Bye-bye to the 5s

On Jan 3, 4:03 pm, Dana© <AneeB...@ownmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:18:28 +0100, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no
>
> (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
> > It was fascinating to see such a mature face on someone
> >so young. I wondered what she would look like when she got old(er): If
> >her face would always be a generation older than her, or if she'd "catch
> >up".
>
> I know the girl you are talking about didn't have make up on, but
> remember how Brooks Shield looked like a 20 year old when she was made
> up for a photo shoot? She was probably 4 or 5 at the time. That always
> made me wonder about how old models on magazine covers really were.
>
> It also makes me sad to think that our young girls are looking at
> these magazine models and thinking they should look like that too.
> They have no idea.
>
> Dana
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

it does seem that many girls are entering the make-up realm & all it
entails at earlier ages (or in different ways then the princess
pretend stuff). though many years ago i recall having had a 5 year
old ask me if her particular outfit made her look fat (wrote if off as
an aberration - she also wasn't fat). there also seems to be an
earlier maturation process going on for whatever reasons.

then, if i go & look at my mom's high school graduation yearbook, i
marvel at how old those high school seniors looked.

ellen

"ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ff741e86-664c-414d-a7f3-566f77f59218@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
<snipped>
> i have found that, in general, pretty much all of the immigrant women
> in my neighborhood from anywhere in the world (& no matter the age)
> will hit me with an honest assessment of how i appear to them on any
> given day (which may also mean i'm not consistently looking like
> hell). this is generally ok, though sometimes i wouldn't mind one of
> those youngsters of a wee age who always favorably guess my age in the
> dramatically wrong direction.

One of the kids in my class, after asking how old I am & being told 57,
replied, "You *are*?!? Jeez, I thought you were in your 30's!" Works for
me... ;-) (But keep in mind, this was from an 8 yr. old's POV. <g>)

Cathy


>
> ellen
>
>

On Jan 3, 9:26*am, Jette <bossl...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
> Dana© wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:08:22 +0100, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no
> > (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> >> I'm sure illness and other pressures in life factor in. Many things can
> >> make a person suddenly feel - and look - old. However, in the people I
> >> saw this sudden "oh, I'm getting older, better start looking it" change,
> >> there hadn't been any physical illness.
>
> > I have heard that diabetes causes you to look older and I fear it may
> > be true. *I am always mistaken for older than I am, but I have to say
> > that it has been true all my life, even before diabetes. Strangers
> > used to think my mother and I were sisters, and I always thought it
> > was because she looked so young. Now I wonder if it was because I
> > looked older. I try to blame it on my gray hair but I can't really put
> > it on any one thing.
>
> Uh, my Dad's had diabetes for 30 years - still looks about 20 years
> younger than his real age.

Ditto my mom--diabetes for 30 years, looks younger, and has remarkably
unwrinkled skin.
Les>
> --
> Jette Goldie
> je...@blueyonder.co.ukhttp://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
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FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:

> Today is it. The big 60.

[snip]

> I need to figure out what else I want to do with the rest of my
> life, and this picture is unclear. Some goals, even small ones,
> would help lift this feeling of drifting aimlessly. So I guess
> one of my first goals is to develop some goals.

I was faced with that problem when I retired suddenly and
unexpectedly, due to the coincidence of a bout of bad health and an
early retirement offer. It takes time for goals to develop. If you're
like me it's not something you can do, but it's a natural process you
can encourage. You just have to explore. That means taking time to
stroll round your environment, with time to stop and look at anything
that interests you. Drop in now and then on bookshops, libraries,
galleries, and friends. Visit local beauty spots. Follow your nose.

Soon you find that certain things have caught your interest and you
start following them up. Most of them will peter out, but a few of
them will continue to develop. After a year or few you'll find one day
that there's so many interesting things you want to do that you're
just going to have set priorities and concentrate on the most
important ones.

You will have acquired goals :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:5u5ivgF1g21t9U1@mid.individual.net...
> FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:
>
>> Today is it. The big 60.
>
> [snip]
>
>> I need to figure out what else I want to do with the rest of my
>> life, and this picture is unclear. Some goals, even small ones,
>> would help lift this feeling of drifting aimlessly. So I guess
>> one of my first goals is to develop some goals.
>
> I was faced with that problem when I retired suddenly and
> unexpectedly, due to the coincidence of a bout of bad health and an
> early retirement offer. It takes time for goals to develop. If you're
> like me it's not something you can do, but it's a natural process you
> can encourage. You just have to explore. That means taking time to
> stroll round your environment, with time to stop and look at anything
> that interests you. Drop in now and then on bookshops, libraries,
> galleries, and friends. Visit local beauty spots. Follow your nose.
>
> Soon you find that certain things have caught your interest and you
> start following them up. Most of them will peter out, but a few of
> them will continue to develop. After a year or few you'll find one day
> that there's so many interesting things you want to do that you're
> just going to have set priorities and concentrate on the most
> important ones.
>
> You will have acquired goals :-)

I think this is advice I'll need to follow after I retire...

Cathy

>
> --
> Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
> IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
> [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
>

Chris Malcolm wrote:

> I was faced with that problem when I retired suddenly and
> unexpectedly, due to the coincidence of a bout of bad health and an
> early retirement offer. It takes time for goals to develop. If you're
> like me it's not something you can do, but it's a natural process you
> can encourage. You just have to explore. That means taking time to
> stroll round your environment, with time to stop and look at anything
> that interests you. Drop in now and then on bookshops, libraries,
> galleries, and friends. Visit local beauty spots. Follow your nose.

Sounds good. I've never been much for looking out into the
distant future and deciding on long-range life-time goals, but
not too bad at stumbling over the interesting things. It
certainly explains my zig-zag career!

> Soon you find that certain things have caught your interest and you
> start following them up. Most of them will peter out, but a few of
> them will continue to develop. After a year or few you'll find one day
> that there's so many interesting things you want to do that you're
> just going to have set priorities and concentrate on the most
> important ones.
>
> You will have acquired goals :-)

:-) And what are your current goals?

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

sage hen wrote:
> On Jan 3, 9:26 am, Jette <bossl...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
>> Dana© wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:08:22 +0100, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no
>>> (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>>>> I'm sure illness and other pressures in life factor in. Many things can
>>>> make a person suddenly feel - and look - old. However, in the people I
>>>> saw this sudden "oh, I'm getting older, better start looking it" change,
>>>> there hadn't been any physical illness.
>>> I have heard that diabetes causes you to look older and I fear it may
>>> be true. I am always mistaken for older than I am, but I have to say
>>> that it has been true all my life, even before diabetes. Strangers
>>> used to think my mother and I were sisters, and I always thought it
>>> was because she looked so young. Now I wonder if it was because I
>>> looked older. I try to blame it on my gray hair but I can't really put
>>> it on any one thing.
>> Uh, my Dad's had diabetes for 30 years - still looks about 20 years
>> younger than his real age.
>
> Ditto my mom--diabetes for 30 years, looks younger, and has remarkably
> unwrinkled skin.
> Les>

Yeah, and he's decidedly spry for his 75 years - just got himself a
new "girlfriend" (she's a widow in her late 60s) and they spent New
Year in the Highlands.


--
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

> FlyLady'sfine for us easily distracted types that just never learned a
> routine for anything, and got our piles that way. Some of the followers
> do have depression or other problems (like hoarding) that interfere with
> normal housekeeping and/or with normal shopping behavior.

I just discovered FlyLady about a month ago, and it has helped me so
much that I started a Google Group just for FlyBabies to support each
other. If you need some help keeping you on track with FlyLady, check
it out at http://groups.google.com/group/flybaby

Christine

Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes

> > Ah, yes, I knew there was another New Year's resolution around here I
>> was supposed to take note of. Back to following FlyLady, again (it
>> actually does me a lot of emotional good).

I just went to her web site, and to the Beginner BabySteps page
on shining your sink.
http://flylady.net/pages/FLYingLessons_Shine.asp
Now that is interesting.

Since we have new (2-year old) sinks in the bathrooms, I _did_
get in the habit of wiping them out and wiping off the faucets
whenever I use them, and even managed to train Hubster to do the
same, most of the time. It _does_ prevent the crud build-up,
then the depression over the crud build-up, then the I don't have
time to deal with this now problem, leading to more crud build-up.

But then there are the 45 year old scratched, chipped, pitted and
stained ceramic-over-cast iron sinks in the kitchen, complete
with a crud-catching rim strip. I _have_ scrubbed them,
dislodged the crud with a knife and toothbrush, and bleached
them. And they turn white (sort of - there are places where the
cast iron is starting to show through.) But empty _one_ cup of
coffee, and those pits just suck up the stain.

I never shined them with car wax - maybe that would delay the
accumulation of stain? Hmmm. Maybe I could persuade Hubster not
to pile the dirty dishes in a SHINY sink. Worth a try!

What tips of hers do you find particularly helpful?

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

On Jan 4, 2:26 pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:
> Susan wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
> > > Ah, yes, I knew there was another New Year's resolution around here I
> >> was supposed to take note of. Back to following FlyLady, again (it
> >> actually does me a lot of emotional good).
>
> I just went to her web site, and to the Beginner BabySteps page
> on shining your sink.http://flylady.net/pages/FLYingLessons_Shine.asp
> Now that is interesting.
>
> Since we have new (2-year old) sinks in the bathrooms, I _did_
> get in the habit of wiping them out and wiping off the faucets
> whenever I use them, and even managed to train Hubster to do the
> same, most of the time. It _does_ prevent the crud build-up,
> then the depression over the crud build-up, then the I don't have
> time to deal with this now problem, leading to more crud build-up.
>
> But then there are the 45 year old scratched, chipped, pitted and
> stained ceramic-over-cast iron sinks in the kitchen, complete
> with a crud-catching rim strip. I _have_ scrubbed them,
> dislodged the crud with a knife and toothbrush, and bleached
> them. And they turn white (sort of - there are places where the
> cast iron is starting to show through.) But empty _one_ cup of
> coffee, and those pits just suck up the stain.
>
> I never shined them with car wax - maybe that would delay the
> accumulation of stain? Hmmm. Maybe I could persuade Hubster not
> to pile the dirty dishes in a SHINY sink. Worth a try!
>
> What tips of hers do you find particularly helpful?
>
> FurPaw
>
> --
> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
> a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
> those who are cold and are not clothed."
> - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>
> To reply, unleash the dogs.

crap, you mean i am supposed to be shining sinks? i haven't even got
the window cleaning stuff down. didn't dare touch the closet/freezer
(discussion).

that description: crud build up - depression over crud build-up -
don't have time to deal with the now problem crud build-up = more crud
build-up. that sounds way too familiar in too many ways.

cruddy ellen

ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 3, 12:18 pm, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> wrote:
>
>
> > Oh, dear, where to start? :-) Short answer: I'm a Sagittarian and that
> > sign is described as the optimist of the zodiac.
>
> hhhmm. that would explain my brother in some ways. what do they say
> about virgos?

That they are the accountants of the zodiac. ;-) However, my dear
never-depressed grandma was a Virgo.

> > Longer answer: All of the above. I find Pollyanna utterly annoying and
> > Ebenezer Scrooge a kindred spirit. My grandma had an inborn positive
> > outlook in life (in spite of childhood abuses), and I do believe that
> > was a corrective for me while I was growing up (she raised me during
> > crucial years). I was a very serious (and somewhat traumatized) child,
> > and I'm still a worry-wart. I'm better at cheering on other people than
> > I am myself. And that is why I use faith and affirmations to control my
> > thinking. I know that taking a dark view of things (or myself) is not
> > helpful. I am also solution-oriented, which makes me respond more like a
> > man than a woman when a girlfriend is crying her eyes out on my
> > shoulder. :-)
>
> i would never have guessed that you harbored an inner scrooge or worry
> wart.

That Star Wars thing? Fighting the dark side of the force? Goes on in
inside my head allatime. :-)

> grandma sounds like she was a great influence. were you always
> solution-oriented or has that been a development or change?

I've been like that since childhood, though I can remember times when I
wasn't. It's a gift that I can ignore, I guess.

> > > i have found that, in general, pretty much all of the immigrant women
> > > in my neighborhood from anywhere in the world (& no matter the age)
> > > will hit me with an honest assessment of how i appear to them on any
> > > given day (which may also mean i'm not consistently looking like
> > > hell).
> >
> > That sort of accuracy rather fascinates me. I used to be very good at
> > guessing people's age, but as I've gotten older, I've lost the ability.
> > Everybody looks younger than their years to me now.
>
> i think what fascinates me more is their brutal honesty.

Brutal? How?

AFAIK, other women have never had to abide by the rule of not asking (or
telling) a woman her age.

> i never could guess people's ages, which meant the death of any carny
> aspirations.

Ah, but if you can guess how much money they have, you still have a
vocation option. ;-)

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

Dana© <AneeBear@ownmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:18:28 +0100, thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no
> (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> > It was fascinating to see such a mature face on someone
> >so young. I wondered what she would look like when she got old(er): If
> >her face would always be a generation older than her, or if she'd "catch
> >up".
>
> I know the girl you are talking about didn't have make up on, but
> remember how Brooks Shield looked like a 20 year old when she was made
> up for a photo shoot? She was probably 4 or 5 at the time.

Sure she wasn't 12? IIRC, that's when she got into modelling.

> That always made me wonder about how old models on magazine covers really
> were.

Extremely few are under 15 or over 25.

> It also makes me sad to think that our young girls are looking at
> these magazine models and thinking they should look like that too.
> They have no idea.

No, they don't, and considering that everything is also "fixed" in
Photoshop, magazine covers today are blatant lies. It wasn't easy when
we were growing up, either, and photos were airbrushed back then, but we
didn't have the plethora of surgically altered models and actresses that
there is today. We saw natural-sized breasts and noses and even a bit
more weight on those bones.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> Why do all facial moisturizers need to be tossed?

They have a limited shelf life, much like drugs or food. Two years for
an uopened jar may be too short. But, if they have been opened and used
by dipping fingers into, they go bad quicker; bacteria gets in. So those
should be tossed sooner.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

Cathy F. <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ff741e86-664c-414d-a7f3-566f77f59218@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> <snipped>
> > i have found that, in general, pretty much all of the immigrant women
> > in my neighborhood from anywhere in the world (& no matter the age)
> > will hit me with an honest assessment of how i appear to them on any
> > given day (which may also mean i'm not consistently looking like
> > hell). this is generally ok, though sometimes i wouldn't mind one of
> > those youngsters of a wee age who always favorably guess my age in the
> > dramatically wrong direction.
>
> One of the kids in my class, after asking how old I am & being told 57,
> replied, "You *are*?!? Jeez, I thought you were in your 30's!" Works for
> me... ;-) (But keep in mind, this was from an 8 yr. old's POV. <g>)

Considering that kids tend to think everybody over 30 is ANCIENT, I'd
say that one's a bonafide compliment!

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

mmmboct@gmail.com <mmmboct@gmail.com> wrote:

> > FlyLady'sfine for us easily distracted types that just never learned a
> > routine for anything, and got our piles that way. Some of the followers
> > do have depression or other problems (like hoarding) that interfere with
> > normal housekeeping and/or with normal shopping behavior.
>
> I just discovered FlyLady about a month ago, and it has helped me so
> much that I started a Google Group just for FlyBabies to support each
> other. If you need some help keeping you on track with FlyLady, check
> it out at http://groups.google.com/group/flybaby

Oh, I need help, all right, and perhaps your group is just the ticket.
I've subscribed to alt.recover.clutter on and off but found it didn't
motivate me beyond FlyLady's e-mails.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:

> Susan wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > > Ah, yes, I knew there was another New Year's resolution around here I
> >> was supposed to take note of. Back to following FlyLady, again (it
> >> actually does me a lot of emotional good).
>
> I just went to her web site, and to the Beginner BabySteps page
> on shining your sink.
> http://flylady.net/pages/FLYingLessons_Shine.asp
> Now that is interesting.

I could so relate to what she was telling there, and that's what finally
sank in and got me moving. I learned a lot about doing dishes,
practicing shining my sink for a month:

* It truly is the rewarding job my paternal grandmother claimed it was:
You see results right away.

* It doesn't take me as long to wash a sinkload as I thought. My record
is 5 minutes.

* It's a wonderfully easy job that almost does itself: I put the dishes
to soak, and wander off and do something else for 10 minuts, wander back
and practically just have to wipe the dishes off to get them clean. Or:
I go to the kitchen every time there's a commercial, and during one
show, the job's done.

* It wakes me up to put the clean, dry dishes away next morning. It's
also a gentle and pleasant way to start the day, partly because it
reminds me of what a good girl I was the night before. :-)

* The moment the dirty dishes are corralled into one sudsy sink, the
kitchen instantly looks better, which is very encouraging. Also: I'm
invariably surprised that the explosion all over the kitchen does fit
into one sink.

* The "creep" is wonderful: The cleaned off spots do keep growing as
that sink stays shiny.

* I now like doing dishes.

> What tips of hers do you find particularly helpful?

The kitchen sink one and the 15-minute timer one. I had an epiphany when
one day I realized that the coffee table in my living room is that
room's "kitchen sink". The moment I clear that off, the whole room looks
better.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

x-no-archive: yes

Keera Ann Fox wrote:
> Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Why do all facial moisturizers need to be tossed?
>
>
> They have a limited shelf life, much like drugs or food. Two years for
> an uopened jar may be too short. But, if they have been opened and used
> by dipping fingers into, they go bad quicker; bacteria gets in. So those
> should be tossed sooner.
>

I see.

Mine are in pump dispensers, so no fingers in the containers, and the
extras are all sealed up.

Susan

On Jan 4, 3:27 pm, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
wrote:
> ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 12:18 pm, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> > wrote:

> That they are the accountants of the zodiac. ;-) However, my dear
> never-depressed grandma was a Virgo.

the accountants of the zodiac? yikes, that kind of bums me out & makes
me feel inadequate at the same time. though happy to share the sign
with your grandma.

> > i would never have guessed that you harbored an inner scrooge or worry
> > wart.
>
> That Star Wars thing? Fighting the dark side of the force? Goes on in
> inside my head allatime. :-)
>
> > grandma sounds like she was a great influence. were you always
> > solution-oriented or has that been a development or change?
>
> I've been like that since childhood, though I can remember times when I
> wasn't. It's a gift that I can ignore, I guess.

why ignore it? all good stuff..


> > i think what fascinates me more is their brutal honesty.
>
> Brutal? How?

their honest assessments are generally about more than age.



> > i never could guess people's ages, which meant the death of any carny
> > aspirations.
>
> Ah, but if you can guess how much money they have, you still have a
> vocation option. ;-)

ROFL
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.http://home.online.no/~kafox/

On Jan 4, 3:02 pm, ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2:26 pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Susan wrote:
> > > x-no-archive: yes
> > > > Ah, yes, I knew there was another New Year's resolution around here I
> > >> was supposed to take note of. Back to following FlyLady, again (it
> > >> actually does me a lot of emotional good).
>
> > I just went to her web site, and to the Beginner BabySteps page
> > on shining your sink.http://flylady.net/pages/FLYingLessons_Shine.asp
> > Now that is interesting.
>
> > Since we have new (2-year old) sinks in the bathrooms, I _did_
> > get in the habit of wiping them out and wiping off the faucets
> > whenever I use them, and even managed to train Hubster to do the
> > same, most of the time. It _does_ prevent the crud build-up,
> > then the depression over the crud build-up, then the I don't have
> > time to deal with this now problem, leading to more crud build-up.
>
> > But then there are the 45 year old scratched, chipped, pitted and
> > stained ceramic-over-cast iron sinks in the kitchen, complete
> > with a crud-catching rim strip. I _have_ scrubbed them,
> > dislodged the crud with a knife and toothbrush, and bleached
> > them. And they turn white (sort of - there are places where the
> > cast iron is starting to show through.) But empty _one_ cup of
> > coffee, and those pits just suck up the stain.
>
> > I never shined them with car wax - maybe that would delay the
> > accumulation of stain? Hmmm. Maybe I could persuade Hubster not
> > to pile the dirty dishes in a SHINY sink. Worth a try!
>
> > What tips of hers do you find particularly helpful?
>
> > FurPaw
>
> > --
> > "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> > every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
> > a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
> > those who are cold and are not clothed."
> > - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>
> > To reply, unleash the dogs.
>
> crap, you mean i am supposed to be shining sinks? i haven't even got
> the window cleaning stuff down. didn't dare touch the closet/freezer
> (discussion).
>
> that description: crud build up - depression over crud build-up -
> don't have time to deal with the now problem crud build-up = more crud
> build-up. that sounds way too familiar in too many ways.
>
> cruddy ellen

i am soooo glad that i don't have to accessorize my appliances:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhke...eature=related

ellen wrote:

> crap, you mean i am supposed to be shining sinks? i haven't even got
> the window cleaning stuff down. didn't dare touch the closet/freezer
> (discussion).

Well, FlyLady says you only have to do it ONCE. I could do it
ONCE. If it doesn't work, I could just chalk it up to experience
and never do it again!

> that description: crud build up - depression over crud build-up -
> don't have time to deal with the now problem crud build-up = more crud
> build-up. that sounds way too familiar in too many ways.

I have known this litany for my entire adult life. We could sing
the duet, perhaps?

FurPaw


--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

FurPaw wrote the following on 1/4/2008 2:26 PM:

> Since we have new (2-year old) sinks in the bathrooms, I _did_
> get in the habit of wiping them out and wiping off the faucets
> whenever I use them, and even managed to train Hubster to do the
> same, most of the time. It _does_ prevent the crud build-up,
> then the depression over the crud build-up, then the I don't have
> time to deal with this now problem, leading to more crud build-up.

I keep a microfiber cloth (*wonderful* things) hanging in the bathroom
and take 10 seconds every night to wipe out the sink and shine the
faucet. The only things permanently allowed on the sink edge are a soap
dispenser, water glass, and a WaterPik. Anything else goes into holders
suction-cupped to the wall. We have one small bathroom that is shared by
four of us, a lot of stuff tends to accumulate in there. Keeping the sink
free of clutter makes it a lot easier to clean.

That ten seconds of effort makes a big difference in the appearance of
the bathroom, and the more thorough weekly cleaning is much easier.

One big change we've made in the past year is to squeegee and wipe down
the shower (microfiber again) after every use. We used to have a huge
mildew problem, but this keeps it at bay without toxic chemicals. And the
tub area always looks nice now.

Not to make any claims about an immaculate house -- far from it. But the
bathroom is under control, and the kitchen usually is -- or at least
clean enough for food prep.

Karen R.

ellen wrote:

> i am soooo glad that i don't have to accessorize my appliances:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhke...eature=related

Oh, but Ellen, I _do_ accessorize my refrigerator! I just hadn't
thought of it in that way. It's decorated to match my mind!

Using refrigerator magnets - it's decorated with the check for
$12 from 2004 that I never got around to cashing or sending back
for a replacement. A coupon for BB&B for 20% off that expired in
2006. Insurance cards from Feb 2007 that never made it into the
car. The county curb refuse pick-up schedule for January 2007.
A note to Hubster to pick up Gordo's medicine at the vet (Gordo
died in 2006). Pictures of nephews and niece from Christmas 2005.

:-/

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

FurPaw wrote:
> ellen wrote:
>
>> i am soooo glad that i don't have to accessorize my appliances:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhke...eature=related
>
> Oh, but Ellen, I _do_ accessorize my refrigerator! I just hadn't
> thought of it in that way. It's decorated to match my mind!
>
> Using refrigerator magnets - it's decorated with the check for $12 from
> 2004 that I never got around to cashing or sending back for a
> replacement. A coupon for BB&B for 20% off that expired in 2006.
> Insurance cards from Feb 2007 that never made it into the car. The
> county curb refuse pick-up schedule for January 2007. A note to Hubster
> to pick up Gordo's medicine at the vet (Gordo died in 2006). Pictures
> of nephews and niece from Christmas 2005.
>
> :-/

I forgot to add, the reason that none of this decor dates back
before 2004 is that we bought the refrigerator in 2004.

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

On Jan 4, 4:39 pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote:
> > i am soooo glad that i don't have to accessorize my appliances:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhke...eature=related
>
> Oh, but Ellen, I _do_ accessorize my refrigerator! I just hadn't
> thought of it in that way. It's decorated to match my mind!
>
> Using refrigerator magnets - it's decorated with the check for
> $12 from 2004 that I never got around to cashing or sending back
> for a replacement. A coupon for BB&B for 20% off that expired in
> 2006. Insurance cards from Feb 2007 that never made it into the
> car. The county curb refuse pick-up schedule for January 2007.
> A note to Hubster to pick up Gordo's medicine at the vet (Gordo
> died in 2006). Pictures of nephews and niece from Christmas 2005.
>
> :-/
>
> FurPaw
>
> --
> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
> a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
> those who are cold and are not clothed."
> - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>
> To reply, unleash the dogs.

ROFL! omg, that is just wonderfully perfect! i am so in for that
duet. but let's toss the depressed part & say to hell with it - this
is what it is & there may be some crud but there's alot of good stuff
under it.

ellen

Cathy F. <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:5u5ivgF1g21t9U1@mid.individual.net...
> > FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Today is it. The big 60.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> I need to figure out what else I want to do with the rest of my
> >> life, and this picture is unclear. Some goals, even small ones,
> >> would help lift this feeling of drifting aimlessly. So I guess
> >> one of my first goals is to develop some goals.
> >
> > I was faced with that problem when I retired suddenly and
> > unexpectedly, due to the coincidence of a bout of bad health and an
> > early retirement offer. It takes time for goals to develop. If you're
> > like me it's not something you can do, but it's a natural process you
> > can encourage. You just have to explore. That means taking time to
> > stroll round your environment, with time to stop and look at anything
> > that interests you. Drop in now and then on bookshops, libraries,
> > galleries, and friends. Visit local beauty spots. Follow your nose.
> >
> > Soon you find that certain things have caught your interest and you
> > start following them up. Most of them will peter out, but a few of
> > them will continue to develop. After a year or few you'll find one day
> > that there's so many interesting things you want to do that you're
> > just going to have set priorities and concentrate on the most
> > important ones.
> >
> > You will have acquired goals :-)
>
> I think this is advice I'll need to follow after I retire...

Or even before. :-)

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:

> ellen wrote:
>
> > i am soooo glad that i don't have to accessorize my appliances:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhke...eature=related
>
> Oh, but Ellen, I _do_ accessorize my refrigerator! I just hadn't
> thought of it in that way. It's decorated to match my mind!
>
> Using refrigerator magnets - it's decorated with the check for
> $12 from 2004 that I never got around to cashing or sending back
> for a replacement. A coupon for BB&B for 20% off that expired in
> 2006. Insurance cards from Feb 2007 that never made it into the
> car. The county curb refuse pick-up schedule for January 2007.
> A note to Hubster to pick up Gordo's medicine at the vet (Gordo
> died in 2006). Pictures of nephews and niece from Christmas 2005.

LOL! I mean, it's funny when you put it that way - decorated to match
your mind. :-)

> :-/
>
> FurPaw


--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 4, 3:27 pm, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> wrote:
> > ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 3, 12:18 pm, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> > > wrote:
>
> > That they are the accountants of the zodiac. ;-) However, my dear
> > never-depressed grandma was a Virgo.
>
> the accountants of the zodiac?

Has to do with their ability to pay attention to detail (though I know
of some who are more like absent-minded professors). It's just a
generality and the main reason why, if anyone wants to use astrology,
they must go beyond sun signs.

> yikes, that kind of bums me out & makes me feel inadequate at the same
> time. though happy to share the sign with your grandma.

It's a fine sign. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. :-)

> > > i would never have guessed that you harbored an inner scrooge or worry
> > > wart.
> >
> > That Star Wars thing? Fighting the dark side of the force? Goes on in
> > inside my head allatime. :-)
> >
> > > grandma sounds like she was a great influence. were you always
> > > solution-oriented or has that been a development or change?
> >
> > I've been like that since childhood, though I can remember times when I
> > wasn't. It's a gift that I can ignore, I guess.
>
> why ignore it? all good stuff..

I'm human. I can very easily wander off and be stupid in spite of a high
IQ (and sometimes, just to make things interesting, because of it). :-)

> > > i think what fascinates me more is their brutal honesty.
> >
> > Brutal? How?
>
> their honest assessments are generally about more than age.

Then it's not really about your age. :-)

> > > i never could guess people's ages, which meant the death of any carny
> > > aspirations.
> >
> > Ah, but if you can guess how much money they have, you still have a
> > vocation option. ;-)
>
> ROFL


--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

"WWWSC #4" <krez56@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:13nt9firnt3ad86@corp.supernews.com...
> FurPaw wrote the following on 1/4/2008 2:26 PM:
>
>> Since we have new (2-year old) sinks in the bathrooms, I _did_ get in the
>> habit of wiping them out and wiping off the faucets whenever I use them,
>> and even managed to train Hubster to do the same, most of the time. It
>> _does_ prevent the crud build-up, then the depression over the crud
>> build-up, then the I don't have time to deal with this now problem,
>> leading to more crud build-up.
>
> I keep a microfiber cloth (*wonderful* things) hanging in the bathroom and
> take 10 seconds every night to wipe out the sink and shine the faucet. The
> only things permanently allowed on the sink edge are a soap dispenser,
> water glass, and a WaterPik. Anything else goes into holders
> suction-cupped to the wall. We have one small bathroom that is shared by
> four of us, a lot of stuff tends to accumulate in there. Keeping the sink
> free of clutter makes it a lot easier to clean.
>
> That ten seconds of effort makes a big difference in the appearance of the
> bathroom, and the more thorough weekly cleaning is much easier.
>
> One big change we've made in the past year is to squeegee and wipe down
> the shower (microfiber again) after every use. We used to have a huge
> mildew problem, but this keeps it at bay without toxic chemicals. And the
> tub area always looks nice now.
>
> Not to make any claims about an immaculate house -- far from it. But the
> bathroom is under control, and the kitchen usually is -- or at least clean
> enough for food prep.

I always wipe down the faucets - & the immediate surrounding porcelain - of
the bathroom & kitchen sinks at least once/day - sometimes after each use.
A quick, quick deal each time, but it works. And the chrome always looks
nice when it's all nice & shiny. Instant gratification. ;-) I usually do a
quick wipe of the bathroom floor each day - my hair, cats' hairs - they
accumulate like crazy... keeps that relatively clean.

I wish I could also get into the habit of wiping down the tub/shower every
day, but haven't managed that as of yet...

Cathy


>
> Karen R.

"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
news:1ia7svx.1nxd7gj1imycl2N%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
> Cathy F. <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5u5ivgF1g21t9U1@mid.individual.net...
>> > FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Today is it. The big 60.
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> >
>> >> I need to figure out what else I want to do with the rest of my
>> >> life, and this picture is unclear. Some goals, even small ones,
>> >> would help lift this feeling of drifting aimlessly. So I guess
>> >> one of my first goals is to develop some goals.
>> >
>> > I was faced with that problem when I retired suddenly and
>> > unexpectedly, due to the coincidence of a bout of bad health and an
>> > early retirement offer. It takes time for goals to develop. If you're
>> > like me it's not something you can do, but it's a natural process you
>> > can encourage. You just have to explore. That means taking time to
>> > stroll round your environment, with time to stop and look at anything
>> > that interests you. Drop in now and then on bookshops, libraries,
>> > galleries, and friends. Visit local beauty spots. Follow your nose.
>> >
>> > Soon you find that certain things have caught your interest and you
>> > start following them up. Most of them will peter out, but a few of
>> > them will continue to develop. After a year or few you'll find one day
>> > that there's so many interesting things you want to do that you're
>> > just going to have set priorities and concentrate on the most
>> > important ones.
>> >
>> > You will have acquired goals :-)
>>
>> I think this is advice I'll need to follow after I retire...
>
> Or even before. :-)

Except my mind's on overload already...

Cathy


>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> http://home.online.no/~kafox/

"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote in message
news:3N6dnSqMCaikNOPanZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> FurPaw wrote:
>> ellen wrote:
>>
>>> i am soooo glad that i don't have to accessorize my appliances:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhke...eature=related
>>
>> Oh, but Ellen, I _do_ accessorize my refrigerator! I just hadn't thought
>> of it in that way. It's decorated to match my mind!
>>
>> Using refrigerator magnets - it's decorated with the check for $12 from
>> 2004 that I never got around to cashing or sending back for a
>> replacement. A coupon for BB&B for 20% off that expired in 2006.
>> Insurance cards from Feb 2007 that never made it into the car. The
>> county curb refuse pick-up schedule for January 2007. A note to Hubster
>> to pick up Gordo's medicine at the vet (Gordo died in 2006). Pictures of
>> nephews and niece from Christmas 2005.
>>
>> :-/
>
> I forgot to add, the reason that none of this decor dates back before 2004
> is that we bought the refrigerator in 2004.

Then the previous refrigerator's decor ought to have been rather
interesting. ;-P

Cathy