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02-27-2007, 08:26 AM
| | | What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
method? What are you doing?"
What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
I'd say:
1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
bad week, then get back on that horse again!
5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
by the latest fad diet, etc.
Any other general ideas, approaches?
Thanks so much for considering this questions.
Yours truly,
Caleb | 
02-27-2007, 08:26 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time?
"Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
> Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> method? What are you doing?"
>
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> I'd say:
> 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> Thanks so much for considering this questions.
I've been asked the question quite often, but nobody really believes my
answers-- they think I am keeping secrets. <chuckle> I tell them that I:
**Eat healthy foods the vast majority of the time, in healthy quantities.
Although an occasional small treat is not off limits.
**Exercise daily--even if it is only a small amount, I still do something,
even on my not-so-energetic days
**Keep track of my eating and exercise, so I can't "fudge" I use Fitday.
**Keep track not only of weight, but also of inches, and of how my clothes
are fitting.
**Find time to relax and enjoy my life. It takes determination and
perseverance to reach a healthy weight, but it takes relaxation and fun to
remain human in the process. We are not robots! | 
02-27-2007, 04:26 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time?
"Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
> Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> method? What are you doing?"
>
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
Almost without exception any of my friends that have put on some extra
pounds over the years tell me they need to start working out when they see
the "new" me for the first time. If they ask me what I've been doing and I
try to explain the relative value of exercise versus calorie limiting in
terms of losing the fat ... most don't believe it .... or want to believe
it. They seem to think a few weeks in the gym will rid them of the extra
pounds, be it 15 or 50.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I've actually put *on* a pound or two in the
past week according to the scale. I got as low as 199.6 lbs for a couple of
days, but it has gone up in the past 4 days.
This does not concern me as it has happened several times over the past 4
months and the overall trend is still downward, although much more slowly
than a couple of months ago. Most importantly, the Tanita scale I use
indicates that my body fat index continues to slowly drop. At 260 lbs my
body fat was 38-40. Right now it consistently reads between 26 and 28. I
attribute the fact that it continues to slowly drop yet the overall weight
remains almost constant to the fairly aggressive weight lifting I am doing
in addition to the elliptical and treadmill workouts and because I have been
slowly upping the daily calorie intake as I approach my final weight goal.
My wife wants me to stop where I am. She's afraid if I lose much more I'll
look "sickly". My facial features have changed and I think she is just too
used to seeing how I looked over the past 30 years or so.
It's really interesting logging all the data and watching the results.
RCE
260/201/190 | 
02-27-2007, 04:26 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 26, 10:22 pm, "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote:
> Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> method? What are you doing?"
>
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> I'd say:
> 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Caleb
1) Learn about the calories in food so you know almost exactly how
many are in the food you eat, along with 2) Know how many calories you
should have to reach your goal and 3) Count your calories and STOP
when you reach your quota. dkw | 
02-27-2007, 04:26 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? In article <1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups. com>,
"Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote:
> Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> method? What are you doing?"
>
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> I'd say:
> 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Caleb
1. Write everything down: What you eat and how you feel
2. Eat less
3. Exercise more
4. Repeat, forever
5. Remember--you get out of your body what you put into it.
Amy
168/117/115...
Practicing for the shuttle run competition on March 10. See: http://www.tcfitnesschallenge.com
Count so far: 1 Silver Medal (bench press), 1 Hon. Mention (broad jump) | 
02-27-2007, 04:26 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? "Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> I'd say:
> 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
Caleb, I like your list. However, "for me personally", I cannot weigh every
day. Once a week lets me see some results because with water and waste
weight fluctuating daily it's hard not to get discouraged at the ups and
downs.
Take care.
Joe 357/333/220 | 
02-27-2007, 04:26 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice (Amy) On Feb 27, 8:54 am, A Ross <aroneei...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> In article <1172550157.944144.40...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups. com>,
>
> 1. Write everything down: What you eat and how you feel
> 2. Eat less
> 3. Exercise more
> 4. Repeat, forever
> 5. Remember--you get out of your body what you put into it.
>
> Amy
> 168/117/115...
> Practicing for the shuttle run competition on March 10. See:http://www.tcfitnesschallenge.com
> Count so far: 1 Silver Medal (bench press), 1 Hon. Mention (broad jump)-
What is a shuttle run? I see it's in Owego, NY. Isn't this the place
that had all the snow? Can they find the town now
Beverly | 
02-27-2007, 04:26 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 27, 5:50 am, "Joe" <mcgam...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> > I'd say:
> > 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
>
> Caleb, I like your list. However, "for me personally", I cannot weigh every
> day. Once a week lets me see some results because with water and waste
> weight fluctuating daily it's hard not to get discouraged at the ups and
> downs.
>
> Take care.
>
> Joe 357/333/220
Joe --
I agree with the demotivating of most methods of daily weighing.
I weight on a balance beam scale daily but do not move the indicator
unless it goes down. I know that if I am on a good calorie-restricted
way of eating, the weight will have to come off. So I don't move the
indicator to the right to see how much water/fiber/short-term weight I
put on temporarily that night. For me seeing on a daily basis how much
temporary water gain I put on is as disrupting as looking at the clock
in the middle of the night to see what time it is and to see how many
more hours of sleep I have ahead of me. (Whenever I do that, I toss
and turn and worry about not being able to sleep.)
You may want to try the balance beam approach I use -- that is, if you
have a such a scale at home. Or, if you go to a club, just set the
indicator at the last weight you had and get on the scale, and if the
indicator goes lower, then move it to the left and set that as your
new low weight. But if the indicator goes higher, don't move the
indicator higher but keep the weight you are at as your ongoing low.
By following this method I preserve the motivating aspects of frequent
weighing while eliminating much of the demotivating/frustrating/
disheartening results that come with temporary water gain.
Just a thought, but this has been extremely useful for me in
preserving my motivation and task focus.
Keep up the great work, Joe! Whatever you're doing is working
terrifically!
Yours,
Caleb | 
02-27-2007, 10:21 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? "Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:1172590124.857878.239440@t69g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com...
> I agree with the demotivating of most methods of daily weighing.
>
> I weight on a balance beam scale daily but do not move the indicator
> unless it goes down. I know that if I am on a good calorie-restricted
That's actually not a bad idea. I'm going to try that. :O) Thanks.
Joe 357/333/220 | 
02-27-2007, 10:21 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? One very important tip that I use.
Have a 'I don't care' day every 2 weeks, which means 1 day off and 13
days on.
Very useful for social activities.
Of course, it means also a lesser rate of weight loss if it is the
goal. I was still losing 1-1.5lbs/week.
I think that the trade-off is excellent. This is an option for
anyone, despite what naysayers will tell WIHTOUT having experimented
it.
On Feb 26, 11:22 pm, "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote:
> Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> method? What are you doing?"
>
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> I'd say:
> 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Caleb | 
02-27-2007, 10:21 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:46:43 GMT, "Joe" <mcgammon@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote in message
>news:1172590124.857878.239440@t69g2000cwt.googleg roups.com...
>> I agree with the demotivating of most methods of daily weighing.
>>
>> I weight on a balance beam scale daily but do not move the indicator
>> unless it goes down. I know that if I am on a good calorie-restricted
>
>That's actually not a bad idea. I'm going to try that. :O) Thanks.
>
>Joe 357/333/220
>
When I was in losing mode, I'd do something a bit similar. I'd weigh
myself pretty much every day (whenever I was at the gym, as they have
better scales there), but would record my weight weekly, and would use
the lowest weight that I'd seen during the week. That would ensure I
noticed any actual gains, but would dispense with noise-level
fluctuations.
Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 | 
02-28-2007, 02:14 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 27, 2:03 pm, Chris Braun <b...@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:46:43 GMT, "Joe" <mcgam...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >"Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote in message
> >news:1172590124.857878.239440@t69g2000cwt.googleg roups.com...
> >> I agree with the demotivating of most methods of daily weighing.
>
> >> I weight on a balance beam scale daily but do not move the indicator
> >> unless it goes down. I know that if I am on a good calorie-restricted
>
> >That's actually not a bad idea. I'm going to try that. :O) Thanks.
>
> >Joe 357/333/220
>
> When I was in losing mode, I'd do something a bit similar. I'd weigh
> myself pretty much every day (whenever I was at the gym, as they have
> better scales there), but would record my weight weekly, and would use
> the lowest weight that I'd seen during the week. That would ensure I
> noticed any actual gains, but would dispense with noise-level
> fluctuations.
>
> Chris
> 262/130s/130s
> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Chris --
I've never heard of anyone else doing that. It sure as heck makes
sense to me. Your system would even work on the other kinds of scales,
if the noise-level fluctuations don't bother you much. Easy way to
watch the weight go down.
Pretty good alternative to what I'm doing with by balance scale.
Yours,
Caleb | 
02-28-2007, 02:14 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 27, 9:26 am, "saint...@hotmail.com" <saint...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> One very important tip that I use.
>
> Have a 'I don't care' day every 2 weeks, which means 1 day off and 13
> days on.
>
> Very useful for social activities.
>
> Of course, it means also a lesser rate of weight loss if it is the
> goal. I was still losing 1-1.5lbs/week.
>
> I think that the trade-off is excellent. This is an option for
> anyone, despite what naysayers will tell WIHTOUT having experimented
> it.
>
> On Feb 26, 11:22 pm, "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> > you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> > and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> > method? What are you doing?"
>
> > What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> > I'd say:
> > 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> > 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> > weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> > 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> > 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> > bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> > 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> > by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> > Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> > Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> > Yours truly,
>
> > Caleb
Saintor1 --
Kind of reminds me of wily Odysseus with the Sirens. This is from
Wikipedia: "Ulysses wanted to hear the Sirens' song although he knew
that doing so would render him incapable of rational thought. He put
wax in his men's ears so that they could not hear, and had them tie
him to the mast so that he could not jump into the sea. He ordered
them not to change course under any circumstances, and to keep their
swords upon him to attack him if he should break free of his bonds."
You are binding yourself to the regimen of losing weight (and are
doing so very well with your weight-loss performance), but you still
get to sample some freedom and good food, and are probably also
learning to handle yourself in food-rich environments. Sounds terrific
to me!
I guess one concern I have about certain dieting approaches is that
they assume that one "will sin no more," by whatever measure of
sinning the particular advocate is promoting. Heck, as long as you are
healthier and are reaching your health and other goals -- and
hopefully can maintain them -- that's terrific!
Have you figured out what you tend to eat on your free days? or do you
just let them happen?
It struck me again this morning that going for the same number of
calories each day is somewhat complicated by real life events, like
having friends over on Saturday (which happened to us), going out to
dinner with my wife's mother (which we did on Sunday), etc. On Monday
through Thursday, I can be pretty doggoned abstemious (full of self-
control), but the weekends are a bit more difficult. For me (and I
think for many other people) life is like that, with vacillations in
calories.
I guess this is also like the story of the man in the Great Depression
who had no other way to make money, and so he took to selling apples.
On his first day doing this he was asked by a train passenger, "How
much for the apples?" and the guy said, "Well, the average price is
five dollars." The passenger mumbled to himself, withdrew a five
dollar bill and gave it to the guy, and then the passenger started
walking away. The man then said to the passenger, "Well, sir, I have
to tell you that this is the only apple I've sold in which the price
has come up to the average!"
I think your system sounds great!
Yours,
Caleb | 
02-28-2007, 02:14 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 26, 8:48 pm, "teachrmama" <teachrm...@iwon.com> wrote:
> "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> > you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> > and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> > method? What are you doing?"
>
> > What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> > I'd say:
> > 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> > 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> > weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> > 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> > 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> > bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> > 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> > by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> > Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> > Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> I've been asked the question quite often, but nobody really believes my
> answers-- they think I am keeping secrets. <chuckle> I tell them that I:
>
> **Eat healthy foods the vast majority of the time, in healthy quantities.
> Although an occasional small treat is not off limits.
>
> **Exercise daily--even if it is only a small amount, I still do something,
> even on my not-so-energetic days
>
> **Keep track of my eating and exercise, so I can't "fudge" I use Fitday.
>
> **Keep track not only of weight, but also of inches, and of how my clothes
> are fitting.
>
> **Find time to relax and enjoy my life. It takes determination and
> perseverance to reach a healthy weight, but it takes relaxation and fun to
> remain human in the process. We are not robots!
Loud voice roaring: "Not robots? How dare you not scurry in fear! Do
the Homeland Security people know you're not continually afraid?"
Super!!! Your methods seem to be great! And they sure have worked for
you!
Doing good most of the time, keeping track, and taking it easy.
Yours truly,
Caleb ( From Wikipedia: "The phrase "Klaatu barada nikto" originates
from the 1951 Cold-War-era science fiction film The Day The Earth
Stood Still. The phrase "Gort! Klaatu barada nikto!" was used to stop
Gort, the robot in the film, from destroying the world." Great movie!
I think I first saw it when I was about 6 or so. I still think of the
phrase just in case I happen to meet a potentially rampaging robot.) | 
02-28-2007, 02:14 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 27, 3:37 am, "RCE" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172550157.944144.40020@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> > you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> > and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> > method? What are you doing?"
>
> > What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> Almost without exception any of my friends that have put on some extra
> pounds over the years tell me they need to start working out when they see
> the "new" me for the first time. If they ask me what I've been doing and I
> try to explain the relative value of exercise versus calorie limiting in
> terms of losing the fat ... most don't believe it .... or want to believe
> it. They seem to think a few weeks in the gym will rid them of the extra
> pounds, be it 15 or 50.
>
> Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I've actually put *on* a pound or two in the
> past week according to the scale. I got as low as 199.6 lbs for a couple of
> days, but it has gone up in the past 4 days.
> This does not concern me as it has happened several times over the past 4
> months and the overall trend is still downward, although much more slowly
> than a couple of months ago. Most importantly, the Tanita scale I use
> indicates that my body fat index continues to slowly drop. At 260 lbs my
> body fat was 38-40. Right now it consistently reads between 26 and 28. I
> attribute the fact that it continues to slowly drop yet the overall weight
> remains almost constant to the fairly aggressive weight lifting I am doing
> in addition to the elliptical and treadmill workouts and because I have been
> slowly upping the daily calorie intake as I approach my final weight goal.
>
> My wife wants me to stop where I am. She's afraid if I lose much more I'll
> look "sickly". My facial features have changed and I think she is just too
> used to seeing how I looked over the past 30 years or so.
>
> It's really interesting logging all the data and watching the results.
>
> RCE
> 260/201/190
RCE -- Jeez! Very, very impressive results you are continuing to show!
So for you, a very, very important aspect is exercise, including
cardio and weight-lifting.
My wife has put up with me for 30 years or so too -- poor, poor
better half!
Yours,
Caleb | 
02-28-2007, 02:14 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 27, 4:51 am, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:22 pm, "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> > you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> > and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> > method? What are you doing?"
>
> > What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> > I'd say:
> > 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> > 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> > weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> > 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> > 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> > bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> > 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> > by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> > Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> > Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> > Yours truly,
>
> > Caleb
>
> 1) Learn about the calories in food so you know almost exactly how
> many are in the food you eat, along with 2) Know how many calories you
> should have to reach your goal and 3) Count your calories and STOP
> when you reach your quota. dkw
DKW -- as simple and as difficult as that. Kind of reminds me of the
story about Wordsworth and his friend, Charles Lamb, and Wordsworth
(the poet) says, "You know, I could write like Shakespeare if I'd a
mind to," and Lamb says, "Yes -- All that's missing is the mind!"
I have been missing too long that "mind" that says, "Whoa! That's
enough feed going down your gullet! And put down that flagon while
you're about it!"
GREAT FOR YOU!
Yours,
Caleb | 
02-28-2007, 02:14 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 27, 5:54 am, A Ross <aroneei...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> In article <1172550157.944144.40...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups. com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote:
> > Let's say you bump into someone in a shopping mall, and they have seen
> > you for a while, and they notice you have lost a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
> > and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> > method? What are you doing?"
>
> > What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
>
> > I'd say:
> > 1. Weigh fairly often. (I weigh daily.)
> > 2.Know the calories in what you eat and go for a level you will lose
> > weight with. (It might be easier to limit variety of foods.)
> > 3. Work exercise into your weekly/daily activity.
> > 4. Don't give up -- maintain your focus. If you have a bad night, or a
> > bad week, then get back on that horse again!
> > 5. Don't get distracted from what works for YOU! Don't be distracted
> > by the latest fad diet, etc.
>
> > Any other general ideas, approaches?
>
> > Thanks so much for considering this questions.
>
> > Yours truly,
>
> > Caleb
>
> 1. Write everything down: What you eat and how you feel
> 2. Eat less
> 3. Exercise more
> 4. Repeat, forever
> 5. Remember--you get out of your body what you put into it.
>
> Amy
> 168/117/115...
> Practicing for the shuttle run competition on March 10. See:http://www.tcfitnesschallenge.com
> Count so far: 1 Silver Medal (bench press), 1 Hon. Mention (broad jump)
Amy -- your numbers are great! Your focus seems total! Your methods
are effective! You are awesome and unstoppable!
You're definitely a new and improved and healthier you!
Supah!!!
Yours,
Caleb | 
02-28-2007, 07:38 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice (Amy) In article <1172586768.482182.229390@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups .com>,
"Beverly" <Beverly.Owens@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 8:54 am, A Ross <aroneei...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> > In article <1172550157.944144.40...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups. com>,
>
> >
> > 1. Write everything down: What you eat and how you feel
> > 2. Eat less
> > 3. Exercise more
> > 4. Repeat, forever
> > 5. Remember--you get out of your body what you put into it.
> >
> > Amy
> > 168/117/115...
> > Practicing for the shuttle run competition on March 10.
> > See:http://www.tcfitnesschallenge.com
> > Count so far: 1 Silver Medal (bench press), 1 Hon. Mention (broad jump)-
>
> What is a shuttle run? I see it's in Owego, NY. Isn't this the place
> that had all the snow? Can they find the town now 
>
> Beverly
Shuttle run is running back and forth as fast as one can. We will run 20
feet, retrieve a block, run back to start, drop the block into a
container, and repeat two more times. Fast as you can, mind you. My
first practice time was 17 seconds--but that was running 30 feet each
time instead of 20, as the coach was misinformed about the course
distance.
Owego is about 3.5-4 hours away from Oswego where all the snow (80+
inches) fell. Owego did have it's share of Mother Nature's bounty last
summer, when the mighty Susquehanna flooded her banks and covered most
of the village. Folks are still trying to recover from that, so they
were pretty relieved at the relatively mild winter we've had in the
Southern Tier.
Amy
168/117/115... | 
02-28-2007, 07:38 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? In article <1172619617.640077.287310@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups .com>,
"Caleb" <calebb@teleport.com> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2:03 pm, Chris Braun <b...@mill-creek-systems.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:46:43 GMT, "Joe" <mcgam...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >"Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1172590124.857878.239440@t69g2000cwt.googleg roups.com...
> > >> I agree with the demotivating of most methods of daily weighing.
> >
> > >> I weight on a balance beam scale daily but do not move the indicator
> > >> unless it goes down. I know that if I am on a good calorie-restricted
> >
> > >That's actually not a bad idea. I'm going to try that. :O) Thanks.
> >
> > >Joe 357/333/220
> >
> > When I was in losing mode, I'd do something a bit similar. I'd weigh
> > myself pretty much every day (whenever I was at the gym, as they have
> > better scales there), but would record my weight weekly, and would use
> > the lowest weight that I'd seen during the week. That would ensure I
> > noticed any actual gains, but would dispense with noise-level
> > fluctuations.
> >
> > Chris
> > 262/130s/130s
> > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
>
>
> Chris --
>
> I've never heard of anyone else doing that. It sure as heck makes
> sense to me. Your system would even work on the other kinds of scales,
> if the noise-level fluctuations don't bother you much. Easy way to
> watch the weight go down.
>
> Pretty good alternative to what I'm doing with by balance scale.
>
> Yours,
>
> Caleb
Actually, I think many of us use that method. If I recorded my daily
flux I couldn't keep up! Weighing daily, but only recording my Monday
number--whether it's good news or bad--is enough for me.
Amy | 
02-28-2007, 07:38 PM
| | | Re: What's the best advice (Amy) On Feb 28, 5:54 am, A Ross <aroneei...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> In article <1172586768.482182.229...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups .com>,
>
>
>
> "Beverly" <Beverly.Ow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 27, 8:54 am, A Ross <aroneei...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> > > In article <1172550157.944144.40...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups. com>,
>
> > > 1. Write everything down: What you eat and how you feel
> > > 2. Eat less
> > > 3. Exercise more
> > > 4. Repeat, forever
> > > 5. Remember--you get out of your body what you put into it.
>
> > > Amy
> > > 168/117/115...
> > > Practicing for the shuttle run competition on March 10.
> > > See:http://www.tcfitnesschallenge.com
> > > Count so far: 1 Silver Medal (bench press), 1 Hon. Mention (broad jump)-
>
> > What is a shuttle run? I see it's in Owego, NY. Isn't this the place
> > that had all the snow? Can they find the town now 
>
> > Beverly
>
> Shuttle run is running back and forth as fast as one can. We will run 20
> feet, retrieve a block, run back to start, drop the block into a
> container, and repeat two more times. Fast as you can, mind you. My
> first practice time was 17 seconds--but that was running 30 feet each
> time instead of 20, as the coach was misinformed about the course
> distance.
>
> Owego is about 3.5-4 hours away from Oswego where all the snow (80+
> inches) fell. Owego did have it's share of Mother Nature's bounty last
> summer, when the mighty Susquehanna flooded her banks and covered most
> of the village. Folks are still trying to recover from that, so they
> were pretty relieved at the relatively mild winter we've had in the
> Southern Tier.
>
> Amy
> 168/117/115...
Amy -- Excellent! I remember shuttle runs in middle school and I hated
them. Maybe because I was very overweight.
GREAT FOR YOU!!!!! I'm hoping your team wins!
Yours truly,
Caleb | 
03-04-2007, 06:45 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time?
"RCE" <rce@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:56idnRJRjKyahXnYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> My wife wants me to stop where I am. She's afraid if I lose much more
> I'll look "sickly". My facial features have changed and I think she is
> just too used to seeing how I looked
OH!! That happend to me at work today. A co-worker who, admittedly, has
watched me abuse my health twice before with unsafe "diet" practices, is
"concerned" because I look "too thin". Hel-LOOOOO!!! I weigh ONE HUNDRED
AND EIGHTY POINDS and am five foot two. BUT--I am MUCH more "narrow" than I
ws five months ago, and unfortunatly, since I am also now over fifty years
old, a goodly part of The Journey is showing on my face, especially my
friggin' neck.
I feel WONDERFUL, and am doing it safely, I assured her. But how very
unfair that I have to decide "Hmmmm....'tis better to have two chins, or a
chicken neck???"
XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
(223/180/120)
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Jason: You want to stretch waaaay up, then bend at the waist
and touch your toes.
gizzie: a) I don't have a waist and b) I'm not even sure I have
**toes**, I have not seen them for five years...
Personal Training, lesson one
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03-04-2007, 06:45 AM
| | | Re: What's the best advice you'd give to someone trying to lose weight for the first time? On Feb 26, 11:22 pm, "Caleb" <cal...@teleport.com> wrote:
> and they, themselves, are quite pudgy. And they ask you, "What's your
> method? What are you doing?"
>
> What are the top five things or so that you would recommend to them?
1. Keep a daily food diary with a daily calorie total
2. Get a consistent scale and weigh themselves every day.
3. Exercise
4. Eat only when hungry.
5. Eat slow and try to notice how their gut feels while they eat
6. Drink at least 2 quarts of water a day and try to drink only water.
7. Learn to enjoy vegetables
8. Read these links
Why scales lie: http://www.primusweb.com/fitnesspart...ight/scale.htm
How to make scales tell the truth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker%27s_diet
Free online tools if you don't have microsfot excel: http://physicsdiet.com/
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