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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
AWilliamson
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The results of a significant body of clinical evidence report Black
cohosh as an effective remedy for the common symptoms of menopause.

A study conducted by Dr. Johannes Freudenstein and colleagues,
published in the April 2002 issue of Breast Cancer Research and
Treatment, concluded that Black cohosh supplementation can safely
reduce short term menopausal symptoms. In the November
issue of Annals of Internal Medicine, in a review of 29 separate
randomized, controlled clinical trials conducted between 1966 and
2002, the authors conclude that Black cohosh may be effective for
menopausal symptoms.

Amy

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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AWilliamson wrote:
> The results of a significant body of clinical evidence report Black
> cohosh as an effective remedy for the common symptoms of menopause.


Gosh, I guess you didn't read about the research that was just
published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, which found that
black cohosh was just about as ineffective as a placebo in
reducing hot flashes and other menopausal symptoms.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121900604.html

Admittedly, the research regarding black cohosh is contradictory,
with some studies finding it mildly helpful and others finding no
evidence of helping anyone except those who sell it to fatten
their bank accounts.

And speaking of which - this is a commercial post. The link you
supplied is to a site that sells - guess what??? Black cohosh!
As stated in our FAQ, alt.support.menopause actively discourages
commercial posts. You have been reported to your ISP.

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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AWilliamson <see_address_in_reply@invalid.com> wrote in
news:gh36p2lb4gfa4ll42mgnl14th81ca2v72r@4ax.com:

> The results of a significant body of clinical evidence report Black
> cohosh as an effective remedy for the common symptoms of menopause.
>
> A study conducted by Dr. Johannes Freudenstein and colleagues,
> published in the April 2002 issue of Breast Cancer Research and
> Treatment, concluded that Black cohosh supplementation can safely
> reduce short term menopausal symptoms. In the November
> issue of Annals of Internal Medicine, in a review of 29 separate
> randomized, controlled clinical trials conducted between 1966 and
> 2002, the authors conclude that Black cohosh may be effective for
> menopausal symptoms.


If you go to PubMed and enter "black cohosh menopause" (without the
quotation marks) you will get links to about a hundred studies. AFAICT,
half say black cohosh is no better than a placebo, the other half say it
may have some benefit.

I think it's very personal - some women are helped, others no effect,
still others find that black cohosh makes their flashes worse. I did
know one woman who found that the black cohosh helped a lot in the
beginning but later made things worse.

But all the studies I found said that black cohosh is safe, so I don't
see why anybody shouldn't give it a try.

Chak

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in
news:RLOdnUsLldu5iA7YnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com:

> And speaking of which - this is a commercial post. The link you
> supplied is to a site that sells - guess what??? Black cohosh!
>


Oh, damn, I didn't notice that. Shucks.

Chak

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:41:44 GMT, Chakolate
<chakolateDeathToSpammers@gmail.com> wrote:

>AWilliamson <see_address_in_reply@invalid.com> wrote in
>news:gh36p2lb4gfa4ll42mgnl14th81ca2v72r@4ax.com :
>
>> The results of a significant body of clinical evidence report Black
>> cohosh as an effective remedy for the common symptoms of menopause.
>>
>> A study conducted by Dr. Johannes Freudenstein and colleagues,
>> published in the April 2002 issue of Breast Cancer Research and
>> Treatment, concluded that Black cohosh supplementation can safely
>> reduce short term menopausal symptoms. In the November
>> issue of Annals of Internal Medicine, in a review of 29 separate
>> randomized, controlled clinical trials conducted between 1966 and
>> 2002, the authors conclude that Black cohosh may be effective for
>> menopausal symptoms.

>
>If you go to PubMed and enter "black cohosh menopause" (without the
>quotation marks) you will get links to about a hundred studies. AFAICT,
>half say black cohosh is no better than a placebo, the other half say it
>may have some benefit.
>
>I think it's very personal - some women are helped, others no effect,
>still others find that black cohosh makes their flashes worse. I did
>know one woman who found that the black cohosh helped a lot in the
>beginning but later made things worse.
>
>But all the studies I found said that black cohosh is safe, so I don't
>see why anybody shouldn't give it a try.
>
>Chak


There is a response letter to the latest study in the Annals of
Internal Med, that mentions headache as a well known side effect of
black cohosh in studies in China. The link is at the bottom of the
page below the abstract. I don't have the url handy. The study astract
is in the Dec 19 issue of the journal online.

Kathryn


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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:41:44 GMT, Chakolate
<chakolateDeathToSpammers@gmail.com> wrote:

>you will get links to about a hundred studies. AFAICT,
>half say black cohosh is no better than a placebo, the other half say it
>may have some benefit.


You also need to keep in mind studies have been done, testing for
instance, St John's Wort. Several resuts have shown that the amount
of active ingredient found in the product was less than the label
stated or not at all.

Any herb, vitamin or mineral is only as good as the company that makes
it.

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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In article <Xns98A6E706E578chakolatehotmailcom@207.115.17.102 >,
Chakolate <chakolateDeathToSpammers@gmail.com> wrote:

> FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:RLOdnUsLldu5iA7YnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
> > And speaking of which - this is a commercial post. The link you
> > supplied is to a site that sells - guess what??? Black cohosh!
> >

>
> Oh, damn, I didn't notice that. Shucks.


I suspected something when I saw "shaklee.net".

Having said that I must confess that Shaklee's power concentrated
laundry liquid is the only laundry detergent I've found that doesn't
give me hives. That's my sole connection to them. Well, and the fact
that I buy the stuff from a coworker who sells Shaklee.

Priscilla, not itching
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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AWilliamson <see_address_in_reply@invalid.com> wrote in
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> Any herb, vitamin or mineral is only as good as the company that makes
> it.
>


Like yours? Thanks so much for coming back, now I can report you again.

Maybe if I shout it at you: WE DO NOT PERMIT COMMERCIAL MESSAGES. WE
AGGRESSIVELY REPORT ANY SUCH POSTS. GO AWAY, AND DON'T COME BACK.

h


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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:59:25 -0800, AWilliamson
<see_address_in_reply@invalid.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:41:44 GMT, Chakolate
><chakolateDeathToSpammers@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>you will get links to about a hundred studies. AFAICT,
>>half say black cohosh is no better than a placebo, the other half say it
>>may have some benefit.

>
>You also need to keep in mind studies have been done, testing for
>instance, St John's Wort. Several resuts have shown that the amount
>of active ingredient found in the product was less than the label
>stated or not at all.
>
>Any herb, vitamin or mineral is only as good as the company that makes
>it.
>

Show me a company that makes a mineral or a herb.

R

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:26 AM
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:00:31 -0500, Priscilla Ballou
<vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:

>Having said that I must confess that Shaklee's power concentrated
>laundry liquid is the only laundry detergent I've found that doesn't
>give me hives.


Very true! It is good detergent.
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Priscilla Ballou <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in news:vze23t8n-
182098.12003128122006@individual.net:

> I suspected something when I saw "shaklee.net".
>


That was below the window I had open; but now he/she is giving me lots of
opportunities to report.

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