscles. This doesn't "spot
reduce", but it does improve the appearance and give better muscle
tone. In lieu of caliper measurements you could just use total waist
measurement too. That's an easier number to compare since many weight
standards including the one used by the US Navy use this one. Someone
your height for example should have a waist circumference no larger
than some number. You get this number from a chart. My guess is that
you can also tell by looking in the mirror. dkw

"determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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> "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1187295404.945045.269160@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
>> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is that the right question?
>>
>> You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
>> rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
>> immersion.
>> Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
>> to calculate it.
>>
>>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure
>>> my
>>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there
>>> that I
>>> have to lose.
>
> Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.
>
actually it is 0.8 pounds of fat and 0.2 pounds of water.

"Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>> "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1187295404.945045.269160@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
>>> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is that the right question?
>>>
>>> You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
>>> rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
>>> immersion.
>>> Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
>>> to calculate it.
>>>
>>>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure
>>>> my
>>>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there
>>>> that I
>>>> have to lose.
>>
>> Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.
>>
> actually it is 0.8 pounds of fat and 0.2 pounds of water.

What's your friggin' point? A lb of butter is a pretty decent
representation of what a lb of bodyfat looks like. I'm guessing that
bodyfat has even more water by volume, but is it really necessary to have an
EXACT representation?

"determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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> "Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1187295404.945045.269160@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the right question?
>>>>
>>>> You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
>>>> rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
>>>> immersion.
>>>> Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
>>>> to calculate it.
>>>>
>>>>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and
>>>>> measure my
>>>>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there
>>>>> that I
>>>>> have to lose.
>>>
>>> Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.
>>>
>> actually it is 0.8 pounds of fat and 0.2 pounds of water.
>
> What's your friggin' point? A lb of butter is a pretty decent
> representation of what a lb of bodyfat looks like. I'm guessing that
> bodyfat has even more water by volume, but is it really necessary to
> have an EXACT representation?
What was your point invoking butter to compare to body fat? Butter is
not pure fat. Why didn't you say a pound of crisco? or a pint of olive
oil?

No big deal, just picking a nit, being pedantic, pulling your chain.
>

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> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>> "Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1187295404.945045.269160@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that the right question?
>>>>>
>>>>> You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
>>>>> rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
>>>>> immersion.
>>>>> Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
>>>>> to calculate it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> have to lose.
>>>>
>>>> Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.
>>>>
>>> actually it is 0.8 pounds of fat and 0.2 pounds of water.
>>
>> What's your friggin' point? A lb of butter is a pretty decent
>> representation of what a lb of bodyfat looks like. I'm guessing that
>> bodyfat has even more water by volume, but is it really necessary to have
>> an EXACT representation?
> What was your point invoking butter to compare to body fat? Butter is not
> pure fat. Why didn't you say a pound of crisco? or a pint of olive oil?

There we go! I've got about a gallon of olive oil floating around in there.

Harrumph. That doesn't sound very useful. I've got much more then 8 pounds
to go. Maybe its more like a three-gallon gut.

Ugh. Yuck. I was laying on the bed last night bouncing my stomach around.
Disgusting. Three gallons of.... lard. Can't wait to get rid of this shit.

"em" <i@dun.no> wrote in message news:B21xi.94452$6K3.75704@newsfe10.phx...
> Is that the right question?
>
> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that I
> have to lose.
>
> Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some
> muscle too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I
> come up with.
>
> Thanks!
>

The "mass of fat" is a splinter cult ritual that broke off from the church
of Satan about 5 years ago. They no longer sacrifice virgins. Capturing
the most obese is key to filling the alter, and keeping the pentagram fires
lit with a fresh supply of human tallow.

On Aug 18, 4:41 pm, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote in messagenews:B21xi.94452$6K3.75704@newsfe10.phx...
> > Is that the right question?
>
> > My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
> > stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that I
> > have to lose.
>
> > Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some
> > muscle too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I
> > come up with.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> The "mass of fat" is a splinter cult ritual that broke off from the church
> of Satan about 5 years ago. They no longer sacrifice virgins. Capturing
> the most obese is key to filling the alter, and keeping the pentagram fires
> lit with a fresh supply of human tallow.

Actually, you don't have to even form a splinter group. If you believe
in the Holy Sacrament as practiced by the church and
Transubstantiation, you are already eating the blood and body of
Christ. The debate is still on whether he was obese or not, but there
is some reference to him being gluttonous in the Bible. dkw

"Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>> "Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5ik5sjF3qe2elU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1187295404.945045.269160@l22g2000prc.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that the right question?
>>>>>
>>>>> You probably want body fat percentage, though that's the whole body
>>>>> rather than belly in particular. The gold standard is water
>>>>> immersion.
>>>>> Protein Power by Drs Eades has a chapter about taking measurements
>>>>> to calculate it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> have to lose.
>>>>
>>>> Look at a pound of butter. It is a pound of fat.
>>>>
>>> actually it is 0.8 pounds of fat and 0.2 pounds of water.
>>
>> What's your friggin' point? A lb of butter is a pretty decent
>> representation of what a lb of bodyfat looks like. I'm guessing that
>> bodyfat has even more water by volume, but is it really necessary to have
>> an EXACT representation?
> What was your point invoking butter to compare to body fat? Butter is not
> pure fat. Why didn't you say a pound of crisco? or a pint of olive oil?
>
> No big deal, just picking a nit, being pedantic, pulling your chain.

geesh, I'll leave the highly technical stuff to you...

We've seen pictures of Jesus in various races, but I have never seen a fat
Jesus painting or sculpture. This sounds like an idea for a Monty Python
skit of the last supper.


<dkw12002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 18, 4:41 pm, "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote:
>> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote in
>> messagenews:B21xi.94452$6K3.75704@newsfe10.phx...
>> > Is that the right question?
>>
>> > My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure
>> > my
>> > stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there
>> > that I
>> > have to lose.
>>
>> > Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some
>> > muscle too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I
>> > come up with.
>>
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> The "mass of fat" is a splinter cult ritual that broke off from the
>> church
>> of Satan about 5 years ago. They no longer sacrifice virgins. Capturing
>> the most obese is key to filling the alter, and keeping the pentagram
>> fires
>> lit with a fresh supply of human tallow.
>
> Actually, you don't have to even form a splinter group. If you believe
> in the Holy Sacrament as practiced by the church and
> Transubstantiation, you are already eating the blood and body of
> Christ. The debate is still on whether he was obese or not, but there
> is some reference to him being gluttonous in the Bible. dkw
>

"em" <i@dun.no> wrote in message news:B21xi.94452$6K3.75704@newsfe10.phx...
> Is that the right question?
>
> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that I
> have to lose.
>
> Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some
> muscle too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I
> come up with.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Finally went to see the doc today. He says its probably related to my old
hernias, but is sending me to ultrasound & a specialist anyway. Says it
doesn't look or feel at all like "c", but that I have to do the testing
anyway.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:18:26 -0700, em wrote:

> "em" <i@dun.no> wrote in message news:B21xi.94452$6K3.75704@newsfe10.phx...
>> Is that the right question?
>>
>> My stomach is where I carry most of my fat. I want to try and measure my
>> stomach as it is and calculate the number of pounds of fat in there that I
>> have to lose.
>>
>> Surely, I'll lose some fat from other places along the way, and some
>> muscle too. So I'll throw in a fudge factor of some sort and see what I
>> come up with.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>
> Finally went to see the doc today. He says its probably related to my old
> hernias, but is sending me to ultrasound & a specialist anyway. Says it
> doesn't look or feel at all like "c", but that I have to do the testing
> anyway.


You'll feel better once it is checked out and you know what's what.
Not knowing just leads to stress and possibly unneccessary concern.

Good luck!

--
Cynthia
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