Yoga, OR Body building??

I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...

But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.

I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
practitioners at their old age.. ...

Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...

Any suggestions???

LD
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<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> Any suggestions???
>
> LD
> http://forums.familylobby.com
> (Your True Family Discussions)
>
Are you considering body building or weight training?

There are many benefits from weight training and yoga. I wouldn't forgo
weight training based on what Arnold looks like today.....I believe he was a
body builder.

On Jun 24, 2:52 am, seo_gan...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>

Mary responds: These two choices are kinda at extreme ends of the
scale, aren't they? I would say, try them both, and see which one
"feels" right to you, and fits best with your lifestyle and physical
goals.

For most people, the yoga would be the most sustainable, since it
doesn't require going to a gym or specialized equipment. You can
almost always find yoga classes - never mind all you need is a
carpeted floor at home. Yoga is also very different than body building
in that it's not about "fitness" per say - its about the health of
mind and body together - it has a big mental/emotional component.

How about Pilates? From what I understand, it takes components of the
mental processes of yoga and various martial arts, and combines that
with more rigorous physical activity.

M.

seo_ganesh@yahoo.com wrote:
> I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...

I see the bodybuilding lifestyle as more complete
compared to yoga. Nothing is more effective at
producing positive physical change. True bodybuilding
is a system of four parts: resistance work, aerobic
work, flexibility work, and specialized nutrition.
Practical visualization and spiritual components are
often part of it as well. Anything that will help,
within the boundaries of ones morality, can be included.

> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...

What's wrong with the way Arnold looks at 60?

In any case, a Mr. Olympia winner is not suggestive
of a drug-free, genetically typical bodybuilding
enthusiast. Here's a link to a more realistic
example: http://tinyurl.com/2ksnt4
The man is 66 and in fine condition. I like the
John Hansen quote: "Murrell Hall is what bodybuilding
is all about." If you were 25% as serious about it
you'd do just fine.

> Any suggestions???

Do both. Yoga covers the flexibility and spirituality
components of a complete program that also includes
resistance work, aerobic/cardiovascular work, and
nutrition.

> LD
> http://forums.familylobby.com
> (Your True Family Discussions)
>

<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.

That's a really good question. Why not take a nice long walk and think about
it?

"Bill Eitner" <kd6tas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> seo_ganesh@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> I see the bodybuilding lifestyle as more complete
> compared to yoga. Nothing is more effective at
> producing positive physical change. True bodybuilding
> is a system of four parts: resistance work, aerobic
> work, flexibility work, and specialized nutrition.
> Practical visualization and spiritual components are
> often part of it as well. Anything that will help,
> within the boundaries of ones morality, can be included.
>
>> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>>
>> I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
>> practitioners at their old age.. ...
>>
>> Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> What's wrong with the way Arnold looks at 60?
>
> In any case, a Mr. Olympia winner is not suggestive
> of a drug-free, genetically typical bodybuilding
> enthusiast. Here's a link to a more realistic
> example: http://tinyurl.com/2ksnt4
> The man is 66 and in fine condition. I like the
> John Hansen quote: "Murrell Hall is what bodybuilding
> is all about." If you were 25% as serious about it
> you'd do just fine.
>
>> Any suggestions???
>
> Do both. Yoga covers the flexibility and spirituality
> components of a complete program that also includes
> resistance work, aerobic/cardiovascular work, and
> nutrition.
>
>> LD

Murrell Hall basically devotes his life to conditioning and
bodybuilding. Even 25% of that would be difficult for many people to fit
in their life.
>>

"Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Murrell Hall basically devotes his life to conditioning and bodybuilding.
> Even 25% of that would be difficult for many people to fit in their life.

Which raises an interesting point, as I look at what I'm going through as a
huge lifestyle change. Exercising every day is not such a difficult habit to
build. The calorie counting, though, is becoming really tedious. I'm more of
a muncher then a meal eater, and I have to hit my food logs about 12 to 15
times a day. I've got it down to a minimum number of keystrokes or whatever,
but still, its getting a little old.

<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> Any suggestions???

Besides killfiling you? No. I'm pretty sure at this point you are a troll.

Del Cecchi wrote:
> "Bill Eitner" <kd6tas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LYxfi.8028$c06.1466@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> seo_ganesh@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>> I see the bodybuilding lifestyle as more complete
>> compared to yoga. Nothing is more effective at
>> producing positive physical change. True bodybuilding
>> is a system of four parts: resistance work, aerobic
>> work, flexibility work, and specialized nutrition.
>> Practical visualization and spiritual components are
>> often part of it as well. Anything that will help,
>> within the boundaries of ones morality, can be included.
>>
>>> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>>>
>>> I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
>>> practitioners at their old age.. ...
>>>
>>> Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>> What's wrong with the way Arnold looks at 60?
>>
>> In any case, a Mr. Olympia winner is not suggestive
>> of a drug-free, genetically typical bodybuilding
>> enthusiast. Here's a link to a more realistic
>> example: http://tinyurl.com/2ksnt4
>> The man is 66 and in fine condition. I like the
>> John Hansen quote: "Murrell Hall is what bodybuilding
>> is all about." If you were 25% as serious about it
>> you'd do just fine.
>>
>>> Any suggestions???
>> Do both. Yoga covers the flexibility and spirituality
>> components of a complete program that also includes
>> resistance work, aerobic/cardiovascular work, and
>> nutrition.
>>
>>> LD
>
> Murrell Hall basically devotes his life to conditioning and
> bodybuilding. Even 25% of that would be difficult for many people to fit
> in their life.

He does a 4-day split resistance training routine
where each bodypart is only hit once or twice a week,
aerobics twice a week on off days, drinks enough water
and eats right. That's a typical natural (drug-free)
program. The 4-day split is a bit much for a beginner,
but it's appropriate for an advanced trainee. I'm 43,
resistance train twice a week (full body--means each
bodypart is hit twice a week), do aerobic work at least
twice a week, drink enough water and eat right. What
I do isn't much different than what he does--and it's
not excessive by any means. People eat, drink, sleep
and exercise one way or another. Bodybuilding is just
the most effective structuring of those activities.
The hardest part is the initial application of said
structure. It should be seen as an exchange of one
set of habits for another rather than an additional
burden.

On Jun 24, 7:26 pm, "Beverly" <bow...@home.woh.rr.com> wrote:
> Are you considering body building or weight training?
>
> There are many benefits from weight training and yoga. I wouldn't forgo
> weight training based on what Arnold looks like today.....I believe he was a
> body builder.


People doing Yoga....

http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Y...s%20Rigter.jpg

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/images/yogi_hindu.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...p_sadhu416.jpg

People doing Body Building....

http://www.waynebesen.com/uploaded_i...old-756771.jpg

I want to start with something that has a long term effect. People who
stay healthy at a longer run.

<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 24, 7:26 pm, "Beverly" <bow...@home.woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> Are you considering body building or weight training?
>>
>> There are many benefits from weight training and yoga. I wouldn't forgo
>> weight training based on what Arnold looks like today.....I believe he
>> was a
>> body builder.
>
>
> People doing Yoga....
>
> http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Y...s%20Rigter.jpg
>
> http://www.hinduwisdom.info/images/yogi_hindu.jpg
>
> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...p_sadhu416.jpg
>
> People doing Body Building....
>
> http://www.waynebesen.com/uploaded_i...old-756771.jpg
>
> I want to start with something that has a long term effect. People who
> stay healthy at a longer run.
>
>
You're confusing body building and regular weight training

On Jun 26, 8:59 am, "Beverly" <bow...@home.woh.rr.com> wrote:
> You're confusing body building and regular weight training

I want to have happiness and a healthy body for a long run.. Not a
short term happiness and a long time problem

On Jun 24, 10:36 pm, Bill Eitner <kd6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> seo_gan...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> I see the bodybuilding lifestyle as more complete
> compared to yoga. Nothing is more effective at
> producing positive physical change. True bodybuilding
> is a system of four parts: resistance work, aerobic
> work, flexibility work, and specialized nutrition.
> Practical visualization and spiritual components are
> often part of it as well. Anything that will help,
> within the boundaries of ones morality, can be included.
>
> > But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> > I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> > practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> > Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> What's wrong with the way Arnold looks at 60?
>
> In any case, a Mr. Olympia winner is not suggestive
> of a drug-free, genetically typical bodybuilding
> enthusiast. Here's a link to a more realistic
> example:http://tinyurl.com/2ksnt4
> The man is 66 and in fine condition. I like the
> John Hansen quote: "Murrell Hall is what bodybuilding
> is all about." If you were 25% as serious about it
> you'd do just fine.

This is a good example for sure.. I think I will need to read more
about body building and its long term effects..

If this guy can be fit after 66 any one can...

LD
http://forums.familylobby.com
(Your True Family Discussions)

On Jun 26, 1:22 am, seo_gan...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jun 26, 8:59 am, "Beverly" <bow...@home.woh.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > You're confusing body building and regular weight training
>
> I want to have happiness and a healthy body for a long run.. Not a
> short term happiness and a long time problem

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/w.../aa051601a.htm

If you honestly think that weight training will result in you looking
like Arnold you need to distinguish the difference between body
building and regular weight training recommended by most health care
providers. Women especially need to include some form of weight
resistance training to prevent osteoporosis, lose body fat, etc.

Yoga and Pilates are great exercises and I've done both of them. I
get most of my exercise from cycling but include weight training, yoga
and walking, too. Cross-training has a lot of benefits.

Don't overlook resistance training because you have the fear of
looking like Arnold. He was a "body builder" He trained for hours
each day and like many others he may have taken substances to enhance
his training. This is not "weight training".

On Jun 24, 7:36 pm, "determined" <determi...@comcast.nest> wrote:
> <seo_gan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182667966.815876.232760@m37g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> > But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> > I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> > practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> > Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> > Any suggestions???
>
> Besides killfiling you? No. I'm pretty sure at this point you are a troll.

I'm beginning to think the same, det

Someone who thinks doing a little weight training will result in
looking like Arnold needs to do a liitle research on the subject.

"Beverly" <Beverly.Owens@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 24, 7:36 pm, "determined" <determi...@comcast.nest> wrote:
>> <seo_gan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182667966.815876.232760@m37g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> >I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>>
>> > But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>>
>> > I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
>> > practitioners at their old age.. ...
>>
>> > Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>>
>> > Any suggestions???
>>
>> Besides killfiling you? No. I'm pretty sure at this point you are a
>> troll.
>
> I'm beginning to think the same, det
>
> Someone who thinks doing a little weight training will result in
> looking ike Arnold needs to do a liitle research on the subject.
>

Remember, this person is from another country, another culture and another
educational system. English is not his first language either.

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<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> Any suggestions???
>
> LD
> http://forums.familylobby.com
> (Your True Family Discussions)
>

You won't look like Arnold from body building.

You could certainly benefit from a combination of weight training and cardio
training. (example, running for cardio, lifting weights for weight
training. Run for 1/2 an hour then spend 1/2 an hour working out with
resistance or weights, this will build up endurance, stamina, has beneficial
health benefits and will also burn calories so you can lose weight. Do this
4 to 5 times a week and you'll see a big difference.)

Bottom line is, you need to find an exercise routine that you enjoy. If
you don't enjoy it you won't do it.

On Jun 24, 11:22 pm, "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
> <seo_gan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182667966.815876.232760@m37g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> > But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> That's a really good question. Why not take a nice long walk and think about
> it?

Well I don't think walking alone and thinking alone will solve the
problem. It is good that I discuss problems with people who already
have experienced the problems and have justified answers. I think
USENET is a good place.

I do find my answers here...

LD

<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>> That's a really good question. Why not take a nice long walk and think
>> about
>> it?
>
> Well I don't think walking alone and thinking alone will solve the
> problem.

It might! It depends how far you walk and how often. You can burn hundreds
of calories a day if you walk a lot. That, alone, may solve your problem.

Here is a link for you:
http://walking.about.com/cs/howtolos...howcalburn.htm

And, from what I've heard, the long term effects of walking are pretty damn
good.

seo_gan...@yahoo.com wrote:
> "em" <i...@dun.no> wrote:
> > <seo_gan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
> > > But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> > That's a really good question. Why not take a nice long walk and think about
> > it?
>
> Well I don't think walking alone and thinking alone will solve the
> problem.

"Walking alone" meaning one. Hike without other people
around. Difficult to achieve in a densely populated city in
a literal sense; easy to achieve if you only count the people
around you who are walking together with you for the same
purpose at the same time.

"Walking alone" meaning two. Hike as your only form of
tracked exercise program. Easy to achieve in a densely
populated city, or anywhere else.

On Jun 25, 4:36 am, "determined" <determi...@comcast.nest> wrote:
> <seo_gan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182667966.815876.232760@m37g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...
>
> > But, I needed to know the long term effects of the same.
>
> > I've seen Arnold recently.. and I've seen few regular yoga
> > practitioners at their old age.. ...
>
> > Looks to be doing Yoga is a better option...
>
> > Any suggestions???
>
> Besides killfiling you? No. I'm pretty sure at this point you are a troll.

:-) ...

<seo_ganesh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I thought of considering doing either YOGA or Body building...

You say you have no space for exercise equipment. You've also mentioned
something about jumping in place. I suggest calisthenics. Search for
calisthenics as a keyword on youtube.com. Also, check out this link:
http://www.expertvillage.com/videos/...excercises.htm